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I personally like to do that when possible.
Right, well I'm not willing to spend extra time negotiating an EW with them when I know they won't go less than the online dealer. I'm certainly not going to pay more just to keep the money local. I'd rather give the difference to a local charity---probably would do more good there.
In addition, I'd rather support the online sellers of Honda Care. They're the ones that give Honda drivers the possibility of even buying the contract at a good rate. Without them, the dealers could and would charge sky-high prices.
The dealer is making enough money off of the car sale itself. In addition, if you're a good buyer, you're goal is to leave as little money on the table as possible---not feed the local economy.
I don't expect them to sell for less than the On-Line dealer. Just match them.
As far as "Extra time" is concerned. When I told the finance man I would need to check out prices on the EW, he immediately dropped his price to about what the "On-Line" dealers charge. He did the same on the interest rate.
Probably a lot less time involved there than dealing on the internet.
Also, when I purchased a large number of accessories for our new Ridgeline, I got the prices "On-Line" and asked the dealer parts guy to match them. He did!
Kip
Well, I didn't have a dealer who came down to the price. Neither did a number of people who posted in this forum, including post #3281 who you were talking to a few days ago.
If you ask and they agree to the price, that's fine. But I'm not going to haggle with the finance guy, when I know I can get the price lower online.
There are also people that got close to or better than internet prices from their local dealer.
>"But I'm not going to haggle with the finance guy, when I know I can get the price lower online."
I don't haggle either.
When I've done my homework, there is "0" (ZERO) haggle involved. He gives me his price. I give him mine. He will either do the deal and make a couple hundred dollars, or he won't. No Haggle! Same thing with the finance rates.
When we walk into the dealers store, the only haggling should be concerning the trade-in vehicle. (We can eliminate this one by selling the car out right.)
We should already have the price of their car from the internet manager. We should also know the best price available for the EW.
They will always try to steal the trade. I tell them what it is worth (Trade-in value) and show documentation on how I got that number. If my number is reasonable for the condition of my car, they realize I'm serious and firm on my price they will likely try to do the deal, . The only haggling is on their part. Sometimes it is plain downright entertaining. I don't play the "meet in the middle" game. :shades:
Kip
Good choice on vehicles.
Which dealer did you buy from? Did you buy the EW on line?
Kip
I did not take it because I do not generally believe in extended warranties. But after reading this forum, if I could get a HC warranty with 8 Yrs/100k with $0 deductable for around $1250, that might make sense.
Does Honda Care warranty cover diagnostics that may result in a problem not being covered under warranty? or do I wind up paying for labor if the issue turns out not to be covered under warranty
Can anyone explain what the "Gotchas" are for these warranties?
Regards,
I can't really recall anyone who said they actually got a better price than an internet dealer, though I might have forgotten an instance. "Close to" however, means that you'd be paying more than the internet dealer. Something I would never do.
When I purchase my next Honda Care, I'll get quotes from the online dealers (as prices are no longer posted straight onto the web,) and I'll reward the one who is lowest with my business.
Our opinions differ in that I don't feel a need to give the local dealer an option to match. As I said earlier, I appreciate the offers extended by the online dealers, I appreciate how Saccucci Honda stood up to Honda to allow them to continue to sell Honda Care's at good prices to people around the country. And I want to do what I can to reward that.
Good job! :shades:
That seems to be a bit lower than Saccucci's "on-line" price!
>" I really do not know all details on what EW covers but for price paid...I can't go wrong. "
You got that right! For me, there would have been some entertainment and personal satisfaction factored in there.
I gotta remember that tactic! In effect the guy didn't have a clue as to what your "wife" or a friend or whomever is on the other end of the phone may or may not know.
Also, congratulations to post 3255 and Post 3288 for your deals.
Kip
No it doesn't. I just got a quote from Saccucci this morning on a Crosstour Honda Care for 8 years, 120K and it was $1,080. They overpaid by $170.
