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  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    Oh yeah, my 5th Ave is horrible around town. I can actually get the fuel economy down to single digits without trying too hard. Of course, my short commute to work doesn't help, as the car barely gets a chance to fully warm up. And sometimes I'd start it up just to move it out of the garage if it was in the way, so that doesn't do much for economy.

    Back in 2008, I had to drive the 5th Ave up for Spring Carlisle when the Intrepid died. It rained something fierce all the way home, and the tires on that car are, to put it nicely, "marginal". I was probably averaging 45-55 mph all the way home, probably never got above 60. Thankfully the rain was fierce enough to make everybody slow down, so I wasn't holding up traffic at those speeds. Anyway, on that trip home, I got 18.3 mpg. Yet this past weekend, running more like 65-75 mph, depending on traffic, and even hitting 80-85 a couple times, I still managed 18.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    Wow, that makes me feel better about my car. I have to really try to get it below 14mpg or so - I'd have to hot-rod around all the time. If I drive like a normal person, 15-16 or so seems average.

    I think gas here has fallen a dime or so in the past few weeks...I think I paid around $3.10 for Chevron premium.
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    I think wet pavement actually lowers mpg. I would doubt in any case that your 5th Avenue would be more efficient at 65+ mph compared to 45-55 mph, all else being equal. For one thing, it only has a 3-speed auto, correct?

    Plus, there would be tank-to-tank measuring error, which you can't do anything about, since you only take it on long trips a couple of times a year. Now if you want halfway across the country and back (probably not what you'd want to do with a 30-year-old car ;) ), you'd have more accuracy after averaging several fill-ups.
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    I would doubt in any case that your 5th Avenue would be more efficient at 65+ mph compared to 45-55 mph, all else being equal. For one thing, it only has a 3-speed auto, correct?

    Yeah, just a 3-speed automatic, but it has a tall 2.45:1 axle ratio, so at mid-range speeds it's pretty quick to downshift to second, which is a 1.45:1 ratio (for a multiplication of ~3.55:1) At higher speeds it's torquey enough to just stay in 3rd.

    Plus, there would be tank-to-tank measuring error, which you can't do anything about, since you only take it on long trips a couple of times a year.

    I always try to top the car off, and as soon as the pump shuts off, I'll usually try to round up just a bit, to the next 5 or 10 cents. Still, I realize those pumps can vary when they shut off. I wonder how much it can vary from tank to tank? It has a 21 gallon tank. I wonder if it could vary by as much as a gallon, from fill up to fill up?

    I've recorded over 20 mpg three times with the car. Got 22.5 on the day I bought the car, bringing it home from West Va. Got 21.9 in 2008 when I drove up to the Mopar Nats in Carlisle. And just this past summer, I got 21.4 doing that same trip. On those trips when I go directly out to Carlisle, the terrain is more level. This past weekend and the weekend before I went to Harrisburg, around the Baltimore Beltway and up I-83, and that route's a lot more hilly.

    I've also tracked overall mpg for the car since I bought it back in October 2001. A somewhat depressing 11.5 mpg, overall. :blush:
  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    We've had a touch of a bump upward here. The station that was $2.12 is up o $2.16.
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    i know your commute is really short.
    did you try to pump up the tires?
    11.5 is worse than my kids get driving the explorer.
    239 hp v8 4wd with 3.73 axle ratio and a 300 watt system with subwoofer.
    the louder the music, the worse the mileage. ;)
    RUG is touch under 2.50.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Member Posts: 9,372
    The station I usually buy at bumped up 2 cents to $2.47 which is what almost every other station in town was at. But several other stations dropped to $2.45 and one went down to $2.43
    Screwy
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    I returned home yesterday after 5687 miles in my Sequoia. Average for trip 17.93 MPG. Average cost for RUG $2.47. Cheapest gas in Indiana, Kentucky & Missouri. Low price $2.17 in MO. Highest CA at $2.99. Cost about 14 cents per mile. Very pleasant comfortable drive. Glad to be home.
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,198
    Gas at my local discount place jumped 17 cents in 4 days from $2.46 to $2.63 for RUG. What's up with that?

    Oil was up around $78 bbl. yesterday. Are we going to have this speculator crap happen again? With everybody still out of work I don't think we can blame it on the SUVs anymore.

    Maybe Soros needs a new boat. :cry:

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    The dollar has been through the floor lately...that might be part of it.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Member Posts: 7,709
    yep, man, you're right. I've noticed on my little Euro-to-USD exchange box converter on my desktop. The USD is really getting scrunched of late in comparo's.

