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Steve, Host
targettuning, It sounds like your calling me a liar? I do not take kindly to that! I don't know you, and you don't know me. I'm just stating the facts as I know them, so lets keep it civil.
On a regular basis, I got 20-24mpg around town, & 24 plus on the highway with my 2002LX 4WD 2.7 V6 Crystal Blue Santa Fe, here in rural upstate NY, near the NJ, & Pa border, the roads are fairly level, speeds 30-50mph, with occasional traffic lights. My SF was stock except for 4Qts of Quaker State synthetic blend oil 10-30W, winter, 10-40W summer, plus 1/2Qt. Marvel Mystery oil, started at 3K miles, & changed every 3-5K miles. The worst I ever got during a cold midwinter was 17mpg.
On one occasion, coming back from Charlotte NC, to upstate NY, after visiting my stepson for Thanksgiving, we stopped to get gas in Dublin Va at a Marathon station, and my wife took over the driving on Rte#81North, just her, & I, and a coupla suitcases in the Santa Fe, no A/C on, traveling at 70-80mph using cruise control, at the next gas stop we were surprised,& pleased, to find we got 27mpg. We joked about the fact that maybe that Marathon station was out of the twilight zone,,, lol. Upon my return, I immediately went online to the Santa Fe forum to brag, and that was that.
1 year later, the same scenario, on the way back from Charlotte NC, just after Thanksgiving we stopped for gas at the same Marathon station, in Dublin Va. (if you knew the SF, the short cruising range took us back to the same spot for gas usuall) anyway, I took over the driving, and being a more agressive driver then my wife, I never dreamed I'd do better, never the less, all conditions the same, again driving 70-80mph using cruise control (to keep from overspeed, and getting a ticket) I drove till I was beat, some 200 miles, then stopped to fill up, we were shocked, & amazed to find we got 30mpg! I found it hard to believe, but there it was in black, & white, I said to my wife, "Nobody's gonna believe this?" We joked again, about that Marathon gas station being like something out of the twilight zone!,,, lol, So, As God is my Judge, these are the facts. Again I went home, got online at the Santa Fe forum to brag, and also to friends, neighbors, & relatives, at the time. Since then my wifes sister, & husband, bought a clean used white 2002 SF LX like we had, and regularly gets 24mpg on the highway, due to our high praise of the SF.
Anyway, to fast forward to last Thanksgiving, the same scenario again, This time the trip with the new 2005 LX 4WD V6 Tucson, the same syntheic oil in it, about 3K miles on the odometer, we happened to need gas on the way down, coming up to Dublin Va, so we headed for the same Marathon station at one of the rest stops, But, it was closed! I thought it was out of business, but apparently just getting a renovation of new tanks, so we got gas across the street. Well, to sum it up, I was LIVID because, the best the Tucson could do at anytime during the trip was 20mpg!?!? On the way home, I actually temporarily removed the air filter on the thruway, it didn't make a Damn bit of difference?! You can bet I went home got online, and stated my tale of woe at the Tucson forum. I had, have, friends,neighbors, & relatives, who ask me "how do you like the new Tucson?", I don't know what to tell them?,,, then they ask, "So how's the gas milage?" You know what I tell them?,,, "Oh, we're still breaking it in!" Yeah, Sure, 17K miles, and still breaking it in,,, that's a joke!
Finally, I never had a vehicle that didn't get at least 4-5mpg more on the hiway then around town, till I met the Tucson, I never should have traded my Santa Fe for the Tucson, but I figured with the same drivetrain, and being lighter, & more Aerodynamic, the Tucson should be peppier, and do even better on gas milage. At 17K miles, I get a respectable 20mpg around town in rural Pa., and not quite 22mpg on the hiway?, except for once. This is using the same synthetic oil, a recent K&N air filter, and the (air filter) plastic intake air deflector removed from the upper right side of the radiator support. So, are you a believer yet targettuning, I know what I got, Mike
The standard deviation is probably somewhere in between so it's not out of the question that someone could get 30 mpg.
tidester, host
"Am I calling you a liar? Nope, not necessarily, if you really think you are getting 30mpg, at 80 mph no less, good for you!"
targettuning, I don't "think" I got 30mpg, I got 30mpg! So, in essence, you are still calling me a liar, or storyteller. Do you think I made up these facts? just for your benefit? You are sadly mistaken, because no matter what you think, you're not that important to me! Regardless of how high you hold yourself in esteem as an authority on Santa Fe gas milage.
