Yes, the extended maintenance is what i meant. I do remember it being much cheaper just a few years ago. Then, it seemed like a screaming deal. Now, it might be something to pass on if i've just had inspection 2 and brakes done.... I'll just see how it goes.
I did purchase the wheel/tire insurance as well as 4 years of paintless dent repair. Based on my record with the e36, i am a ding magnet, and the doors of the e90 can only exacerbate that.
If someone offered me $4000 for my 328i i'd take it in a second. But it's got 153K miles, ratty/torn seats, ~20 door dings, several rust spots, and someone keyed it recently.
I've been looking into the following: 2009 328xi with automatic, heated front seats, premium package, navigation, iPod, satellite radio and metallic paint.
I've gotten quotes from the two local dealers (VOB & Passport in Maryland) and they are $40,995 and $40,790, respectively.
Does this sound fair or is this there a lot more room to negotiate? As of yet I've simply asked for the quote, no real haggling. Am I missing any offers/incentives as well (this will be cash purchase, not financed or leased)?
-2009 BMW 328i (Base Model) -Alpine White -Tan leather (not leatherette) -Demo Vehicle with 7500 miles on it.
Online the price of the vehicle was $32,991 (which I would assume is sticker price), but when I was "quoted" in store I was given $36,745.00 (Vehicle price) - 3,754.00 (Preferred customer discount) $32,991.00 (Selling price) I asked if this would be the lowest price I could get on the car and they were not willing to budge from the $32,991 stating that it was already deeply discounted. It qualifies for the new car rate of 1.9% since it technically hasn't been "owned" Since I was open to both leasing or purchasing I priced both options. -Leased with 1500 down and 36 mths at $598/mth -Purchase with 1500 down and 60 mths at $589/mth
I have a feeling this is not the best deal I can get on this particular car, since the "preferred customer discount" was in place before I even stepped in the door, meaning the vehicle price=MSRP and selling price is well just that the "selling price/sticker price" Any suggestions? Comments? Thanks in advance. I would like purchase or lease this vehicle by the end of the week.
This sounds about right - however, since the 335d does not qualify for the 1.9% financing, you could try to wiggle out another 1K. Please note that the discount on the diesel X5 is much more (perhaps 8K).
Yeah this is my first BMW and I just feel like i'm getting a lot of BS back and forth I've never leased before and I've never put any down-payment on a car and have been more than satisfied with my final payment on *new* purchases. Would you know what I should be expecting to pay monthly then? I want to buy or lease a 2009 328i base model.
read up about leases and bmw money factor. the more knowledge you have the better you will feel. i didn't know much about leases either until i thought about leasing a car.
I'm looking for a 335i that is hard loaded with Prem, Sport, & Nav. Can someone give me some ballpark suggestions on what kind markup dealers put in their CPO prices. I'm seeing a lot of 2007 335i sedans in the $35k to $37k range which is inline with the Edmunds prices, however I know there must be some room for negotiating so I was curious what others would suggest I make my beginning offers at.
I did not think CPO'd cars had that much wiggle room. What is your recomendation for a 2006 cpo 330ci convertable -20200 miles -sport package -leather -new sport tires -new rain sensing windshield dealer is asking 32,900
I don't know how much wiggle room the CPO cars have. I think the selling dealer has to put the money into the car to get it up to CPO standards + the cost of the CPO warranty. But then again, it is a used car and dealers make lots of money on used cars.
Now might not be the best time to buy a convertible depending where you are. You never know though, go into the dealer close to the end of the month & make an out the door offer of $28K + Tax. Maybe you'll be driving home with the top down. Keep us posted.
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I don't think you can combine the 1840 xdrive and 1260 auto transmission incentive. on the xdrive it doesn't offer the 1260 if you pick auto trans. correct me if I am wrong...
Alrighty ladies and gents. We are close to buying a new BMW -- went to the dealer today and was offered $43,659 for a 2009 328i coupe w/ the following options:
MET Metallic Paint $550 ZPP Premium Package $3,350 LC Dakota Leather $1,450 ZSP Sport Package $1,450 205 6-Speed STEPTRONIC $1,325 322 Comfort Access System $500 494 Heated Front Seats $500 6FL iPod and USB Adapter $400 2XA Sport Steering Wheel w/Paddle Shifters $100 4AS Gray Poplar Wood Trim $0
When I went for the whole 10% off the MSRP trick the salesman looked at me like I was from Jupiter! Is this the right ROT (rule of thumb)? What should we be paying here? The MSRP was $45450. There is also a compreable 2008 model w/ 1700 miles on it for $35300. Which way do I go?
that deal is worse than every bmw dealer in socal who gave me an INITIAL internet quote. Most of them ranged from 2500-2900 off of msrp for a similarly optioned car.
bmw has 7% invoice.
if there is a 2008 with similar options and it is nearly 8k cheaper than what you can buy the new one for and it has less than two months of mileage-go that route. but only you can be happy with your purchase.
email other dealers in a five hour radius of you to get more offers. try some socal ones too so you can get a feel for what they are offering.
