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If you have not received an order number from G.M., it might not be because of constraints of production. Your dealer may tell you that is the reason, just like mine told me. If your dealer does have allocations, you should be able to receive an order number and build date even if G.M. is experiencing shortages and delays. I am told that 2500's and longbeds are shipping, have been shipping, and same for LT's. The constraint, as I understand it, is that they cannot currently meet demand for all, so there are shortages. Those dealers with current allocations (a type of credit a dealer needs to place an order to buy) are the ones supplying their customers. The problem is, dealers who have used their allocation credits, or smaller dealers that didn't have many to start with, will accept deposits anyway. And why not? Of course, they are careful not to divulge whether they do or don't have the allocations. If they don't have them, you'll end up wasting time like I did, while they wait at your expense to get more. The key is whether they give you an order number. No number, get your deposit back because you aren't even in the system. The big dealership here, not where I ordered, is telling me they have trucks with long beds, 2500's, and LT's coming in every week, have been all along, most are spoken for but they get order numbers and build dates for all of them as soon as they are placed because they have the allocation credits. My dealer, on the other hand is maintaining that the constraints are like a "hold" on production. Not so. The dealer without allocations is likely to be the one that offers you the best price, and demands the largest deposit, to keep you strung along. Lastly, the allocations are for light trucks, passenger cars, minivans, suv's but not option packages like LT or long bed. A dealer who sells mostly cars to his clients is not likely to have the most truck allocations in a given area. One final note. Around the Denver area, if you visited every dealer, you'd find a total of only about 100 Silverados/Sierras for sale amongst them all. There are a few 2500's, a few LT's, a few long beds, plenty of 1/2 ton short beds 4x4's, not too many 2wd's. What you need to do Rich, is call a big city, big volume dealer that will help you try to locate one, even if he has to get it from another dealers lot. You just might be luckier than you think!
clark7: Make sure it is not just an advertising fee added to invoice only, not added to MSRP.
Now with the allocation system if a dealer has a bunch of orders waiting he may deal off the lot to get an allocation back to get the orders off his back?
The only dealers I have run into that would not deal were the big dealers??
My build date was Jan 4th.
I don't know where it was shipped from. My dealer makes it sound like he has no control or information on deliveries...
(1SD) SLT Marketing Option Package (Sportside) MSRP is now $2880 (vs $2185). However, the Sportside body ($595) now seems to be included in the package price, so the net is a $100 increase in MSRP.
(R6U) Comfort Group MSRP is now $775 (vs $565). I'm not sure if something has been added to this group, of if this is just a $210 price increase.
(G80) Locking Rear Differential MSRP is now $285 (vs $270)
(C49) Electric Rear Window Defogger MSRP is now $175 (vs $154)
Looks like the total change in MSRP for a Sierra with these options will be $346. It would be useful if Edmunds could do an update to let folks know what the invoice price changes are that go along with these MSRP changes. I'm also curious about whether or not the Silverado prices have seen similar increases.
I have the same problem with the dealer having limited info after a truck leaves the factory.
I spoke to an auto information group today about this and they confirmed that the dealer gets limited info from the transport company. They said that typical deliveries take 10 to 14 days but times do not appear to be typical! My truck supposedly left Canada the Jan. 20 and these people said to give it another week.
My truck was built December 17 and it is still not here???? Relax and check out accessories or something like one of the guys suggested.
My LT was built on the 22 and my truck's ETA is 2/2.
But on the same breath the dealer states that the transport Company won't be considered 'late' until they are 10 days past their ETA.
If your vehicle arrives by rail, the window of time from depot to dealer is no more than 3 days.
Some dealers in congested urban areas will have 'priority', and 'night deliveries', the dealer added: The transport dispatch and drivers prioritize these because, at night, they don't have to deal with the congestion, improving productivity. Plus they can unload at the dealer and go, without the normal time-wasting protocol.
Incidentally, my dealer did waive the $219.65 invoice increase, but not without dramatics. The allocation system may have been on my side this time, as the dealer must get the goods out the door to obtain more from Chevy.
This price increase couldn't have arrived at a worse time for the dealers and those customers patiently waiting for their standing orders: I don't see how the extra revenue (relatively small, in the greater scope of things) can offset the potential ill will Chevy's approach may create. It puts the dealers in an additional bind. (they can either 'eat it' or confront their standing order customers about their increased costs.)
as 4 to 6 months. It all depends on if you have an allocation and if that vehicle has any restrictions.
I'VE HAD NOTHING BUT PLEASANT EXPERIENCES IN BUYING CHEVY TRUCKS!
Two years ago I traded in my 94 S-10 for a Subaru Outback. The Outback was a great car to own BUT it wasn't a truck, and truck was all I ever drove since 1976. I had to get back in. I fell in love with the new Chevy Silverado. I ended up buying exactly what they show in their commercials--the 1500 LT 4x4 z71 light metallic pewter.
I went to two Chevy dealers. One, a family owned business, 9 miles west of my home in a small town where I bought my last pickup. They gave me top notch service and courtesy in the past. The other, a behometh dealer on the freeway I pass every day on my commute. The behometh had a friendly 6'-8" 300 lb Irishman salesman who happened to be married to my oldest daughter's best friend from high school. That small, tentative connection was made.
