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  • mp1mp1 Member Posts: 7
    I'm just about ready to order my 99 F150 5.4 l XLT 4x4 SC (3.55 limited slip). The only thing I'm not sure about is tires. Essentially, this truck's going to spend most of its time commuting. However, occasionally, I'll be towing a small (less than 3k pounds) boat and sometimes launching/retrieving from "primitive" ramps, and I'll be driving through the occasional MA snow, driving dirt/mud roads to go camping, and at some point (when the truck is older), driving on the beach to go surf fishing.

    My understanding, is that the following tires are available (with invoice prices from Kelley Blue Book):

    P255/70R16SL All Terrain OWL $340

    LT245/75R16D BSW $328

    LT245/75R16D All Terrain OWL $437

    My intuition tells me to order the most expensive (heavy duty) tires I can afford (which would be the LT245/75R16D). Are they going to be real noisy, or adversly effect handling? Would the P255/70R16SL be adequate for my applications?

    I've had pickups before, but never a 4x4...so I'm a little out of my element here. Anyone have any advice?

    BTW, what make are each of these tires?
  • stanfordstanford Member Posts: 606
    kdingh: Very few things actually void your warranty. Replacing the rear end gears might void the warranty on the rear end gears -- it wouldn't affect the rest of the truck and the gears would be covered by the Ford Service 12Kmile warranty anyway. I recommend running this idea by your salesman (or better yet his manager) and getting some feedback.
  • hawkpilothawkpilot Member Posts: 75
    There is some discussion on www.f150online.com about this, here is some of it:

    "Here is an update on the 5.4 with 3.55 limited slip rear end. Ford has put a hold on production of F150's
    that meet a certain crideria. XLT, 507A, X07 body code with 5.4 V8 auto with 3.55 limited slip rear end,
    4X2. For some reason this does not effect Styleside pickups (X17 code). Ford is doing some testing on
    some prototypes with this criteria and they think they have found the problem. If so, then production will
    resume sometime around the second week of November. I don't know what the problem is or was but
    according to Ford they have some 1255 truck orders on hold at the Kansas City Plant until this problem is
    resolved. "

    and a later post from the same guy:

    "The dealership says it has to do with some vibration issue with this configuration. Ford thinks they have a
    fix but they wont say what is causing the vibration or if it will create a recall. I live in the Houston, TX area
    and the Ford plant that is making this truck I am told is in Kansas City. This problem seems to effect only
    the Flareside with the combo that I mentioned in earlier postings. I am told that the problem only effects
    1999 models. "

    here is the complete url for the discussion:
    http://www.f150online.com/f150board/Forum10/HTML/000066.html

    Hopefully they will get it worked out soon!

    HP
  • ron4ron4 Member Posts: 24
    mp1

    I ordered and got the same truck you are getting .

    The only mistake I made was getting the stock tires that come w/ the 4x4 XLT. They are 235 x 16 mud and snow tires, or the same street tires that come w/the 4X2.

    They looked small and out of place on the 4X4 as there is too much wheel well clearance. Also, they are no good off road, and not nearly as good as AT tires in the snow.

    My dealer was kind enough to swap them out for me at 500 miles for only $159. That is cheaper than
    I could have got them from the factory. I got the
    Firestone 255 x 70r16's and they look real good.
    They are taller and wider than the standard.

    The standard wheels on the XLT for 99 are sharp - polished aluminum.

    Tire noise is no problem. both were quiet, but the M and S street tires did ride a little smoother.

    My speedometer is about 2MPH slow at 65MPH according to my GPS now. Likely due to the taller AT tires.