(Quote by targettuning)
" And I certainly AM keeping it civil since I am simply expressing my opinion backed up by practical experience with not one...not two...but three extended experiences with these...well, admittedly one I rented and only had it for the week-end but managed to put 500+ miles on it all highway. I drive in more or less rural Pa also...utilize I-81...the Pa turnpike ...I-80 (with the rented '05) drive at about 70-72 max, never overload my vehicles, all were bought new so maintainance was not an issue, all had cruise which I always use. I also have a 2006 Honda Civic and it returns about 36 mpg highway so nope I don't believe it"
There you go again, stating my facts are "unbelievable", isn't that the same as calling me a liar? again? Did you ever figure maybe I had a tailwind, or maybe my vehicle was good, and loose, from wear in, along with, and caused by, the lower friction synthetic blend oil, plus the fact that it had at least 50-60K miles on the odometer, before the long trips.
(Quote by targettuning)
" I DO believe the 24 mpg highway your sister-in-law gets on hers because that is on the upper edge of what these return if driven reasonably"
I see,,, So, because this agrees with your line of thinking, it must be right, er,,, "believable"
By the way, don't you have a shorter nickname then targettuning? It is not only a mouthfull, but a real drag to type, and spell correctly. regards, Mike,,, or, MikDee, either way, it's easy to type,,,
Steve, Host
Looking for comments on actual towing experience-within MFGT
recommendations. Such as any overheating to engine or trans.,going up moderate hills,etc.
I'm contemplating a 4wd 2.7,and would be towing a fishing rig on occasion and that at not very long trips.
Also looking for a true hwy mpg with same equipped Tucson. By true I mean mileage,say btw 2 gas fill-ups on the interstate at 70 mph--not towing,and driving style with gas economy in mind.
Thanks to any one who can help.
There's a few people on other forums, that I've been to, that say the Tucson is great for towing, in fact one guy from Australia, that tows a 3,000 camper with no problems.
link title I would venture to say that the Tucson is a Great vehicle, but gas milage is not one of it's strong points, all else however, make up for more then it's shortcomings. I think you'll find gas milage to be in the 20-22mpg avg. highway range, under the conditions you describe. By the way, I just installed this one by "Hidden Hitch" to tow my Jet Ski around, The only thing showing below the rear bumper plastic fascia is the reciever. link title Best regards, Mike
I currently own a 2002 Santa FE GLS 2.7L AWD and looking to possibly trade in the very near future. Gas mileage in it has been acceptable, given that it is an AWD SUV. I generally average around 21 MPG in everyday driving. More impressively I have managed 26.5 MPG on the interstate cruising at 65-70 MPH with the A/C running on low.
From what I have read from other postings, the current Tucson powertrain would actually yield lower figures. I currently have a VERY GOOD deal worked out for a 2006 Santa Fe GLS 3.5L AWD. My only hesitation in finalizing the deal is the gas mileage. I am not sure how much of an impact this chassis will have on gas mileage. Also there is a lingering thought as to what the new powertrain in the 2007 Tucson might offer. If it were to offer significant improvement then I would likely opt to wait and buy it. Unfortunately Hyundai is not exactly forthcoming with any details and the dealership is more interested in moving what they have now.
Preliminary pricing puts the Santa Fe SE AWD in the neighborhood of $25,695. Though this is on par with the 2006 model, it is likely that the incentives will be deeply cut back as with other all-new Hyundai models.
I am not really against the 2007 Santa Fe, I am just not overly-impressed with it either. I will admit that the powertrain has improved substantially in all categories though, based on preliminary reports.
Right now I have a 2002 Santa Fe GLS 2.7L AWD. According to the books trade value is somewhere from $9,500 to $10,000. The dealership is offering me $11,000. The 2006 GLS 3.5L AWD with moonroof is sticker-priced at $25,930. The dealership is offering to sell it to me for $20,000 after the $3,000 incentive and $1,000 loyalty rebates. This yields a $9,000 difference plus TTL, bringing the bottom line to $9,986.