    Oh, and we're at $2.42 at the Mustang Giant station in little 'ole Willcox, AZ. Down about 3 cents from a week ago. Been feelin' it's time for a price change but it's not happenin' very fast here in the desert SW. Not much does happen very fast here, though. :blush:

    2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick

  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    Gasoline prices jumped 12 cents at my local Sunoco station from $2.29 for RUG up to $2.41! There was an article in last week's Philadelphia Inquirer about a man being laid-off from Sunoco because they were shutting down the refinery where he was working. Gee, do you think THAT might be the reason for this sudden spike in fuel prices? We're all being played for chumps! :mad:
  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Member Posts: 9,372
    The price of gasoline seems to no longer have anything to do with the "natural" realities of supply and demand, but seems to move solely on A) what some analyst THINKS might happen, or B) "artificial" disruptions in supply like when OPEC announce they want to cut back production, and even that fall under the first cetegory because the price reacts before anything has actually happened.

    Oh yea, a dime bump to $2.57 in snowy Happy Valley
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,675
    >no longer have anything to do with the "natural" realities of supply and demand,

    Or even to PR releases from some arm of the oil industries suggesting there is an excuse for raising prices such as a routine shutdown of a refinery portion to do what is actually routine maintenance or such as needing to produce more fuel oil for the NorthEast (is that going to work this year?) or to explain why all the oil currently being stored isn't really a factor in pricing.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    It is hard to feel for the rest of the USA when CA drivers are in a constant state of being ripped off. My closest station is Shell and I filled for $2.99 yesterday. My mileage dropped right back to 14.5 MPG with the crap they force on us here. You would think with the millions of drivers and the long commutes in CA they would be rolling in money with the 60+ cents per gallon tax.
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    Published: 10/19/09, 5:05 PM EDT
    By DIRK LAMMERS

    (AP) - Despite persistently low demand, prices for gasoline have spiked over the past week along with crude oil, threatening one of the very few points of relief for the recession-stricken U.S. consumer: Cheap gas.

    That may be frustrating for consumers with few signs people are driving more now than during what was a dismal summer for the travel industry. People aren't buying much gasoline.

    "I wish it could go down under $2," said Cheryl Couture, 50, who was filling up at a Speedway station in Columbus, Ohio, where a gallon had risen to $2.55.

    Couture has watched as gas prices have ticked higher. Prices have risen for three straight weeks, reaching a national average of $2.574 per gallon of unleaded regular, the Energy Information Administration said Monday.
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    Is the mpg comparison fair? I'd think that now that your back in Cali, you're in more stop-and-go traffic than on your cross-country trip.

    Our prices in central VA have risen in the last couple of weeks, but you can still find RUG for under $2.40.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Crude oil rose above $79 a barrel in New York to a one-year high, the 8th straight day it's risen. Gas refineries are running around 82% capacity. (Bloomberg)

    Regular fell .04 a gallon here to an average of $2.65 at most stations.

    And we've had a house guest all week who has been driving my Subaru around town, and he filled the tank up for me, so I'm a bit ahead for the month. :)
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    Is the mpg comparison fair? I'd think that now that your back in Cali, you're in more stop-and-go traffic than on your cross-country trip.

    You tell me. I was basing it on the 6 days I spent in Evansville running on Shell RUG at $2.29 per gallon. I put 275 miles on that tank of gas and got 16.84 MPG. It was much more stop and go than at home. With short 2 mile trips to my daughters from the hotel and out to dinner. longest trip on that tank was to the Audubon Museum 30 miles away in Henderson KY during rush hour traffic. I think the formula for gas in CA is designed for lower mileage. Maybe closer to 10% of that worthless ethanol. I used mostly Shell on the trip to get my 5% discount. The prices were much more consistent in a given area of the country. Here you can have 50 cents difference across the street. Maybe the high priced Chevron would render a higher MPG.
  • jae5jae5 Member Posts: 1,206
    to an average of $2.76 for 87 octane. I was able to go to my #2 station to fill-up for $2.60 (both daily driver and car). Funny how I can go a few miles in one direction and get petrol almost 20 cents cheaper than going a couple miles in the opposite direction & pay more!! The closer stations and the ones on my work commute started the morning at $2.60 ~ $2.65 but ended at $2.76 on the way home.

    The Gas City has E85 for $2.66, 87 octane for $2.76

    One Speedway had one sign 87 octane for $2.759 with 89 octane for $2.859. Then on their other sign the prices were reversed. :confuse:
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    It seems like 87 octane has shot up to around $2.49-2.52/gal, with 93 above $2.80 in these parts (Bowie, MD area).