    Defineately go the AT tires, either the 255 x 70 or the 245 X 75 are fine (I think the 245 is a real truck tire w/ more plys).
  • ThauThau Member Posts: 25
    kdingh,
    Hi. Good evening. I know that dealer uses 1 to 99 "priority delivery system" for an order that is submitted to Ford. Since I hear you memtioned it in you recent post, I wonder if you know how it work. As for those that had waited for a long time before getting their truck delivered, just wonder if this priority delivery system is a factor. Just curious!!!
    Thanks for the respond. : )
  • kdinghkdingh Member Posts: 3
    Thau,
    Not sure about how the priority system works, but the dealer said he could bump me up to the beginning of the line and have the truck in 2 weeks. I have the added bonus of being close to the plant where they build the F150. Obviously that hasn't help me yet.
  • jajujaju Member Posts: 18
    I just put some champion truck plugs into my 95 f150 v8 5.0 and the parts guy said the recomended gap was .044. So off I went and installed them. But then I got to looking under the hood and saw where it said .052 to .056! I called another store and they too said for these plugs .044, what gives? Are there different gaps for diff brands? Any help will help! THANKS!!
  • hawkpilothawkpilot Member Posts: 75
    The recommended gap is based on your engine design, factors such as the voltage of the coil, desired shape of the discharge pulse, etc. If you in fact got the correct plugs for your engine, and you gap them according to the engine service data under the hood,in the service manual, etc, then you will have properly installed them.
    On the other hand, a gap of .044 when the engine specs call for .052, is not that big of a deal, you are only off .008, and the engine should run ok. you just won't get as hot a spark with as quick a rise time, at least until the plug wears a bit.

    HP
  • jajujaju Member Posts: 18
    THANKS HAWK!
  • jajujaju Member Posts: 18
    Got a question for ya. How do you take those lines off the gas filter? I tried to gently pull and no luck. (I did remove the clips) THANKS!!
  • jajujaju Member Posts: 18
    well I guess it would help to say that it is a 95 150 with a 5.0 v8 with twin tanks.
  • cobra98cobra98 Member Posts: 76
    "Also, they are no good off road, and not nearly as good as AT tires in the snow."

    If your stock tires were Mud and Snow, wouldn't they be better than all-terrain? AT tires usually have a more agressive off-road design, but off-roading/mud tires have different tread patterns than snow tires. I'm by no means a tire expert, just kinda relaying what I've heard. From what I've heard, snow tires are supposed to pack the snow within the tread (to a certain extent), whereas off-road (mud) tires are designed to release all mud/dirt. Anyone else here anything along these lines?
  • jajujaju Member Posts: 18
    Hey Hawk, I just got Email from Champion plug folks and they said that the gap they give is the very latest from Ford for the 95 f150. The gap listed on the sticker under the hood is not valid. Apparently Ford has changed the gap spec several times. Still need info on how to remove the gas filter on my 95 f150, v8 5.0 with dual tanks. How do those lines come off? I removed clips and pulled gently but no go. THANKS!
  • wazziwazzi Member Posts: 1
    I'm looking at a 97 F-150 Ext. Lariat w/leather,4.6L, cd, bedliner, flareside and 40,000 miles. Dealer wants $18,350.

    Another dealer has a 98 identical to this w/17,000 and wants $21,400.

    Both are white w/two-tone paint.

    Any comments on these prices? Judging by some of your posts, you guys are getting much better deals than I've been able to come with!
    Any thoughts would be appreciated.

    By the way, our 90 Aerostar was losing a quart of oil every 800 miles. It wasn't burning it, nor leaking, but Ford insisted that it was within their acceptable tolerances. They did a valve stem job under warranty, but 30,000 miles later, it was doing it again. This time, they rebuilt the engine! And the van had 64,000 miles on it!
    Which (and after nightmares w/GM & Chrsyler) is why I'm buying Ford again. I also love the trucks, although at first I didn't care for them. They do grow on you.
  • ron4ron4 Member Posts: 24
    Cobra

    Virtually all passenger car tires are now rated
    M/S for mud and snow. That means you can pass at some "chains or mud and snow tires only" restrictions in the mountains (here in CA I believe it is referred to as R1 restrictions).

