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  • scape2scape2 Member Posts: 4,123
    You mention the offroad pkg. What gearing do you have 3.73 or 4.10? This will make a difference in MPG. Are you running larger tires? 13.5 is low, I would think you should at least be getting about 17-18 on average. The pinging is a TSB if I remember correctly. Try 89 octane gas this also seems to help.
  • dpbassettdpbassett Member Posts: 6
    I believe it's the 3.73 gearing. And I have the factory tires, the Firestone Wilderness P245/75Rx16.

    The pinging noise doesn't seem to be coming from the engine compartment. It's coming from beneath the cab, leading me to believe that it could be the transfer case or transmission. Not like I know much about engines/transmissions, but that's my best non-educated guess. I'll take it in one more time and see if they can spot something and get back to you. Thanks for the info.
  • eharri3eharri3 Member Posts: 640
    The truck was fine except I found the wind noise to be way worse than what I expected... my '95 Regular cab is a luxury car by comparison. Did I try out a model with leaky weather stripping or something or do many '01 owners find the wind noise to be high?
  • dpbassettdpbassett Member Posts: 6
    Scratch that, I meant my Ranger has 4.10 limited slip. How does that affect the mileage?
  • david6david6 Member Posts: 75
    My '01 is as you describe, and I do find a lot wind noise, and tire noise, too. However, yesterday afternoon I picked up my cap, and it seemed like the wind noise was reduced a huge amount! I'll have to drive it some more to confirm, but it makes some sense as far as aerodynamics. Probably just my imagination, though.

    Actually, I think a big problem may be the seal around the rear doors/front doors interface, which may be letting in a lot of the noise. Not gonna mess with that, though. Was the model you drove the supercab?
  • eharri3eharri3 Member Posts: 640
    it was a supercab. leaded with stuff like cruise, 5 speed auto, 4.0 V6, and stickered for 18,600.
  • jdr944turbojdr944turbo Member Posts: 15
    My former 2000 Ranger 3.0L with Trailhead package started pinging at 5K miles. Pinging would only cease when using 92 or 93 octane fuel. 89 octane was not sufficient. This only compounds the poor fuel economy problem when you're paying $1.50/gallon for gas.

    Honestly you could operate a F-150 with a 5.4 liter engine cheaper, since they run fine on 87 octane.

    Sold my Ranger with 8500 miles for $11K and glad to be rid of it. I suggest you do the same.

    BTW, I am a lifetime Ford man. I feel though that the Rangers, for the most part, are false economy. The cost of admission is low, but the cost of operation is high. More for high octane gas, poor fuel economy, same insurance cost as a big truck, and the agravation of all the problems. And the large depreciation, oh boy! (There is a reason for the $1000-$2000 or more rebates they're offering. I found out the hard way).
  • scape2scape2 Member Posts: 4,123
    Your truck is very low geared. You have the rearend made for towing and the more heavier duty work. This explains why your mpg is not that great. With the 3.73 rearend you could have squeaked another 2-3mpg out of your truck. I have a friend who has a 3.0 5spd 4x4 SC Ranger with the 3.73 limited slip rearend and he averages about 20mpg.
    Rangers are a great value. I don't see how you can compare a F150 to a Ranger?? Tell me where you can get an F150 absolutley loaded for 18,888??
    You may not get great resale but you also don't pay a whole bunch at sale if you know how to deal.
    And F150 sure doesn't fit too good on the trails where I go. I have seen many large trucks stuck because they couldn't turn around or were just too large to fit between trees or rocks..
  • jdr944turbojdr944turbo Member Posts: 15
    Yes, I do agree that if you need the small footprint, the Ranger has an advantage. I certainly see that with my '75 Bronco or my former '86 Bronco II. The smaller vehicles do go places that larger vehicles can't. And the small turning radius advantage can't be overemphasized.

    BUT, for most people who purchase small trucks, the driving factor in the purchase is price. But the initial cost is only an advantage if you end up satisfied with the vehicle in the short term.
    Buy a Ranger and need or want to dump it a year or two later, you pay a big depreciation.

