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Mike
Let me begin with an east coast THANK YOU!!
I was sooo turned off by the dealer experience, (and this is from a NEW LEXUS store that opened on 3/1), that I went and drove a BMW X5 today.. Honestly (and we own an 04 325Ci Convertible) and IMHO, there is NO comparison between the two vehicles. The Lexus is just a better riding, comfortable and quiet car, AND when I mentioned that my 01 RX has never, ever, never been back to the dealership (or any repair shop for anything other than maintenance since the day it left the showroom), the reply was "Yeah, they are good that way.."
I hope you get this quickly since I hate my e-mail in a public forum but nevertheless.. my e-mail is phula11231@yahoo.com
I have no issue with the DVD player, it's just that we dont need one..(no small children) but no issues with adding any of the other options you mentioned..
Is there a difference in CA vehicles emissions? I thought the GX was 50 state legal,meaning that they were the same exact vehicle in CA, NY and the other lower 46..? Any problems or extra caution to worry about..?
I would like to hear from anyone who has successfully shipped a vehicle from Cali to the east coast too, please.
Thanks Sicom. !
Ed in NJ
send me the info.
csa24@cableone.net
Thanks
Not one would consider ANYTHING less than $1K over invoice (and keep in mind that today is the last day of the month)so, if this discussion presents anything close to the $1000-$1500 UNDER invoice, even with another $500 for delivery, it's one heck of a deal..
Looking forward to getting the information suggested above..
Would still like to hear from anyone that has actually taken delivery (other than Sicom007 of course), cause the NJ dealers think I am off my meds..:-)
Thanks
ED
This is the car I purchased:
Cypress Pearl
Ivory
NL, TH, TO, DD, E5, Z1 & Tow Equipment
No - I didn't get DVD even though I had 3rd Row.
The Internet Sales rep I worked with, was great...straight forward and better than the others - which is why I stuck with her.
Best deal in Colorado was 3500.00 off MSRP and that was last month, this month, 2 dealers wouldn't even get me 2000.00 off MSRP. Was tired of dealing with them.
Now for shipping. I am going to do some more research. They will ship for $750, but covered. I think I am going to go uncovered and find someone close to $500.00.
One way to know if you paid the TDA or not would be to ask the dealer for the actual invoice. Since you have bought from them they should not have any issues in sending you the actual invoice?
BTW which dealer did you buy from (only name please no contact details as per forum rules) and what was the price before TTL?
Not because I live in California, but I think if any car passes the emission controls in CA it will be fine in any other State
On a serious note I would defer that question to either the dealer or the Lexus themselves.
I know someone from Seattle did order a car from the same dealer (diljit?). Atleast that's what the dealership told me when we picked up up our car. Maybe he can answer.
Not sure if you need any more information from me at this time but please let me know.
Please see my reply that I sent to another member. Please ask Lexus if you can buy a car in Calif. and use it in WI.
That is the exact same car that we bought (not leased). The Invoice on the car is $49,030. My price was $48,030 in White color. So they are asking for $300 over invoice.
Thanks
Thanks
Mitch,
email; Mitch887@comcast.net
Riverside Lexus - The sales women was very nice...and like I said, I really think I could have got a couple more hundred off, but I was down to 3/31 in the evening and felt I was going to lose my barginning power quickly.
And yes, before I even started to talk, she faxed me the Invoice on the car...which matched the invoice prices on NADA. But...broke out the TDA, Dealer Holdback & Whsl. Financial Reserve. Nada invoice base price includes the later minus TDA.
PS: Glendale, Mission Viejo, Santa Monica, Sewell, and Superstition - seemed all very willing to deal. I never called Glendale back, but they were the lowest initially. Best recent quote from my closest Dealer - Stevinson, was $1250 off MSRP...HA!! Oh and my email was buzzing right before quarter end...now not even a "hello". So I was right to close it.
Now - after reading some posts on the Navigation and the restrictions it has while moving, I am beginning to think that was a waste of $$.
Mike
Got your e-mail.
Have sent inquiries out.
Will let everyone know how I make out.
Regards
ED
You should be fine. You can buy anywhere and take it to any dealer to get it serviced. Hey if a local dealer cannot give you the best price, he does not deserve your business.
We took our 2 week old car (that was bought elsewhere) to the local dealer as we could not adjust the strap on the third row seat and the sales guy was telling us he could have matched the price (even though we gave him a chance earlier and he flat out refused to ). We had no issues in asking for a service advisor and he helped us out immediately.
Not certain what you are saying: "Please ask Lexus if you can buy a car in Calif. and use it in WI."