There are two versions of the 6sp (ZF) steptronic used by BMW in their 3 series. The one they have been using in the 328's can only shift one gear at a time, and it takes a little time for each gear. It's particularly bad on the AWD models. To test it, take the car up to 45 mph or so in "D" let it settle into 6th, get on the brakes hard (like a panic stop) to get to 10 mph or less, then immediately mash the throttle. You may find the car will take an unacceptably long time to get down into 1st or 2nd, where it can accelerate briskly. I had a 2007 328xi, and I couldn't get it to downshift quickly in this circumstance by shifting manually or any other way. If you never foresee a problem where you'd brake hard, then need to get out of the way quickly, this won't matter to you. The version BMW uses in the 335 models can go from any gear to any other, so it doesn't have this problem. BMW had planned to start using the better transmission in all their 3 series, so the one you're looking at may have the better one. Per the rest of the car, very nice equipment package, solid car, not a bad price. I had no complaints about mine except the steptronic.
Hi guys, I already signed a deal. But I would like to be comfortable. MSRP 42845 Cost Capital price on the invoice is 38700.
I paid net out of my pocket $4,524 includes everything. tax, 1st month, last month, registration, licence, everything, cost reduction (down payment) 2500 Then, $378/mo. for 36months.
2009 328i coupe, sport package+heated seats+Ipod+6speed_steptronic
Sticker prices at the dealer are 36-39K but how much room for negotiations do I have? 2010s are right around the corner. I want the 2009. Would there be more room to negotiate if I waited a while longer? How long? How much of a difference?
Have you leased before? Put as little "down" or upfront as possible. Roll the taxes into the payment & take the $2500 and roll it into your payment. If your car gets stolen or totalled at any point during your lease, that money is gone & you will never see it again.
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There's another vehicle we were looking at crosstown... The offer is 2009 328i coupe 6-Speed STEPTRONIC Automatic Transmission Sports Steering Wheel Heated Front Seats iPod and USB Adapter Sport Package Leatherete for $37900
Nothing you can do now. ENJOY your beautiful car! We had a 328i (X drive coupe) as a loaner car once and I was very impressed with the handling, so that car must be wonderful to drive with RWD & the Sports Package! Have fun!
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Isn't leather included in the premium package and the sport steering wheel in the sport package? By my reckoning that's $1550 you're erroneously adding to MSRP. Good luck.
I just added the options using edmunds TMV calculator? So, I don't really know for sure. What about the new option we're looking at: check 12 aug post?
I am stationed overseas and just purchased a 2010 BMW 328xi this afternoon--I will pick it up in November. Here are the details:
2010 BMW 328xi $33,400 Montego Blue $550 6 speed manual Gray Dakota Leather N/C--ZVP Heathed front seats N/C-ZVP Ipod/USB interface N/C-ZVP Comfort Access $500 Navigation $2100 Sport Package $850 Power Front Seats $995 BMW Assist w/ Bluetooth $750 Transport to Selling Dealer $750 --------------------------------------------------- Total: $39,895 OTD---also tax free!! I am glad I waited to buy a 2010...the value package is a good deal and the base price of the car dropped $750 (as moonroof is no longer standard)
hi guys, can you help me with this, I actually have two questions. I am looking at a 3 yr 10k/year lease on 328i xdrive that has been used a test-drive model(has about 400 odd miles). The first question involves the lease sheet. The msrp is 42,450, and below that on the sheet I see a selling price of 37,770. However the figure for total capitalized cost is 39,388.8. Doing out the math, I can tell the 39k number is the one being used in the lease math. Shouldn't these numbers be the same?
Second question is does this still seem like a deal? After the 39,388 theres a 1k cap reduction(must be bmw lease cash?) so I end up putting $4,400 down(additional 2k cap reduction on my part) at signing and paying 440 a month(all Ny state taxes included in the upfront payment ) Despite the mismatch between selling price/msrp i believe it's not a bad deal, but shouldn't the two numbers be the same? Thanks guys.