The dealer that they bought it from, used one of the oldest tricks in the books, saying something was $50 over cost when the cost is really much lower. The buyer feels like he got one over on the dealer with his phone call trick. Meanwhile the dealer is still laughing on his way to the bank.
Also, congratulations to post 3255 and Post 3288 for your deals.
Why would you congratulate them?
Post 3255 got an HC on a Pilot, 8 year, 100K for $1,290. Online price was $1,190. They overpaid by $100.
Post 3288 got an HC on an Odyssey, 8 year, 100K for $1,350. Online price was $1,190. They overpaid by $160.
You seem to have become an advocate for buying from the local dealers. However, the people that you point to who went that route are spending more money and getting nothing extra in return.
I'll respond as that was me. First off, $160 is worth my time. By that I mean the time involved in me running around town asking the other dealers to beat the current one I went with. My time is extremely valuable and worth a lot and paying $160 to save wasted gas, time, headache and hassle is a steal. To me the savings isn't worth the effort. But if it is to you, good for you. And before you berate me for not trying to find it cheaper on-line the same argument applies. $160 is piddly and being able to knock it out at the time of sale is worthwhile to me. You see, I don't have anything tangible but I did get something in return.
Really?
From post 3281: "I just placed my order for a HCEW,,8/120k,$0 deductible for $1295 with Saccucci and I live in Georgia."
Poster 3281 just purchased from Saccucci for considerably more than, you say, you were quoted from the same people. Are you suggesting that Saccucci scamed 3281? :confuse:
Poster 3292 paid $45 less locally than Poster 3281 paid Saccucci. Yet you say 3292 over paid by $170. Then you must also be saying that 3281 overpaid Saccucci by $235.
>"Why would you congratulate them? "
Because I'm happy for them! I think they all got fair deals,.
I suspect EW pricing will vary, depending on the vehicle and how it is equipped.
FWIW, I also suspect that no one will be able to find the "DEALS" that you do.
>"You seem to have become an advocate for buying from the local dealers"
ABSOLUTELY, when the prices are as close as the posts under discussion.
And, you seem to be an advocate for supporting the "on-line" folks. GOOD FOR YOU. Next time you need service, take your vehicle to them.
Kip
Kip
Bob was super nice on the phone. I plan on buying my Civic this afternoon and buying the warranty tomorrow after I have the car.
Oh yea, another thing I like about Bob is that he takes information and payment over the phone instead of making you fill out forms online. I like the personal contact but that's just me.
By the way, I'm at $19,900 for a Civic EX-L and feel pretty good about it. I'm going after another couple hundred this after noon. Wish me luck.
Absolutely not! I'm stating that poster 3281 didn't state what kind of vehicle that he is buying the Honda Care for. Post 3295 clearly stated that he was purchasing a Honda Care Crosstour for $1,250. The online quote on that from Saccucci is $1,080. The "negotiating" technique that you complimented led to the person paying $170 more to the dealer than they needed to. Those are the facts. You can contact Saccucci yourself to verify the information.
It's likely that poster 3281 was purchasing a HC for either a Pilot or an Odyssey as $1,295 is the online price for a 8 year 120K price for those vehicles.
Poster 3292 paid $45 less locally than Poster 3281 paid Saccucci. Yet you say 3292 over paid by $170. Then you must also be saying that 3281 overpaid Saccucci by $235.
Again, your attention to detail is lacking. HC pricing varies depending on the model of vehicle that you buy. Instead of doing the actual research, you're trying to compare pricing for two different vehicles as though they are the same when they're not.
I suspect EW pricing will vary, depending on the vehicle and how it is equipped.
This is another incorrect statement. HC pricing does not vary based on the trim level of the vehicle or how it is equipped. It only differs based upon the model. That's what makes an HC purchase a really good buy if you purchase it on a vehicle that is one of the upper trim levels.
FWIW, I also suspect that no one will be able to find the "DEALS" that you do.