I could not find a reply to another member as you indicated or I didn't recognize the context. Can you clarify please? Thanks. Also is KDSS routinely available now in CA?
Mike
Thanks,
Let's say I move to another state next month and I have already purchased the car you think I cannot use the car there?
If KDSS is already available in CA then you can always buy it if you want. The dealer I bought it from said that it was not available at the time I bought (3 weeks back)
is there any other information that you require?
Thanks,
PP
However, my experiences thusfar are summarized as follows
1) Dealer A wants me to FLY to California in order to "earn my business". That's pretty dumb, IMHO.
2) Dealer B never answers a question, only gives me copy and pasted information about the cars she has in stock. Good information, but just doesn't take the time to read my notes (ie, I want ivory interior and she gave me 2 price quotes for gray) or answer my questions "How do we process payment..?" What about collecting sales tax ?" Really EASY questions.
3) I got a third contact from the Club Lexus board who was VERY responsive, but wouldn't deal for less than 1% over invoice (plus the costs of shipping to NJ)
So..again I thank the kind gentlemen that provided the contacts, but for me, it didn't work out..Maybe if you are closer to CA than I am...
Good Luck
ED
That dealer works with Brokers in Colorado, so she was familiar with Shipping and out of state buyers. She sent me the paper work DHL Overnight..I sent back with payment checks/Signatures. She priced Shipping - was the best rate I could find. $500 - not enclosed. So she handled that as well. I just sent a check.
It should be arriving (hoping the weather doesn't slow it down) Saturday. She reiterated that if I see anything wrong with the vehicle that I can send it right back - same shipper, they would handle it.
Sales Tax - because I was shipping out of the state of California - I was required to pay sales tax in my state, (Colorado Sales Tax) and its processed, I believe, when I register the vehicle.
So Far good experience...I will let you know as soon as everything processes.
Can you please email me your dealer contact info to david_butts@hotmail.com?
Thanks for all the helpful info.
I contacted Fleetrates.com at the recommendation of another forum. They could go $1500 over invoice, this without any negotiation on my part. I was simply doing some preliminary work anddid not try to negotiate a better deal. I am not buying for another month or 2. They stated that all Lexus dealers charge $790 dealer prep but they would waive that through Fleetrates.com. I am not sure if this is true or not. Additional shipping charge would apply but that will be an issue from anyone whom I would have ship to me. I coud get it within a week if it is in stock at any number of dealers they work with.
Anyone out there have any info on this dealer prep issue? Seems like a bogus charge to increase dealer profit.
Good job by the way on your deal.
Mike
mnordst344@aol.com
Can you please email me the contact email of the lady you bought from, to pmarella AT hotmail.com
Thanks in Advance.
I don't think the sales person I worked with is going to provide the same deal or better out of the gate. This person wasn't a manager and the other 3 people on the internet sales team could help just as well. Riverside Lexus treated me well, the car came quickly and I was happy. If you send them an email telling them what you want and what you want to pay for it (through the Lexus site), they will give you their best price. If you want to try and get closer or under invoice it is about timing and your bargaining power. I only got them to move under their initial price because it was end of 3rd quarter and I had other dealers willing to do a better deal. The more dealers you email, the better you will be.
Invoice price on NADA (and other sites) include Dealer Holdback and Wholesale Financial Reserve. It doesn't include TDA. Dealer Prep is usually an added fee from the dealer and most sites suggest that you don't pay for it. I didn't pay dealer prep for my car, but I did pay TDA & the other two costs included in Invoice price. Dealers are able to sell under invoice because they have the combination of those 3 to work with, however, I do belive it is an unusual situation and not one dealer is going to continue to sell their cars under invoice (again why I don't think me providing my sales person info to 5 people will work the way everyone thinks).
If I talk to them again - I will ask them and get back to you all.
PS: If you are far from California (i.e. East Coast), get shipping prices first.
Can you please email me the contact of SoCal dealer that gives good deal on GX ?
Thank you.
kcyangusa@gmail.com
Can you please email me the contact info for the SoCal dealer?
Thanks
r9973
r9973@yahoo.com
Base vehicle, Nav/ML, 3rd row seat w AC, rear spoiler, pref acc package, all weather mats, tow prep package. $47,200 which is invoice + $500, NJ Sales tax, tire tax, doc fees are extra. I can tell you that I priced the car EVERYWHERE as I wanted it configured (which is basically everything except the rear entertainment dvd), and this was the absolute best deal I could find within 500 mile driving distance of central NJ.
If you PM me or e-mail me at phula11231 AT yahoo.com, I can point you to a NJ dealer who will provide you a great deal.
