Subaru Crew Problems & Solutions

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    It was fast yesterday. Today's it's so-so, but not as bad as last week, when I could barely post at all.

    The Forester had poor range, but when I switched to the 2nd one, it got better. Maybe the battery was low? There is a tiny phillips screw on the back of mine, though I've never opened it.

    -juice
  • lucien2lucien2 Member Posts: 2,984
    I replaced the battery 1st. No diff.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Hmm, odd. My 2nd one has more range than my 1st did even when it was brand new, curiously.

    I wonder if you can wholesale purchase those, because they have to be programmed to your car some how. Maybe only dealers can do it.

    -juice
  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
    You may want to make sure the contacts below the buttons are clean. Use a pencil eraser to clean 'em if needed.

    -Brian
  • jmulholljmulholl Member Posts: 29
    Jim:
    I have a 2000 Legacy wagon. The plugs he took out were non-platinum.
    I had a '75 Spyder. Sorry I ever sold it.

    re the fuel filter: Thanks for the info on replacing it yourself. Will keep it in mind for the next change. The $45 charge seemed cheap relative to the $125 that Kimmell quoted. (BTW, Kimmell is a Baltimore area tire/tuneup chain). I just called my Subaru dealer, who would put it in at $50, so Kimmell is the real outlier here.

    re the discussion on dealers: Washington (DC) Checkbook's survey of its subscribers consistently finds dealers to charge high prices and give poor service. The high price is understandable, but it mystifies me why concentrating on one class of vehicles would not allow them to do a good job as well.
  • armac13armac13 Member Posts: 1,129
    I had to replace one of the fobs for my Forester as my friend lost it just before I sold the car. It cost about $100 Cn (about $65 US). The dealer programmed it for me at no charge. Your owners manual tells you how to program it though.

    Ross
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    Have you checked the position of the antenna on the keyless entry head unit? I'm not sure where it resides on the GT, but in my Forester, it's mounted under the dash to the left of the steering column. The antenna needs to be extended straight upwards for best reception.

    Ken
  • lucien2lucien2 Member Posts: 2,984
    I bet the last guy futzed with it when he did the stereo install, 'cos neither of the fobs work very well. Plus he disabled the mechanical locks (!)
  • armac13armac13 Member Posts: 1,129
    Ross
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    BTW, I saw a classified at i-Club.com where someone was selling a hardly used clutch for just $50! Something to consider, used parts can be dirt cheap.

    He got an ACT, which isn't a bad idea if you modify the engine (turbo, S/C, etc.)

    -juice
  • zoozoozoozoo Member Posts: 2
    I have a 2002 Forester. It runs well and there are no warning lights on but it frequently emits a rattling noise from the engine which eventually goes away at random. I had the heat shields checked - nothing loose. I went to the dealer but by the time I got there there was no noise. They ran some tests and told me that they found nothing wrong. They told me that since no lights go on, they do not suspect that it is a serious problem. I only use 93 octane gas. I also had the ignition timing checked. The rattling comes from under the hood of the car and when it comes, it is considerably loud. One minute it is there, then the next it is gone completely. I would really appreciate any advice that can shed some light on this weird problem.

    Thanks
  • subaru_teamsubaru_team Member Posts: 1,676
    Do you use the same brand of fuel? If you do, you may want to changes for a few tanks to see if it clears up. That's the only thing that comes to mind.

    Patti
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    You think the engine is pinging?

    If so, the knock sensor ought to pick that up audibly, and then retard the spark timing slightly. In other words, if it goes away, the knock sensor is just doing it's job.

    If that's the case, try a bottle of dry gas in the tank, there may be condensation in there.

    -juice
  • dudedude Member Posts: 123
    Well, just got an estimate on how much it would take to repair the sunroof. Get ready.......

