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  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    So what's the deal with ethanol as an additive (not E85)? (I know I can look it up, but you guys seem to know.)

    Am I right that in last year's gigantic "energy bill" that finally passed, MTBE was banned as an additive, but 10% ethanol was required for ALL gas, winter and summer, even in rural areas without air pollution problems? Was there some kind of phase-in, or was it done all at once?
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,676
    ADM et al have lots of friends in congress. They paid enough for them and expect returns on their investment.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • plektoplekto Member Posts: 3,738
    MBTE was and is an environmental nightmare, and Ethanol is a good thing, actually. Eventually, we'll have to be running with up to 50% Ethanol or on Biodiesel. Probably within the next 30-40 years.

    I personally don't care if it's Flubber as long as it makes my car go and gets me from A to B without making me need a second job to do so.
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    10% ethanol was required for ALL gas, winter and summer

    Actually it is 2.78% ethanol in regular unleaded. That figure can be more or less depending on the location. Places that are selling E10 make it so others do not need any ethanol. High pollution locations will probably be getting 5-7% ethanol. Right now there is not enough to cover the 2.78% mandate. That will require about 7.5 billion gallons per year.

    With current ethanol production at 4.4 billion gallons per year we cannot meet the mandate. That leaves zero ethanol for E85.
  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Member Posts: 9,372
    6 cents back up to $2.89 for 87. hard to tell what that means as our big annual arts festivals start this week and there will be a large influx of vehicles for the week.

    So I guess the prices are reacting to pre-demand demand, right?? ;)
  • jae5jae5 Member Posts: 1,206
    Fuel shot up another dime:
    Cheapest 87-octane: $3.11 at Meijers
    Next cheapest: $3.13 at Speedway and Gas City (gas only, with wash $3.08)
    At work: $3.23 at Shell, BP (though saw a Speedway on the way @ $3.27)
    E85: $2.89
    :sick: :sick:
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    So I take it Congress mandated a specific total amount of ethanol to be added (7.5 billion gallons a year), which averages out to 2.78% at current gasoline consumption levels?

    Now, it's starting to make sense (not that I agree with the mandate).
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    So I take it you live in the Midwest? Chicago per chance, or out in the boonies?
  • KCRamKCRam Member Posts: 3,516
    My usual Sunoco, Palisades Park NJ. Gas WAY up, diesel ain't budging:

    87 - $2.979
    89 - $3.079
    91 - $3.149
    93 - $3.179
    diesel - $2.759

    kcram - Pickups Host
  • johnnykludejohnnyklude Member Posts: 4
    Really helped me- just wanted to share

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    what do you guys think?

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  • bottgersbottgers Member Posts: 2,030
    ....had an argument last night, so expect a nationwide price hike of about $.10 to $.20 a gallon!
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    I filled up my '85 Silverado at the local Citgo (Greenbelt area of Maryland). I put in 89 octane, $3.239 per gallon. I think 87 was $3.139 and 93 was probably $3.339.

    Fuel economy seems to have improved a bit, too. On the last tank I figure I got close to 14 mpg. I dunno if that Dodge Dart air cleaner top I put on it is really helping or not, though. It does make it sound nicer when you stomp on it, though! :P
  • rockyleerockylee Member Posts: 14,017
    Went back up to $2.95, a jump of $0.10 over the last week. :sick: The Shell station on the N' side of Amarillo was $2.86.

    Lemko, What's the slop prices in PA ?

    Rocky
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    ...holding steady: Sunoco Regular is $3.07, Plus is $3.12, "premium?"91 is $3.17, and "ultra?"93 is $3.27.
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    Station down the street sells all the exotic fuels to the Off road race crowd. They have 117 octane fuel for $7.89 per gallon. If you need some high powered stuff I can mail it to you.....
  • rockyleerockylee Member Posts: 14,017
    Still ultra expensive I see. :surprise:

    Rocky
  • bumpybumpy Member Posts: 4,425
    If you put 117 octane in your car, you have either gutted your cat or you will gut your cat. I'd just about guarantee that stuff has lead in it.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,676
    :D I didn't think you can ship gasoline through the post office? :D

    Local gas prices 2.89$

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    I'm sure you cannot... I just thought it was interesting that such a fuel was even available. I saw an ad for a dune buggy that the engine requires 111 octane. I guess the station near me is the place to get it. They had at least a dozen different fuels all with high octane numbers. 117 being the highest and most expensive. I have no idea if it has lead in it.
  • jae5jae5 Member Posts: 1,206
    Yes. Chi-town, though I recently moved to the outskirts of the boonies. It's funny, this side of the road hustle & bustle; the other side of the road, farm and forest perserves.

    We're from Ala originally, across the river from Columbus, GA.
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    The Citgo near my workplace (which used to be an Amoco) is now a Valero! Prices haven't changed, still $2.79 for 87.