Please, don't suggest that I post inaccurate information. Anybody can find those prices by going to some of the sites that I have mentioned earlier like Saccucci or Hyannis. If you doubt the validity, then go to the sites yourself and ask for quotes.
I'm trying to assist people in getting the best pricing on Honda Care. If they take my advice, they can do that. If people want to follow your suggestion and pay more money to their local dealers, they are free to do that too. It's their money.
But if you make future statements that local deals were better than the online pricing, when in fact they are not, I will continue to correct that information.
Hey Guys, let's let it go, okay? You both value different aspects of the HCEW and the online availability of the product for pricing or purchasing. Both of you are right with respect to your own views, and you have stated them many times back and forth. This forum is great for first time buyers/inquirers, but if they have to filter through a pissing fight over two valid points then it detracts from the valuable information posted here. Same could be said for the cheerleading, though I appreciate congratulating one another.
Curry Honda in MA is one that I have found. This one is mentioned here, who are the others and what are your experiences???
A list of some of them can be found in post 3253.
As for experiences, they just process your payment and the paperwork comes from the same corporate office as it would if you bought it at your local dealer. After that, you can use it at any Honda dealer in the country.
Saccucci Honda - they are the ones fighting Honda re: internet sales of HC EWs. Please check their price and consider purchasing from them. I had a flawless experience with them. I needed to ask some questions, called them, and they set me right at ease.
http://www.saccuccihondacare.com/
You can also check out Bernardi
http://www.bernardiservicecontracts.com/
.
Good luck.
Bob at Hyannis Honda said they sell them cheap online to make money on an incentive program through Honda. He said they get checks periodically from Honda based on there total sales of waranties.
Oh yea, I was going to pay cash but ended up financing half for 2.9%. At that rate why not right.
BUT, I just tried this and it did not work. I emailed Saccucci for help and received a email saying they have no record of this and there second reply to my question said they would look into it, but its has been over five days now with no reply.
So I can’t recommend Saccucci anymore. Yes the deal on the warranty worked with no problems, but trying to use the code they gave me and to try to give them more of money to support them as fallen on deaf ears.
Please do provide your own personal experience! Thanks.
I would be surprised if Saccucci doesn't monitor this website. I too have a coupon for $25 that I haven't used from them, so I am interested in how this works out. Please keep the forum posted on your results regarding this issue.
Thanks.
A few months later I did some research online and ended up purchasing an 8 year, 120,000 mile warranty from Bernardi Honda for around $ 1000 minus a 30.00 gift card to Bernardi parts and accessories.
I wasn't intending to purchase an extended warranty at all because, after all, it's a Honda but I ended up purchasing one about a month before Honda forbid dealers from selling Honda Care online.
All in all, It was a quick and easy transaction.
No bias. It's just a presentation of factual information of specific pricing from specific dealers which tend to be lower than other dealers.
You said you made a purchase. Why not share the specifics so that others could get a good deal like you presumably did? Who did you buy from and what price did you get?
You're throwing out some generalized innuendos that don't add anything to this discussion. You're trying to cast some sort of suspicion without any facts.
If you had a different experience feel free to share it. Multiple people have stated they had good experiences in purchasing from dealers mentioned in this forum. And they have stated this over a period of YEARS. I know because I have been posting here that long. Prior to that I was a reader who learned how to get a good deal from others who posted before me.
I simply give good advice for people who want to save money on Honda Care. Don't suggest any dishonesty or deception on my part or on certified Honda dealers' parts who sell Honda Care. You have zero evidence of that.
No record? Did you receive the code by email? If so, you should just be able to forward the email back to them? Find out who to forward your email to by calling the number listed on their website:
http://www.saccuccihondacare.com/contact_us.php
It should be simple for them to sort out.
I agree! Thanks for the reality check.
I finished my part of the "Discussion" with my post 3298.
>" Same could be said for the cheerleading, though I appreciate congratulating one another."
