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  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    But the O/D switch is to the left of the wheel. Not common for a car adapted from RHD to LHD.

    British style, but aimed at a LHD market? I wonder. . .

    Nash-Healey? Nah, couldn't be.

    Have we eliminated something on the order of an MGA? Couldn't be, not with those pedals.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,671
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    Now that looks like an XK150, to me...
  • wgraferwgrafer Member Posts: 592
    More like an XK-120 -- any relation to the "Andys120" sign-in board name?????
  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    We might, of course, split the difference and say it's an XK140. The seats look right, and the dash layout seems about right too. But I believe it would have to be the Roadster model, not the DHC as I thought earlier. The DHC would've had a wooden dash, wouldn't it?
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,755
    I thought of Nash, too. But couldn't find pics of anything that matched it. (they either have sills or running boards, it seems)

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,133
    Yep, looks like a 140:
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  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Actually, it looks like THAT 140! Good hunting, Texases.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,133
    Thanks. Here's what the listing had: 1954 JAGUAR XK140 MC ROADSTER - WHITE/RED LEATHER. CHROME WIRES. OLDER NUT/BOLT RESTORATION. NICELY PATINA'D. BOOKS AND TOOLS. $58,500 SOLD

    Here's where you can go for more pics, along with a lot of other interesting British iron: XK140 pics
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,671
    That's a bingo, Stephen 987. It's a 1956 Jaguar XK-140MC Roadster, a real beauty it is too, Dove Grey w Maroon Leather. The MC used the C-type head for an extra 20 HP over the standard car.

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    Note that there is no wood on the dash, I'm not sure any Jag XK's had it>



    About the apparent lack of sills, the frame rails are inboard of the bodywork which envelopes the frame>

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    Thanks for playing fellas. :shades:

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    That was fun....
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,504
    MK 1 Ford Escort ca. 1970...obviously a period rally car. I don't know about the registration though, isn't that the later type with the suffix?
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    It is indeed a Ford Escort, H suffix is Aug 1969/ Jul 70, but this particular car is a bit special because it started as an Escort Twin-Cam shell, was developed into the RS1600, and was then bored out to 1834cc, I've seen it called an RS 1850, but Ford stuck to the RS1600 title for this car - although they only had a handful with this set-up (FEV 1 -5H, etc).
    This particular one won the London - Mexico City World Cup Rally/Marathon, in 1970, driven by Hannu Mikkola and Gunnar Palm.
    As a result of that win, of course, a generation of boy-racers in Britain cut their teeth on Escort Mexico's, the street racer of choice for the day.
  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Note that there is no wood on the dash, I'm not sure any Jag XK's had it>

    Not to be argumentative on that point, but here's a pic from howstuffworks.com, purported to be from either an XK140 DHC or FHC:

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    Several websites I perused suggested that the leather dash was unique to the roadster model, and that the DHC and FHC had the wood dash and door caps.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,671
    No argument, now that you've shown it I recall seeing it. I think the woody dash looks a bit fusty compared to the leather dash. I know they didn't use wood on the E-Type, at least not the Series One 3.8 or 4.2. Those look like airplane cockpits.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Agreed. It's been a long time since I've seen one, but IIRC even the V12 E-type had a pretty spartan dash.

    The wooden dash in the XK drophead reminds me of the one in an R-type Bentley.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,671
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Does this friendly face hide a secret?

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  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Some new variant on a Citroen C1? Perhaps C1 CC?
  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    Citroen C1 Charleston, to celebrate the color scheme (and roll back roof) of the 2CV Charleston.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    Henney Kilowatt, an attempt to market an electric Renault Dauphine - by the ambulance/hearse manufacturer.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    The Charleston style Citroen appears to be a variant of the Pluriel
  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Bingo. It was the Henney Kilowatt, a joint venture between Henney Coachworks (hearse-makers) and the Eureka Williams Company (vacuum-cleaner makers). Insert your own joke here.