I'm got a quote for a 335i Convertible and would like to know if its a good deal. The dealer has refused to let me take home the MF (but I think it was like .00275) or the actual price (though its somewhere around $58,500). I new to leasing and I'm confused by the leasing tables I've reviewed, because they appear to say that this quote is way too high, but I'm not confident enough in my calculations to knwo for sure. Any help is much appreciated.
The dealer can tell you what's included in the CAP cost, but for starters, there will most certainly be an acquistion fee. BMWFS charges $725, but the dealer can mark it up to $925 (and most do) for extra profit.
The other $600-$800, you'll just have to ask the dealer.
I've been looking into the following: 2009 328xi with automatic, heated front seats, premium package, navigation, iPod, satellite radio and metallic paint.
I've gotten quotes from the two local dealers (VOB & Passport in Maryland) and they are $40,995 and $40,790, respectively.
Does this sound fair or is this there a lot more room to negotiate? As of yet I've simply asked for the quote, no real haggling. Am I missing any offers/incentives as well (this will be cash purchase, not financed or leased)?
335i, jet black/saddle brown, premium, sport, nav, steptronic auto trans, sport wheel w paddles, anti theft, comfort access, heated front seats, satellite w 1 yr, HD radio, ipod & usb:
MSRP: $51,845 SALES PRICE: $46,500 State and Local Taxes 6.25%: $2,906.25 Dealers Inventory Tax: $117.41 Title, Reg Fee & Inspection: $59.75 License, License Transfer: $70.80 Doc Fee: $50.00 Drive Out Total: $49,704.21
Financed with 1.9% APR....No money down, first payment due Sep 15th.
I am car shopping and did not think I could swing it to get a new 328ix, but after being offered the following it might be feasible for me and I am wondering what your thoughts are:
2009 328ix new MSRP $39,245 Selling price $38,010 Only options are automatic, power seat, heated front seats BMW Select deal at 1.9% rate, with $1500 out of pocket = $449 mo. for 60 months Balloon payment at end of term is $13,343
I know there must be a downside to this select program that I am not seeing, but when I do a Kelly Blue Book look up for a used 2009 328ix with 60K miles,(I drive about 11-12K miles per year) in good condition(not the best) it gives me a trade in value of $23,775.(higher of course if I wanted to sell privately) So would that mean after 5 years I would buy the car for $13,343, then if I wished could trade in for about 23K and I would realize the difference of about 10K in equity? Or in 5 years would this 2009 be dramatically less than a current 2009 with 60K miles on it?
Firstly, the MSRP you listed for the 328xi is high--should be closer to $38,400 bog standard without any fees, metallic paint, anything. Secondly, I'm not sure I follow your reasoning in regards to trading in the car in 5 years time. There is no way that driving 60K miles in 12 months is the equivalent of a 5 year old car with same mileage. Why? Because the car is five years old and will most likely be far out of date in styling, technology, etc. Granted that in both scenarios they will be out of warranty ( mileage in the first example...age in the second). With the car and options you listed, you would be silly to expect ~$23,000 privately....let alone a trade in--even with the high residual value that BMWs carry. I think $16-18K may be doable in 5 years, but depends on the shape of the car. If you want more later you may want to think about adding a couple more desirable options. Just do a search for 2004 BMW 3 series with around 60K miles and for an idea of how they depreciated compared to their original price. Hope this helps.
I think it is a good deal. And better than mine. Mine is;
2009 328i coupe, sport package+heated seats+Ipod+6speed_steptronic MSRP 42845 Cost Capital price on the invoice is 38700. I paid net out of my pocket $4,524 includes everything. tax, 1st month, last month, registration, licence, everything, cost reduction (down payment) 2500 Then, $378/mo. for 36months.
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I did purchase the wheel/tire insurance as well as 4 years of paintless dent repair. Based on my record with the e36, i am a ding magnet, and the doors of the e90 can only exacerbate that.
If someone offered me $4000 for my 328i i'd take it in a second. But it's got 153K miles, ratty/torn seats, ~20 door dings, several rust spots, and someone keyed it recently.
2009 328xi with automatic, heated front seats, premium package, navigation, iPod, satellite radio and metallic paint.
I've gotten quotes from the two local dealers (VOB & Passport in Maryland) and they are $40,995 and $40,790, respectively.