    $1000 clems. Unbelievable. They said I need a new track which costs $670 dollars plus labor. Unreal.
  • jfljfl Member Posts: 1,398
    That's pretty hefty. I chose an "L" specifically because I didn't want a sunroof.
  • nonracer1xnonracer1x Member Posts: 3
    Have you bought an "ADDED SECURITY" warranty? The subaru.com website lists the no-deductible 60 month/60,000 mile warranty for $786 not the $875 price the dealer quoted me. But no one has replied whether they have any experience with this warranty or whether it might be worth it. One may buy it anytime before the original 3 yr/30,000 miles expires but the dealer tells me that Subaru may raise the premiums in October. please help.

    #202 of 223 post-purchase questions. by nonracer1x Aug 11, 2002 (09:27 am)
    we just bought a FORESTER 2.5XS yesterday and have a few questions (which I had not prepared for despite my best efforts):
    1. extended warranty protection: I usually pass on this for other purchases but hope to own the subi far past the 3 year/30K miles warranty. No way to predict the future, but does anyone have any insight whether $875 might be worth it for a 6yr/60K (=three more years/30K miles)coverage? the finance person (lot of profit on this I've heard) mentioned the moving parts, electrical and microcircuits that might mess up. Is subi any more durable than honda/vw which i've owned in the past? .... please see the other three questions and answer if you can. Thank you.
  • kenzinnskenzinns Member Posts: 2
    I'm about ready to get a new set of tires for my '99 Forester L (got about
    44.5K miles on the original set). I had to replace one tire at about 20K and
    was not able to find a tire to match the original Bridgestones where I was. So
    my current spare is unused, and the correct tire size, but not an exact match.

    That's always bothered me somewhat - I blew out the one original tire on a dirt
    road out in the middle of nowhere, and fortunately I had the matching original
    spare to replace it and continue on. But if the same thing would happen again,
    I'd only have the non-matching spare. I do get out on some remote dirt roads
    like that on occasion.

    Should I be concerned about this at all or am I being overly cautious? Would I
    be better off replacing all 5 tires or would replacing just the 4 be good
    enough? Thanks in advance for your input.
  • gjoygjoy Member Posts: 2
    Hey all,

    I'm about to change the engine oil in my sport for the first time and am wondering if there is any special advise or warnings.

    I'm sure the question has come up before -- perhaps step by step instructions have been compiled somewhere -- or is that too systematic and boring?

    I'd also like to know where to order subaru parts at a favorable price. I want to get a luggage strap for the cargo area.

    Hope you're all staying cool, grace.
  • idahodougidahodoug Member Posts: 537
    If I read your post correctly, you put an unused spare on with 3 tires that had 20k wear on the dirt road. Then you bought a new spare that is not the same exact tire.

    As to your question, a spare that's close will be fine as you seem like the type to use it only as an emergency tire rather than to rotate it through usage and wear it out. Anything that will get you the 50 miles to a shop would be appropriate.

    A bigger concern would be that you drove another 24,500 miles with a tire that was a different size than the other 3 on an AWD vehicle. Be advised that Subaru's standard for tires is that there be no more than .25 inches variance in circumference. Since the other tires were half worn out, you were definitely outside that.

    Economically, the best strategy would be to buy 5 new tires and rotate the spare through to keep it the same diameter. Then you also get more wear out of a given set of tires.

    IdahoDoug
  • celica115celica115 Member Posts: 169
    I brough my 02 wrx to the auto shop for oil change this morning. We found out there is engin oil leaking from the timing box. It is not serious but I can't believe it. My subie has 12500 miles. I never push too hard on my wrx (never beyond 6000 RPM). This is my first new car, my first subaru. Now I am very disppointed. >__< ...
  • kevin111kevin111 Member Posts: 991
    nonracer1x - Subaru, per CR, is more reliable / durable than a VW, but is on par with Honda. Subaru had about 12 problems per 100 in the first year which is equal to Toyota as the best. In general, Subaru has a very good reputation. The Forester had a problem with the wheel bearings, that was aparently fixed in 2001. Buy the extended warrentee if it will give you peace of mind. Most likely, you will not get your money's worth out of it, but the peace of mind would be worth it.

    celica115 - take it to the dealer. It should be covered under the warentee. Make sure the mechanic did not screw up (by accident have some of the oil leak).
  • hammersleyhammersley Member Posts: 684
    I'm certainly no expert, but I do change my own oil, so here's at least a few tips. Others will chime in as well - it's the collective information here that helps the most. (hmmm...collective... Subaru Borg? Resistance is futile!)