Me too!, even though the outcome may or may not have been the same as mine.
Thanks again,
Kip
No. You should check out a sample contract to review the coverage.
http://www.hyannishondacare.com/contract.php
Also, the Honda Care includes roadside assistance from the time you buy it, including during the time period that the standard warranty is still in effect.
Happy hunting
Congratulations! Good job.
Civics are truly fun cars to drive, get great fuel mileage if you do your part, and seem to last forever. With the HCEW you will have piece of mind. :shades:
Kip
I'm assuming from your nickname that you're located in California. If so, a lot of online dealers won't sell to California. At last I checked this one does:
http://www.curryhondacare.com/
You can get a quote from them.
I'd rather buy it from the dealer from whom I'm buying the car, but I wanted a basis upon which to negotiate.
Oh, in that case, you can check out:
http://www.saccuccihondacare.com/
or
http://www.hyannishondacare.com/
They should have the best pricing.
I'm with you. I'd rather do business at one place as a package deal.
I'm thinking it helps to keep the dealer in business where I might need him, and the money stays local.
The "online" dealer links above can give you prices you can use for your basis, as you negotiate with your dealer.
Armed with "On Line" prices you have options when dealing with your finance man. Two come to mind:
1- Tell him you can buy the EW from "On Line" folks at a particular price or you can buy from him at the same price. It is his call.
2- Have some fun and offer a price far below, as he offered far above.
Example: Your research may say you can get it for $1100 on line. He tries to sell it to you for $2200, which is robbery, and he knows it. You counter offer (look serious) at say $300. Now it is his job to get you up to a realistic price. Keep in mind he probably knows what you can do "on line", although he won't tell you.
This type negotiating is also helpful with financing, the true value of your trade, and the purchasing price of the new car. Just know all your numbers before you drive onto the lot. If the dealer "thinks" he knows up front that you are planning to do "ALL" business through him, he feels he has lots of opportunity to take your money.
I like to lead off with something like, "Gosh I haven't gotten a new car in years, not sure I can do this. I know what I need for my trade, but I don't know what financing cost are anymore, or the cost of EW, or if the window sticker is Etched in stone."
Then the fun begins! Up front, They might give you your price for your trade, knowing they will make up for it with the other transactions. Keep in mind that usually the "Car" dealings are done on the showroom floor. Once you are satisfied with that, the deal is done, they won't change their minds. . Then you go to the finance man in his office, for EW, financing, and some of the add on accessories. Don't discuss any of "His" stuff on the show room floor. Let them continue to think he is going to rip you a new one! :surprise:
Good luck,
Kip
If I had a chance to do this over again I would buy directly from the online dealer.If not for a few of these dealers providing real competion for your local dealer no one would be able to get more than a small discount or no discount on Honda Care.
I regret rewarding the dealer that tried to gouge me for full list and not rewarding a dealer that offered the best price upfront with no hassle.
His cost was actually much less than $1,200. You can get a Honda Care for a Pilot online, 5 year, 100K, for $750.
jwm40517 wrote: If I had a chance to do this over again I would buy directly from the online dealer.If not for a few of these dealers providing real competion for your local dealer no one would be able to get more than a small discount or no discount on Honda Care.
I totally agree!
Are you sure it is rust? Can you wipe it off with a shop towel or anything? Rust is usually developed inside the muffler first. :confuse:
I had bought an Acura Care warranty through another online dealer awhile back and it was also a good simple transaction. Cannot complain about most of these online Honda dealers. They offer a good price and fast transaction. They probably make their money on mass quantity so that's why they offer such good prices.
My husband and I purchased a honda crv 2010 last december, and many of the parts are rusted, including the brakes and rotors. Dealor has agreed to replace brakes, but not all the other rusted parts. You should have your car checked thoroughly by an independent mechanic for rust. I have heard from at least 2 other 2010 Honda owners with the same problem.