ok well ive done my reasearch on this one and i have applied it wrong to many vehicles and then had to remove it and start over. nothing sticks to this stuff after it dries so reapplication means removal. The stuff is like removing metal but it tares up grinders because it is toupher. Its called SPEEDLINER. with NASA technology it is the only spray in liner i know of that has KEVLAR and it is non-slippery when wet and the color does not fade. However i would not recommend it for delicate cargo because its as touph and only a little bit smoother than concrete with a deep black shiny surface that brings out the color in any truck. smart..dependable...kevlar reinforced...oh yea...real pretty
I got the Rhino for my '00 Ford F250-SD, chosen because of its thickness. Unexpected and nice benefit is that stuff doesn't slide around in back any more. I understand that LineX is thinner and more slippery in comparison. Also, lifetime warranty. If it chips, peels or whatever, they fix it.
Does anyone know of a good shop, in the southwest suburbs preferably, that does a good job? A local body shop told me that they use a brand that starts with a M, but I can't remember the name. It sounds like LineX is the favorite here. Thanks for your help.
I had Linex sprayed in bedliner installed in my '99 Silverado when it was about two weeks old. I researched the different options and discovered that drop in bed liners are actually harmful to your pickup truck's bed, in that they vibrate and rub the paint off underneath the bedliner and that they retain moisture underneath them, making for a bad combination: bare metal in nearly continuous contact with moisture. (I know this because I had a drop-in in my 1996 Toyota Tacoma and it was starting to rust under the liner.) As far as the Rhino liner and others, while they are a great improvement over drop-ins, they are not on par with the Linex brand. The Linex spray in liner while sprayed on thinner than some other brands is tougher and more slip resistant than any I have seen. I also much prefer the homogenous look of the Linex liner as opposed to the runny gloppy look I have seen in the Rhino liners. The thickness is not at issue here, bed protection is.Oh by the way the Linex comes with a lifetime guarantee also, if it ever gouges or tears or otherwise deteriorates they will repair or replace it free. Mine is still just as beatiful as the day it was sprayed in and I have been hauling everything from furniture to old window A/C units in it with no troubles. I seldom have to tie anything down as the texture of the liner makes it nonskid. (I do recommend you tie down light loads with slippery surfaces such as cardboard boxes.) The heavier the load the less likely it will slip.
I have to agree with ronnuke.. Had Line-X sprayed in my 2K Silverado, LB, over the rail for $389. Six months later, and it looks the same. I've had several people ask me if it is factory sprayed. It looks that good! The others are OK, but after a lot of looking, I chose Line-X. Would recommend it.
whats the opinion on puting on some kind of brush on liner from like pep boys , then putting in a dropin ?? I already have an over the rail installed on my tacoma but would like to take it out put on a coat then reinstall..
I recently purchased the SPEEDLINER spray in for my new truck. The cost was $299 +tax. It is advertised as having a higher tear strength and resistant to fading compared to the "other guys" Best of all it has a lifetime warranty. There is also a website for the company who makes the material. Lets review: Higher tear strength, Resists fading, Lower Cost...no question..
Don't know whether you've taken the leap on pre-coating your bed, but I have a suggestion that worked well for me on my '95 Ram.
Prior to installing the under-rail liner and cap, I stopped at a carpet outlet and bought a roll of 3/8-inch CLOSED-CELL foam padding. Cut it to fit and just layed it out under the liner. It worked great... No rust and no scratched paint after 5 years.
A caution, however... Don't try it with "open-cell" padding. It will sop up moisture.
Where in South Subs are you? I"m out in Carol Stream and was just curious. I'm presently looking at buying a 2000 GMC Sierra 4WD and am also considering getting the spray in liner after I purchase it. I was thinking Rhino cause that's the only brand I know. But, now that I hear about linex maybe I'll look into that.
I'm also looking to get running boards on it. But, I guess I need to purchase the truck first...hehe
I like the look of the spray-in liners, but the durability (no bed denting when carrying rocks, etc.) of the drop-in liners. I'm thinking of a spray-in over-the-rail with a drop-in under-the-rail to protect the bed from rocks, scuffing from the drop-in, etc. About half the time a topper would be on the truck (2001 GMC 2500HD). Other than expense, does anyone have any comments?