I think that the Tucson is highly resemblant of the 2001-2006 Santa Fe body, only slightly down-sized. But I have also found that several postings on here complain about the gas mileage. They claim 20-22 MPG city and 21-23 MPG highway. I can only assume that Hyundai tried to offset shortcomings of the engine's power by changing the gearing in the transmission. This might improve acceleration off the line but kills the upper-end performance. This tends to turn me off to the Tucson since I can expect similar or slightly better numbers from the 2006 Santa Fe 3.5L AWD. However I am quite curious as to the impact of the newly-redesigned 2.7L engine being introduced in the 2007 Tucson. If it could yield better numbers all-around, then I would opt to wait for its arrival. Unfortunately Hyundai is not forth-coming with these numbers and nobody else really seems to know either.
Your may be confusing the 2007 Santa Fe for the 2007 Tucson when you say the engine is all new because the 3.3 liter in the redesigned Santa Fe is relatively new. It is the same as used on the current Sonata and IS a new size/design. I don't think Hyundai has plans to completely redo the 2.7 but I think they recently added variable valve timing. This, in my opinion, isn't a particularly fuel efficient engine for its size..we are talking about the 2.7 liter.
This is what sparks my interest in the 2007 Tucson. I may have been wrong in my wording regarding the 2.7L engine overhaul. I now realize that the introduction of CVVT was a definite and only assumed a re-work of the rest to go along. The CVVT would result in a better power curve but I am not sure how this translates into real-world performance. Would this add the much-needed power and negate the need for gearing the transmission up to offset deficiencies of the engine? And how would this impact the gas mileage ratings if everything else (including the transmission) remain the same?
Perhaps this is ultimately a choice between the lesser of two bads. The EPA ratings for the 2006 Tucson seem pretty well in line with the 2006 Santa Fe 2.7L. However several owners on here claim otherwise. Can anyone offer some real good advice and shed some light?
My current Santa Fe is stock aside from the K & N Air Filter. All scheduled maintenance has been performed as prescribed. I strictly use Mobil 1 Full Synthetic 5W30 Oil with the Mobil 1 Filter and Slick 50 at prescribed intervals. Perhaps this might play a small role in my
gas mileage figures. But I have a co-worker who owns a 2004 Santa Fe 3.5L FWD and claims 18-21 MPG city and 27 MPG highway (vacation trips).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na3PiFqFqF4
The engine though remains to be seen. I made several inquiries and came up empty-handed myself. Perhaps you will have better luck though. But I can offer a little insight for you and say that the 2.7L engine used in the 2007 Santa Fe is the CVVT version. I realize that the Santa Fe is a totally different vehicle than the Tucson. But the "new" 2.7L engine in the 2007 Santa Fe failed to produce phenomenal improvements. The 2007 2.7L did manage to bolster a few (and I mean a few) more ticks on the EPA ratings than the 2006 2.7L. I just would not expect to see a major difference in all-around performance from this powerplant in the Tucson. Keep in mind that several other postings on here complain of not making the EPA numbers for the current 2.7L equipped Tucson. My guess in the 2006 Tucson would be that Hyundai tried to compensate for complaints of sluggishness with the 2.7L by gearing the transmission up higher. This would improve acceleration from a stop or slower speeds but at the expense of performance at higher speeds and yielding lower gas mileage. Perhaps the CVVT will make a difference though in performance and they can drop the gearing. I really like the Tucson but an economical SUV it is not based upon the current information and powertrain. But then again, can anyone buying an SUV honestly claim that they are fuel economists?
I test drove a 2007 Santa Fe SE FWD. It was definitely a roomier vehicle and had a responsive powerplant. It had smooth and consistent acceleration but I would not go so far as to claim that it is a night and day comparison to that of the 2004-2006 Santa Fe 3.5L. It did feel more sturdy in the turns and had a very sharp turn radius. I was disappointed with the EPA ratings after all the hype over an "all-new, more efficient engine". In a 3.3L AWD configuration it managed to gain a whopping 2 MPG City and 1 (yes 1) MPG on the Highway. A word of advice to their marketing people, cancel this slogan. Overall I think that it will definitely win more people over to the Hyundai badge. I continues the Hyundai tradition of offering a lot for a "little". For the Hyundai faithfuls who are not impressed by it, the Tucson will remain a viable alternative. Personally I am still fond of the "original" and traded my base 2002 Santa Fe GLS 2.7L AWD for a loaded 2006 Santa Fe GLS 3.5L AWD. The incentives and the incredible deal I got was just too good to pass up ($8,600 difference).