    Buy a full size US Truck or a Toyota, they hold their value. For instance, a Tundra 4WD Access Cab limited can be purchased for between $26-$28K, before taxes. (OK, no leather) BUT, you'll probably be satisfied for the extra $8K and you can just about ask your original sales price a year later, if you want to sell. The difference in cost of operation over the long term is negligable, probably less for the big truck since it will probably more reliable.

    Is it worth the extra $8-10K to get the bigger truck? It is to me, now. This may not apply to you. Only relating my experience so as to let the community get one more opinion.

    In the end, it's your money.

    Rangerless in GA.
    (Now driving my old '66 Mustang - Forgot how much power a properly massaged 289 had!)
  • fishhuntr1fishhuntr1 Member Posts: 2
    Anyone have first hand knowledge if a '99 Ford Ranger 4x4 with 5 spd auto, pushbutton 4x4, can be towed behind a motorhome without disconnecting the driveshaft or adding a trans pump?

    I've had several 5 speeds with manual trans/transfer cases. They tow fine. Am looking at a newish truck, but need to be able to tow it on occassion
  • scape2scape2 Member Posts: 4,123
    go over to Kelly Blue book and compare a like Tacoma to a like Ranger and you may be surprised on resale.. Also, hate to break the news to you but the F150 does not hold resale that great. There are so many of them and with the gas prices the way they are they are a dime a dozen now.. I guess it all depends on what you need. I don't need a huge truck, it serves me no purpose. However if I had a large camper or large boat a large truck is a must.
  • don98don98 Member Posts: 4
    (ref 328) Finally talked dealer to change the drive shaft after taking truck in 4 times. The "bump" has stoped when I stop. If having the same problem keep after the dealer. This seems to be the fix for 99 rangers/B series trucks.
  • frey4frey4 Member Posts: 30
    just for the record, i have a fiberlass ARE brand cap on my 00 ranger, 4x4, extended cab 5 sp auto [4-dr. cab]. the addition of the cap DEFINATELY reduced wind noise. it also has given me just under 1 mpg in added mpg, apparently due to streamlining. i can't seem to tell how much noise gets in around the four door seals ???? but the cap has evidently eliminated noise from turbulence beind the cab.
    can one of you guys recommend a replacement 15 inch tire to exchange for the stock Firestones on my Ranger, which i cannot seem to get balanced ? [ironically, they want to shake the most at about 60 to 66, right where i do most of my driving]. i am thinking of a Michelin product: any suggestions here ??
    i am looking at 225 x 75 x 15.
  • rm13rm13 Member Posts: 46
    Rated #1 by Consumer Reports a few years ago. I'm sure there's something newer and somewhat better, but these tires are reasonably priced.
  • bcollisonbcollison Member Posts: 24
    I am thinking about a Ranger S/C. Can you put car seats(for upcoming baby) in the back? Don't care if it would be 2 or 4 doors. Please advise.
  • steveeaststeveeast Member Posts: 158
    No, you should not install a child seat in a centre-facing jump seat - as per the Ranger Owner's Manual.

    Steve.
  • dannygdannyg Member Posts: 131
    Does anyone have a 2001 Ranger with the new 2.3L? Comments? What sort of MPG are you seeing?

    I've got an old V6 Ranger 4x4 that I'd like to trade in this spring for a new 4cyl. I'm just tired of getting 15MPG around town and I don't do a whole lot of off-roading. So I'm looking at getting a 4cyl 4x2.
  • edwards14edwards14 Member Posts: 1
    Can a child seat be put in the side-facing back seats of a ford ranger extended cab?
  • whackowhacko Member Posts: 96
    I just voluntary repossessed my 00 Ranger 4.0 and I have to admit, I'm relieved. The payments were too high anyway and the darn thing drank way too much gas. Good riddance!
  • triple_deke1triple_deke1 Member Posts: 60
    NO!!! There is not enough room on the jump seat. You have to put it in the front and turn off the airbag. I was also looking into a Ranger and have a baby on the way. I went with the Dodge
    Dakota Ex Cab because you can put a seat in the back.

