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Ford '99 Super Duty Delivery Issues
I've ordered a '99 F-250 Super Duty some time in
February. The delivery date was to be this week. No
such luck. The truck is on the build list for the
week of April 12.
My dealer was explaining a few things. First, Ford
is about 50,000 vehicles behind in deliverys. It's
not due to production problems but rather rail
road car problems. It seems that Union Pacific
merged and (To quote the dealer) "their computer
systems didn't." Of the 50,000 vehicles, either 20
or 30 thousand have been contracted to be delivered
by truck car carriers. The dealer further stated
that he has over a dozen Explorers on railroad cars
that NOBODY can tell him where they are.
So much for the generic stuff.
The super duty line was started and built one
phase of trucks. This phase is intended to iron out
the problems of the vehicle assembly process
itself. This week, the "Job 1" starts and these
vehicles have the do-do inspected out of them. The
Job 1 phase is intended to remove any production
line bugs. Everything on the Job 1 phase vehicles
are then fixed and vehicles are shipped. The dealer
says that the Job 1 phase is probably the best
place to get a vehicle from. What they do is then
take what has been learned from these 2 phases and
start production in earnest.
The Job 1 line started about three weeks late. I'm
guessing that the regular phase of production will
start 3-4 weeks late. So the June delivery dates
are probably going to slip into July or worse.
My dealer told me that the Super Duty trucks are
on a very strict allocation basis. He says that he
only has an allocation of 12 from the Job 1 phase.
He said that the middle part of the country is
getting a higher allocation of trucks. Fortunately
my vehicle is order number 0005.
Soooooooooooo if it REALLY gets built this week
and shipped on Friday, 4/17, and it is shipped by
truck, and the car carrier doesn't get stolen, and
the car carrier driver doesn't decide to stop off
home first, and no earthquake............ Maybe
I'll have my baby the first week in May. If the
shipping is by Union Pacific, it could be Labor
day.
Rich
February. The delivery date was to be this week. No
such luck. The truck is on the build list for the
week of April 12.
My dealer was explaining a few things. First, Ford
is about 50,000 vehicles behind in deliverys. It's
not due to production problems but rather rail
road car problems. It seems that Union Pacific
merged and (To quote the dealer) "their computer
systems didn't." Of the 50,000 vehicles, either 20
or 30 thousand have been contracted to be delivered
by truck car carriers. The dealer further stated
that he has over a dozen Explorers on railroad cars
that NOBODY can tell him where they are.
So much for the generic stuff.
The super duty line was started and built one
phase of trucks. This phase is intended to iron out
the problems of the vehicle assembly process
itself. This week, the "Job 1" starts and these
vehicles have the do-do inspected out of them. The
Job 1 phase is intended to remove any production
line bugs. Everything on the Job 1 phase vehicles
are then fixed and vehicles are shipped. The dealer
says that the Job 1 phase is probably the best
place to get a vehicle from. What they do is then
take what has been learned from these 2 phases and
start production in earnest.
The Job 1 line started about three weeks late. I'm
guessing that the regular phase of production will
start 3-4 weeks late. So the June delivery dates
are probably going to slip into July or worse.
My dealer told me that the Super Duty trucks are
on a very strict allocation basis. He says that he
only has an allocation of 12 from the Job 1 phase.
He said that the middle part of the country is
getting a higher allocation of trucks. Fortunately
my vehicle is order number 0005.
Soooooooooooo if it REALLY gets built this week
and shipped on Friday, 4/17, and it is shipped by
truck, and the car carrier doesn't get stolen, and
the car carrier driver doesn't decide to stop off
home first, and no earthquake............ Maybe
I'll have my baby the first week in May. If the
shipping is by Union Pacific, it could be Labor
day.
Rich
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but I cry every time I hear a delay! The good news is that, after hearing the delay with our buddies who ordered Dodges, I prepped myself for 12 weeks. I'm anticipating a mid-June delivery date. I won't even call my dealer until about week 8-9. He already called me to confirm the order had been sent.
Yuk, I sure did not want to hear that but I guess we have no choice but to stand in line and wait. I ordered an F250 2wd Mar 10 and was given a 12 week leadtime. They told me that the 4x4's were longer yet. I am going to call my dealer and get a ETA (estimated time of arrival), if it means anything.
I'm actually surprised that Ford is "only" 50K units behind. The SuperDuty line is (so far) just at the Louisville plant, and Ford is bragging about having 175,000 orders, or half the total Dodge Ram production. I know Ford has extra space in that building because they sold off the heavy truck line, but in order to bang that many trucks out in a year would mean 560 trucks a *day* on a 6 day/52 week production schedule.
Just a little quick for me to screw together something that could have to give its life to save a human one...
5 Weeks???? I wonder what your dealer's been smoking. FYI, your order should get picked up every week (on Thursdays). Priority 11 is only meaningful with your dealer, not any one else's. Besides, he could make everyone in the door from now on a 10.
Not to rain on your parade, but I'm afraid we all have a long wait...