    Just this past Saturday (10/17), I had filled up the Intrepid for $2.369 (87)
  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Member Posts: 9,372
    Another 6 cents today to $2.63

    Must have been that huge increase in demand or decrease in supply. Oh wait, neither of those things happened, silly me
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    prices have been pretty much the same at least for the last 2 weeks. paid 2.559 last 2 fill ups.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    same station i filled up at 3 days ago or so, is up about 15 cents.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    Gas prices have risen by over 30 cents over the last two weeks!

    Sunoco at Rhawn and Verree in NE Philly:

    RUG = $2.63
    Ultra = $2.89
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    That's what regular cost at the end of September too. It dropped .04 cents for a couple of weeks there but went back up.

    It's not such a shock when they've been overcharging you for months on end already. :P
  • jae5jae5 Member Posts: 1,206
    to $2.74 for my fillup yesterday, everyone else running $2.85 ~ $2.89 for 87 octane. City's at $3 or more for 87 octane.

    Like pf_flyer said, what the heck is going on? Are things reversed now, demand is down so prices go up? Pre-Halloween rush? Too much rain? I really don't beleive it's just the dollar having a slight decrease in value as being the sole reason.
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    ...my wife's Buick LaCrosse last night. Regular costs more than what premium did a month ago. Good thing I had a 5 cents off a gallon from Acme Markets from food shopping earlier that day! She has a tendency to run her car practically empty while I keep all my cars topped off.
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    Last time I filled my wife's LS400 at Costco on September 2nd the price was $3.05. I filled yesterday and premium was at $2.95. The old boat got 17.75 MPG on that tank of gas. Best vehicle we own for mileage.
  • jae5jae5 Member Posts: 1,206
    Regular costs more than what premium did a month ago...

    Same here. Looking over my records I actually paid more per gallon yesterday than I did at this time last year!! Earlier in the month I was paying over a dollar less when compared to last year.

    Let your wife know that in-tank pumps really don't like constantly being ran empty, the fuel actually helps keep them cool. But seeing as it's a GM I'm sure the tank probably has about 3 ~ 5 gallons left when the gauge reads empty.
  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    But seeing as it's a GM I'm sure the tank probably has about 3 ~ 5 gallons left when the gauge reads empty.

    Heck, Hondas are somewhat like that as well.

    I think we've created the equivalent of a few full time jobs around here when you add up the time of guys going up to change teh pump prices every day. We've broken $2.50 here.
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • jae5jae5 Member Posts: 1,206
    was for $2.75 for 87 octane. A few other places were listed for $2.73 according to gasbuddy but were out of my way for the errands I was running. Most are still in the $2.79 ~ $2.85 range.

    In the city over the weekend I saw prices as high as $3.10 and as low as $2.85 for 87 octane.

    It's hard to tell if prices are going to decrease further the more we go into winter - last year this time prices began to plummet.
  • jae5jae5 Member Posts: 1,206
    In that case, forget BO and the crew for taking credit for the stimulus' job creation - we're doing it!! :P
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    Let your wife know that in-tank pumps really don't like constantly being ran empty, the fuel actually helps keep them cool. But seeing as it's a GM I'm sure the tank probably has about 3 ~ 5 gallons left when the gauge reads empty.

    Hmm, that's good to know. Maybe that's one reason why my Intrepid's low fuel light comes on when it still has about 4 gallons left, while my '79 New Yorker, which still uses the old mechanical pump mounted at the front of the engine, triggers the light with only two gallons left.

    I'm sure those in-tank fuel pumps aren't exactly cheap to replace, either.
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    I've also heard that it's a myth to run the tanks down to near-empty because of overheating in-tank fuel pumps. I'm not certain who's correct on this. A question for Shifty perhaps?

    But I do usually fill up before the light comes on. And you're absolutely right that in-tank pumps aren't cheap to replace.

    We're now in the low $2.50s range for RUG in central VA. But there are huge variations for the higher grades -- some places have the once-typical 10-cent increments, while others are pushing nearly 20 cents! I guess it says premium buyers aren't as price sensitive.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    The fluid (gas) keeps the pump cool and makes it last longer.

    I rarely fill up until my tanks get down to E though, and often not until the light comes on, and I've never burnt a fuel pump up.