    "AT", or all terrain tires used today or only modestly agressive. Generally they don't howl, and they are really a comprimse tire for on/off road.

    You are very right that in driving in snow you actually want your tire to "load up". This is because snow sticks to snow better than snow sticks to rubber - thus the better traction in snow.

    There are actually tire designed specifially for snow, and it was surprizing to me how conservative the tread pattern was. They also had holes pre drilled to accept studs. I had a set of them , w/ studs on a Dodge Radier 4x4 when I lived in Tahoe (avg snowfall 20' per yr), and they worked good.

    In mud, you want a very agressive, pavement howling tire, with a course tread. This better allows the mud to come off the tire, or for the tire to "clean itself" (thats why tractor tires have a "V" pattern of tread , w/ the "V" pointing up when looking at the tire from behind). If the tire doesnt clean, it loads up becomes like a "slick" with very poor traction.

    And, purely on looks, I think a street tire looks out of place on a 4X4.

    Certianly you can make nearly any tire work offroad to an extent, but the right tread pattern
    (just as on a trailbike or ATV) will get you farther. Driving skills are even more important.
  • dunbartondunbarton Member Posts: 46
    There is quite a discussion at this web site --

    www.f150online.com

    regarding problems with the Ford 5.4 liter V8. Dunbarton
  • hawkpilothawkpilot Member Posts: 75
    He he, wouldn't it be cool if we could somehow get all the discussion onto one board or the other? You and I and probably others are lurking both places and there is a respectable lack of cross posting, i.e. some of the same discussions are cropping up on both. I guess it could be worse, there could be more F150 boards to check every night!

    HP
  • hawkpilothawkpilot Member Posts: 75
    I'd still verify this info with Ford if I were you. A dealer should be able to look up TSB's that addressed the plug gap and confirm Champion's story. Have you asked Autolite?

    As for your fuel filter, the fuel system on injected vehicles is higher pressure than on carburetted ones, so the clamps must be tighter, making the hose stick to the metal fittings better if they have been in place a while. Have you tried grabbing the hose with pliers and trying to twist the hose to loosen it? This has worked for me.
  • jajujaju Member Posts: 18
    Thanks Hawk!
  • cdeancdean Member Posts: 1,110
    Ron4 or anyone with experience.

    this post is out of place, but i've seen some discussion here.
    I will be taking a 4x4 double cab SRW with Bridgestone M/Ts to Colorado from Texas in January. Will I need a different tire, or do i need to get chains. Common sense tells me the mudder tires will not be good in snow. I know nothing of driving in Colorado in the winter, so any info is appreciated.
  • akreinakrein Member Posts: 3
    I'm looking for a relatively low cost used 4x4 and found a 1992 F150 4x4, 5.0l v-8, 5 speed, about 100k mi, long bed, regular cab, ac, am/fm cass, tilt, cruise, power window/locks, new tires. Visually excellent condition. I haven't had a chance to test drive yet. Dealer asking $7500. Is this reasonable? Is there anything I should look out for? I don't know the specs on this engine/trans combo. What is it's towing capacity? Will it handle moderate towing, like a 17 ft boat? Spoke with dealer on phone and said it "runs like new, engine totally redone". Don't know what that means.

    Any help or advise would be appreciated.
  • popepadpopepad Member Posts: 10
    jaju, do NOT twist fuel line with pliers or tug on
    it by hand. There is a tool for this. Advance has
    it--they are plastic sleeves that fit around the
    line next to the filter. I use them on my '96
    F150 dual tank. The sleeves (tool) come in
    a blister pack for several diameter lines.
    I'm sure other auto supply outlets have these,
    also.
  • stanfordstanford Member Posts: 606
    akrein: I don't know where you are (geographically) but here in North Texas that would be a little pricy for the vehicle described.
  • hawkpilothawkpilot Member Posts: 75
    Thanks! I stand (somewhat) corrected. I have never seen these tools, and my experience is limited to non-f150's - vehicles (toyota, Nissan) that just had plain hose & screw clamps, and a little rotation of the hose on the fitting did the trick. If there is indeed a special tool, by all means use it.