I have a rhino liner on my gmc sonoma. I like the liner a lot and has many advantages. however, i found there is some drawbacks, for one, when i got the truck new, i decided to get a roll-top, well, i couldn't because i had gotten the over-the-rail treatment. So if you do something like that, you may want to investigate to see if it will hamper your plans. Also, i recently waxed my sonoma, and well, I accidently got wax on the liner. So, if anyone knows how to remove dry wax from a sprayed on liner, help would be nice, thanks.... good luck on you're sierra alaskadude
Have you looked at the Pace Edwards roll top cover. I am having a spray-on liner (Speedliner) put in and am also getting the Pace-Edwards roll top cover. I will fit with the over the rail spray on liners. I know because the same shop in doing both. the Website is www.pace-edwards.com Hope this helps.
I recently bought a used '93 Long Bed GMC C/K 1500 from my neighbor that was purchased from the dealer with an installed bed liner. He had never taken the liner out to look at what was going on underneath. I live in New Hampshire and there's alot of salt used on the roads here so I was very concerned about rust. Much to my surprise when I pulled out the liner there was only minor abrasion damage on the wheel wells and one spot that had some slight pitting due to rust. Most of the bed looked new! The only real negative was that there was a buildup of sand in some of the voids. This probably interfered with drainage (it is an under the rail liner)and could have led to some damage in time. I did what a thrifty New Englander does. I roughed up the surfaces of the abraded areas, applied two coats of Rustoleum rusty metal primer, two coats of flat black Rustoleum and popped the liner back in. I will check it at least every other year for wear though. If I had a new truck I would get a sprayed on product. Just thought others might wonder about the goings on under a bed liner.
Heard that there is a new material that is better than polyurathane (or how ever you spell it) and that this new material is made of "poly-something else". Anyone heard of it?
I believe alaskadude has a great idea with his "dual" protection concept. It will virtually bullet-proof your truck bed. Spray on under a drop-in. If I were to use only one, (which I did) of course the drop in wins. I have never witnessed any real damage incurred under a good drop in. If it rubs off a little paint, it's going to rub off any surface rust that might form too. I take mine out yearly and clean the bed. A couple of little rub spots on the wheel wells is the only evidence that one has been used. Drop a concrete block in the bed with your sprayed on coating and you have a nice sprayed on dent. Cargo moving around? Personally, I think that the smoothness of the drop in bed liner is a definite plus. Ever try to push heavy boxes or anything else into a sprayed in liner bed. It doesn't move. Unloading is the same pain. You can always place a board in the bed indentions or use any of the myriad of products made to keep stuff from moving around. Let's face it, you should tie down everything anyway for safety sake. "Rhino lining" is not going to stop your cargo from becoming lethal missiles in an accident. As far as looks go, spray in liners look great, especially when you can match colors now. Work or play I guess. Just my thoughts.
I had a plastic truck tool box in my bed on top of Rhino, and it trapped moisture, causing mildew that discolored the Rhino. If any moisture can get under the drop it, I'd think this might occur. On the other hand, if you never plan to NOT have a drop in, nobody can see the mildew anyway...
I'm not sure what it is made of, but my parents just had a Permatex product put on their 2000 Sierra, color matched. Looks fine, but I don't think it went on as thick as the Rhino I had.
When I ordered my 2001 Silverado LT I specifically asked for Rhinoliner. Both the salesguy and head guy in their body shop argued me into a drop-in (even though they made less money on the deal). Said they had a lot of customer complaints about sprayed-in, and felt my truck bed would last longer with the drop-in. When I balked because of the drop-in rubbing the paint, they threw in a free pad which goes under the liner.
It depends a lot on the prep an the spray job. I have a Rhino that is great and my brother-in-law had a Rhino liner that is peeling. Workmanship is the key. Got to find place that cares about there workmanship.
are very slippery when wet. Rented a pickup this past weekend for hunting with a drop in "Pendaliner". It was raining outside and I tried to stand up in the bed while loading it up. Practically flew right out the back on my 'keister'. When the truck I ordered gets in, I will have a sprayed in liner installed. Was told by a friend yesterday how his bed is badly rusted under his drop in liner, to some that are nearly all the way through. Just my 2 cents.