Good luck in your search.
As for the gas mileage, check out the 2007 Toyota Rav 4. It has a 269 HP 3.5L straight gasoline V6 that manages 22 MPG City and 28 MPG Highway. Not to mention that it bares a striking resemblence to the 2007 Santa Fe, except for the spare tire.
Hyundai is planning yet another new SUV to be released later this year powered by the 3.8L engine. This will be a totally different model, bringing the tally to 3 SUV models. Check out some spy photos below but you'll need a translator for the wording.
http://autospy.dreamwiz.com/board/bbs.php?table=spyshot2&query=view&uid=989&p=1
Hyundai Tucson: MPG - Real World Numbers
Steve, Host
I am searching for new tires and in my area the pickings are rather slim. Firestone, Sears, places like that seem to only carry mostly higher-end tires and most of the independents around here don't stock the size I need. Two that do have some interesting tires though. One has Hankook Optimos and the other has Mastercraft Sensys by Cooper. Does anyone have any experience with these or can recommend any other reasonably priced brands? I normally would pop for the Goodyear or Michelin choices, but their prices and the home remodeling (over)budget nix those choices.
Thanks in advance!
Why bust your butt driving around? I've been using Tirerack (www.tirerack.com) for three or four years now and I'm really impressed. Their choices are great, shipping to your door is quick, and even with the $35 to $70 shipping fee for a set of four (it depends on size and whether or not you also ordered wheels along with the tires), it's still less than you'd pay at retail in a store. For example, I ordered a set of four great Yokohama tires for my Ford minivan from Tirerack. They arrived in my garage in four days via UPS. After paying for the tires, the shipping, and the mounting and balancing at my local tire store, the overall price I paid was still less than the price for a set of inferior Coopers (without the cost of mounting and balancing!). Check them out. And no...I'm not some kind of shill for Tirerack. I'm just a very happy customer.
By the way, the Real B.F Goodrich Traction T/A T, or H & V speed rated, are really one of the Best rated all around tires out there!
tidester, host
NEW FOR 2007
- Two new trim-level designations – GLS and SE
- New Platinum Silver replaces Sahara Silver as an exterior color choice
- Two new exterior color options available – Brilliant Copper and Dark Titanium Gray
- Dual-mode trip computers standard on SE and Limited models (late availability)
- Updated audio system with a digital tuner and improved display and controls
standard on SE and Limited models (late availability)
- Enhanced CD changer audio system including MP3 capability available on SE and
Limited models (late availability)
My elbow went through the top of the armrest when I was adjusting my position in my car and that's the spiel I'm being given by the dealer and the local Hyundai rep. Being of average height and weight I was somewhat offended. I didn't karate chop it or anything, just put my elbow on it and slid up in the leather seat. Makes me wonder what else won't be covered because "You broke it". Is this vehicle that fragile and delicate? It's a 2006 Tucson Limited that I've had a whopping 4 months with less than 5k on it. I emailed Hyundai's Customer Relations link from their corporate website a week ago and have as of yet received no response. :confuse:
Is this body roll common in all SUVs?
I wonder is any of you have compare this against other SUVs?
Thanks!
LAP7
I have an Elantra also, and I'm fully expecting a completely different ride when I purchase my SUV in the near future. I may be wrong, but I think you'd better expect the same.
I popped for the Mastercraft Sensys 01 tires (made by Cooper Tires) from a local tire shop. So far, they are significantly quieter and smoother than the departed BFG Traction T/A specs. They seem to have a fairly aggressive tread which will be fine for the winters around here and the tread life is rated at 620 and they carry a 70000 mile treadlife warranty (as useful as that may be). The price was reasonable ($83/tire) and they provided free mounting and balancing due to where my wife works. All in all, I think I will be satisfied with this choice.