    TD
  • cookwcookw Member Posts: 12
    Hi everyone! I have searched for the message on this board but can't find it. I read a while back where Ford is reworking the Ranger from the ground up for 2002, but can't find anything out about it nor have I seen anything in any of the mags. Does anyone here have any current info on this?
    Thanks,
    Bill
  • scape2scape2 Member Posts: 4,123
    a Ranger can use fuel. Please remember these are trucks and not cars. The way they are geared, tire size and whether they are 4wd or 2wd can make a huge difference. Trucks are not made to be areodynamic like cars. Trucks are made to tow, haul, pull a load. The manufacturer makes sure the truck can do the work you may ask of it. Trucks don't make good commuter vehicles.
  • vubsvubs Member Posts: 14
    but: still no 4-wheel disc brakes, old analog instrument cluster w/lots of needles (not to mention owners' complaints about the fuel gage), definitely wind noise on top/back door seals, no map lights, no full floor console, and i hope i can get dealer to switch out firestones, especially the 15" spare (that some are claiming to be recalled tires ford is still using since you are only suppose to use them on a limited basis). btw, what difference is there between leaf springs on top of the axle v. below the axle. man, i don't know if i can live with all these issues. silly me, i should just get the zr2 chevy. what do ya'll think? thanks!
  • ripgrifinripgrifin Member Posts: 2
    Would anyone happen to know the part number for the replacement drive shaft on the extended cab ranger?
  • lisbeylisbey Member Posts: 21
    Hi everybody. Just found this site over the weekend and have been reading like crazy. I just test drove a "99 Ranger tonight--auto, off-road package, power windows and locks, DC, air, cruise, tilt, 24,000 miles, 3.0 V6, step side, bed liner, extended cab, very clean, body in great shape--$17,500. Is this a decent price? Are there any serious problems anyone has had with this vehicle? I know for a fact it's been on the dealer's lot since Christmas so I'm sure that price would come down. Actually, I wouldn't buy it if it didn't. I've read some issues about flunking, pining, etc. but did not hear anything out of the ordinary. I could hear the engine working to push the vehicle and could definitely see where the gas mileage would not be so great. I'm also looking at a new Mazda B-4000 on Thursday and am aware they are basically the same vehicle. I would appreciate any input from all you die hard pick up truck fans. This will be my first truck in 13 years. It's been awhile.
  • dpbassettdpbassett Member Posts: 6
    Thanks for your advice a couple of weeks ago about the sound emanating from under my Ranger. After two trips to the dealer and forcing a service manager to ride with me, they believe the transfer case is to blame. I'll let you know after they replace it whether the problem is solved. Thanks again.
  • dannygdannyg Member Posts: 131
    The 2001 Mazda/Ranger 4.0L engine is the SOHC engine used in the Explorer. It is MUCH more powerful than the OHV 3.0L. Personally, I'd get the new 4.0L (Mazda or Ranger) if I could afford it. MPG is about the same for either....bad by car standards but decent by truck standards (http://carpoint.msn.com/Vip/Engines/Mazda/B-Series/2001.asp).

