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Also keep in mind if you get a stick and you do alot of heavy city driving your left leg isn't going to be to thrilled, or if you were to hurt your left leg your stuck.
Actually, no. I got good mileage right from the start. My first 4 tanks were all above 33 mpg. I didn't have a tank below 32 until my 10th tank. My first sub-30 mpg tank was when my car had a little over 19k miles.
I know that many people have posted here that their mileage improved as they broke in their engine. I have no doubt that that is the case, it just wasn't my experience.
I applaud your effort to practice. FWIW, I had only driven a stick a couple of times before I bought one... a brand new 1980 Datsun 200SX. I was so nervous I had the salesperson drive it so that I could head right out of the dealership driveway.
Yes, I stalled it a few times but you learn your car pretty quickly. The improved mileage is a great benefit along with fun, cheaper cost, more responsive, etc, etc. :shades:
I kinda new what your answer would be because over the years I've always heard the same thing that how the gas mileage would get better over time. I have been leasing at least two cars every three years since the 1980's and just like you said I never saw the gas mileage improve never, what ever I got from the first day is what I got on the last day.
I now truly believe that this is not true anymore with todays cars as it must of been 20/30 years ago.
Pak
It's a poEscort by now, but it'll do the job. Keep in mind I have nothing against Escorts, but his isn't worth near what he thinks.
All of my "city" driving is off-peak.
...your left leg isn't going to be thrilled...
That was another thing I've had to get used to. I drove my brother's 94 Corolla and I had to really lean into the clutch to keep it down. I'm sort of short about 5'8" and he likes his seat all the way back. I have to find a good spot to sit. My friends Mustang is perfect.
Rambling. Sorry.
Time rally shows how city mpg brings down the average. If you drive 65 miles highway and 15 miles in the city, then you might think you do much more hwy than city (4x more), when really you spent an hour doing each so your true ratio is 50/50.
Prattville, AL to Gulf Shores, AL (402.4 miles round-trip). 10.86 gallons. = 37.05 MPG.
I averaged 73mph on the interstate (I-65). Ran in mixed city driving for 95 miles of the tank, with a total of 6m 05s of total stopped time (per my Garmin GPS).
Have a great week everyone!
TheGraduate
when i top it off i hold the nozzle about an inch away from the entrance of filling neck, sorry, no chance of that gas jumping back into the nozzle.
If you dont fill up completely like this each time, you will NOT have accurate numbers. I learned to fill up this way from my father, so i dont have an anxiety attack if it takes me another 5 mins to completely fill it up, I do however enjoy knowing its accurate each time.
p.s. My old astro van held an additional 5.2 gallons after it clicked off, my current camry holds 2.2 gas. my Elantra holds about 2.3 gas, after clicking off.
So i'm assuming those of you who dont fill it completely up each time, have absolutely no clue what kind of gas mileage you are getting.
One last question?. what about the pump that is alot faster than other pumps, it will surely click off even faster, leaving even a greater lack of gas that wasnt filled up. Yielding an even greater error in your MPG.
Happy motoring
Later, Caaz
I drive about 84 miles each day. 54 is pure highway with some hills and the other 30 is a mix of city/rural. I set the cruise on 79 on the highway but I consistently get about 24.5 to 25.5 MPG. I have tracked every tank since I bought the car and it has been in this range each time. I'm really disappointed in the MPG's. I like the car but probably would not have bought the car had I known what I'm getting.
Thanks,
Gary
Acworth, GA
We have to turn them on manually when we respond to a call,they work great.
Have never heard of anyone flashing their lights to make them work.
There's your big problem. Not trying to sound evil. I'm going to guess that you are stuck in stop and go pretty much all day. Meaning that there isn't a whole lot of time of limited stop driving in the city. I know there are the semiphores which must be obeyed, but between the lights must be terrible.
Just for curiosity's sake, what sort of mileage were you getting in your old car, and what was your old car.
I'd suggest if you buy a stick shift, sell it yourself when the time comes.
I'd say your mileage is mostly being robbed by virtue of the fact your new model is significantly heavier than the previous and has a very wide brick-wallish, if you'll pardon the bad analogy, front end. It seems like a very bulky hunk of car.
I know that when I'm in the market for a new car the gen IX will be out and they may look better, to me at least, and may have better aerodynamics. It's all a case of two steps forward one step back when it come to auto redesign.
If you try to sell an automatic you are just another car. When you sell a stick people come from miles around to see your rare vehicle and often pay top dollar. Yes dealers will say they won't pay for a stick if you trade one in, but that is just one of many excuses they have for not giving you any money.
Also the stick saves money on gasoline, so that is a factor.
(and should a visit to our state capital occur, my offer of a drink is now on the record)
all the best, ez....