    Valero has existed for a couple of years on Virginia's Eastern Shore, that small peninsula along the Atlantic extending down from Maryland and Delaware.
  • mark156mark156 Member Posts: 1,915
    Gagrice, I was catching up in this forum reading about 600 post or so over the last week.

    Do you still have your Sprinter Motorhome? You know that a new thread has opened "Purchasing Motorhomes" in the Smart Shopper forum.

    I would like to hear about what you bought and how the sales pitch went, etc, if you care to share on that thread.

    To stay on topic.. I have never seen gas with an octane any higher than 93! I drive across the country at least twice a year covering at least 7 states and all I see are the three grades plus diesel.

    Thanks, Mark :D
    2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    Yes I still have my Sprinter. I will meet you in that Forum. There are a couple stations around here that have 104 octane listed on their sign out front. That stuff the El Capitan has must be racing fuel of some sort. I think AV gas is about 104-105 octane?

    Next time I stop in I will get a copy of that price sheet. It told a bit more about the fuels they sell.
  • rockyleerockylee Member Posts: 14,017
    Citgo will slowly disappear out of some states according to the news yesterday I heard on the radio. :surprise:

    Valero, is a huge company and from the looks of it will be coming to new markets. I was in Amarillo and paid $2.92 a gallon for 86 "regular" ? SLOP at the Phillips station. In Dumas, the Valero SLOP was $2.95 and I did notice the Dumas, Walley World dropped their slop prices to $2.86. My lil' V-6 Mustang is okay on fuel economy at around 25 mpg on the HWY.

    The bottom line is SLOP is still expensive here in the TX panhandle.

    Lemko, what's the slop prices up their today ? :blush:

    Rocky
  • martianmartian Member Posts: 220
    Anybody know what gas at the local marina is? i hear people are NOT taking out their boats=period!
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    They used to sell that 86 slop as "Economy" grade back in the day.

    Sunoco prices vary between $3.03 and $3.09 in the City of Philadelphia for 87 Regular. I've seen it as high as $3.13 in the suburbs. Nuts!
  • rockyleerockylee Member Posts: 14,017
    Wife says slop here went up to $2.91 at Walmart. The rest are holding at $ 2.93-$3.00 in town. :sick: :cry: :mad:

    Rocky

    P.S. Looks like Slop is going up. They are getting us seasoned for hurricane prices. :surprise:
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,419
    The Chevron I patronize is at 3.08, with the usual gradients IIRC.

    Seattle area is at 3.04 vs national average of 2.95. Funny thing, 6-8 weeks ago Seattle was a good 30+ cents higher than average. Random numbers...

    Prices are sure to be jacked by hurricane paranoia, and the idiotic mess in the Israel-Lebanon area could do even more damage...esp if the morons involve Syria.
  • rockyleerockylee Member Posts: 14,017
    Yep I agree we could see the return of $3+ gas across the nation. :sick:

    Rocky
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    We only dropped to $3 for a few days in San Diego. Now most are at $3.25 or higher. Costco is holding at $3.15 at the store near by me. No slowdown on the traffic. Went out for late breakfast and to get the truck washed. It was still crowded at 10:30 AM on our freeways. By the way we had dinner in sight of the San Diego Trolley station out our way. Of all the trolleys to come in and go out none had more than 3 or 4 people on them. What a waste of tax payers money. Last I heard over 100 million a year to keep it going.
  • rockyleerockylee Member Posts: 14,017
    Your gas is very expensive still. We are climbing closer to y'alls it seems every few days. :sick:

    Rocky
  • kernickkernick Member Posts: 4,072
    Sunoco 93 octane was $3.01 this morning and then went up to $3.04 this afternoon - SW New Hampshire. That's sounds pretty low compared to most of you.
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    This is an average for all the San Diego area.
    Unleaded regular $3.322
    Premium $3.536
    Diesel $3.201

    Highest reported is $3.53 for Shell regular and $3.84 for Shell Premium
  • rockyleerockylee Member Posts: 14,017
    WOW............. :surprise:

    Rocky
  • nifty56nifty56 Member Posts: 279
    $1.06 a liter
    1 Imperial Gallon = 4.54 liters = $4.80 $CDN/imp.gal or $4.25 $U.S.
    1.2 U.S. Gallon = 4.54 liters or 3.78 liters per 1 U.S gal = $4.01 CDN/U.S. gal or $3.55 $U.S.
    So it appears my location is on par with some U.S locations..Some parts of Canada are even higher $1.20 CDN a liter..
    Hope my calculations are correct??
    At present 1 CDN dollar will get me .88 U.S. cents or $1.13 CDN to buy 1 U.S dollar
  • edwin10edwin10 Member Posts: 32
    Filled up last night in Leander, TX $2.71 for regular.

    Gas prices will not go down. Americans will not make
    any attempt to reduce consumption, and gas producers
    know this. If everyone would reduce consumption by
    as little as 5%, we would see a good drop in prices.

