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And additionally (I've asked this before, yet no answer), I would like to know about selling a pre-owned car (Versa) which has mechanical transmition. Would it be difficult? For example in California?
Thank you.
Now regading your question about the resale value of the Manual Versa.. I think I answered this before, but here it goes again.
In the last 10 yrs, there has been a slow movement to cars with automatic transmissions. Reason for this IMHO is, conveneice, its a pain in the butt to shift all the time, with how traffic has become. In Calif the freeway system is clogged at times and to sit with your foot on the clutch and move 2 oe 3 ft at a time is not convient. So as far as resale goes, a auto or CVT versa would be a better choice, but then again, there are some people out there that are die hard manuel shifter and that is all they want..
This is a personel call..
Tony
It's funny because I went to the dealer fully expecting to test drive and buy a 5-speed manual Lancer GTS. Turns out they didn't have a GTS Lancer with the 5-speed and the Sun and Sound package. Long story short we test drove and bought the Lancer GTS with the CVT automatic. My wife wants to get her driver's license driving our new Lancer and I wanted to buy at that time and not later so we did it.
It has the paddle-shifters on the steering wheel and cruise control on the steering wheel and you can paddle shift automatic 1 through 6 gears or just leave it in 'D' and move along w/o having to paddle shift. You can also go back down to 1 from 6th gear with the paddle shifters. It's the driver's choice. Audio controls are also on the leather-wrapped steering wheel.
Even though this is a Versa thread and I don't own one nor am I buying one I wanted to chime in on this subject. Most cars(90% of all sold cars)are automatic-trannied cars. It's a good resale business decision for down the road to get an automatic.
Anyhow, we love our new Lancer GTS and y'all enjoy your new or nearly-new Versa's, whichever tranny you choose or chose!
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
Thank you for your answer. I apologize if you had answered it before, I never found it.
I would say I am a “die hard shifter” since I learned to drive on manual cars, and “interstate” roads in my country are mostly in the mountains (lots of uphills and curves). Maybe that is why I like to feel more “in control”.
However, from dealers’ inventories I have looked (in CA) on Nissan’s website, ALL Versa SLs are CVT, which doesn’t leave much choice. I think I’ll follow your recommendation.
And thank you for you comprehensive answer about the RPMs.
Cheers.
Tony
Since it appears C/D's test loop is heavily weighted towards highway driving (an assumption based on the distance and the FE obtained in the test), maybe the CVT would do better in city driving, where the torque converter can't lock up as much.
However, the other result C/D obtained in the test is that the CVT is quicker than the AT--about a half second 0-60. So even if the CVT doesn't beat the AT in FE, at least you get better acceleration with the CVT.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
For those of you who've had them for any length of time, do you find the front seat comfortable? It was fine on the test-drive, but I wonder how it would hold up for long interstate drives.
And - not sure where to put this as there's no topic for it - but is anyone else interested in the upcoming Nissan Rogue? That looks like it could be just what we want - a smallish SUV that's good on gas mileage, has a roomy but not huge interior, nice levels of finish, etc. I think we won't buy anything until we see what that one looks like. Supposed to be out this fall, apparently.
My Versa now has 3000 or so miles. It is a CVT. I didnt like the feel of the manual or auto when I test drove. The CVT felt better so I went with it. It takes some getting used to but I like it now. It has a slight lag getting off the line, but then it really goes pretty fast. It automatically goes into a compression mode coming down steep hills and saves a lot of braking. It has great visibility and interior space. You sit much higher than most regular sedans. The gas milage in town is a flat out 25 MPG. It does about 29 MPG on the highway doing at least 70MPH. It is pretty comfortable on a 2 hour trip.
Likes: the Bluetooth cell phone system is really cool; the CVT seemed smooth and peppy enough for a small car; the padded arm rests were great.
Dislikes: the trunk/hatchback area was pretty small--smaller than the Focus, and smaller (IIRC) than my old 1988 Mercury Tracer 5-door hatchback. And the lack of fold-flat rear seats is disappointing. None of this is a deal-breaker for me, though.
I'm having a tough time choosing between the Versa and the Sonata. Interestingly, the Sonata is roughly $1000 cheaper (for the trim levels I want).
Eventually, it's my lack of confidence in Hyundai reliability and quality that did Elantra in. I owned two Nissans before and decided to go with the "devil" that I know.