    I have an ancient V6 Ranger 4x4 that keeps going and going and going...
  • scape2scape2 Member Posts: 4,123
    This sounds a tad steep. Here in my area they are selling 2001 Rangers 4x4 SC 4.0 SOHC pretty well optioned for 18,888 new!! I would also opt for the 4.0 with an automatic transmission. The 3.0 is ok, but may take some getting used to for lack of power. As always there are ways to boost the power but it may cost you about 2-500 bucks to get another 20HP out of the 3.0..
    I would offer about 16K and see what they say if you really like the truck. The 3.0 may lack power but it is a very reliable engine overall.
    I know once you get behind the wheel of the new SOHC 4.0 in the Mazda you won't want the 3.0..
  • hciaffahciaffa Member Posts: 454
    In my area of CT that really isn't a bad price. Ive got a 98 XLT basiclly outfitted like that one. The 3.0l is a good strong engine but lacks some horse power. Be carefull of the pinging problem that some 3.0l engine will have. Take it out for a ride and try driving up a hill without to much gas letting it load up and see if it pings. If you go after the Mazda it has a good engine,new design, but be carefull if you go after an older Ranger or Mazda with the 4.0l they tend to have that marbling engine noise that many are complaining about.
  • lisbeylisbey Member Posts: 21
    for the info on the Ranger. Actually, for the Detroit area, Kelly BB puts it at $17,700 retail. I would definitely offer a lower price. I did drive a new B400 yesterday and LOVED IT!! The extra power in the 4L made a huge difference. I did feel the 3L laboring quite a bit. I haven't bought yet because the only B4000 they had was black. Not my color. Supposed to get 15 new ones in in a couple weeks. I'll keep reading and let you know what happens. Right now it looks like the Mazda will win just because it's a couple grand cheaper than the Ranger for a new one. I've always been skeptical on used vehicles.
  • traindrivertraindriver Member Posts: 328
    I have a 94 B4000 with a cubby hole/storage area built in the center armrest. The hook that holds the lid down has broken off and (obviously) the lid will not stay closed now. Has anyone had this problem and what did you do?? Will I need to buy the entire center armrest?? It is covered in the same cloth that the seats are covered in and I am afraid that a replacement will be expensive and/or impossible to find. Super-glue isn't much help. Any suggestions??? thanks
  • jurp11jurp11 Member Posts: 8
    I was looking into buying a new Ford Ranger Edge 2 Door, flareside, 2x4. My question was how much would this run me. I have looked and looked but everywere has different prices and I just dont know. Also I was wondering if anyone new how much I would be getting off since I have the A plan. Well if anyone could help me I would be very thankful because I nedd as much help as I can get.
    Thank You JP122985@aol.com
  • davidb72davidb72 Member Posts: 174
    My latch is getting real sticky now. (1995 Ranger), I hope it doesn't break off too. If mine does I'll probably find a way to seal the thing shut and just not use it anymore.
  • schaffs3schaffs3 Member Posts: 4
    Well, I actually own a Mitsubishi Mirage, but due to medical reasons, I am forced to drive my father's 1999 Ranger XLT extended cab. Is there anything that can be done to soften the ride a little, perhaps new tiers or softer suspension? I realize it's a truck but the thing is down right annoying in town. And any ideas on fuel silage? It's the 3.0 with the four speed, two wheel drive. Thanks in advance.
    Schaffs3
  • schaffs3schaffs3 Member Posts: 4
    The spell chekc took over for a second, I meant milage.
    Schaffs3
  • bluesmom3bluesmom3 Member Posts: 2
    I have been shopping compact trucks for 2 months. I settled on a 2001 Ranger Edge 4x2 3.0 ltr V-6 manual, and with what I think was a very fair price and trade in. Now that I have signed the papers to purchase, my husband raised several questions that he is concerned about. How is gas mileage in the 3 liter manual really? Is the bumper capable of towing up to 2500 pounds or is a seperate hitch suggested? I have a small camper, probably under one ton in weight that I will probably only use 2 or 3 times per year. Are there any problems that we should be aware of? I really want this truck, but life with an unhappy partner can be tough. Help me convince him it is a good purchase. Thanks
  • dannygdannyg Member Posts: 131
    Check out the Ford Media site, it has lots of info on the towing capacity of the various Ranger models:


    http://media.ford.com/products/make.cfm?make_id=92


    The bumper capacity is probably stamped somewhere on the bumper itself--it is often 2000lb irrespective of the towing capacity of the vehicle. When in doubt, get a hitch.


    My ancient 5sp 2.8L V6 4x4 Ranger gets about 19-20MPG on the highway, so I would expect a modern 4x2 5sp would get the rated 22MPG. However, someone else with a more recent 3.0L Ranger might be able to answer that question.


    Note that the MPG of pickups is very much affected by speed since pickups are not very aerodynamic (to put it mildly). Today's cars are pretty aerodynamic so going fast won't affect the MPG that much. Not so with pickups. Also, make sure to get a tonneau or cap if MPG is a concern.

  • sasquatch_2000sasquatch_2000 Member Posts: 800
    Hi. I am looking at a 1999 Ranger king cab 4X4 for 15,900 with 33,000 miles. Does this sound high to you?

