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Y2K Chevy S-10ZR2 vs. Y2K Ford Ranger XLT Off-Road
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Also i went to local four by four shop to look at lift kit and they want eight hundred bucks for a four inch lift is this price accurate if if not brands and prices to look at
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unlike some of the horror stories I've heard others speak of. I've heard of some pretty costly repairs to the S-10's, but I never experienced any personally. But I also have a neighbor across the street with a 4x4 Ranger that is constantly in the shop with tranny problems and leaks.
Every manufacturer is going to have problems. Another friend of mine had a 99 Tacoma 4x4 and the head gasket blew and then after that the motor just seized up. I think he had like 10K miles on it and never had it off-road. He went to arbitration and got Toyo to buy it back from him. The head gasket problem is fairly common in the Toyo's too. So their not "bullet proof" either.
So ask 10 different people, and you'll get 10 different answers about what's the best or worst.
I say get the truck that suits your needs for the price you can afford and forget all the banter about whats better or worse. THere are no guarantees whenit comes to machines.
Just wondering what you and your significant other decided to do about the truck issue...
tacoma_trd -
Haven't heard from you recently. I fear we may have scared you off. Sorry if we did...
I am not sure if the only opinions they get from this truck are the few angry minorities who get pissed off if they have to change the oil in thier vehicles.
While my truck is probably not the best truck ever. At 99k it has been very reliable. I am happy. Yes I could sit here an [non-permissible content removed] about a plastic interior piece that pop off or I could [non-permissible content removed] about how hard it is to reach that damn oil filter. At a price of under 10 grand in 95 I feel this truck as been worth every penny.
Note: CHEVY S10 OWNERS GREASE YOU FRONT SUPPENSIONS EVERY 7500 MILES!!!!!
But don't you think it's possible that some people do indeed have friends that have had bad luck with a [insert competing model here]? I also think people that witness their friends having bad luck with [insert competing model here] probably use that info to base their decisions on when purchasing. I sure did. Whether that is an accurate way to make a
decison or not is subjective.
If you have friends/neighbors all with the same model vehicle and they all have problems,
are you going to go out and buy that vehicle? Maybe. But chances are you'd use that info to base your decision on since you actually know these people and probably trust their
assessments somewhat.
I had bad luck with a certian model truck and got the manufactuer to buy it back from me through arbitration. That was two years ago. This time around when I went to purchase a new truck I inquired to friends about their recent experiences. Non eof them had much to say in the
way of positive recommendations. So I figured not much had changed and I scratched that manufacturer right off my list.
Pretty valid, I think.
I was only speaking up because I've seen multiple posts like this on every board for every single make, not limited to Ford, Chevy, Toyota, Nissan, etc...
I've had a couple of GM products. The latest, a '90 Olds Cutlass Supreme Int'l, blew the head gasket and cracked the head at 75K miles. It was an inherent problem in the Quad 4 (especially the high output Quad 4 in my car) that I knew about. Well, I learned an $800 lesson.
The other was an '85 S10 Blazer. At 100K miles it was going strong (albeit a bit underpowered with the 2.8L V6 and bigger than OEM tires I put on) and looking like new (georgeous paint job at my uncle's shop) until I rolled it on X-mas eve. That still pisses me off to this day.
I would buy a GM product should it suit my needs and provide more value than other offerings. My family and friends who have owned GM's built in the last few years have had very little to speak of in terms of problems (neither have the Ford owners, as my family usually purchases "domestic" vehicles). I'm one of the quacks in the family who will buy just about anything (except a Quad 4 GM).
I am impressed by the handling, road manners, brakes stop on a dime, off roads better than my Tahoe and is solid reliable. Mileage is fair at 17 to 19 mpg. The 4.8L V8 would make this the perfect vehicle.
I love the looks; including the 2dr ZR2 blazer which I hear GM is not producing after 2000. Leave it to GM to cancel a vehicle just when they get it right. But I'm a Chevy man; with a '98 Vette too.
My friend has a Ford Ranger 4x4. Nice truck (America makes the best trucks) but the ZR2 is a step above. All I can say is test drive them all and do your homework before you buy.
The little flipty-doo did teach me to always have safety as a prime concern. If I had been driving our other car at the time, a Corolla, I would have most likely flown through the windshield. But, it probably wouldn't have happened quite that way either being front wheel drive and all.
I hear ya about the scratches. I cringe when I look at the passenger side of my truck with a couple of significant dings from inconsiderate a$$holes in the parking lot. And, I had an Expedition appearantly back up onto my front bumper of my car then just drive away. Well, I think it's about time to head to my uncle's shop for some repairs. :oD
We have talked about the possibility of the S-10 getting the 4.8L engine. The general consensus seems to be that yes, it will. However, the S-10 will probably be moving up to a midsize (like the Dakota) in the process. I think what many of us would like to see is a V8 in the S-10 or Ranger in their current compact size...
We've all wondered why GM or Ford don't offer a V8 in these trucks. One possible explanation might be this: Over in topic #1821, the folks were bemoaning the fact that they can't get the 6.0L V8 in the Silverado 1/2 ton (man, talk about power hungry!). Anyway, an argument was put forth that that GM can't do this because of CAFE reasons. Perhaps GM and Ford have the same problem with offering V8's in their compact pickup's. I have no idea if this CAFE reasoning is valid or not. Any opinions?
Contrary to popular belief, you can't just slap in a bigger engine without having to do major modifications to the truck, including the suspension and drive-train.
I would love to see a V8 in a compact truck. If it's available with 4wd, I'd be waiting at the front doors to put my name on the list.
Anyway looks like next year will be the last for the current body style S10, wonder if it will get any extra horsepower to keep up with the Ranger.
-in addition to the other reasons you guys have mentioned, I think another reason auto companies haven't put V-8's in their compact pickups is because of the price factor. probably the majority of compact pickup buyers are foregoing a full size due to the price. if you add a V-8 to a compact, the price will be almost as much as a base full size. guess we'll just have to keep dreaming of a day when chevy announces they'll be dropping a 350 in a ZR2!
eagle63 also brings up an interesting point. If you want V8 power, you have to go with a full-sized F-series. I'm sure the F-series pickups are more profitable than the Rangers, so Ford wouldn't want to cannibalize sales to a less profitable vehicle.
Thanks for all the input on the V8 issue. All of your points are well taken. Oh well, I guess we can always dream, can't we? Let's speculate a bit. It seems that the 4.8L would get the vote for the S-10. How about the Ranger? Which V8 would be the best choice? Any preferences?
Another interesting choice would be the 3.9L V8 out of the Lincoln LS producing 252hp and 267ft/lbs of torque. Given the Ranger's roughly 500lb weight advantage, the engine should motivate the truck quite well. Also, it shouldn't add much additional weight to the truck than the 4L V6. And, it would probably get better mpg than the 4L, somewhere around 17/23 city/highway.
For those who just gotta have more than 200hp, check out http://www.rangerpowersports.com and http://www.homestead.com/therangerstation/V8Conversions.html and pop a 5.0L V8 in there pronto!
Just my thoughts.