There is a solution to use on your rhino liner. Its called Rhino shine paid $12.95 a bottle. havent tried it yet probably saturday ill take and post pics
Some interesting comments. I'm basically debating between a spray-in and just a bed mat to keep things from sliding around. Right now I'm leaning towards the mat and then after the bed gets scratched up bad enough, going for a spray-in.
I am currently defering purchasing a liner. I have just put a cap on bed and no one can see the bed. I plan on putting in a rubber mat to protect the bed somewhat and to keep things from sliding around too much. I'll re-evaluate whether I need a liner in a year or two.
I had one on a PU a while ago, it rubbed the paint off. I had the over the rail version, but I think that eventually the bed would be "ground down" to bare metal. Go with a spray in "liner", I got Linex, but there are may vendors....even a do-it-yourself kit is on the market.
After agonizing for weeks over the pros and cons of getting a drop-in or spray-in liner, I'm now thinking that a Bedrug liner might better suit my generally light duty uses (camping, hauling a dog, trips to Home Depot...). I'm still a bit concerned about durability though and wonder if the Bedrug would be prone to tearing or other problems. Will it hold up to hauling firewood, lumber, rocks? If I'm hauling sand or gravel I would plan on removing the liner or putting in plywood so I could use a shovel.
Also, where have you found the best deals on the Bedrug. I plan to install it myself.
Try the Product Called Herculiner by peak performance.It is a roll on kit and is better than spray on (no over spray)takes about an hour,cost about $100.00.Good product.Call 1-800-477-5847 for advice on this product I think you will be pleased
i am very happy with my linex liner. I took it to Linex of Eastern Ohio and the two (father and son) person team worked on it for approx. 3 hours. So far i love the looks and it is a quality product. If you can stick around and watch then do it. The technology has many applications too. It was a little disheartening to watch them sandpaper the bed to death though!!
I have had a tuff liner (under rail) in my 94 Ranger since new. I have not been able to hurt it in any way! Gravel, wood, lumber, stones, nothing has changed it's look at all. I love the ON stickiness of the surface. Push the boxes to the front and tie them down.
Bedbug. If you have a cap on your truck do not "buy" a bedbug. Just stop by a local carpet place once a week till you find a piece that looks good and is the right size for your truck. My brother in law does this once a year. There is usually plenty of leftovers that the carpet places need to throw out. If his gets dirty or ugly in any way he just gets a new piece.
I have the drop-in Duraliner with a rubber bed mat from fleet farm on the floor, things don't move around, bed mat easliy comes out for cleaning, have had over the rail and under the rail, never had a problem with either. If the bed rust under your liner,the rest of your truck will rust too due to lack of maintenance on your part. Also you have to take in the facts of where one lives,you live by salt water, there's extra care to be given to any truck to prevent it from rusting. With all the money you spend on saving your beds from scratches, your probably better off using it as a truck without any sort of liner and when you get ready to sell, take the money you saved and go to the junk yard, get a new bed off a wrecked truck.
I visited two of the three spray in dealers in my area yesterday (rhino never returned 2 phone calls, so he's out), and was impressed with both. The Duratech was shiny, with uneven bubbles sprayed on. It was thick (1/4 in bed) and fairly flexible. The Duratech guy told me that it has far more NV protection than Line-x. The Line- was a nicer appearing product, more flat and less "gooey" looking, but the Line- guy told me that he would add $100 to the $465 base price to spray on something to keep it from chalking out. So I liked the appearance of the Line, but I don't want to spend extra $$$ every few years to keep it black, in my NEW black I/U. Has anyone used Duratech out there, and does it stay black? Does the Line stay black, or has anyone added the additional $100 spray? Thanks, Bike nut
I am with you about the cleaning with pressure washer. My Line X is appx 3.5 years old and is looking sad. I have pressure washed with straight water and also with some general purpose degreaser from Home Depot and it still looks pretty bad. The degreaser helped a bit on the FLAT surfaces, but the sides and front wall are chalked out.
I ran into the owner of the shop that did mine and all he wanted to do was sell some "state of the art" BS that would solve all my problems. What to do?