    jmm
  • popepadpopepad Member Posts: 10
    hawkpilot(C-172?), If your experience is limited
    to "non-F150" vehicles why are you advising
    someone with an F-150 about something as
    critical as a high-pressure GASOLINE line?
    Ford publishes an excellent shop manual
    that takes the "shade tree" out of it.
  • jajujaju Member Posts: 18
    Thanks POPEPAD I will get that tool today!
  • jajujaju Member Posts: 18
    Got that set of tools to remove fuel and trans lines off. The guy at Advanced said definitely do not twist or pull off the line. It is a high pressure line and if you screw up the fitting Ford will charge you big time to replace the WHOLE line as it all one piece! They dont carry it. Those are braided steel covers over the lines and the fittings are crimped on. Cutting and clamping the line can leak as it is under higher pressure than carburetor type engines. The tool cost ten bucks which is a lot cheaper than a new line or the labor cost to replace it!
  • hawkpilothawkpilot Member Posts: 75
    Hoo boy... I feel pretty bad for dispensing bad advice. I looked back at my post, and it is not clear that I was not speaking from experience with F150s in particular. I thought I had mentioned that, but somewhere between my thoughts and my typing, that fact was omitted. I apologize.

    FWIW, jaju had posted that question several times and days had gone by, with no comment from anyone who was familiar with the specific system. I was just trying to help, based on my experience.

    I'm glad someone finally gave him the straight scoop, and that he got the correct tool, avoiding costly problems. I am also glad the question got correctly answered for the sake of others who will need to know.
  • jajujaju Member Posts: 18
    Hey Hawk! Dont worry about it! Your not the only one who gave me that advice. I'm always a little slow in doing things till I get all the info I can so I really appreciate your trying. This is how we all learn! Thanks again, Jack.
  • hawkpilothawkpilot Member Posts: 75
    Well, I'm glad you're not honked off... :-)
    Anyway, my f150 ignorance is soon to be moderated* (I hope). My order for the 99 XLT SC 4WD went through yesterday! I was waiting on the Sport grp (94T) to become available, and after one false start on Nov. 2, Ford made it available on the 16th. So in around 6 weeks, (whoohoo!) I should have my truck and the factory manual for it.

    *I agree with popepad re: service manuals; that is the first thing I always buy for a new vehicle. You can learn a lot about the inner workings by studying it before something needs repair.

    HP
  • popepadpopepad Member Posts: 10
    To jaju, SO Glad to hear you got the tools!
    To hawkpilot, You're gonna LOVE that new
    truck! Congratulations!
  • hawkpilothawkpilot Member Posts: 75
    Yeah, man. The toughest part of all this has been/is the waiting. Jeez, I feel like a kid again, waiting for Christmas (which, coincidentally is my approximate delivery date). I guess the reason I am hanging out on these boards so much is that if I can't drive it yet, I can at least talk/learn about it!

    HP
  • ron4ron4 Member Posts: 24
    cdean

    Your "mudders" should be fine in the snow, assuming they have good tread life left and you slow down the speeds.

    I would rather have "mudders" than passneger car "mud and snow M/S" rated tires in snow. Unless, of course, I was using cable chains.

    Normal car tires have 11/32" tread when new. I trash them a 3/32".

    Your chances of hydroplaning is way higher on a minimal tread tire, and snow won't "load up" like it should on a "slick".

    Good and safe driving to you.
  • ron4ron4 Member Posts: 24
    hawk

    You will LOVE your new truck. The reason I know, is because I have the same one you ordered (dont have or know what the sport grp is though).

    Got about 3500 mi on mine now. Handles great. real smooth (for a truck) and suprising how well it corners on twisty mtn. roads. This is a very quiet veh. too.

    If your not used to the supercab or a LWB, you will have to change your style a little on parking though.

