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Turns out, I won that bet. I only put about $250 into it along with about two hours of work, and it was running like a top. Another $600 for new tires and I was good to go.
Andre-mobile
Period colors
Sad ending
Odd survivor
Never really became collectible
Nice 1970s Avalon
Euro SLC with period colors
Optimism will help
Once on every block, now seldom seen
Go broke in style
Far cry from an Outback
A different kind of bustle
Owners of these always aim for the stars
Stude lives on
Always was impressed by those seats, few of these on the road
Not seen much anymore
Nice looking W126
The slant to the speedometer numbers made me chuckle
Don't store your car outside
Finish this project
Cute tin can
Hard to believe these are over 30 years old
Yo Adrian
What a great ad
The '83 Continental is nice, too. These were always my least favorite of the bustlebacks, but I'm finding that I like them more and more. I think part of it is that I see them less often than an Imperial or Seville. And, one thing in the Continental's favor is that it had fairly good drivetrains. The 302 V-8 was always decent, as far as I know. I guess some of the earlier 4-speed automatics could still be troublesome, and I've heard air suspensions could be problematic...and expensive. But in contrast, the '81-83 Imperial had finicky fuel injection, and the Seville, after 1980 at least, was stuck with either a V-8-6-4, Diesel, or aluminum 249.
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
Lincoln seems like a deal for $2K if it starts drives and stops. I also notice it has digital dash.
(pics show how the color looks in different light)
I was thinking they might be too wide, but if they are, it is marginal, maybe 1cm.
2016 Audi A7 3.0T S Line, 2021 Subaru WRX
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
If the RX7 is as nice as claimed, its a bargain, IMHO.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
I think the whitewall is maybe 1cm (say 1/4-1/3 inch) too wide, maybe intended for Pontons. Probably nobody but an expert would notice this, so I shouldn't sweat it. My car is also a 220SE, not a lowline 190D or something, so they fit in. Also, W111 fintails are 1959 cars, made for several years later but virtually unchanged. The tires fit that time period, they do have some blackwall - not all the way to the ground like earlier tires.
The tires on this link look similar to mine (pamphlet from 1959-60)
Some period images of wide whitewall fintails, from a book I bought in Germany:
And the cover of a DVD I bought at the MB Museum:
This claim still give me a smirk:
The car has P185/70R13, which is the same size as the old tires on the car that dated back from when I was a student and Clinton was president. I see there is a P175 tire with a slightly narrower whitewall - I wonder if that narrower tire would have fit.
Parts or project?
1968 Mercedes 300 SEL
2016 Audi A7 3.0T S Line, 2021 Subaru WRX
But seriously, likely a parts car, and for the right price, a good one as it looks complete. Looks like it has super rare accessory rear headrests, those with the Euro lights could nearly be worth the asking price. That would be the kind of thing I would rescue if I had a big building for storage.
If this were a '67 Jaguar MkII 3.8 four-door sedan it would be sold so fast there wouldn't even be a need to advertise it.
The 300SEL is a rare car--another example of how rarity does not always translate into value.
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/cto/3648826937.html
Guy is down to $9k asking price on the SCCA forum.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
I can buy it and get it towed to our local indy Benz mechanic where he can take his time and mess with it and make it running but even if the repairs to make it a runner cost me $5k I still think it would take me forever to find a buyer not only at a break even price of around $6k but at a price where I can come out ahead on it.
So even if I put it at $10k it would probably be tough getting rid of it, even to an MB enthusiast as for $10k there are so many other quasi collectible Benzes in nice shape that one can buy.
I guess the worst case scenario would be the air suspension that might require new hosing, compressor, airbags?, plus if it sat for years then new fuel injectors and other related componensts, an full engine rebuild maybe?
2016 Audi A7 3.0T S Line, 2021 Subaru WRX
These 944 turbos, when properly equipped and in the hands of a skilled driver, can still give a new 911 fits on a road course.
So yeah, maybe from SCCA will bite on this, as "good bones" for a track car.
As for those planning to use this as a street car, we all remember the old rule: "Whatever gets you into a car cheaply when you buy it, will come back to haunt you when you sell it".
That salvage title hangs like a sharp sword over the car--if you put in lots of need mods and make it a great street car, then you'll never see your money out of it.
I hope you have a fedora you wear while driving it.
I was looking around today, here's a fintail with the same tires:
And a highly restored one in Germany:
Nice to see some others who have the same. I was a little concerned that the tires aren't 100% identical to OEM, but they might be as close as one can get for a radial tire.
Now I have an urge to have the steering wheel restored.
What's the make and model of that yellow truck?
82 Mark VI
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
It does look like a pretty nice car, though. I wonder how quick it would be with that Mustang drivetrain? IIRC, these cars actually weren't *too* sluggish for the time to begin with.
Now you've got this one that isn't original and has needs and not a great interior. Not exactly a desirable engine swap, IMHO. Not the most reliable nor very powerful. Did he say how many miles on that engine? I didn't notice. That would, of course, be important to know. He's already down to $4k, which I think is top of the mark if it was done well, no rust, and runs like a top. I'd personally feel better in the $3500 or less range... again, depending on how it looks/drives in person.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
I really like this. Just not at that price. Shifty, you have an opinion on this one? If the paint and body were real nice in person... I'm thinking $6k-7k?? Anyone know the engine in this one? He just says big block. I'm not seeing evidence of a big block being available back then. Looks like 352 was the largest possible.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
We have a modified car here, with paint chips and a rust bubble at the vinyl roof border. The engine burns a bit of oil. This is probably a #3 to 3 minus car, and at best a minor collectible. I'm thinking that the asking price is a bit high, and that the market will finally dictate a price of 3000--$3500, presuming a test drive does not reveal a worn out rattling clunker of a car. We do not have detailed engine bay or underbody shots, and if this reveals shabbiness, then the price drops another $500 at least.
60s pickups are gaining in value, no doubt about that; that being said, this particular truck, as shown, has some downside. We don't know if the engine is a 352 or 292, and we have no idea what it looks like under there--now why would be expect a seller to advertise a 'big block" and NOT SHOW IT?!!! :surprise:
Also, 3-on-the-tree is a negative and scrubs value---right off, you lose 1/2 your buyer base.
Also I see some mickey-mousing here---bad tailgate fit, rust on the wheels, custom steering wheel.
Just "taking a whiff" of this truck, without seeing it, I'm going to say the asking price is too high, and that right around $7000 sounds right for it.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
If you are "in love" with a car or a brand, you'll never be completely objective.
We all have our biases, but that's usually harmless unless we are the buyer---then we can get stupid. :P
what I really want is a mid 70s orange Chevy step side Walker Evans special. Street version of this. I still remember the article in car and driver about it.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.