You're right about the priority 11 only being meaningful to my dealer. That is what I meant about the priority. He did say that they can only order the 1999 trucks according to allocations. If they are not allocated any this week, which they aren't, then he can't order any. He is allocated 4 for next week. Unless he has been smoking something, he will be able to order 4 1999 trucks next week. If my order is clean, and he doesn't make someone else a priority 10, then my truck should get ordered. Like I said, I'm not holding my breath. I'm just hoping the wait isn't as long as everyone is expecting.
P.S. When you get your DORA (order receipt), find out what your actual priority is. It's in the upper right hand corner.
When I ordered mine, the sales jerk said I was going in as a 10 but the DORA showed 13. When I asked him about it, his response was he was overruled by the sales manager. Just B.S.
My Vehicle Order Confirmation shows it as order number 6774, priority: 11, order type: 1, price level: 911. I feel like the dealer is being honest with me. This is the 3rd truck that I have ordered from him and he is the manager of this dealership. I hope he is being trueful with me. I'll keep you posted.
By the way my Odrder num is 3222, Priority 39, Order type 1 and price level 910. The sales mgr told me that even though my priority number is real high, I may still get my truck before someone with a much lower number from another dealership because his dealership moves a lot more trucks they also get more? Any comments? Thanks.
It is not the F350 4x4 or V10 Brutus cause I ordered F350 V10 4x4, mine is XLT though
I have a VIN number!!!
The dealer said it was probably built this week.
Now sit down for this one.....
My dealer said that he ordered two for me. He screwed up on the first order and didn't put the two tone nor the remote control mirrors on this one. It is an XLT power stroke super cab F-250. AND IT IS ON THE LOT! (White in color, 2x4, LWB large tires, slide rear window auto trans, bench seat and positraction rear end 3.73:1)
It is in the South LA Metro area. Drop me an E-Mali and I'l give you the dealer details if you want an all white one.
Rich
Glad to hear you got your truck. When did you order it?
I ordered in mid February.
Kirkpama,
I did EXACTLY what you did and for EXACTLY the same reasons.
My dealer is selling at about $1200 over invoice. This turns out to be about the best in the area. I went through a few of the web based "Buying Services". Actually a joke. The first wanted $300 over MSRP. The second started at $1500 over invoice, maybe, depending upon demand. Wanted a grand upfront before anything would be done. For this area I'm doing ok. Not as good as later this year but ok.
By the way, I went with the leather, not because it's luxurious, but because it's easier to clean. The deciding factor was when a friend related a story about having his young daughter, shall we say, not be able to hold her water on a trip home. He had to have a heavy duty detailing to get rid of the stain and the corresponding aroma.
1. Printed a quote on the New SuperDuty from the KellyBB site with all the options I wanted.
2. Printed 2 quotes on my Old Blazer 1 at avg book and 1 at high.
3. Printed an offer from me Showing that I wanted 90% of high book on my trade and wanted to pay Exactly the dealer invoice (incl uding dest and delivery) for the new truck.
They counter offerred $250 over inv, I countered with $100 over and we shook hands and entered the order!
He had a F-350 V10 with about everything I wanted except it's a 4X2. I still haven't got a build date and boy was I tempted to grab it. Also, there is no sales tax in Oregon, but if I registered in CA within 3 months I'd still have to pay here. Still....it means there are trucks out there!!!!!
The first was $400 over invoice, but added another $200 of undercoating, etc. The second was more competitive (I promised not to tell on the internet!), and said he expected 4-8 weeks for delivery.
He was not lying! I got my truck exactly 4 weeks from the day I faxed him an order. Here is what I bought:
'99 F350, SRW, PSD, 4x4, Crew Cab, Short Bed, Lariat (with leather), 6 spd, Camper and Trailer Tow, ABS, Off Road, Clearance Lights, Hitch, Power Mirrors, Privacy Glass, CD.
The dealer was Larry Schronce in Taylorsville, NC.
Wayne Burstein
Now get this, they say the truck will be in California by 5/18. Only 2 weeks after build. Let's hope tis isn't a pipe dream....
I was also tempted to do the Oregon thing. I even have a way to deal with the registration in Oregon ($39 for TWO years) and driver's licence. The kicker was the insurance. If you get stopped in CA with OR driver's licence and registration why would you have CA insurance? A really big problem! If you have OR insurance and a claim from CA the insurance company wants you to justify the CA accident. It was the insurance thing that I could never get around.
Rich
Ed
I also found out that several trucks have come to the dealers less an option or two that people have requested. He told me they obviously have to make good and order what ever is missing. I just have a gut feeling some like that will happen to me because I went with so many options. I'll hold my breath when that truck comes in as I go over my quote and the delivery invoice.
Mroffshore
The good news for those of you that did not order the Lariat is that it appears most of the other delays have been ironed out. My dealer took an order for one of the non-Lariats a week or so before mine. It's due in at the dealership today. That makes the order time about 6-7 weeks. I'm still hoping for 12 weeks, but we will see. It's also possible that it may just impact this region because they are over allotment.
By the way, I'm still very impressed with this dealership. Besides getting the truck for $99 below dealer invoice, I've been impressed with the salesperson handling my order. I've probably already posted it in this topic, but just in case, my salesperson's name is Danny Ware at Isbell Ford in Oklahoma. www.isbellford.com.
5/25 ( ordered an F-250 crew cab lariat with ps
diesel back on 3/7) Can't wait till it gets here!