In fact, if you are ready to go NOW (and I do mean now), we can probably buy BOTH yours and mine and get a few extras thrown in. If you arent quite ready, I'll still give you my contact..but it would be mighty sweet to offer to buy TWO GX's (heck maybe more), and squeeze a little more..
BTW, I contacted the west coast dealers, and, as I reported earlier, they were not cooperative for me. One even wanted me to fly to Cali, just to process the paperwork (welcome to the new millenium).
I am NOT a car dealer, related to a car dealer, or anything else. Not a shill, and no hanky panky. I appreciate the opportunity to give back to Edmunds and the community here, who have helped me in the past.
ED in Metuchen, NJ
PS. Although one Cali Lexus dealer did offer "at invoice" price, the cost of shipping the car ($500 or more), made the deal a wash compared to what I was able to negotiate.
Thanks.
My dealer is Lexus of Riverside. I talked to my internet sales person, he/she doesn't have an issue talking to others interested so I will email that person's name. This is what was said though,"pricing changes from model to model and is based on Inventory and the availability of the color and equipment someone wants." Again - I got my deal end of quarter.
gcheck
Have you already taken delivery of the car? Any issue with the shipping or was it smooth as well?
PS: I would guess that most of the Auto Brokers in Colorado deal with the Lexus Dealers on the west cost. My sales person stated as such. They was used to shipping to Colorado.
I am not much on conspiracy theories. The salesperson had multiple times to correct the situation. Why didn't he? Why did the Japanese production facility send the order change if the order was never submitted? I think they sold the SUV to someone else that saw the vehicle in the store for a higher price. Maybe someone like us, who did not want the third row. I don't believe the sales guy was that incompetent or blatantly lied over and over when we exchanged messages by saying that everything was fine on multiple occasions. He was promoted during this time and is still with the dealership, but I have not been able to reach him.
We are angry and frustrated with the prospect of waiting until October for the SUV. We like the SUV, but don't care much for the front-end people. And we don't want to pay $50K and not get exactly what we want. Any suggestions for finding out what really happened? Do we have any recourse? I have been contemplating writing Lexus of North America to complain. Any suggestions are welcome. Thakns.
We just picked up the 07 with the following features:
P7-XM radio; M7-Lexus Link; TH-3rd row seats/rear AC; NL-nav/ MarkLev syst; RI-Enhanced Ent.; DD-spoiler; E5 exhaust tips; Z2-accessories; TO-tow hitch ball; DH-tow prep; and a gold letter package. Black exterior with tan interior. Total sticker price was $57,005.00.
Invoice was $49,693.00. We got for $500.00 over invoice at $50,193.00 plus the Lexus dealer fee ($599.95) and tax, tag, etc. My "out the door" cost total (includes everything with taxes) was $54,049.42 before the $900 coupon or trade of the 03.
Our old 03GX is available and posted at: This link If you need more information just contact us.
Discussed getting the KDSS system but I was told it would require a factory order and at least 120 days. This particular vehicle was already on the boat to Florida and the dealer agreed to obtain it prior to docking in Jacksonville.
The 07 is just terrific. Lexus somehow managed to improve an already extraordinary car. Highly recommend!
Good luck with your own searches. We hope this is helpful.
Could you email me the contact information of the dealership where you purchased your GX470 at? My email address is vnh84 AT yahoo DOT com.
Thanks a lot!
Thanks.
Mike
Sadly 5 days after we got the car we were involved in an accident. The damage didnt look that bad but the frame was bent. After alot of haggling I got the insurance company to total the car and we ended up getting the same car, same deal from Mungenast Lexus here in St. Louis.
I am wondering how you made out re: GX 470 in Chicago. Did that work out well for you? I am about to look there myself.
Mike
Could you please email me the contact information? I visited the Lexus of Riverside web site but there are three ladies in the Internet Department. My email address is khu AT superzone DOT com.
Thanks a lot!
Kev in Dallas, TX
Navigation, Mark Levinson Surround Sound System, Third Row seat, rear wind deflector, tow hitch, tow package, the preferred accessory package for $49,800 + 399 doc fee + tax title. Over all nice experience and sales people are nice and friendly.
Could you please email me your Lexus dealer contact information ?
Did anybody in Texas successfully buy GX from out-of-state dealers ?
My email address is sangria3000@yahoo.com
Thanks a lot!
Anthony in Houston, TX
I am in Austin, TX. tried $1500 over invoice, didn't work. Also tried North Cali, shipping was 1500$ didn't work either.
ED in Metuchen