Does this sound fair or is this there a lot more room to negotiate? As of yet I've simply asked for the quote, no real haggling. Am I missing any offers/incentives as well (this will be cash purchase, not financed or leased)?
Any advice would be very much appreciated!
-2009 BMW 328i (Base Model)
-Alpine White
-Tan leather (not leatherette)
-Demo Vehicle with 7500 miles on it.
Online the price of the vehicle was $32,991 (which I would assume is sticker price), but when I was "quoted" in store I was given
$36,745.00 (Vehicle price)
- 3,754.00 (Preferred customer discount)
$32,991.00 (Selling price)
I asked if this would be the lowest price I could get on the car and they were not willing to budge from the $32,991 stating that it was already deeply discounted.
It qualifies for the new car rate of 1.9% since it technically hasn't been "owned"
Since I was open to both leasing or purchasing I priced both options.
-Leased with 1500 down and 36 mths at $598/mth
-Purchase with 1500 down and 60 mths at $589/mth
I have a feeling this is not the best deal I can get on this particular car, since the "preferred customer discount" was in place before I even stepped in the door, meaning the vehicle price=MSRP and selling price is well just that the "selling price/sticker price"
Any suggestions? Comments? Thanks in advance. I would like purchase or lease this vehicle by the end of the week.
total out of pocket at signing including all taxes and fees $3500
monthly payment $420
36 months, 10K miles per year
7500 miles is a lot.
The initial price they gave you 36,745, is MSRP.
The selling price ($32,991.00) sounds awfully high to me, for a demo.
that's a terrible lease price!
32,991.00 (Selling price)
the selling price on my car was 43.4 and it's msrp was 48.3. payments are 583 a month with 1500 down
I want to buy or lease a 2009 328i base model.
read up about leases and bmw money factor. the more knowledge you have the better you will feel. i didn't know much about leases either until i thought about leasing a car.
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What is your recomendation for a 2006 cpo 330ci convertable
-20200 miles
-sport package
-leather
-new sport tires
-new rain sensing windshield
dealer is asking 32,900
Now might not be the best time to buy a convertible depending where you are. You never know though, go into the dealer close to the end of the month & make an out the door offer of $28K + Tax. Maybe you'll be driving home with the top down. Keep us posted.
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on the xdrive it doesn't offer the 1260 if you pick auto trans. correct me if I am wrong...
MET Metallic Paint $550
ZPP Premium Package $3,350
LC Dakota Leather $1,450
ZSP Sport Package $1,450
205 6-Speed STEPTRONIC $1,325
322 Comfort Access System $500
494 Heated Front Seats $500
6FL iPod and USB Adapter $400
2XA Sport Steering Wheel w/Paddle Shifters $100
4AS Gray Poplar Wood Trim $0
When I went for the whole 10% off the MSRP trick the salesman looked at me like I was from Jupiter! Is this the right ROT (rule of thumb)? What should we be paying here? The MSRP was $45450. There is also a compreable 2008 model w/ 1700 miles on it for $35300. Which way do I go?
bmw has 7% invoice.
if there is a 2008 with similar options and it is nearly 8k cheaper than what you can buy the new one for and it has less than two months of mileage-go that route. but only you can be happy with your purchase.
email other dealers in a five hour radius of you to get more offers. try some socal ones too so you can get a feel for what they are offering.
The version BMW uses in the 335 models can go from any gear to any other, so it doesn't have this problem. BMW had planned to start using the better transmission in all their 3 series, so the one you're looking at may have the better one.
Per the rest of the car, very nice equipment package, solid car, not a bad price. I had no complaints about mine except the steptronic.
new '09 328ix sedan with metallic paint, leatherette, steptronic, cold weather, ipod, power seats, bmw assist bluetooth
total out of pocket at signing including all taxes and fees $3500
monthly payment $420
36 months, 10K miles per year
Premium
Sport
Navigation
Logic 7
Automatic
32,000 miles
Dealer asking price was $36,000 and I was able to negotiate $31,500 and the car comes with the 6yr/100k CPO warranty.
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MSRP 42845
Cost Capital price on the invoice is 38700.
I paid net out of my pocket $4,524 includes everything. tax, 1st month, last month, registration, licence, everything, cost reduction (down payment) 2500
Then, $378/mo. for 36months.
2009 328i coupe, sport package+heated seats+Ipod+6speed_steptronic
IS THIS A GOOD DEAL?
thanks everyone!
Should I feel comfortable?