    Gas remains $2.69 for regular here in Boise. It's been holding there for weeks and weeks.
  • jae5jae5 Member Posts: 1,206
    Yes, I'm not sure if that's a coincidence or not but the fuel helps to dissipate the heat of the pump motor as Steve stated. Constantly running the tank empty allows the pump to not only be hotter externally (by not being cool on the outside) but also doesn't have the cooling effect of the fluid flow through it. Kind of like running an engine w/o coolant or running a tile cutter without cutting fluid. There may be a problem with aeration too. All my GMs were / are slightly different but the Olds' have be the closest together; the Chevies have been way apart. The Nissan could read empty and I'd still be able to drive it a couple days before having to put petrol in it. The Mercury, if it was low it was ready to stop on you!!

    Most times you have to drop the tank to get to them, or remove the truck bed; a few vehicles have access panels but even then it's a pain. :sick: Oh, and most seem to go right after you fill the tank

    Also about all in-tank pumps are pusher design, as are most aftermarket external electric pumps. They push fuel better than pull while the on-block, lever-type pumps are puller; they have the lever creating the vacuum or "pull", to pull the fuel to the carb.
  • jae5jae5 Member Posts: 1,206
    was for $2.65. Most other stations are at $2.72 or $2.76. Not sure what to expect in the next couple weeks with the upcoming holiday and official X-mas shopping kick-off.
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    Drifting slowly downward, very slowly. The cheapest for RUG is now about $2.50.

    If you belong to Sam's Club or have a Kroger discount card, you can get it for a little less.
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    Filled at Costco this morning. RUG $2.69, lowest price since July. Most stations $2.79 - $2.99. Diesel averaging about $2.89.
  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    I'll tell you one thing that going away from Jersey to Florida does - makes you appreciate Jersey gas prices! Down ther ethe cheapest I saw was $2.65. Oddly enough this was at the Hess station inside Disney World.

    Got back home and was immediately $.20 cheaper!

    Also found that while pretty thrifty on highways that Impalas get awfully thirsty around town!
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • 210delray210delray Member Posts: 4,721
    The southeastern states actually compete fairly well with New Jersey, according to Gas Buddy, with the notable exceptions of Kentucky, North Carolina, and Florida. These states, along with West Virginia, must have higher state gas taxes.

    When we drive to NYC to see our sons, we always fill up here in VA before we leave and then again in Jersey.

    Our RUG is still slowly drifting downward, to $2.48 at Hess and $2.49 at Sheetz.
  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    Sounds like we go up to Maine or New Hampshire. They both have reasonable gas but the states in between don't. We always fill up last thing before leaving Jersey. It's an absolute must to avoid buying in Connecticut.
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • jae5jae5 Member Posts: 1,206
    in prices to $2.60 for 87 octane. Most other places are running $2.68 ~ $2.70 for same.

    I have noticed my old fill-up station (Jewel) is now matching the Mobil and Shell in prices for each grade. Before they increased each grade in price by 10 cents with Mobil and Shell increasing by 11 ~ 15 cents between the grades. Now Jewel is running the same, an 11 cent increase between 87 & 89, 13 cent increase between 89 and 93, matching Mobil & Shell.
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    I was behind an F250 Ford today. His personal CA License plate said 10 MPG. Not sure if he was bragging or complaining.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    The refinery closing thread has been moved and a juicy story (it's a scam!) added to the mix:

    lemko, "How does gas at $4 and higher impact you?" #2176, 20 Nov 2009 8:15 am
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    I was behind an F250 Ford today. His personal CA License plate said 10 MPG. Not sure if he was bragging or complaining.

    I'd say bragging. Last time I filled up my '76 LeMans, I didn't even do that well! :blush: On a brighter not, looks like fuel prices dropped a bit around here. I think 87 is down to around $2.55 in places, and 93 down to around $2.85.
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,023
    ended up having four cars come due for a fill-up. Did my '67 Catalina on Tuesday, LeMans on Wednesday, and today I did my '85 Silverado on the way to the bank and than, miracle of miracles, I got my '79 NYer to start, so I ran it up to the gas station to fill it up.

    The two Pontiacs hit me to the tune of about $45 apiece. Pickup got me for about $43. The NYer was the most painful, at around $53, but the last time I put gas in it was in June!

    As for pricing, gas went back up a bit. $2.899 at the Citgo for 93, $2.919 at the Shell. And today, I hit one of each, as gas stations will sometimes give you a hassle if you try to use your credit card more than once in a short amount of time.
  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Member Posts: 9,372
    We had a day where the price went up 2 cents then down 4 cents about 4 hours later. We've slipped to $2.69 here in Happy Valley
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Had to fill up the van this morning:

    $2.73 regular (pricey, and the durn pump was slow. The bicycle cop rousting people in the alley made the wait easier though. :)

    $2.87 for mid-grade
    $2.97 for premium

    $2.95 for diesel. That's a little bit bigger differential over regular than usual.
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