    Buy a sturdy pair of ramps to elevate the front end. Lots more room to work. Not mandatory, just recommended. You'll also need a new crush washer for when you re-install the drain plug (flat side to the pan, right, Crew?)

    Make sure you're draining the right pan. Oil pan is more towards the front of the car, tranny pan is further back. Warm oil drains better, so warm the engine up a bit.

    Drain the pan first, then loosen the oil filter a bit & let it drain a minute before you remove it. Careful, it still has a lot of oil in it. Or, drill the bottom of it & drain it that way before removal.

    The general consensus here is use something other than a FRAM filter. Personally, I use NAPA Gold, others have their preferences. IIRC Subaru's filter is a Purolator. Lubricate the filter gasket with clean oil, and screw it on hand-tight, about 3/4 turn after the gasket makes contact with the filter mount. Use good oil, too... no sense scrimping with such a vital compnent. I use Castrol; others, again, have personal preferences.

    As long as you're still under the car, now's a good time to spray the sway bar bushings with a bit of lithium grease, Keeps 'em from squeakin' (special thanks to Juice!)

    Refill the oil (check the manual for amount), back it down off the ramps, then check your oil level on level ground after allowing the oil sufficient time to drain throught the engine to the pan. Top off as needed, and I think you're done. I usually take a cople extra minutes to check everything else under the hood before I button it up. Note the LOF in your manual and save your receipts. Voila!

    OK, gang... bail me out. What did I forget?

    Cheers!
    Paul
  • snead_csnead_c Member Posts: 64
    Very well done hammersley...
    I might add...partially fill oil filter before installing (judge angle of installed filter so as to avoid spilling out.)This avoids dry spot in the lube system in initial start up.
    Consider using Fumoto engine oil drain plug (avail from internet model # Subaru F105.) Fram has a version available which may work ok but it looks a little cheap. This makes changes cleaner and easier.
    Allow oil to stop dripping (as much as possible or as your patience will allow) It's amazing how much dirty oil will drip, drip ,drip before it stops !
    Use Mobil 1 or similar full synthetic (not Syntec)
    if you want a cushion on effects of heat from turbo on oil and plan to keep the engine in top condition for a long time.
    Carry used oil to dealer for proper disposal.
    Some nuts like me also wipe the bottom side of the engine bay down while lying around under the car...ah yes, chock the rear wheel after using the ramps...and remember to remove everything from the underside (and the chock ) when finished. Then get off the ramps and enjoy !
  • leo2633leo2633 Member Posts: 589
    The crush washer used on the oil pan drain plug goes with the FLAT side against the bolt (drain plug) and the RAISED side against the oil pan.

    Len
  • originalbitmanoriginalbitman Member Posts: 920
    Doug - What do you know about Hwy 12 from say Walla Walla east through Idaho and beyond? We are leaving soon on our road trip from Eureka to Wisconsin and are stopping in Missoula on the way. We drive primarily 2 lane and have never been on Hwy12. Thinking of taking 395 to 12 and then 12 straight to the Twin Cities.

    bit
  • jay_24jay_24 Member Posts: 536
    Bit,

    I haven't done 12 across Montana but Hwy 2 and 200/87 were good a couple years back. Across the Dakotas 12 should be more fun than boring old I-94.

    If you don't mind where to in Wisconsin? I'm 2 miles from Hwy12. I'll wave as you go by....