    The original version was capable of about 30 mph and had a range of about 30 miles. About 50 were built and sold, mostly to electric utilities.
  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    Well, it is a Riley. It's either a Riley Kestrel 1300 Mk II, or a Riley 1300 Mk II, which was essentially the same car but with a few minor interior differences, but from this angle you can't distinguish one from the other. There was also a Kestrel 1100 Mk II, but that had finished by the time the G suffix would have been applied, while the Kestrel 1300 switched to the 1300 in Oct 1968, (G suffix started 1st August).
  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Seven minutes. It's a Kestrel, at least according to the website wherein I found it. Well done, sir.
  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,671
    Citroen C1 Charleston

    Good guess Michaell but this particular car is C3 based so it is called the Citroen C3 Pluriel Charleston

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,671
    Intermeccanica Indra, 1970s. I wasn't sure if it was a TVR Tasmin or an Intermeccanica Indra but I recognized the background as being a Dutch dealership which advertises in classicdriver.com. A quick trip through listings for both makes turned up
    this listing. ;)

    Someday I'd love to go shopping at Gallery Brummen, maybe I could afford something in the "Toymuseum". :sick:

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Very nicely done, Andy.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,671
    Sorry,the first car is kinda blurry, the second much clearer, wanna take a stab at either?>

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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    First is a Gordon Keeble GK1, second is an Imp (either Hillman or Sunbeam).
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,671
    You're right on both counts Stephen. Color me impressed, the G-K is a real rarity.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,671
    ...by the creative way this owner made use of the excess chrome on this car>

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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    I think there were 99 GK's made, or thereabouts. I remember seeing it in a British classic mag (not sure which one--might've been Practical Classics) and wondering if it was the inspiration for the Peugeot 504. I know someone will accuse me of blasphemy for that one!
  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Is that a '58 Oldsmobile or a parade float?
  • jlbljlbl Member Posts: 1,333
    … or a parade float?

    LOL, they are about to sink. Watch the tires!!

    Regards,
    Jose
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,671
    Yep, 1958 Oldsmobile.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,671
    There is a strong resemblance between the front end of the Pug 504 and the GK-1, except that the 504 was designed around compound headlights which were pioneered by Peugeot and Mercedes>

    Peugeot 504 (UK Spec)>
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    Gordon-Keeble>
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    The GK-1 was a Bertone design but the 504 Coupe didn't have the same headlights, grille as the 504 sedan and wagon, possibly because Pininfarina who styled the coupe didn't want to be accused of aping a Bertone design, that would be blasphemy!

    Peugeot 504 Coupe, styled by PF>
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    And here's the Nigerian-market 504 sedan, evidently still in production.
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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,671
    Given the 504s popularity in Africa it's hardly surprising that they're still made there.
    No doubt the round headlights in place of the compounds is a cost-saver.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Sadly the US market never got the compound lights on the 504 either. DOT regs mandated the sealed-beam lights in either round or rectangular form here till about 1985. So all of the 504s and the early 505s came with quad round lights in the States.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,671
    ...and see if you can get the right year and model name>

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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    With those twin headlights, the Imp could be a Singer Chamois, too, and just above it's rear is a Ford 105E Anglia

    I always liked the Gordon Keeble - a nice car that deserved to succeed - they had a tortoise on the badge, which is a nice touch for a pretty fast car for its day...
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,234
    1802, from 1974 ? - the wheels look like that era, and the bumpers are before your safety regs went completely mad. I assume it's US spec, because of the repeater light on the front wing, as that doesn't look right to me...
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,671
    Nope, it's not an 1802, we never got that model here. The bumpers are too small for a 1974 model.

    The wheels are the Cromodora alloys offered as options on several US Spec BMWs as well as Fiat 124s and standard on the Fiat and Ferrari Dinos.

    That front side marker light is crooked, isn't it? :sick:

    If it helps I'm fairly sure the four headlight grillework is an aftermarket add-on.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    1973 BMW 2002--didn't they call the upmarket one without the tii engine "Luxus"?
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,671
    1973 BMW 2002--didn't they call the upmarket one without the tii engine "Luxus"?

    Close it's an early tii, the owner sez it's a 1971, which is odd because AFAIK the tii was only available in the US '72-'74. :confuse:

    I'm not familiar w a BMW 2002 Luxus, perhaps that was a Euro model that donated the 4-light grille to this example.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    I wasn't sure if I remembered it correctly or not. So I googled it and yes, there was such a car. But the only references I found to it were in miscellaneous languages I don't know how to read.

    And I'm not sure that grille belongs on ANY 2002.
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