    One thing I have noticed on the 99's is that they didn't continue the side mld on the bed like the 98's. It is only on the front fenders and doors.
    Not sure why as I would have preferred some more "door ding" protection.

    Also, whatever you may have heard about the stereo system (pun intended) and the veriable volume w/ windows down vs. up, must just be a sales gimmick as I cant tell any difference.

    Enjoy you new truck when you get it!
  • hawkpilothawkpilot Member Posts: 75
    Sport grp (for XLT 4X4): p265/70R17 tires, 17" cast alum rims, body colored bumpers & mirrors, decal, black grille, V8 badge.

    Sorry to hear you are disappointed with the stereo. I know one thing that is relatively cheap, and helps a lot with most factory sound systems is a full speaker transplant with some decent coaxials or other units with better frequency range. I am figuring I'll want to do just that, with maybe some aftermarket amps and subwoofer, depending on how it sounds with some decent speakers.

    My buddy has a '96 XLT and I have been after him to try that, since the sound is a bit "muddy" in his truck. The factory unit in my old Nissan sounded like that with the factory speakers, but sounded pretty good with pioneer coax's.

    I think the speakers are almost an afterthought in factory setups, except maybe those cars that have special Bose, JBL, or other "name brand" premium stereo systems.

    The factory head units are generally OK, as they are built by major audio makers for the car companies, and I'd think it is just as cheap for them to use the same guts as they do in branded units. I think Clarion made the one that came in my Nissan, and Fujitsu made the unit in my GF's old Toyota. They are often quite wimpy, power-wise, though.

    FWIW, As I understand the variable volume is that it is tied to vehicle speed? So it wouldn't know if the windows were open or closed, but just increases in volume to help compensate for increased noise at higher speeds.

    I hope it does work, since otherwise I would have just let it come in with the cassette deck (or tried to delete the stereo altogether) and swapped in an aftermarket, rather than pay $160 for the upgrade. If that is the only gripe I have with the truck, I will gladly take care of it in some way.

    Regarding handling, have you noticed much body roll, & would a rear sway bar be a good upgrade? I have seen others posting that it helped a lot. I guess it would hurt off-road some, if you were playing in the rocks, but I use my 4wd in mud, sand, and snow, so it may be a good idea, to make the on-road handling improve.

    Any other mods you'd consider, e.g. exhaust, air filter, performance chip?

    How's your fuel mileage?
  • hawkpilothawkpilot Member Posts: 75
    The discussion above made me think. I went and looked but saw no topic for Ford truck audio discussions, so I'm gonna start one...

    HP
  • cdeancdean Member Posts: 1,110
    Thanks, Ron4!
  • eijaeija Member Posts: 2
    I am interested in the "off-road" package for the 5.4l, extend cab, xlt 4x4 even though I realize I do not need it. I am hesitate to select this package because of the 3.73 axle. Is the fuel mileage that much worse than the the 3.55?
  • eijaeija Member Posts: 2
    Well, I just got back from the dealer with a 5.4l, extended cab,xlt, 4x4 off-road '99 f-150 and I am, with only 56 miles on it, so happy I could pee in my pants. It was the third time I have been to this particular dealer and finally bought the truck $200 under the invoice. On Monday I will return the '94 f-250 to the company, and try to contain myself as I pull into the jobsite. I will probably have to "pack a piece" in order to prevent jealous fellow employees from screwing with me. My wife is probably going to be pissed off when I sleep in my truck tonight in the back yard. Nice truck buddy!
  • hawkpilothawkpilot Member Posts: 75
    You may want to check out the "wax & polish" thread in "Smart Shopper." I'm sure someone there can tell you what to put on your seats to keep the pee from staining! He he he he.

