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Cadillac DTS



  • Look on Cadillacs website and media gm and they say that the DTS will be unveiled there.... Cadillac is doing well the XLR it met and it went beyond sales expectations.
  • I can't figure out what it is good for if you can't take a trip in it but that's only my opinion. I'm glad it is successful. It is a great looking car and if it had some luggage space I might have considered a used one in a year or two. I guess the real problem is the metal roof which takes up virtually the whole trunk. Fabric tops give a little and you can at least get a carryon under them.
  • Yeah I know there trunk is another issue, however the XLR is not a practical car....Let Neiman Marcus valet, but don't ever try to take home those Xmas fantasy gift because you want even fit yourself in the car. The XLR is flashy but if want extra space get an ESV.


    Do you find the info on the DTS @ cadillac or media gm about The Chicago Autoshow....IMO the more I see the new DTS I like it, but the regular production model has too look just a little better.


    The press is to have a preview on Feb 9, so be looking around for that, but the actual show does not open to the public until Feb 11
  • I haven't seen anything except the limosine or that car in the desert. Perhaps I'm missing a site. The Chicago Auto Show site doesn't mention it.
  • The Chicago Auto Show does not really tell about any cars at all. But just visit media gm and go to the Vehicle Media Sites click on Cadillac and click on the DTS limo pic.


    Or just go to Cadillac's website and click on DeVille and it gives you info.


    "The 2006 Cadillac DTS production model is set to make its first public appearance at the Chicago Auto Show in early February."


    Don't worry it's coming.
  • So it is here - at least at the auto show and there hasn't been a posting since the end of January. Isn't anyone interested in it at all? It would be nice to knock the subject around a bit.
  • Well, I will always be a Cadillac fan, but the front end needs a lower fascia, because it looks too short...

    My mom has a 2003 DeVille and I love that car. The 2006 is going in the right direction but the interior is so Buick "like" I cant even begin to describe how much I hate that. And the powertrain of sharing with the Buick is another turn off, though everyone knows that you just can't have that much power in a frontwheel drive car, but GM should have given a 250hp V8 instead of the 275 (opt 291) of the Cadillac because there are extremely too many similarities between the two cars, BUT Toyota does it with Lexus. Look at Corollas interior and the yes the ES300s interior(dash) though its based on the Camry but do it and you'll see the it's almost the same.

    But in all I like the DTS but I dont think mom will opt for one maybe a 2005 Limited Ed. DeVille...She wouldn't dare drive a Lincoln.
  • dispencer1dispencer1 Posts: 489
    I have a 2003 Deville and I fully intend to get a 2006 DTS as soon as one is a year old and lease returns come back to the dealers, I will not get another base model ex-rental car and what I want to find out is exactly what standard equipment comes on the DTS and what option packages are available. Obviously this information should be available soon since there are always people who must have the first one off the assembly line. I think the interior is an improvement over mine, especially since they lowered the dash. I also like the extra inch of front seat legroom in the 2006. There is a huge difference between the Buick and the Cadillac in quietness and riding comfort. They may look the same and share an engine but if you drive one then the other you can tell the difference. One is a Cadillac and the other is just another full size car.
  • dispencer1dispencer1 Posts: 489
    Guess nobody is interested in discussing this car. I'll see it I assume at the Dallas Auto Show next month. It looks pretty good to me from what I've seen so far. The question I have is what equipment will be standard on it.
  • chris65amgchris65amg Posts: 372
    I think that the reason why nobody is getting all fired up about the DTS is because the rest of the luxury marques have big RWD/AWD sedans taht cost a whole lot more, and the DTS's price slot is filled by more exciting cars like the 5 Series, A6, M35/45, and even the GS. All of them are RWD or AWD. I'm just saying that the price segment for the DTS is what some would call outdated.
  • ehaaseehaase Posts: 328
    Nobody's talking about the DTS because it's just a lightly updated Deville. Nothing to get excited about. Cadillac's future is the STS, CTS, and SRX.
  • You are absolutely right about our future being the CTS and STS, but dont cut out the extremely loyal customer that will and have always owned a deville. You cannot compete with the ride that this car offers. Ask any rear wheel drive vehicle owner in the midwest how this car preformes in the snow. Not nearly as well as the deville. Believe me I know I sell Cadillacs. We are anticipating the redesign, but need to still keep in mind our target demographic.
  • harleyeharleye Posts: 1
    My 2003 DTS is my 8th Cadillac. (I am 82. It's old guys like me that keep Cadillac in business.) I was broad sided in a 2002. It should have been totaled but the Ins Co insisted on getting it fixed. After wind noise and rattles, I let a Salesman talk me into a Seville. I only kept it a month because of the lack of room. So I took a $$ beating when I bought the 2003. The only difference from the 2002 was turn signal lights in the outside mirrors? I'm happy with the car although I wish the instrument panel was digital. The digital speedometer helps. My main complaints are picky - I don't like the CD player in the glove box and I would like to have a mute button for the radio. (I have found that I can fake it by pressing the phone button.)