    --jay
  • celica115celica115 Member Posts: 169
    The mechanic did not screw up for sure because he showed it to me before oil changed. Well, I think that I have one of the 12 problem cars from Subaru. lol ... Do I have to take it to the dealer that I bought from or any other? By the way, after I have changed the K&N filter. My subie can run 35 m/g on highway.
  • originalbitmanoriginalbitman Member Posts: 920
    I grew up in Shawano (near Green Bay) and the wife's brothers' families live the West Bend area. We drive it every year. Last time we took 50 and the year before 2. Both great rides and great roads.

    bit
  • jay_24jay_24 Member Posts: 536
    Cool. I've lived up by the Twin Cities but the Wisconsin side of the river all my life. Every so often I make a trip out to Idaho/Montana/Wyoming for some hiking or trout fishing.

    --jay
  • originalbitmanoriginalbitman Member Posts: 920
    Where do you live now?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    You can go to any dealer.

    We got the Subaru Gold for my wife's 2002 Legacy, 7/100 with zero deductible.

    Even though my Forester has cost me exactly nothing after 47k miles, like the man said it's the piece of mind.

    Our previous car, a 626, cost us $2500 in repairs in the 6th and 7th year, despite being reliable before that. CR still rates it very highly, so what? You wanna see the bills we had to pay?

    The warranty costs less than half that, and we can be secure in knowing that this car will last us until 2009.

    I don't care how well any car scores in a survey, we're talking 2009 and no out-of-pocket repairs.

    -juice

    PS Watch, Murphy's Law will prevail, and it'll be the perfect car! Still, it adds resale value when we buy that Blitzen in 2008.
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    Paul,

    Nice write-up on the oil change. The only thing I do differently is that I begin with the oil filter first. I find that the pan takes a lot longer to drain so I like to get the filter out of the way to free up my oil catch pan.

    For those who don't use ramps, jacking up your vehicle on the side opposite of the drain plug (in the case of our Subies, it's usually the driver's side) will speed up the oil draining.

    Ken
  • originalbitmanoriginalbitman Member Posts: 920
    On my GT with the slip out panel in the plastic splash guard I can change my oil without ramps or jacking. It is a somewhat snug fit but not at all a problem. You can access the filter and pan plug quite easily.

    bit
  • kevin111kevin111 Member Posts: 991
    it will still give you peace of mind that you do not have to worry about the cost of emergency repairs.

    The other cool thing about the warrenty, from what I have heard, is that you can buy it at any time before the current warranty expires. So theoretically, I think I either have 50k to 60K miles till I can decide to buy it.
  • idahodougidahodoug Member Posts: 537
    On my '97 2.2 Legacy there is a small washer seal that goes on the filter screw when using the factory filter. I don't know if this is true on other filters built for my model, but I bought a factory filter for the first change until I can get a chance to see what else is out there for it.

    I was also able to drain and change my oil just by sliding under. Loved the oil filter orientation - can we send the engineers an award for putting it vertically to minimize oil spillage? Can't believe others don't do this whenever they have space.

    Another tip is to avoid overtightening the filter so it makes it easy to remove when you take it off later. I experimented with one of my cars to see how loose it could go. I think most recommend that you turn it 3/4 turn after the rubber seal starts to contact the engine. I was at 1/4 turn after several successive oil changes getting less and less tight on the install. No leaks. Now I use about a 1/3 revolution and I can spin the filter off with one hand. Been doing this for years. Fighting a stuck filter can really ruin what is dare I say a pleasurable experience.

    I also remove the oil filler cap atop the engine before draining and always drain a hot engine. This produces max oil flow out the drain and max turbulence to remove any grundge that's been accumulating.

    Any partial quarts left over go underhood in the space next to the battery so I can add a bit on a long road trip if needed.

    IdahoDoug
  • hammersleyhammersley Member Posts: 684
    Thanks for filling in the blank spaces, crew. Grace, hoope we've all been some help.