    Also, the truck has 245/75R16 tires on it. Can you install bigger tires on stock rims? What is a bigger (taller) size for these? How big before needing a lift? What is a good lift kit for these for under $500-600?

    Thanks in advance.
  • sasquatch_2000sasquatch_2000 Member Posts: 800
    I meant to mention:

    4.0 litre engine, auto transmission.

    Have there been any problems with this truck?

    Anything I should look for/at on this vehicle?
  • treyh1treyh1 Member Posts: 34
    I've seen several references on the various Ranger sites that a hotter coil will solve the knock problem on the 3.0l. Where can I get a coil that will simply replace the existing one without mods? Does Ford make it, or is there an aftermarket that will work?
  • scape2scape2 Member Posts: 4,123
    has proven to be a very reliable engine. Granted its an old pushrod but it will last you for many years to come. It will easily tow 2,500lbs with a trailer hitch (about 99 bucks) to buy. Mated to a 5spd and in a 4x2 this truck will also prove to be relativly quick. The EDGE is a nice looking package too. I would say your MPG will be about 20-22 on average. The same as any V6 Minivan and better than many SUV's....
  • bluesmom3bluesmom3 Member Posts: 2
    Thanks for the feedback on the Ranger Edge. Most of his concerns have been answered, and I get my truck on Wednesday. I appreciate the assist!
  • davidb72davidb72 Member Posts: 174
    I removed them from my 1995 Ranger XLT because the chimes wouldn't shut up sometimes. Also, the interior light would not go out. Later on I was looking on the web and I learned that you can fix the problem by spraying into the door latches with WD40. If you are really interested in removing the chime it is located in a little black box behind and to the left of the radio (at least on mine). I had to crack that little black box open and rip it from the circuit board. I didn't mind doing that because I had just traveled from Harrisburg PA to New York City and listened to the chime for about 3 1/2 hours. At that point I would have liked to remove the chime with a 12 gauge shotgun! Good luck!
  • frey4frey4 Member Posts: 30
    Are any of you guys using SYNTHETIC ENGINE OIL (e.g. like Mobil 0-30 or Castrol Syntec) in your Ranger engines ? Does Ford have a recommendation on the use of this oil ? Has it helped improve mileage at all ? Do you use synthetic lube in the differential ?? iIhave been thinking about it and wonder what you all think. I have a 00 Ranger V6 4.0, 5sp Auto. Thanks: frey
  • lisa54lisa54 Member Posts: 11
    Has anyone had a problem with the check engine light coming on repeatedly? We recently bought a 96 Ranger with 47000 miles and the light went on after we filled it with gas for the first time. The mechanic checked the code and thought the gas cap wasn't screwed on correctly. He turned the light off and suggested we get a new gas cap if it came back on.

    Well, it came on after about 25 miles. We replaced the gas cap and brought it back in. It was the same code, so the mechanic turned it off and drove it to see if it would light up again. Of course it didn't until the next day. Anyone else have a similar problem or any suggestions as to what it might be?

    Any suggestions would be appreciated.
  • scape2scape2 Member Posts: 4,123
    with the gas cap. If the seal has been broken or cap cracked at all the gas tank cannot vaccum down. This will cause your check engine light to go on. These gas caps break easly and is not an uncommon occurance. Change the gas cap with a new one.
  • davidb72davidb72 Member Posts: 174
    Mine doesn't come on any more. I fixed the problem. The problem was the light bulb in the dash behind the spot that says CHECK ENGINE on the dash. It hasn't come on since I removed that bulb.
  • allknowingallknowing Member Posts: 866
    Didn't I see your post in the Zero Problem forum? I guess that's another one that you didn't want to mention.
  • davidb72davidb72 Member Posts: 174
    Actually I was the first post. I don't really consider that a problem. It certainly isn't a problem now!
  • scape2scape2 Member Posts: 4,123
    WRONG - I did post this in the Ranger vs TAcoma room bud... Man, I really did a number on you. You follow me everywhere, comment on everything I write. I will get you a patch for that "Toyota is god" bubble ok? Sorry you spent too much on your truck. Sorry I deflated your ego about the Tacoma with some cold hard facts..
    Enjoying that open axle?
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