    I'll probably buy a 2006 DTS. I've looked at the Lexus 430 but it is dull and doesn't have things I want - like OnStar and cornering lights. Apparently, if you want the Bose music system in the 2006 you have to have the CD changer in the glove box. I don't see why. Cheaper GM models have it in the dash.

    I have wanted to try the Night Vision, but the local dealer doesn't want to bother. There are lots of animals on the road at night in the wide open spaces of New Mexico. Has anyone had any experience with it?
  • dispencer1dispencer1 Posts: 489
    I want the 2006 DTS too but I usually buy a one year old 'Certified" Deville and these are usually base models that are ex-rental cars with no options. My 2003 is one of these and I won't get another. I'd like to find out what the standard equipment is on the DTS. I'll probably wait for a corporate lease return this time. My 2003 is a real pleasure to drive. The only problem has been wind noise from the right rear door. The dealer has ordered new door weatherstripping. I too live in NM (Clovis) and do a lot of night driving. I'd like to see those brighter headlights on the '06. I don't really want night vision because it may be a distraction. I've driven quite a bit in a friend's CTS in the Dallas Metroplex and frankly I think that my '01 Malibu rides better. Everybody seems to love the CTS but the Deville seems to be the best seller. I find it hard to associate the CTS with the word "Cadillac".
  • dispencer1dispencer1 Posts: 489
    Does anyone have a list of what is standard in this car and what is contained in the various option packages? Has Cadillac added anything standard to the base model that wasn't there in 2005?
  • joegodjoegod Posts: 13
    Will the 06 DTS be a front wheel drive ??
  • hammen2hammen2 Posts: 1,313
    Yes, 2006 and presumably at least 2-3 following model years will be FWD.
  • martynmmartynm Posts: 1
    I own a 70 Eldorado and a 2003 CTS. I love the sharp edges in both designs! I miss them in the Deville and Fleetwood line. Both look kinda outdated to me. It would've been more logical to see those sharp edges back in the DTS and Fleetwood as well.
    Must say the new design Cadillac came up with since 2002 with the CTS appeals to a younger audience than the old series. Those were litterary old series, as they seemed to appeal only to 55+people. Since the sharp edges and details faded in the 70's I lost my love for the 'new' Cadillac. But since this new style I love the new Cadillac again!
    I hope I may concider myself in the young audience being 30. And I love the CTS I just acquired! It looks sporty and comfortable and it handles like that too. It turns heads here in Europe, so Cadillac did a good job! I hope Cadillac will update the Deville and Fleetwood style as well, as the current design will never compete against the smarter looking 7 series BMW, S series Mercedes and more luxuary looking British designs (in Europe).
  • blkcadillacblkcadillac Posts: 47
    On Cadillac's web site on the All Vehicles tab they are showing More pics' and info on the 2006 DTS.

    1. Go Cadillac's web site
    2. Go to All Vehicles on the left side of the screen
    3. Click on the FUTURE MODELS tab and click on the DTS.
    4. Start reading.
  • jplaichjplaich Posts: 1
    I love my 1998 Cadillac DeVille Concours and have been shoping for my next Cadillac. I was planning on the new STS, but when I saw the interior of the new one I said forget it. I like the 2005 DTS, and I think this will be my last Cadiallc ever -- the new look is hideous! I hate the CTS, think the interior of the STS looks like a refrigerator, and the the body styling and read of the 2006 DeVille is just plain butt-ugly.

    I don't know what the exec's at GM just keep missing the mark -- those who buy this brand want a luxury car that has a disctinct look and feel to it; with the 2006's you're no different than the Japanese cars. Leave it alone! Remember you customer base are not the 20-something's who want a "wanna-be" luxury car, but are those who have attained a position in life and want a luxury car that is distinctive in styling yes doesn't look as if I am going through a mid-life crisis.

    If Cadillac continues on this neo-furutistic look for 2007, then absolutely they have lost a customer.

