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Diesel Fuel Economy and chips

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  • morempg4memorempg4me Member Posts: 1
    Is this the WORKHORSE module found at www.888luvdiesel.com?
  • 2500diesel2500diesel Member Posts: 1
    We all would like to know what type of chip it is!!!
  • jlyjly Member Posts: 1
    We all would like to know what type of chip it is!!!
    I have Dogde 04 RAM 2500 4x2
  • f250guyf250guy Member Posts: 9
    i have a 2004 f250 super duty 4x4 with a 6 litre diesel, and recently while idleing it will get so quiet i almost cant hear it. Then it comes back in 3 to 4 secs?
    please help#@$
  • drexeldrexel Member Posts: 1
    What kind of chip is it sir.... Thanks DREXEL
  • cptnbcptnb Member Posts: 1
    Just wondering what the chip was. I have 5.9 Cummins and have been looking for just what you described. If you don't mind sharing I would sure apreciate it. -J.
  • cherokeebobcherokeebob Member Posts: 1
    I have a 2005 GMC Duramax Diesel. I am interested as many others are of increasing my mileage. I have visited several web sites that state they can increase power, both on take off and pulling, I really do not know if this would help with fuel economy or not. Several of the websites do not list 2005 vehicles. If there is any one that can recomend a chip, or any helpful hints would be appreciated.
  • diverdon1diverdon1 Member Posts: 2
    I got the 2006 about 3k miles on it. All factory origonal, getting 15.5-16 mpg. I have a lead foot and cruse about 75MPH.
  • deiseldendeiselden Member Posts: 17
    :) I know several people who have Dodge 2004 & 2005 with the Cummins engines. I own a new 2005 with 14,000 miles on it and I average around 17-18 mpg. I have been told by all parties that you will get a mileage increase at 25,000 / 55,000 / 75,000 after the break in process. One of my friend has a 2004 that just hit 62,000 miles and he is averaging 24-25 mpg without a chip. However, I am impressed that the chip made a difference at 38,000 in taxspeaker's truck. I have to wonder though how much the chip helped vs. standard break in time? So, I guess the point to all people with an awesome 04/05 Dodge Cummins is this; you should still get a highway average milage of around 24 mpg when you hit the 75,000 mark, with or without a chip.
    *Another note for you 4x4 guy's; I have also been told that if you add lock-in hubs to your Dodge 4x4 you can gain 2 to 3 mpg. Actually I believe this to be true for all 4x4 trucks?*
  • deiseldendeiselden Member Posts: 17
    :shades: I have seen a lot of postings for mystery chips that know one will say the name of? I have been researching chips for about 4 months. However, I have yet to really get comments or feedback on which chips are better or worse than others? In short, here is what I have found: #1.)The Edge Chip - has an awesome digital monitor with 5 setting from 30HP to 140HP,expensive around $1,000 (looks rather difficult to install)!.#2.)Bully Dog Chip - opptional monitor and ranges from many different styles and prices, from $255 to $800 with monitor (seems simple to install). Also note item #1 & #2: Comes with an automatic dial down options so if your exhuast temps. rise to high, it will automatically shut the chip down until it cools. In my personal opinion this is a must for anyone who is going to put your foot into it or pull loads while dialed up! #3.)Quadzilla Chip - easy to install and is priced around $600. This also has dial settings from 30HP to 100HP
  • diverdon1diverdon1 Member Posts: 2
    If any one has a high performance diesel pickup truck, even one with just a chip or turned up injector pressure. You should take a look at the new Fluidampr’s introduced at the SEMA show. The factory harmonic balancers are not made to soak up the heavier harmonic torsional vibrations caused by these routine performance upgrades. Unfortunately the higher power output can lead to accelerated bearing wear, as well as the increased possibility of catastrophic engine failure. Fluidampr has extensive dyno testing to show how well their product works. If you one of these trucks you should
  • rthom1901rthom1901 Member Posts: 1
    I own a 2005 F-250 6.0 liter Diesel and want to install the Hypertech. Local Ford dealership tells me that it is already running at max boost and that this will cause the head bolts to stretch and more damage. Any truth to this? The dealer tells me that Ford has decided to void warranties on trucks running a chip. Any truth to this?
  • stonegstoneg Member Posts: 47
    I installed my Edge wearing a suit in roughly 5 minutes.
    I purchased it brand new still in factory packaging on Ebay for about $575. I installed the monitor a few days later in about 15 minutes (didn't want any visable wires). Took it to an accessory shop and paid them $65 to install the pyrometer. I did purchase the Banks cat back 4" stainless exhaust also on Ebay ($569.00) to keep the EGT down (not sure if it really helped or not).