I've never had any trouble selling any of my manual trans cars for top dollar. They sold rather quickly too.
Besides, why on earth would I buy something that is more expensive, isn't as quick, gets worse gas mileage, and isn't nearly as fun (to me)? It seems odd to buy something I don't want in order to sell it to someone later. :confuse:
If someone told you that a manual had better resale value, would you buy one for just that reason??
But, of course, if I had a BMW Z4 or the new Camaro coming out next year, then for sure I'd go manual!!
I was talking about me, not anyone else. I'm well aware that I'm in the minority. The OP was suggesting that we should all buy automatics because of the alleged better resale.
Besides, I'm only 53 so I'm not even close to needing to relax my right arm... or my left leg. For me, "enjoying the machine" means using a third pedal. :shades:
I am always sort of amazed - after all the years - that so many mfgrs can't seem to get it right.
I will close by recalling what someone on these boards offered several moons back: driving an automatic was analogous to kissing one's sister.....................
all the best,ez....
I've been getting about 20 mpg overall for the EX-4 AT
Drove 497 miles on 15.17 gallons
Avg. MPG: 32.76
Ah, a poet in the group.
I didn't even realize I'd done it.
2008 Accord LX Sedan I4 (177hp), AT with just over 3,000 total miles.
I filled up at the same pump as before and filled until I couldn't put any more gas in without spilling over. There were 463 miles on this tank when I pulled into the station, and the SG read 31.7 mpg on this tank. I put 15.8 gallons in which yields 29.3 mpg by the calculator. When I did the fillup screen on the SG, it believed that the fuel used was 14.7 gallons. I tweaked the fuel used figure up to 15.8 and this indicated a 7.4% correction factor. If you apply the 7.4% correction factor to the indicated 31.7 mpg on this tank, it corrects to 29.35 mpg....wow....that's within 0.05 mpg. I believe I've got it dialed in.
BTW....this tank was about 80/20 Hwy/City and I paid $3.51 per gallon for the gas. Overall, I'm pretty pleased with the gas mileage so far. It's going to be interesting to see how it does when it has 10K miles on it.
Ken
From the EPA:
You need extra room in your gas tank to allow the gasoline to expand. If you top off your tank, the extra gas may evaporate into your vehicle’s vapor collection system. That system may become fouled and will not work properly causing your vehicle to run poorly and have high gas emissions. Also, Topping off the gas tank can result in your paying for gasoline that is fed back into the station's tanks because your gas tank is full. The gas nozzle automatically clicks off when your gas tank is full. In areas of ozone nonattainment, gas station pumps are equipped with vapor recovery systems that feed back gas vapors into their tanks to prevent vapors from escaping into the air and contributing to air pollution. Any additional gas you try to pump into your tank may be drawn into the vapor line and fed back into the station’s storage tanks.
"Any additional gas you try to pump into your tank may be drawn into the vapor line and fed back into the station’s storage tanks".
Remember the guy topping off his tank and saying his Honda's tank was 21 gallons and not 18.5? He probably just paid for about 5 gallons of gas to go back into the station storage tanks! :P
BTW....where I live, we don't have vapor recovery systems on the pumps.
Ken
Isn't that against the laws of physics or something. :P
Call me crazy, I just don't see the point in poking that extra bit of gas in there at risk for a problem; new cars are more complicated than cars in years past. Even on trips, I fill up when I get to around a quarter of a tank of fuel anyway; I'm never stuck in a jam worried about how much fuel I have. Plus, the 5-15 miles I might would get out of topping off just aren't worth it to me.
I just pump to the click. My results for MPG are consistent within 1 MPG for my regular commute (I use the same gas pump near my home).
All that being said, its your car and your money. Congrats on the good mileage
I have had others that went from 2-10 counterclockwise
In fact, my present car is an '08 Accord. My '04 S 2000 went from left to right, 3-9, with leds. No consistency even within an manufacturer!
On a side note my dashboard is completely different from the dashboard in the 06, I think it was a picture grad posted where I learned this.
I know with many manufacturers they have pretty much the same dashboard across the board. I know the gauge cluster in my mom's 05 Sunfire is virtually identical to the cluster in my brothers 95 Grand Am which is almost the same as the cluster from an 89 Grand Prix that my other brother had.
I know what does this have to do with fuel mileage.
I recently got 27 and I was doing a fair bit of speeding. I haven't really been trying to get the best mileage because sometimes it is just too much of a hassle.
Seriously, I had a similar device in our 1993 Dodge Intrepid and sometimes when coasting showed over 100 MPG. I hated to watch that darn thing when accelerating! I can understand your wathcing your MPG - but blue haired old ladies on your rear?! I have to give you credit - you have b's to admit that!
Have a good one...
You can sort of figure it out from there. This is a very cruddy retelling of the joke. I probably screwed it up.