    Disappointed... JPL
  • dispencer1dispencer1 Posts: 489
    The thing that I can't understand is this prejudice against senior citizens that the car reviewers seem to have. Buicks are for "blue haired matrons", Devilles are for "old people" etc etc. There are lots and lots of people over 60 and the life span of these old folks increases every year. They have plenty of money to buy expensive cars and many of them take long road trips and like Devilles, LeSabres, Town Cars, Mercedes S Models, Lexus 430's etc. I'm not crazy about the new DTS either. The old Deville had the nicest lines since the 1966 Cadillac. Why is it sinful to build a conservative car that appeals to older people? I wouldn't take a cross country trip in a Toyota Camry. I don't have to. I like my Deville and hopefully will buy several more. I would think that the car manufacturers would deliberately slant advertising to older people. Cadillac used to back in the '50's and '60's. Cruise lines that operate really upscale ships do, and so on, but car reviewers automatically discount Devilles, LeSabres, etc as cars for old people. I went through my sport car phase -I don't have to drive them anymore thank God.
  • kcmoverkcmover Posts: 32
    I currently own a 2002 Caddy DTS, Loaded with everything but the Moon roof. always dealer maintained and brand new tires. the car has 56,000 miles and I am ready to trade it. But Have decided that since my dealer is a con-artist. I won't go back to them and have started looking at Mercedes and Lexus vehicles. GM has seemingly decided that Owner loyality means nothing and the value of a 2002 DTS to this dealer is almost 75% less then the original sticker price. How will GM stay in business if they can't take a buyer who is in his forties on his 4th Caddy and sell him another one. Is it just me or is it The Hendrick dealership I am doing business with or GM.
  • dispencer1dispencer1 Posts: 489
    A used car trade in to a dealer is worth -at the most - exactly what it would cost the dealer to purchase a similar one at the GM auction of ex-rental cars and lease returns. The "wholesale blue book" is a joke. How does the price the dealer wanted to pay you for your 2002 DTS compare to the wholesale blue book ? I'll bet it was $2-3k less. I would sell the car privately. If you have any realtors who are friends I'd create a flyer with a photo of the car and details on it along with the private party price. Ask him or her to distribute the flyer at the next meeting of the local Board of Realtors (these are usually once a week and the realtors do a house tour of new listings after the meeting). I did this with my 10,000 mile 2002 LeSabre Limited (I inherited it and already had a Deville) a couple of months ago and immediately sold it to a realtor for $15,000 -the retail value. A realtor in our company recently purchased a 2001 Seville SLS with 80k miles (but still had 20k to go on a Certified warranty) for $11,000 from a fellow realtor. This is a great market for full size cars like yours. If the car is a "certified" one with the remainder of the 6 year 100,000 mile warranty it is even a better deal.
  • dispencer1dispencer1 Posts: 489
    You might want to buy a "Certified" Deville rather than a new one. The warranty is 6 years or 100,000 miles vice 48 months/50,000 miles for a new car. You should definately NOT trade in your present car. Sell it at least for the Edmunds private party price.
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  • dispencer1dispencer1 Posts: 489
    So what did you do? Did you look at a Lexus? Did the Lexus dealer offer you any more on a trade? Did you explore the realtor route?
  • I am a fourth generation Cadillac owner. I presently own a 2002 Escalade and a 1996 Deville (close to 200K and still runs like a top). Both of these models will be the last Cadillacs I ever buy.

    I am 28, and I think GM is making a huge miscalculation if they believe this new restyling will attract younger buyers to their line. Cadillacs are regarded for their sophistication, quality, and luxury. This new DTS looks like a throwback to the late 90's Oldsmobile lineup before they went ca-plump. The new DTS is ugly. It has no marked styling. Cadillac seems to be no longer taking their line seriously.

    Young buyers expect the same thing from a Cadillac that older buyers do: A refined automobile that is elegant and distinctive. The name Cadillac speaks for itself. It makes no sense to drastically redesign a vehicle that was already on the fringe of what a true Cadillac is in the first place.

    Incidentally, can someone please explain to me why the resale value of Cadillacs is so low?
  • navigator89navigator89 Posts: 1,080
    What exactly is so bad with the styling of the DTS? Let's be honest, the DTS is nothing more than a refreshed Deville with a new name and interior. The exterior isn't radically changed either. The DTS's styling differences from the current Deville are only that the headlights and taillights seem taller and slimmer.

    I now believe that Cadillac is taking their lineup's styling more seriously than ever. We now know that Cadillacs are marked by tall, thin head and taillights, and the styling is pretty angular, the opposite of a Lexus. Audi BMW and MB all have their own traditional styling cues and Cadillac is joining the group.

    You say Cadillacs are regarded for sophistication, luxury and quality and while I dont disagree, I do feel that the DTS from the pictures seems to be the epitome of these three things. Just look at the interior pictures and the options list and you will know.

    Compare the Deville and the DTS. The DTS is not a major redesign of the Deville, rather a refreshed version of the Deville. It's what Chevy did to the Venture, they used the same platform, slapped on some different exterior styling and added a new interior and options. And there you have it, the 2005 Uplander.

    I don't know why the resale value of Cadillacs is so low. But I do know that young and old folks alike will appreciate the Deville. It takes whatever was good about the Deville and improves it.

    And someone is so disgusted with the new DTS, I would suggest buying a Town Car, Lucerne, Avalon or 300 instead of complaining about a great car.
  • kcmoverkcmover Posts: 32
    Have not done anything yet. I've looked hard and long maybe the M-350 from Mercedes or the Avalon from Toyota. At least the depreciation won't be as bad.
  • kcmoverkcmover Posts: 32
    I've been wondering the same thing on the Resale value being so low. It shouldn't cost so much to drive a CADDY. Three year old Toyota's have a better resale value.
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