    With all the violence in the world, and US supplies
    dropping, this means prices will rise more, and more.
  • hammydudehammydude Member Posts: 3
    its like 2.83 here in lebanon pa
  • p100p100 Member Posts: 1,116
    Premium as high as $ 3.25/gallon at many BP stations. It appears that BP is always the first to raise gas prices and by the largest amount.
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    It looks like gas is following the CDN dollar. As your dollar increases to our dollar, our gas goes up. Could it be you have all the oil you can use and are our biggest oil trading partner. I understand things are booming in your oil provinces. Are the tar sands paying off? I hope so. I would rather buy from a friendly neighbor than someone that would like to see me dead.
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    It appears that BP is always the first to raise gas prices and by the largest amount.

    It is just the opposite in CA. BP/ARCO are the lowest priced stations overall. You need to drill off your coast and bring the prices down. Quick before Fidel sucks the oil right out from under Key West.
  • astegmanastegman Member Posts: 171
    Regular - anywhere from $3.19 to $3.39
    Premium - anywhere from $3.43 to $3.79
    :cry:
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    the stations i usually fill up at are at 3.25x, and 3.19x.
    i filled up this morning for 3.09x x=9.
    maybe it is a coincidence, but a new gas station/convenience store just opened up across the street.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    Paid $2.74 for Hess this evening for 87.

    In WV, MD, PA, OH, and IN, the prices are all higher...generally $2.99 to as much as $3.09 (for 87)! I did fill up in western Ohio along I-70 at a BP (combined with a TA Truck Stop) for $2.84 -- that was the lowest I saw in Ohio.

    On the way back, while in WVA, my low fuel light came on near Charleston, so I was forced to get some gas -- $3.05 at "Go-Mart." Only put in 6+ gallons -- just enough to get me home.
  • rockyleerockylee Member Posts: 14,017
    :sick:

    Rocky
  • KCRamKCRam Member Posts: 3,516
    All gas grades the same as last week, diesel crept up 2 cents, but still 20 cents cheaper than regular unleaded.

    87 - $2.979
    89 - $3.079
    91 - $3.149
    93 - $3.179
    diesel - $2.779

    kcram - Pickups Host
  • mark156mark156 Member Posts: 1,915
    Hey Rocky..... you keep referring to your fuel as "Slop"...what is that?

    Mark156
    2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
  • bottgersbottgers Member Posts: 2,030
    ....any motion to change the way crude/gas is priced? I've heard there may be a movement to take the speculators out of the picture all together and just allow the market to determine the price. Sounds good to me. It seems to me all the speculators do anyway is subject panic into the market and keep the prices falsely high. Every time there's any type of unrest anywhere in the world, speculators panic and drive prices up. They also don't seem to learn anything from thier past. They continue to inject panic into the market even when they know the particular reason they're using for the panic will have absolutely no effect on crude/gas supplies. I am all for completely removing the speculators from the picture. Maybe then gas would come back down to a somewhat reasonable price.
  • rockyleerockylee Member Posts: 14,017
    Mark,

    Slop is a word I borrowed from our good ol' pal Lemko. Tell me if 86' octane isn't slop ???? mid-grade is 88' slop, and most stations have 90' as premium ? 91' however can be found at a few stations and is premium slop in this part of the country. ;)

    So now you have it. Lemko, calls 93' slop and my cars would only dream to sip that. :surprise: Lemko, however can get 94' Ultra in Harrisburg ? I think. :)

    Rocky
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    Maybe the air in TX has so much natural gas that you don't need the higher octane to run good. I got the best mileage on my trip to TX on your diesel down in the Hill Country.

    The Spirit station in town here has 87 unleaded at $3.36 cash $3.46 credit and diesel is $3.16 cash. Is that a TX company? They took over the Chevron that was there for years.

    That was nice in TX and AZ no charge for using credit or debit cards. I think most all gas is nicked in CA for using a credit or debit card. I carry cash just in case. No way I would pay a charge for a debit on my money.
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    The "slop" and "ultra?" joke is getting tired, IMO.

    I personally like iluvmysephia's referring to gasoline as "ghastly." It helps that he doesn't say it in every post.

    Rocky lives on the High Plains, so gas doesn't need as high an octane, since the air is thinner (less dense). The gas-air mixture in the cylinders doesn't get as compressed, so there's less chance of pinging. That's why regular gas there has an octane rating of 86. On my cross-country trip last December, 85 octane was common everywhere we stopped in the high-altitude states of Nevada, Utah, and Colorado.

    Gagrice, are you sure about the credit card thing? When I was in CA last December, there were no signs indicating the credit price was higher. However it was annoying when using a credit card there to have to punch in your zip code at all "pay at the pump" stations. Why?

    Back here (central VA), Hess still has $2.74 for 87.
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