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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
    No sooner do I post that I haven't noticed a new Prius than I got a good look at one this AM. From a distance it looks like a Civic but closer it resembles the Gen II Prius or a latter day Citroen DS (not a bad thing.)

    I also saw a new Challenger from behind, probably the angle from which it most resembles the '69-'70. Not bad but too damn big for a Pony car.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,408
    This weekend I have seen 2 new Camaros, a new Fusion (delivering pizzas no less), several new Prius, a couple new Insights, and a trophy wife in a new Quattroporte who apparently stalled it when pulling out of a driveway.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I saw a Legacy 2.5i, with paddle shifters and that new CVT. 31 mpg highway, yowsah. Not bad. Our Forester gets 5 fewer mpg with the same engine.

    Also liked the interior, though I like the exterior more than you did. Reminds me of the G37, in a good way.

    I don't like the Outback's styling as much as the Legacy sedan. It's more 5 door hatchback now, less wagon, and I think it would be more practical if the rear glass was more vertical.

    A loaded up Outback 3.6R Limited was $34k, which is entirely too close to the price of the Genesis 3.8 sedan with tech package ($36k) that was sitting right next to it (the dealer sells Subarus and Hyundais in the same bldg).

    Sure, it's a Hyundai, but I'm impressed every time I sit in one, and that was probably the 4th time. My wife sat in it and said "Wow AJ", and couldn't hardly believe it was a Hyundai.

    So color me impressed with the low $20s Legacy, but at $34 grand I'd like to see thicker carpets, fabric wrapped A-pillars, and more padding in the dash plastics (the Hyundai had all that plus real leather on the dash).

    Basically you get a lot more value at the starting prices, IMHO.
  • boomchekboomchek Member Posts: 5,516
    Insight. My mom got one as a loaner while her Civic was being repaired after her accident. I drove it around the block, pretty funky car. Gets a lot of looks too according to mom. She likes it so much that she doesn't want to give it back.

    Also saw a new TL in black. Still an odd looking to me but I warmed up to it a bit.

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  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Member Posts: 4,277
    Saw a couple of new Outbacks, a BMW X6, couple of new Mazda6's and Ford Fusions and couple of those hideous Nissan Cubes.

    Also, 3 of my neighbors around me brought home new Tundras in the past month. :surprise:
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,408
    Not new, but I saw a nice grey C63 AMG yesterday. What an exhaust note.
  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,595
    No kidding; fake wood panels on the sides. Please tell me this isn't a factory option.

    2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv. (RIP 2001 Jaguar XK8 cnv and 1985 MB 380SE [the best of the lot])

  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Bet you it's a $995 dealer tack-on. How tacky.
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    ...red Kia Soul this morning at Bingham St. and Robbins Ave. in NE Philly.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,105
    I saw a red Soul, too, on the wayto work. Sharp looking little car. Toyota needs to hire that designer for the next xB. What a disappointment that was! I didn't mind the size, etc, but the looks are a major turn-off, compared to both the original xB and the Soul.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    And how about a window between the C- and D-pillars again? Sheesh.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,105
    "And how about a window between the C- and D-pillars again?"

    You haven't heard about the world-wide glass shortage? Why else would all the carmakers turn out cars with windows the size of a Post-it? :sick:
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Seriously. I know glass is heavy but this is getting ridiculous.

    I also hate the gun slit windows with virtually no view out. I can't wait until that trend dies, just like tail fins.
  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    Hey! I like tail fins......

    I'm in agreement with the folks that like teh Kia Soul better than the other cube cars out there. They got the look right.
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Yep, inside, too. The center console looks like the back of a snow board. Very neat, and the right look for the target demographic.

    This one is customized a bit:

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Well, the inside on the Soul we looked at was so disappointing we didn't bother to try to find anyone to let us test drive it. Didn't think we could live with the materials after comparing with similarly priced cars (xD, Fit, etc.). I've only seen the outside of a Cube but I hope their plastic is a bit "softer" or better "textured" inside.

    And I'm a snowboarder. :shades:
  • boomchekboomchek Member Posts: 5,516
    I was actually more dissapointed with the interior of the Cube than the Soul.

    The Cube is totally boring and cheap looking inside imo. Much worse than the Soul which I acutally liked, so if you might be in for a dissapointment.

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    I may have to take another look at a Soul but so far the xD is still looking better inside. The Cube was fun to look at outside but we're more interested in a hatch than another box.

    Someone please holler when they spot a 2010 xD in the wild. Or even on a transport truck. :)
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,408
    I saw a new Impreza wagon/hatch whatever today, as a co-worker bought one. Blue, moderately equipped, nice enough little car.

    Not brand new, but I also saw a fairly recent (2002+) 7er that was smoking like a chimney - kind of a mix of black and blue smoke, an unpleasant grey. I bet that's going to be expensive.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    They're a good value for the price. You can get an Outback Sport, for instance, for mid/high teens money, and it's got heated seats and a roof rack for your bikes or kayak.

    A loaded Fit, Cube, or Soul cost more and all are far less substantial.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,408
    The one I saw stickered at just over 20...but it is a "premium" model with deluxe wheels, roof, and a few accessories. Still not too bad, I sat in it and it seemed put together very well, although the plastics were a little hard.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    $19,428 for the only one currently in stock at Fitzmall. That's not sticker, though, it's the no-haggle price. I've seen Cubes for more than that.