Both dealers treated me extremely well. Both gave me decent trade-in quotes within dollars of each other. I went with the behometh more for convenience knowing I'd feel guilty to the other with either choice.
I placed the order and it arrived 2 months 5 days later on January 12. The truck was built in Oshawa, Ontario (an source of quality complaints) but came, as far as I can tell 800 miles in with ZERO defects. Commute mileage is hitting 16.7 mpg so far. It handles superbly and the z71 is a smooth ride despite being stiff for off-road. I suppose with the normal ride you would be in heaven, but I don't mind.
I pick up carpoolers and, despite the fact they are over 6'-2" and 200 lbs., they don't complain about the back seat.
Dodge and Ford light duties do not match this Silverado--THE TRUCK. I enjoyed seeing my truck at every commercial break during the X-Files last week.
So don't believe all the negatives you might read in these message topics. Check, deal and test drive for yourself. Make your own decisions. I had to write this for those who can't just to tweak their minds.
There are a lot of variables out there. We really don't know the behind the scenes business of the dealers so what you pay vs. what I pay, who gets allocations and who doesn't will continue to be a mystery to us all! want to know everything...join the "other" side and become a car/truck salesman!!
The Silverado will make the turning radius needed to squeeze into a 9 ft. wide stall for most parking lots with standard 24 ft. driving lanes and 20 ft. (some 19 ft.) long stalls. The Silverado's rear bench seat is practical for adults and you cannot say Ford or Dodge come close.
I do stay out of garages, but that's because my new truck is 6'9" stock. My last one (2X4 SRW) would go pretty much anywhere once I got used to it.
I called about three weeks ago and said I wanted to cancel the order. They tried to find something somewhere I liked, but no go. I called yesterday and said "forget it", credit may VISA account. Again, they were real cool and agreed to it, but did so without even an apology of any sort. Maybe they never had the allocation to use in the first place, I don't know. Wheels.com, in their industry news section, still says the 3/4 tons and the snow plow package have my ordered truck on hold. That hasn't been the case since October, however.
I have a GM credit of over $6,000 I have to use. I'm married to them, I guess. I really like the truck, but I get the feeling I'd rather deal with Bill Gates or Charles Hurwitz than General Motors Corp. I bet there is a reason the complaints outnumber the praises 10-1 in this topic. All I know is I've decided to wait for the Y2K 1 ton models to come out.
Most people seem to think you need a 3/4 ton truck to pull a 5th wheel. How long is your 5th wheel and how much does it weigh loaded and how much tongue weight is in the bed?
I have a '98 1500 Z71 4x4 ext cab with 5.7 engine and 3.73 gears. I am looking to buy a 30' 5th wheel that could weigh 9,000 lbs when fully loaded. Tongue weight would be 1,400 lbs. Or I could buy a 28' pull trailer that would weigh 8,000 lbs loaded with an 850 lb tongue weight.
Both exceed the recommended specs of my 1/2 ton. I could put air bags on the rear axle with overload springs and 10 ply tires to beef things up. Brakes, frame and transmission would then be the only things different from a 3/4 ton truck. Since 90% of all pickups are 1/2 ton, I have to believe many use them beyond their rated capacity.
Axle size, hubs, bearings and rims also are beefier on 3/4 ton trucks.
like it is a real ripoff. I went to the dealer and
was going to buy a New Sierra for $28352, MSRP was
about $31K, so far it seems like a good deal. I said I wanted to put down $11K which would mean
I would need to finance $17352 under Smartbuy.
Here's the numbers he gave me for a 36 mo. Smartbuy at 8.75% rate. Monthly payment of $199
with a final balloon payment of $18456. The
balloon payment was more then what I originally
financed. My question is how can the final balloon
payment be more then originally financed amount?
Sounds like somebody was trying to rip me off. Is
it the dealer or GMAC? Anyway I walked...
The present value of your payments of $199 a month for 36 months at 8.75% total $6,280. When added to your down payment of $11,000 leaves you an unfinanced balance of $11,072 at present value. The future amount at 8.75% due at the end should be $14,382 the way I figure.
Truck is supposed to be here in two weeks and I though I would get some oil....
Filter for 4.8L is AC PF59
With that 34 gallon tank at 225 miles you have probably burned but 15 gallons. 5/8 full would be about right. I'm getting over 16 mpg commuting and that includes typically sitting about 5 minutes every day at a metered on ramp to the freeway.
I don't think people appreciate how many improvements Chevy put into these Silverado trucks. They've been knocked heavily for their bland, evolutionary design by press and critics and that seems to disguise the advances under the skin.
Also, I did two months of reading and studying on these new trucks before I ordered. Ford was in the running for a long time, but horsepower verses MPG won out. Also I think the Silverado is more in line with what a pickup is going to look like for the next few years.
I think you will find out that if you order, your going to have to wait for a while. Looks like 1/2 tons are a 2 to 3 month wait. The dealer here in town won't even take an order for a 3/4 right now. The wait is 6 to 8 months.