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Meredith
The Owner's Manual doesn't mention the first oil change as being different than the others, saying to go by the Message Center indicator. I've read that it's good to do the first oil change at 1000 - 1500 miles to remove whatever metal filings are floating around. Opinions?
Also, (and I've read the other forums on this, too) what do you guys think about synthetic oil?
Thanks!
Meredith
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Ray T.
Ryan
Ray T.
Bottom line, most change to synthetic at 1st oil change (approx. 1-2K miles). Smartest investment you can make. The thing that gets me is people who whine about the cost of synthetic oil after spending $30K on a truck. ummmmmm, the engine is pretty important.......TAKE CARE OF IT!
I tried to convince the wife to get a Silverado for herself instead of the Stang Convertable....but she is a Mustang girl and wants her Cobra Convertable....oh well..whatever makes her happy...
(even tried for a WS6 Convert or SS Cam.Convert...no go)
Hard to believe I've had this 2500 8.5 months and almost 14K miles!
Time flys when you are having fun I guess?.....
Wifes Uncle works for GM and he has an 1500 LS 4 door...took it for a ride...forgot to ride with windows up to see how interior noise compares with 3 door..
next time..
- Tim
There is so many different opinions on using synthetic oil, I'm not real sure of the perfect change over time.
Jeff
I will go with ceramic coated headers or the JET-Hot coat. I will still have some time before I do purchase them but would like some suggestions of a good brand to go with. I am going to be installing a 50 series single in/dual outlet Flowmaster muffler/K&N airfilter/Hypertech Programmer and eventually the headers. Also,will I run into any problems with these modifications? Will this extra power strain my truck in anyway? I want this truck for a long time and do not want to sacrifice its condition just to burn some tires. Will I need any other modifications to go along with these... Thanks again
*~Teaboy~*
- Tim
Ryan
Anyone see the stooges movie??
"I can't see!!..Why?...I got my eyes closed!"
- Tim
CAB LIGHTS- I like the new cab lights on the 3500 series the two on both sides and the large one in the middle but i wouldnt put them on a 1500. They look good on a work truck.
UH OH 5 DAYS LEFT!!!
Oh found out about insurance today
Ryan
miles, For last month been sitting in the garage.
Has anyone had the message center recommend
oil change on a light driven truck.
If any out there. Wondering
if computer still keeping calculations.
Don't put to many mile a year last truck 86
el camino which is parked next 2000 racked
up about 100,000. 86 is all original except
for belts,hoses, maintenance items.
Ryan,
i didn't say you were saying anything bad?....but i don't recall you talking about the 2500 times..
oh well
long day tomorrow..
C-ya!
- Tim
TODD- Didnt you put on your husky mud flaps??? How are they doing??? Did you get any pictures of it yet? Let me know thanks
Ryan
If we use the logic some of you are trying to apply to oil to gasoline then the following would be true. "Let the engine break in using 87 octane until 5,000 miles, then its ok to use 93 octane."
Get it?
All new Corvettes come from the factory with synthetic oil. Are you implying the rings will never seat? Obviously the rings are seating or the vehicles wouldn't pass smog tests. And some percentage of vehicles get pulled off the line and tested. And they have to pass when new. And they do pass.
The equipment that engine manufacturers use may not be the same that rebuilders use and that may account for a rebuilt engine needing a break-in before running synthetic. But it is not neccesary for a new truck/car.
I run the vehicle 5-600 miles and drain the oil, change the filter and run with synthetic. No problems with ring seating. Even if I were going to stay with conventional oil I would drain it at 5-600 miles in case some debris was inside the engine. It is a remote possibility, but old habits die hard.
Mike L
I know, I dislike them too but this seems like a good time to contact one.
Selling a repaired vehicle as new borders on fraud. Chrysler paid millions in fines for doing the same thing a few years ago. If this dealer has a history of doing this you may be able to get punitive damages.
Also contact GM and register a complaint. Also the state Attorney General's Office.
Good luck,
Mike L
Comparing regular oil to 87 octane was a stupid comparison, by the way. For the typical person it goes the other way: If a car was designed to run on 87 and runs fine on 87, why not use 89 because it will run better? Why? Because it DOESN'T.
I am switching to synthetic, but for the typical driver in the typical environment changing every 3000-5000 miles, it won't make one bit of difference.
We ran Havoline 10/40 in my old '67 Camaro for 180,000 miles before pulling the engine for a rebuild. Oil was changed every 4000-7000 miles. Not only was there very little wear in the bores, but there was no sludge. And that was back when oil was still API SE or earlier.