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6-Speed STEPTRONIC Automatic Transmission
Sports Steering Wheel
Heated Front Seats
iPod and USB Adapter
Sport Package
Leatherete
for $37900
MSRP $41000
Car doesnt have any other options. Sport pack/heated and memory seats, steptronic, ipod. thats it !
Do you think it is a good deal?
Do I have right to get the down payment back and apply it to the payments now? Any chance? Do i have right to do that?
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-jaj
2010 BMW 328xi $33,400
Montego Blue $550
6 speed manual
Gray Dakota Leather N/C--ZVP
Heathed front seats N/C-ZVP
Ipod/USB interface N/C-ZVP
Comfort Access $500
Navigation $2100
Sport Package $850
Power Front Seats $995
BMW Assist w/ Bluetooth $750
Transport to Selling Dealer $750
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Total: $39,895 OTD---also tax free!!
I am glad I waited to buy a 2010...the value package is a good deal and the base price of the car dropped $750 (as moonroof is no longer standard)
Second question is does this still seem like a deal? After the 39,388 theres a 1k cap reduction(must be bmw lease cash?) so I end up putting $4,400 down(additional 2k cap reduction on my part) at signing and paying 440 a month(all Ny state taxes included in the upfront payment ) Despite the mismatch between selling price/msrp i believe it's not a bad deal, but shouldn't the two numbers be the same? Thanks guys.
MSRP: $60500
Monthly: $665
Down: $5,000
36 months lease
Options include:
Nav
Sport Package with 19'
Comfort
Premium Package
Heated Seats
I Pod
Smart Phone Int.
The other $600-$800, you'll just have to ask the dealer.
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2009 328xi with automatic, heated front seats, premium package, navigation, iPod, satellite radio and metallic paint.
I've gotten quotes from the two local dealers (VOB & Passport in Maryland) and they are $40,995 and $40,790, respectively.
Does this sound fair or is this there a lot more room to negotiate? As of yet I've simply asked for the quote, no real haggling. Am I missing any offers/incentives as well (this will be cash purchase, not financed or leased)?
Any advice would be very much appreciated!
335i, jet black/saddle brown, premium, sport, nav, steptronic auto trans, sport wheel w paddles, anti theft, comfort access, heated front seats, satellite w 1 yr, HD radio, ipod & usb:
MSRP: $51,845
SALES PRICE: $46,500
State and Local Taxes 6.25%: $2,906.25
Dealers Inventory Tax: $117.41
Title, Reg Fee & Inspection: $59.75
License, License Transfer: $70.80
Doc Fee: $50.00
Drive Out Total: $49,704.21
Financed with 1.9% APR....No money down, first payment due Sep 15th.
Love the car!! Unbelievable power!!
Where exactly did you get your car? Herb Chaimber from MA gave me a quote for 2009 BMW 328 xdrive for 42536 include the following
metallic blue
cold weather package
premium package
AWD
Ipod adaptor
Destination Charge
what do you think?
Not too bad a deal. Although, I think you could get another $750-1000 knocked off that price. I think invoice for what you listed is around $41,000.
2009 328ix new
MSRP $39,245
Selling price $38,010
Only options are automatic, power seat, heated front seats
BMW Select deal at 1.9% rate, with $1500 out of pocket = $449 mo. for 60 months
Balloon payment at end of term is $13,343
I know there must be a downside to this select program that I am not seeing, but when I do a Kelly Blue Book look up for a used 2009 328ix with 60K miles,(I drive about 11-12K miles per year) in good condition(not the best) it gives me a trade in value of $23,775.(higher of course if I wanted to sell privately) So would that mean after 5 years I would buy the car for $13,343, then if I wished could trade in for about 23K and I would realize the difference of about 10K in equity? Or in 5 years would this 2009 be dramatically less than a current 2009 with 60K miles on it?
Thank you for any thoughts
That was very helpful, thank you.
Wondering if anyone can let me know from their experience if the lease offer I received today is in check.
I'm looking to lease a 2009 328i Coupe, premium package with Nav, iPod and Bluetooth.
First lease quote came in at:
3 year
15k miles/year
$3500 down, plus drive off
$399/month
Does this sound good?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Stephan
I think it is a good deal. And better than mine. Mine is;
2009 328i coupe, sport package+heated seats+Ipod+6speed_steptronic
MSRP 42845
Cost Capital price on the invoice is 38700.
I paid net out of my pocket $4,524 includes everything. tax, 1st month, last month, registration, licence, everything, cost reduction (down payment) 2500
Then, $378/mo. for 36months.
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