  • coltechcoltech Member Posts: 1
    I am interested in the power module that you are using on your 2004 5.9l. What make?

    coltech
  • kubotamankubotaman Member Posts: 3
    Go to spdiesel.com They only sell top of the line products made in the USA.
  • orangeman89orangeman89 Member Posts: 1
    1st Diesel MV - I have a 2004 Ford Excursion 6.0 PS and wanted to know how to best maximize fuel economy. tow very little and when I do less than 2000lbs.
  • tom250ibstom250ibs Member Posts: 15
    Tell me please what the diferance between power pup and triple dog power pup???? I just recieved power pup. I haven`t downloaded it yet. Can it down load off internet like the tripple dog??? not enough info. was given to me. I also was thinking about leaving the juice hooked up but running on stock setting using its gauges and running the power pup. I`m awaiting response from bully dog. ANY ONE WITH ANY OPINIONS???????????????
  • nimrod75nimrod75 Member Posts: 1
    just bought a 2006 2500 dodge 4x4 cummins. will i get better than 13 miles to the gallon in the future or am i to expect this for the life of the truck
  • tom250ibstom250ibs Member Posts: 15
    I have an 2003 2500 with 250ibs cummins . When i bought it i went to find all information i could find it is (what iread in info.) get better milage after it gets broken in some where 2500-5000 miles. Thats 2005 info. Mine gets 22-24 miles easy driving hard driving 10-12 miles with 38000miles rounded off.Also with module..
  • tom250ibstom250ibs Member Posts: 15
    Well pretty interesting i down loaded power pup on performance setting first It was ok definitely not the juice!! but was good. I ran on extreme still not as strong as the juice i turned up the juice with the power pup together that is the most alsome setup. The clutch would not stick after it reached 2000rpm`s on up i did not think my dodge could smoke that much!!!!!!!!!
  • deiseldendeiselden Member Posts: 17
    You will get better mileage as your truck breaks in. I have been told and I am seeing the break in mileage improve. There are several supposed breaks you will receive at: 25K, 50K and 75K. I would suggest adding in aftermarket lock-in-hubs. I have been told you will gain 2 to 3 miles per gallons by doing this (I believe it; you are driving shafts all the time at the present). You can purchase these from many different distributors and are supposed to be fairly easy to install.
  • deiseldendeiselden Member Posts: 17
    I did not answer your original question in my last post. I have an 05 2x4 Dodge Diesel 15K miles and I am averaging about 19 MPG. My father has an 4x4 similar to yours, he is getting around 16 MPG. I here everyone talking about the 24 mark, but I have yet to see it in my ride? I sure hope I see it soon! I was averaging around 17 new and I have slowly noticed it getting better during break in. I am looking forward to the 25K mark, that is when I am hoping to see the 24MPG.
  • tom250ibstom250ibs Member Posts: 15
    Well, my truck is a 2003 with 250 not an ho 305, it has nv 4500 hd trans. it also had 245s (tires) it got 23.7 or 23.9 miles to a gallon. Now i did not run the interstates or freeways this was state highways /town/cruizing town /it had the muffler on it so there was no need to roar it around. Being you could not here it(i corrected since then.) I did run it up the mountian fiarly hard(about 5to 7 miles i think it is about 10 to15% grade not sure there. Ichecked it several times (8to10 times) I wrote it on the reciepts. Did i say its a reg. cab? well it is also base model but it`s true. Keep the diesel flowing!
  • duallydogduallydog Member Posts: 6
    Quadzilla is actually priced at $449.00 for the standard adjustable, $549 for the race, and $299 for the simple one setting XZT. And easy to install when you figure out how do undo the connections on the truck side.
  • duallydogduallydog Member Posts: 6
    I see people saying they are getting mileage in the mid 20's after installing a chip or power module, but is that hand figured or just what the mileage computer says or figured off of the fuel gauge?
    My truck says I am getting 23-25mpg but the best I ever got was 21.
  • tom250ibstom250ibs Member Posts: 15
    To tell you the truth i have 03 i did not know it had a milage computer? I put the juice and power pup together i`m guessing (i no longer fill tank up in hopes fuel prices drop next refuel) around 8 to 10 miles as i like to make smoke as often as i can expecialy when somone is up and under the bumper. It really makes them back off. But back to milage it was not with power add on. Asfar as how i check mine i topped the tank off all it would hold.What year is yours? it`s has got to hav all the bells.Mine is just base reg. cab straight drive. It took 6 years 2 pickups to find it used. finally did i guess .