Richard
A lemon is a messed up one from the factory with things wrong....GM has no responsibilty here...it's your dealers fault.
- Tim
if you're concerned for others not getting ripped off, you need to post a way to contact you. don't feel bad about naming the dealer here. nobody can punish you and you can help others out by helping them avoid this dealership. additionally...like tim said, because it was wrecked and then sold as new it's not a lemon. it may be fraud, but only if they told you it had never been wrecked. in addition to contacting a lawyer and your attorney general's office, contact your local better business bureau (you can usually find them in the phone book in the business section or yellow pages) and you can search for the one nearest you on the internet at www.bbb.com if this dealership has made a habit of "unethical dealings" the bbb should have record of it. if not...be the first to report it. lastly, you can avoid this type of problem in the future by requesting the dealership show you a copy of an authorized vin # check, or run one yourself on the internet at sites like www.carfax.com note: vin # checks are not a catch-all method. they will only report incidents (damage, theft, etc) which were reported, and hence, a record generated on that vehicle's vin #. my $0.02
kyle
OIL CHANGE / SYNTHETICS, ETC. - New or rebuilt engines are built to be within specs! That means there will be some variation in bore, size, shape, etc. from engine to engine. Does anyone here think the factory can maintain tight specs and still mass produce? (I have some oceanfront land in Arizona I would like to sell!) Each engine would thus take a different amount of "break-in" to seat rings, etc. Average may be something like 3000 miles or whatever. The point is that with reasonable care, based on average use, the difference between synthetics and regular oil probably will not be noticed! Regular oil changes are probably the cheapest insurance you could buy, synthetic or otherwise. If you are more comfortable with synthetics go for it!
Don't worry. Be happy.
Watch your gas mileage and when it levels out your engine is broke in. Then make the change.
This debate is really selling me on synthetic oil.
Think about it... so many people recommend not using this stuff untill your engine is broke in (not just on Edmunds) because your engine rings and bearings won,t seat properly due to wear.
It must reduce friction and engine wear pretty good!
Ryan
reaches maximum fuel mileage, i must say that is
about the most common sense way of puttin it.
understood what you meant about diff' octane uses
also. whoever said it was "stupid" (back a few
post) needs to go back to school of common sense.
just my nickels worth.
...RED
>post) needs to go back to school of common sense.
Hey. I resemble that remark.
Here's why it makes no sense: 87 octane will not hurt an engine made for it; regular oil will not hurt an engine either. If you're going to change oil every 3000-5000 miles anyway, don't bother with synthetics as they will give you absolutely no benefit (unless you live in a severe climate). Oil does not need changing because it is dirty (all MY cars and trucks have oil filters, and I don't use Fram), it needs changing when the viscosity additives break down and the oil stops doing its job of lubricating the engine.
If oil needed changing when dirty, Amsoil (arguably the best synthetic on the market) wouldn't be able to offer no charge engine warranty protection with 25,000 mile changes.
As to the arguement about waiting to break in, that was a problem back in 1973 or so when Mobil One first came out. It has long been "fixed." Check the info at Mobil's web site about the research into the product and why you can use it from day one.
Learn a little about oil and engines before arguing about oil.
Richard
intented, it's just that bluebeast has the right
idea about when to switch, seeing how ther'es
alot of doubt still floating around about this
subject. not to argue with you but there have
been cases where guys went to synthetic too soon
an began using oil. went back to dino for a few
thou' more then went back and everything was
fine. the corvettes (had 2 brand new ones) are
built alot different than the truck motors. if
not, Chevy would be replacing 'vette motors all
the time you don't get into a 'vette and go 55 or
slower for 500 and then punch it. trust me i've
been there done it.
so relax dude, you're not wrong but Bluebeast has
the right idea.
...RED
breaking a new Beemer in on the autobaun at 55?
you'd really need rear airbags then. ha, ha,
...RED
It's like high speed rated tires on my Ma's Lincoln...no..she will not be going 140MPH...but the higher rated tire rides better at 60 than the 80MPH rated tire at 60.....(bad comparison..but you get the idea)
faster Flow rate when cold...and the ability to break down less while at High RPM..aka highway for a substained time...are two reasons for me to get Mobil 1...even with 5K oil change intervals..
As for Oil filters.....GM Delco filters are rated some of best around. Besides...if you DON'T use them...you void the warranty.
- Tim