    Cheers!
    Paul
  • idahodougidahodoug Member Posts: 537
    I've never been on Idaho 12, but a buddy of mine who's driven all over the state says it's a really picturesque route. You're along a river, so pack a picnic lunch and stop at one of the many available spots along the river bank and hang out.

    Sounds like a sweet drive you guys have planned. I pulled out a map as my wife and I frequently drive from here to Michigan via the twin cities. We stopped in Minneapolis last Wednesday on our way back from the latest trip and the mosquitos were unbelieveable there, BTW. Pack some DEET containing spray if you're going to be outdoors and you sound like the type.
  • originalbitmanoriginalbitman Member Posts: 920
    Doug - Are you sure that's not the washer for the oil pan drain plug? At least that's the way it works on my 01.

    bit
  • stevekstevek Member Posts: 362
    No reason to jack up the car or have ramps. I drive my 01 Legacy GT onto a pair of planks (I think they are 2*10) and it raises the car just enough to get under without any major difficulty. I did not notice any difference as far as the oil not draining out. Anyhow since the car takes @4.5 quarts of oil, once the drip stops I just throw about a half a bottle in at the top and watch it drain out, once the celan oil comes out I know all the old oil is gone.
    Does this extra oil puts me into the O... whatever group :) ????
    Little story, I have a 1977 Firebird with over 120K on it, changed the oil at least every 3k. Took the engine apart to change the cam (why not it was there and begging to get out), the lifters and rods were sparkling clean, which proves frequent oil change makes a difference.
  • nygregnygreg Member Posts: 1,936
    to torque the oil pan bolt to 35 ft/lbs.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Rhino ramps are worth the investment, I think mine were $35.

    The Forester has a bottom plastic cover that you also have to take off, but I ended up cutting a hole for easy access. I had a web site with instructions but homepage.com went out of business and took my web site with it. Your OBS should be even easier.

    For parts, try e-mailing parts@libertysubaru.com, those were the best prices I could find.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    That's right. We were footing these bills at the worst time - when my wife was pregnant with kid #2. The car was aging and it became a money pit (again, despite high reliability ratings).

    Now we're set until 2009 and can plan ahead without $2k in surprise repair bills.

    Another benefit from the Subaru Gold - you get roadside assistance. You get it with the standard warranty for 3 years, but we'll get the full 7 years of it. In our case, that'll save us $280 just in AAA memberships, so we already made about a 1/4 or our money back. :-)

    Add the better resale, and the cost isn't all that significant for the reduced risk.

    -juice
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    Ditto on the Rhino ramps. Although the Forester has ample ground clearance to get under and change the oil, extra clearance always makes things easier.

    Ken
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I can do without it, but I like to have room to work. Besides, I have them out for the Miata (mandatory) anyway, so it's no extra work for me.

    -juice
  • stevekstevek Member Posts: 362
    Since I have a 5 speed ..... going up on those ramps is avoided at all cost, Subarus don't have the best cluthces IMHO.
  • mrdetailermrdetailer Member Posts: 1,118
    I would recommend Nate Wade Subaru in downtown SLC for dealer service. I had an auxiliary belt break on the way to the airport and I drove in without an appointment, they fixed it in less than an hour and charged $25.00 bucks total. I've used independent mechanics since I live in Utah County and had a bad experience with the local dealer. When they have serious problems, or parts that my local Subaru dealer doesn't have it's always Nate Wade Subaru where they go. Says a lot to me.
  • celica115celica115 Member Posts: 169
    I just got my subie back from dealer. They found oil leak coming from oil pump. They replaced oil pump seal and o ring.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    My driveway is on a downhill, so I drive down onto the ramps, piece of cake. The cars end up at about level, too, for best draining of the oil pan.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Cool, keep an eye on that oil level for a while, maybe every time you fill up with gas.

    Actually, it's something we should all do regardless.

    -juice
  • mrdetailermrdetailer Member Posts: 1,118
    Call and tell them immediately. Have them wipe off the leak with a rag, and then check it a few days later. If it's not right they have to fix it. Establish a record early.
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