  • duallydogduallydog Member Posts: 6
    Mine is an 04 SLT it has most of the bells and whistles. Yours being basic does not have the overhead mileage and trip computer.
  • deiseldendeiselden Member Posts: 17
    You probably already know this? I have found that if you reset the mileage meter after every refill of fuel, it remains very accurate. If you do not reset it after every fuel stop, it is running an average total of all the miles you have driven from day one. See if this makes it more accurate? My gage usually stays accurate +-.5MPG after re setting.
  • mtnhauler05d1mtnhauler05d1 Member Posts: 1
    dont know much about these but i got this one and i am real happy with it
    http://www.hotshothauling.com/wowbbs/view_topic.php?id=295&forum_id=87
  • duallydogduallydog Member Posts: 6
    I do reset my gauge after every fill up, and with my power module off it is accurate to within +-.5MPG as well. I know why it is so far off when my module is on, my question was how many of these posts saying, after a chip or module was put on, that they are getting mileage in the mid-20's is what the mileage computer is saying or it is hand figured by dividing the miles traveled between fill ups and the gallons used.
  • pompanopompano Member Posts: 1
    I have a 1999 Dodge Ram Quad cab, 4X4, Laramie 2500 diesel with 246,000 miles on it. Have never done any extras to the engine so far, but now would like to pull a 5th Wheel RV for a couple of seasons before selling the pickup or trading in on a new one. The trailer weighs about 14,000 lbs with all gear, tanks full, etc. What 'chip' or other features can I add to this engine to give me that extra power needed? In addition, can/should I do anything to the transmission/rear end? Thanks for the helpful info.
  • mercer3mercer3 Member Posts: 3
    I am thinking about buying an 06 Dodge mega cab Diesel, how has the cummins been from a reliability stand point ?
  • tom250ibstom250ibs Member Posts: 15
    Cummins compaired to what? tractor truck. I know to many people with 7.3 powerstokes not standing up to much towing. The only thing is i`ve read mercadies is going to stop on cummins 2007 i believe so get one while you can.cummins says it`ll run over 300,000 miles inbetween over haul. I think its the best motor on the market. After all cummins knows how to buildem.
  • duallydogduallydog Member Posts: 6
    The new Common Rail Cummins has not been out for long enough for me to get a good feel as to how long it will be reliable. The older 12 valve was as reliable as you can get, I have seen them at over 400,000 miles and the engine still runs good. My dad has a 24 valve that has 250,000+ miles on it and still runs good.
  • duallydogduallydog Member Posts: 6
    You can put on high flow air filters and exhaust, injectors, and turbo modifications. As for a "chip", I prefer power modules that go after the computer than a simple chip that goes in the computer and just increases fuel flow. On the 98.5-02 Cummins Quadzilla will have a $349 XZT towing module that adds 60Hp or $499 adjustable Xzilleraider that adds up 120Hp, these should be out by the start of the new year.
  • deiseldendeiselden Member Posts: 17
    I agree with everything tom250ibs stated! I have also heard the rumors that ALL the diesel truck motors are switching hands. The biggest rumor is that Caterpillar is coming into the ball game with one of the big 3 manufactures trucks. Caterpillar also knows how to build them (if they will build them in the US). My opinion on mileage is this: I would think you could easily get over 300,000 on a Cummins, if you take care of the recomended PM's.
  • tom250ibstom250ibs Member Posts: 15
    I know, i should be up on my news better, but who`s cat going with? I like cats also, not quit as much as cummins.
  • deiseldendeiselden Member Posts: 17
    Keep in mind that these rumors have been flying for several years. However, it is no secret that GM and CAT have been in bed together for quite a while. So my only guess is GM will bring it out, if it ever comes to the table? There is also small talk of International possibly coming into the picture. I love it, all these guy's know diesels, unlike 2 of the big 3 trying to make thier own diesels or contracting a Japenese (Isuzu-GM) to make it for them. If you search hard enough on the internet you can find some very small talk on this subject. Rumors, rumors, who knows if any of this will ever come to light? All I do know is this: I sure would hate to see Cummins leave, they have the best engine in the market place at the present! Hopefully worst case with Cummins, is they would switch over to another manufactures truck.
  • mercer3mercer3 Member Posts: 3
    Thanks I am thinking of buying a 06 mega cab pickup with the 5.9 engine, I have been impressed with what I have read. JM
  • tom250ibstom250ibs Member Posts: 15
    Check out Bd Forum Site. To tell you the truth i`m really impressed with my dodge, i`ve no regrets in buying that truck really like it, so i geuss i`ll say if you deside on one i hope you like it as much as i like mine. Merry Christmas!