    Congratulations on your great new truck, and keep us posted with your experience (just no laundry stories, huh?)
  • djholmdjholm Member Posts: 5
    hawkpilot,
    Glad to hear you are getting what you want. We have a '99 F-150 Lariat and L O V E IT!!! I put a A.R.E. bed lid on and it looks great, molded to the style of the truck.
    The stereo system noticeably changes volume with speed. You can adjust the level of change as well.
    I no longer hear, "turn the volume down!" when I slow down or pull into the garage! Set it and forget it.
    It is worth the wait! Merry Christmas!
  • hawkpilothawkpilot Member Posts: 75
    Thanks, dj!
    It is somewhat easier to wait with all you guys re-assuring me that I'm gonna love my truck.
    I hope Santa's little helpers across the bridge-tunnel in Norfolk get it built soon. I know I haven't been as good a boy as I could, but since I sold the Nissan, I've been going through "truck withdrawl." I had to borrow the neighbor's ragged out mazda to get some fenceposts and concrete today, and thought the entire time of how great it would be to be driving my new ford instead.

    HP
  • hawkpilothawkpilot Member Posts: 75
    Or some other festive holiday that comes BEFORE Christmas?

    The salesman just left me a message that delivery is anticipated December 7, +/- 7 days. WooHoo!

    Maybe I have been a better boy than I thought.

    This means a lead time of between 2-4 weeks, since the order went in on Nov 16. I hope he's not joshing me, but I have never heard of less than 6 weeks for a factory order on a new vehicle.

    I'm psyched...

    HP
  • dunbartondunbarton Member Posts: 46
    Hawkpilot,

    Five weeks for my '99 F150 (Aug 18 - Sept 23), Norfolk to New Jersey. One Lariat came in with mine in THREE weeks.

    Your gonna love it whether you have been a good boy or not! Dunbarton
  • hawkpilothawkpilot Member Posts: 75
    Hmm, well maybe 2-4 weeks ain't out of the question; I'm about 25 miles from Norfolk, so at least transit time is a few days less than it is to NJ.

    HP
  • signasigna Member Posts: 26
    Ordered my F150 4X4 lariat on Oct 24th. Dealer expects delivery to NJ the week of Dec 14th. If it comes in on time, that's between 7 and 8 weeks.
  • jpodmostkojpodmostko Member Posts: 1
    I have just about decided to order an F-150 xlt 4x4 ext.cab w/towing pkg. What is the difference between axle ratios? I will be pulling an 18.5 fish-n-ski (like a bass boat) boat, motor & trailer weigh about 2500lbs. I currently pull it with a Chevy S-10 4.3vortech. It is a little sluggish going up hills or passing. Should I get the 4.6 or the 5.4 eng.? Any one out there pull a similar boat? What engine & ratio do you have?
    Thanks, Joe.
  • hawkpilothawkpilot Member Posts: 75
    Dealer called today to tell me my delivery date has been pushed back to Dec 23rd. Disappointed, I called and told my SO. The little scamp felt sorry for me and came home with a remote control F150 model truck to make me feel better. he he he.

    Not only will I keep her, but I think I might just let her drive my new truck some when it gets here.

    HP
  • zpookzpook Member Posts: 7
    I'm comparing the Ford F-150 to the Dodge 1500. The problem is that the Ford comes with the 4.6 in a stick but I cannot get the 5.4 with a stick. The Dodge comes standard with a 5.2 5 speed stick. I pull a 18 ft. bass boat so I need the bigger motor in the Ford. Is there anyone out there with the smaller motor in the Ford and a stick that can tell me how it pulls. I'm going to buy one or the other in the next few weeks. If I buy the Ford I will be going with the XL. Has anyone heard anything about the Dodge to make me want to buy the Ford.
  • hawkpilothawkpilot Member Posts: 75
    I just looked at www.wheels.com, and their report for November says the F150 Supercab with 5.4 engine was on hold till the first week of Dec.

    I wonder if FMC is working on the engine to try and solve the "Cold Start Knock" problem.

    It also says both the V8's are limited availability. I guess that explains why my date got pushed back.

    HP
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