I will test drive it although I am not ready to buy one yet.
Actually reliability is the top priority of mine.
You may want to read this:
http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/249264
In the previous years I had very good Nissan reliability on my 94 Altima and 96 Maxima. Alitma started to have some part replacement at 10 years old. Maxima had none but totaled at 6 years old.
It is also my rule to not buy first year design. I don't want ot be one of the real-world debugging testers for the manufacture. I'd rather buy last year car. Depreciation is not a problem as I keep car for many years.
But then again, there have been exceptions like the Quest, Titan, and Infiniti QX56. It does remain to be seen.
Here in western MA we travel significant distances. Not like AZ, but pretty good.
The SentraSL and VersaSL both have the interior stuff we want, like cruise control.
VersaSL
The VersaSL has way significantly better rear legroom (we are tall). It ALWAYS comes with a stupid "option" sound and bluetooth package. Who cares about 6 CDs when we use an ipod? Admittedly, some love the bluetooth.
SentraSL
The SentraSL 2.0 has a bit more power for the distance and probably does not work as hard. Would it be better in the winter weather crud? Is the actual MPG equivalent?
Ok getting back to your question, are you looking for a sedan or hatchback/wagon? I love my Versa, I just wish it was a little bigger "shoulder width" if the Sentra had a hatchback I would upgrade to that car....
I share your opinion, by the way, about the Convenience Package and other options. The only thing that makes any difference to me in it is the Intelligent Key. And as much as I like the Intelligent Key which I did experience when driving a JDM March, I cannot stand paying $700 for just that (since, like you, I don't care for for other items like Blootooth).
Do you use the rear seat often? Some people, inclduing my household, hardly ever have anyone sitting in the back. The Versa has a tremendous room in the rear, but that would not mean a whole lot if the rear seat is hardly ever used. But if you expect to have it occupied regularly, whoever sits in the back would greatly appreciate the almost limo-like space.
Have you test-driven both? What difference, if any, did you notice?
and its a Consumers Report "Check" recommended.
Mark.
There's a reason they're giving these away. I considered the Focus but it looked cheap (interior especially) and driving it was a long way from inspiring.
Makes the Fusion I have for $19,900 with $1,000 rebate and a few hundred discount look really good.
Mark.
Dealer is "0?" I work with a much better dealer.
Makes the Fusion I have for $19,900 with $1,000 rebate and a few hundred discount look really good.
Our definition of "really good" is radically different.
The Versa is far superior car then the Focus, now if Ford would get off thier but(t)s and bring over the European Focus, I would sell my Versa and get one of those...
Tony
The way I see it is like this: If I were in a crazy situation in which I'd have to buy my son a new car (unthinkable - I'd get him a new set of snow tires at most), I'd tell him to get a Focus. If I were driving, I'd get a Versa.
The only point I was trying to make is that at $14,995 the Versa is a pretty good car. at $18,800. I'm not biting.
Anymore than I would buy one of the $27,000 V6 AWD Fusions.
Or $33,000 Altima 3.5 SE with Tech Pkg.
Mark.
Like any other auto, the Versa is available @ multiple price points so picking out one point has what value? If you'd pay 14,995 for a fully loaded Versa, who wouldn't? If you'd pay 14,995 for a basic Versa S, dealers would line up to sell it to you.
No Focus (hatchback & wagon) I test drove recently had as good a ride as the Versa. Go figure.
Yup. That is one cheap-looking thang.
I've been driving for about 18 years now, so I *think* I have this whole "starting the car" thing down, but for some reason this car's ignition is fickle. Either that or I'm doing something wrong.
Sometimes it starts fine and others, it takes me several tries for it to start. There is no sound, the "idiot" lights engage, but the car just does not start. I was trying to start it with the doors open (kids don't like climbing into a hot car), and thought maybe that was the problem. No. Do I need to depress the brake? No. I tried stopping on "on" for a second instead of just cranking it over. Again, no sound emanates from the engine. Just like when you try to start your car when it's not in park (yes I have done that, many years ago in college. That AAA guy was VERY understanding!).
Am I the only one with this issue? I feel stupid, like I'm missing a step? SOMETHING??
PLEASE, shed some light on this for me!
At $18,800 the versa is no bargin. For that much you could buy a car in the compact class. However most people will pay far less than 18,800.
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http://www.nissantiidasedan.com.mx/
David