  • diesel8diesel8 Member Posts: 3
    Need to return the Ford. This unit should be getting at least 15 average. Seems there has been some modifications that are reducing the fuel economy. My 2005 Ram gets 19 around town and 19 to 22 on the highway. Mostly 19.5 at 75+ mph. Under 70, 21.
  • diesel8diesel8 Member Posts: 3
    Sick Ford? MY 2005 Ram gets 13 to 14 towing a 23" twin engine offshore boat loaded with 150 gallons of fuel. Around town, 19, under 70 on the highway 21 is not out of the question. Power strokes and Chevys trend to get less fuel economy than the Cummins. I work for Diamler Chrysler and the Mercedes diesel in the Dodge Sprinter passanger vans will get 21 on the highway. I think Chrysler has got the diesel edge.
  • diesel8diesel8 Member Posts: 3
    The power train is all mercedes.
  • saltfeversaltfever Member Posts: 5
    Any one tried a super chip 3805 for a 2005 - 2006 Dodge 2500 with the Cummins? I have a an 05 and get 18.5 around town, 19.5 @ 75mph on the interstate. 14 mpg towing a 23' offshore boat. Also interested in the exhaust temps. My boat weights about 5500lbs and this is the heaviest load I would ever tow. I do know in 2007, the exhaust temps will rise on the class 6,7 8 diesel trucks due to the EPA regulations. Some exhaust temps as high as 1300 degrees. Not sure how this will play into the pick up industry.
    Jackie
  • cummins1cummins1 Member Posts: 1
    There is also small talk of International possibly coming into the picture. Internation already make the ford powerstroke and have done for several years and are now helping ford develop a new 6.4l powerstroke for 07. internation engine will never ever even touch a cummins or even a cat
  • deiseldendeiselden Member Posts: 17
    I installed my Quadzilla XZT2 last night on my 2005 Cummins,and boy does this make a difference! I immediately felt a huge HP gain when it sucks you against the seat. Here is the real kicker; I reset my mileage meter and made a trip of 48 miles city and highway averages. I usually average between 17 and 19 MPG. I was averaging 25 MPG last night! Huge difference! At this moment, highly recommended purchase. I will keep you posted if I see any problems or if my mileage falls off.
  • saltfeversaltfever Member Posts: 5
    I installed a Super Chip 3805 Last week and made a trip to Charleston S.C. Installed the power performance tow program and averaged 24.6 mpg down the hill at 75 mph and 23 mpg back up the hill to Charlotte running 75 plus. Very pleased with the power as well. Ran upon a slow vehicle and punched throttle to pass and thought I was loosing it. The shift pattern is more smooth and responsive.
    Diesel 8
  • stevelancestevelance Member Posts: 1
    Hey All I bought a new 05 quad cab 4x4 big horn edition cummins 5.9. LOVE IT. It now has 12000 miles on it. I put a two inch leveling kit on the front end and put 35 inch bfg mud terrain tires under it. I am putting the EDGE juice attitude and the quadzilla air intake on it I will let you know what kind of performance I get and fuel mileage I am getting with it when I am not driving it like I stole it.
  • copper3copper3 Member Posts: 1
    What's the secret? I have a 2004 Dodge 2500 with the Cummins and I average about 15.5 MPG at 75. I am running good pressure in my tires and the only weight I carry around is my front end bumper replacement grille gaurd. Currently my truck has 30,000 miles and I have not seen an increase. I have heard of people getting 20+ mpg without a chip and now have read it on the forum.

    I am about to sell my truck because of gas mileage alone. Please, what's wrong?
  • deiseldendeiselden Member Posts: 17
    I do know that a 2004 4x4 will average low mileage like this. If it is a 4x4, put locking hubs on it and add a Quadzilla Chip for around $299. I hope you are not selling this truck and buying a Ford for better mileage? Ford is the worst one out of all the diesel trucks for mileage (not ragging on Ford's, just a fact). I have heard that the Chevy Duramax can beat all of them on mileage. I am still averaging awesome mileage with my chip! I know it has taken me close to +5MPG. I pulled 2 1,400# steers with a 16 foot WW around 140 miles yesterday. I was still averaging 19 MPG (OD=18,565) 2005 Cummins. I also beat an old Acura off the line with the empty trailer behind me. (started smoking the tires and I let off)
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