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I've been reading this board for the last week or so and decided to check the car out for myself.
I walked into the dealership and there was a White Verona EX in the showroom. I've never been a fan of white cars so it did not impress me upon first glance. The interior on the other hand had the feel of a luxury car(leather, wood grain, power driver seat, heated front seats, and I especially liked the glow of the instrument panel). I then took a Sapphire Gray Metallic Verona EX for a test drive(was not too fond of this color either). The car does lack power, but it is an extremely quiet and smooth ride. IMO this car looks best in a dark color, like Tuxedo Black Pearl or Garnet Red Metallic.
Although it does not redefine the mid-size class, it fits in very nicely, especially because of the value. I would tell anyone interested in a mid-size sedan to give this car a look.
I am happy that you took time to test ride the Verona and liked it. As far as the power is concerned..it has similar power curves to the 4 cylinder accord. I dont find it inadequete by any means...however some of the readers have felt it because of what is expected from a 6 cylinder engine. Because of the inline configuration the stroke of the cylinder is kept smaller and this creates more space inside. The Car does ride very smooth and that counts in a family based sedan. I have a monarch blue and that does look good..but it gets dirty quickly especially the salt stains in the current weather. I like the silver color and the red too.
Its 670 miles on the Verona and there is no problem yet. Runs very well and no cold start.
That said, if this car gets a power boost for 05, and some side impact protection options, this segment will be really on fire!! (The Altima is being updated, with the 2005 model bowing this spring, and the Camry will be updated for the 2005MY, available this fall....)
~alpha
My verona has 1574 miles,running great.I have the black...looks awsome when clean, but the salt and snow really show up and looks bad.Guess ill spend alot of time at the car wash..
Enjoy your Verona.
Carrino.... .have you tried www.foreignmotors.com?.
Thanks
~alpha
What I'd like to see in an 05 Verona:
-side airbags..PLEASE!!!
-5 speed auto (maybe even with shiftronic)
-sport model with 17" wheels
-optional spoiler
-optional upgraded stereo
Lil30200's observation on the test by edmunds is interesting.
A quick visit to dictionary.com will also prove that the Verona is not deficient of power/performce. The person who makes such claims is known to exaggerate.
deficiency: The quality or condition of being deficient; incompleteness or inadequacy
adequate: Sufficient to satisfy a requirement or meet a need
overabundant: Going or being beyond what is needed, desired, or appropriate
0-60 times vary greatly for this car, and edmunds.com own test was off the mark compared to other publications. Car and Driver tested the Verona for 10.7 seconds. My Nubira does it in around 10 seconds (129hp, 136ft-lb). I have had no problem with acceleration (undeniably the status quo) or passing multiple cars on 2-lanes.
I find it interesting that the Daewoo 2.5l inline six was rated at 180hp in 2001 as ULEV (from several sources). However, it is 155 hp today for some reason. Also, both the Verona and Forenza are available with side airbags elsewhere:
http://www.media.suzuki.com/auto/04/forenza/photography/views/05_- forenza.jpg
Visit for a lot of information concerning the design and engineering of the engine in the Verona:
http://www.autoweb.com.au/start_10/showall_/id_DAE/doc_dae0202131- /cms/news/newsarticle.html
"If the Verona was low on power but produced class-leading EPA numbers or if the Verona offered class-leading performance to offset it's low (by today's standards) fuel economy "
The EPA fuel economy figures show that for a six cylinder the Verona's mileage is adequete.
Look at are edmunds figures and compare them with cylinders and cubic capacity:
The Verona shows 20/28 which is better than Sonata's or Gallant's. This forum has many entries on power. As all Verona owners say Power and Torque in the Verona is good enough to take you wherever you want. I have never felt that the few seconds difference in accelaration has left me fighting for life!! The EPG is not going to burn a hole in the wallet!. It is not fair to thrash the car based on a few points alone but look at the value proposition afforded. So far all Verona owners agree that it is indeed an excellent choice for the money you pay.
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rasup was simply showing that the Verona does not "produc(e) some of the lowest gas mileage figures"
Neither are ratings "poor" alpha01. Again you exaggerate. From dictionary.com:
Poor: not adequate in quality; inferior; insufficient; Lacking in quantity
Lacking: Deficiency or absence
Please learn the proper meaning of the words that you use, or provide adequate reason (and proof) for using them. We had made "excellent inroads" on this issue in the past.
"Every car has faults rasup, you just seem to be unable to concede that the Verona is no different."
I see no evidence rasup holding this position, only conspiring attempts to create such an issue by an other. But, if delusion is your bag...
Thanks.
Rasup correctly states that 20/28 falls in the range formed by V6 vehicles of this class. However, the Sonata GLS V6, the Galant V6, et al, produce MORE POWER and furnish better acceleration, while achieving similar ratings. (The Sonata is 1 MPG behind the Verona, but provides stronger acceleration to the tune of 1.1 seconds to 60, 1.6 seconds from 30 to 50, and 2 seconds from 50 to 70, by Car and Drivers watch).
As we've astutely established, stronger response is more important to some, and less so to others. However, I'm using facts to make the assertion that, given the similar fuel economy, the Verona is "inferior" to the Sonata (perhaps its closest competitor anyway), and also "Lacking in quantity" where vigor is concerned. So, on two counts of your dictionary definition, the shoe fits.
Insufficient... is more of a judgement call, one that the consumer will ultimately make. However, my only continued issue with this topic is that Verona fans refuse to concede that, COMPARED TO THE REST OF THE MIDSIZE CLASS, the Verona is underpowered. (Also, reference the edmunds.com comparo to come to the realization that the Verona is actually underpowered compared to the compact class as well).
~alpha
Now, put same 10 people in a noticably faster car, no matter what the name is, then put them in the verona, and youwould probably get comments realiting to lack of power.
I know compared to my Vitara it felt like a rocket, again this is relative because my rig is pretty slow regardless. Thus, pretty much anything else I drive would appear to be more powerful then what I have.
~alpha
~alpha
I took a risk in buying the Verona. It hasn't been crash tested and reliability is a question mark, but personally I couldn't stomach being yet another Camary or Accord on the road. Not that the Verona turns any heads, but I like having something unique. I haven't seen another one on the road. Logical? No. Stupid reason to buy? Maybe...but then...I don't understand why anyone (unless they have money to burn) would spend 30, 35 or 40,000 for any vehicle.
All things taken into consideration, to this point (5,000 miles) I think the Verona was the "right" choice for me.
Happy motoring to you.
~alpha
As far as Verona owners opinion is concerned, you can see that they are happy with their choice. Good luck on whatever Car you choose.
Good Luck.
I just noticed my Verona EX odometer hit 1984 today. Lots of miles for a month of ownership. I have to admit the Verona has had no negatives other than it’s not paying my sales tax, registration and insurance fees. I do hope GMDAT corrects this. If not for me then for other Verona buyers. If this isn’t fixed I may never purchase another vehicle produced in whole or part by GM. Fancy 0 to 60 times aside GM’s overlooking these very glaring mistakes is unforgivable. I don’t care if I got a $3000.00 reduction in MSRP and that my Insurance is only $50.00 a month.
Regarding performance(A private word to current Verona owners), how about that acceleration rush from 3 to 4 grand on the tachometer? I wasn’t expecting that! It even clobbers you when you aren't making an “emergency” on ramp access to the highway. What a pleasure.
Gas mileage is a strong 23-24 MPG depending on the amount I use heavy electric options as heated seats, rear window with mirror defrosters and climate control fan on its highest setting. Without the extra drain on the alternator I would get higher MPG.
After one month I have nothing but high praise for my Verona. I’ll keep you posted.