If anyone has a proven, successful method, PLEASE HELP US!
Has anyone heard of BullSkin spray in liner. I've seen a sample and it looks pretty good, and seems to be more "rubbery" than the other brands. The problem is I haven't heard any discussion on this brand.
If Chevrolet ever introduces the Pro Etc Composite Box as illustrated in there 2001 truck catalog it might be the solution everyone looking for. Granted it's a Whopping $800.00 option, and you'd have to buy a new truck to go along with the $800.00 box. Compare this to the $400.00 to $600.00 spray in liners and your also getting a box hats 50lbs lighter and you can take a hammer to it (according to the 2001 Chevy truck catalog). I checked on the the status of this as yet available item and it has not been introduced yet, even though it's advertised in Chevy truck brochure. Maybe 2002 will see the introduction. I still wonder if slipping and sliding of material in truck bed will be on a par with rhino or similar spray in liners. Those hoping carts at Home Depot sure won't dent the thing. Love to finally see one. Anyone out there who knows hats up with this elusive Chevy product please respond
I'm trying to find out how the GM bedliner attaches inside a Sportside bed. My dealer doesn't even know. Is there a mechanical fastener, or does it just sit in there?
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Al
They have a dealer locator there. The closest one to the southwest suburbs may actually be the south suburbs in Calumet City.
Gary-
Best of all it has a lifetime warranty.
There is also a website for the company who makes the material.
Lets review:
Higher tear strength, Resists fading, Lower Cost...no question..
Prior to installing the under-rail liner and cap, I stopped at a carpet outlet and bought a roll of 3/8-inch CLOSED-CELL foam padding. Cut it to fit and just layed it out under the liner. It worked great... No rust and no scratched paint after 5 years.
A caution, however... Don't try it with "open-cell" padding. It will sop up moisture.
I'm also looking to get running boards on it. But, I guess I need to purchase the truck first...hehe
Hope this helps.
Read this guy's story. It's the funniest thing I've read since a long time.
Poor guy's story
Steve
If this could be as of use to anyone please email me at
Ryanb0928@aol.com
I dont want it to go to waste.
Ryan
Ryan
I've had both the drop in and spray on (current). I have to agree with you and next time it will be the drop in.
Rich
Ryan
KALW
Also, where have you found the best deals on the Bedrug. I plan to install it myself.
http://realtruck.com//Ordering/OrderBedRug.asp
http://www.rkkustom.com/
http://www.surplusequipment.com/bedrug/order.htm
http://www.netruckcap.com/
Bedbug. If you have a cap on your truck do not "buy" a bedbug. Just stop by a local carpet place once a week till you find a piece that looks good and is the right size for your truck. My brother in law does this once a year. There is usually plenty of leftovers that the carpet places need to throw out. If his gets dirty or ugly in any way he just gets a new piece.
The Line- was a nicer appearing product, more flat and less "gooey" looking, but the Line- guy told me that he would add $100 to the $465 base price to spray on something to keep it from chalking out.
So I liked the appearance of the Line, but I don't want to spend extra $$$ every few years to keep it black, in my NEW black I/U. Has anyone used Duratech out there, and does it stay black?
Does the Line stay black, or has anyone added the additional $100 spray?
Thanks, Bike nut
Rubber bed mat has been great for rocks, snowmobiles, dirtbikes, dirt,...
Easy to remove, cheap, resists denting the bed when front end loaders drop a load of rock, and you can always add a spray on later....
I am with you about the cleaning with pressure washer. My Line X is appx 3.5 years old and is looking sad. I have pressure washed with straight water and also with some general purpose degreaser from Home Depot and it still looks pretty bad. The degreaser helped a bit on the FLAT surfaces, but the sides and front wall are chalked out.
I ran into the owner of the shop that did mine and all he wanted to do was sell some "state of the art" BS that would solve all my problems. What to do?
If anyone has a proven, successful method, PLEASE HELP US!
Chris
Have you heard anything about BullSkin liner?
I'm trying to find out how the GM bedliner attaches inside a Sportside bed. My dealer doesn't even know. Is there a mechanical fastener, or does it just sit in there?