    Thing is, Cube is trendy and cool, but let's face it, it's based on the $9995 Versa platform. Paying more than double for the trendy look is a bit much IMHO.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,408
    I'd much rather have the Subaru over a Cube. The 5 door isn't too hard on the eyes, it has interesting engineering, and should hold its value, at least in my area.

    Trendy gets old fast. PT Cruiser and xB come to mind.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I think it's OK to buy those as long as you don't pay too much.

    Remember when the PT Cruiser came out, some dork paid $25k for one on E-bay?

    What is that car worth now? What's the scrap value for that much metal? :D
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,408
    I remember many dealers were asking (and getting) 25K+++ for loaded PTs back during the hype days in 2000. Canadian dealers were selling their allotments to the US, as the demand was so huge and the greenback was stronger then. Insane, now that car has to be worth less than half what a similar priced car from the same year is worth today.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Worst depreciation ever.
  • ajvdhajvdh Member Posts: 223
    But my son did: Up in the same neighborhood where the Ford GT, Gallardo and 430 live, he came up behind what he first thought was a gunmetal gray Elise. But something looked a little different. Then he spotted the badge: "Tesla".
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Seems like it always come back to the mpg hit. The OB Sport gets 22 combined, 27 highway. The Cube and Fit CVTs get more than 27 combined.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    I just drove around in a new PT Cruiser today. Totally wrong for my body type but someone shorter and 50 lbs lighter would be good in it.

    Still get around 30 mpg on the highway with a stick and it holds a fair amount.

    Drives kind of piggish though. Imagine how could it would have been if they had bothered to update it.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Well, 2.5l plus AWD.

    Subaru needs to put the Legacy's CVT in there, that gets 31 mpg highway. It would be competitive even with AWD.

    I also think Subaru should offer a 2.0l entry-level Impreza, but I won't hold my breath.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    That's good to hear - I didn't think any Subies were rated for over 30 highway. (Not counting the Justy of course.)

    I've hit 30 a few times on the highway on my '97 Outback but it was mostly the high 20's on my road trip a few weeks ago over to the coast. I did hit a couple of roads that I didn't see any Prius's on too though.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    We can squeeze out 30mpg out of our Forester, but you gotta keep speeds down.

    Think about it, though - their entry level engine is a 2.5l. That's big!
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,408
    My mother had one of those for a rental after her Corolla got smashed - she is 5'6"...and hated it. But, it was mainly for ergonomics (window switches especially) and how it didn't seem very well assembled.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    Oh yeah window switches are in a stupid place on the dash.

    I usually like sitting well off the floor as that is how rover seats are but in the PT cruiser it just felt weird. My arms are short too so it is a long reach down to the shifter.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,408
    The second day she had it, she pulled up to a drive-up mailbox, and couldn't find the switches. She had to get the manual out to find them. Drove her nuts.

    Now her grandma-white Camry suits her perfectly.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,408
    I saw a Genesis today. Black with black tinted windows, which isn't my cup of tea. They exist! :shades:
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    I saw two sat on my way home from work on the same road going the opposite direction.

    One was kind of a grayish color and the other silver.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,427
    Little commercial vehicle.. Looks a little like a mail truck..

    First one I've seen on the road..

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  • gussguss Member Posts: 1,167
    I just saw a Genesis coupe yesterday with the new tag in the window, unfortunately he had just rear ended and old Blazer. He must of either been going to fast or checking out all the new gadget on his new car.

    He did not hit hard enough to total it, but hard enough that I would not want it back.
  • fushigifushigi Member Posts: 1,459
    Sounds like he was turning his cash into a clunker. :P
    2017 Infiniti QX60 (me), 2012 Hyundai Elantra (wife)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Coupes are still rare around here, but I see a sedan or two just about every day.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,408
    I still rarely see the sedans and I have seen literally 2 or 3 coupes on the road. Maybe it's my area.
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    ...orange Dodge Challenger on Street Road in Trevose, PA. Also, a coworker just bought a new Chevrolet HHR.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    My wife calls that the Clown Car.

    Offer him or her my condolences... ;)
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,408
    I'm in podunk today...I've seen a 2010 Fusion, a 2010 Mustang, and rarity of rarities, a Genesis coupe.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,427
    Pretty hot car right now.... Not sure why VW had to make the rear-end so frumpy... especially since they did such a nice job with the Passat wagon..

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  • boomchekboomchek Member Posts: 5,516
    The previous Jetta wagon was actually much better looking. This one reminds me of a Saab.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,408
    In podunk this morning I saw a Genesis sedan, and a Cube - the latter of which made my mother react the same way she did to the original xB - something about it looking like a Soviet car.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,427
    New one... gunmetal gray.. I know the owner. He's had it a month, but it's the first time that I've seen it.

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  • iwant12iwant12 Member Posts: 269
    Saw a gun metal gray Lotus Elise yesterday in Burleson, Tx. I've never seen one up close before. Pretty cool little ride. Looked like it could drive right under a SUV or a pickup and not scrape the roof!
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