From the interior photos, it can clearly be seen the roomy legroom in all rows. Some car photos cunningly slide the front seats so as to give an impression of roomy 2nd row. But these photos show that ALL passengers get good space.
The Taiwan version comprised the same 1800 cc engine as the US Versa, plus they also got the 1600 cc version.
Though the rear seats don't fold perfectly flat, I guess it should still be adequate for carrying plenty of stuff from Wal Mart, many hardwares, unless U are carrying something really big and tall which even the Yaris and Fit might also face equal difficulty in carrying anyway.
Deeper section of the folded seats being angled slightly up at say 20 degrees to horizontal, compared to a perfectly flat floor, I would say really don't make much of a difference if we are carrying " normal " cargoes.
I mean most hatchbacks / compacts are not really dedicated cargo carriers. U got yr SUVs, minivans for that anyway.
Versa has been on sales as the Tiida for sometime in China. Here I found a JD Power survey that shows Versa is the most popular hatchback compact there. The Honda Fit is in 2nd place.
In the mid sedan category, there is a very nice Nissan sedan, called the Teana. This sedan beats the Camry and Accord in China. She has a very nice unique interior, but why isn't she on sales in the US I don't know.
Nissan Versa will also be coming to the U.S., albeit after the hatchback version gets here. We're looking at September for the hatch to arrive, is this true?
Since I'm in no hurry to buy and I haven't fallen in love with the Versa hatch I plan on taking a look at the Versa sedan, too.
The last time I heard the sedan version is coming later, but I am also not too sure.
Well, it is true that patience and restraint tend to pay off when it comes to car buying. Don't rush till you have seen all alternatives. Of course there is a time limit. We can't wait forever for new models to come.
The info I got is the cargo bay of Versa sedan is slightly bigger than the hatch version. Other than that they are pretty similar. Depends on whether you need that little extra space, and also some people prefer the hatch looks vs the sedan. But overall I think the sedan looks fine, though some think the hatch is better.
the new Nissan Versa sedan quite yet, but I will when the hatch gets here. Maybe sooner. I may have seen it already in a car magazine recently but can't remember for sure. Oh well, I am one who appreciates sedans as much as hatches so I will pursue looking at this Versa sedan from Nissan. They are sure pricing the hatchback reasonably and I am kind of interested in looking at the hatchback when it arrives and maybe even test driving it.
According to the latest Nissan press release the Versa Hatchback will arrive in September and the all new Sentra (small 2005 Maxima look alike) will arrive in October.
Prices have not been set but estimates on their site for building a car show they are very close in price( not the $3000 diff. in base price). The new 2007 Altima has been redesigned and does not look like the new Sentra.
Went to Popular Mechanics web site and could not find lowered mpg figures for the Versa. In a 5 car comparison on another magazine it was a close 2nd to the Honda Fit
Please site a link to the press release that states this. Here's a link to Nissan's North American press room site and no where does it say that the hatchback has been delayed until September (http://www.nissannews.com/). I've seen nothing official that conflicts with the "available in July" projection that was found in all of the reports following the press unveiling in Nashville back in late April. So July is what I'd believe until I see a real press release sited. For what it's worth, my dealer is saying they'll have one on the 26th of June, but again...I'll believe it when I see it.
Thought I'd found the perfect car -- bigger than the disappointingly small Fit, smaller than the Matrix. Georgeous inside. Then I got the brochure and saw the seats not only don't lie flat, they form a big shelf that would make toting boxes, etc. almost impossible. I sent a "say it ain't so" letter to Nissan. They sent back a letter saying yes, the photo is correct.
The bummer is the sales guys all insist the seats will lie flat like the Murano. Local sales guy says there's a big kick-off event June 30 to introduce the Versa, so I'll see for myself. Although I'm holding out hope that the seats will fold flatter than pictured, I fear I'm about to abandon Honda after 20 years and get a Matrix.
If the seats stick up as high as shown in the brochure photos, I predict many folks like me will opt for the Fit or the Matrix, whose seats lie flat. Dumb move, Nissan! You almost had the perfect car -- the return of the family station wagon.
I couldn't agree more... I was all set to wait until the Versa came out so I could compare it to the Fit and then decide between the two but when I saw the seats in the brochure and read the various reviews of both cars, I knew that the Versa wasn't really an option. In the end I went for the Fit and am quite happy... its too bad for Nissan though because on most other accounts it meets or beats the Fit.
Hold it guys ! Hold it ! Relax and hold the cash !
I also realized the limited cargo space of the hatch version. If this is the only version, then for those who needs tons of cargo space, the Fit is a good candidate.
BUT, here is the BIG BUT, DO NOT forget the Versa SEDAN version ! This sedan version has a rear boot cargo space of 467 liters ! Folks, thats 123 gallons or 16.5 cubic feet ! (according to other Nissan websites).
Thats quite a lot ! Already appreciably more than the Fit with all seats used ! For those who want the best of both worlds, then go for the Versa sedan !
A picture speaks a thousand words. I can't describe the big difference in cargo space between the 2 versions. But I got photos here, pls see for yourself. the Versa sedan boot can fit 3 golf bags !
Here is the site, from Nissan Qatar, but its in English. so don't worry :
Click on the 467 liter capacity luggage compartment to see the huge flat cargo space !
The more I think, the more I realize the sedan version is better. U got both big passenger room and cargo room. Just that some people may prefer the looks of the hatchback.
Here are more photos of the Versa sedan's interior features and luggage compartment etc. Don't worry abt the Chinese words. Just click and you can easily find and enjoy the detailed numerous photos.
There in Taiwan the sedan version launches first, the hatchback later.
Actually, the more I look, I think the sedan looks OK. Not terribly sexy, but decent. Acceptable considering the huge cargo space compared to its hatch sibling.
Ummmm.... no actually. The Fit has 21.8 cubic feet with all of the seats used and it has nearly 60 cubic feet with the rear seats folded into the floor. Honda quotes 41 cubic feet for the folded seat volume but its really more... they don't include the space close to the side curtain airbags for liability reasons. KC7, I know you're a HUGE fan of the Versa but try to be a bit more objective if possible.
I may sound subjective and a Versa fanatic, BUT I want to ask all visitors to this forum : How many of you have tried and sat in the Versa. How many have tried the Fit ?
I am not speaking from guessing just from looking at photos and numbers from internet only. May I remind all that I HAVE tried all 3, Versa, Fit, and Yaris. And in my honest opinion, Versa is the biggest and gives you the most BANG for your buck.
For Fit lovers, its fine if you say I am subjective or what. All I am saying is, guys/gals who want to buy one of these cars soon, don't jump the gun yet. Wait a while longer.
Cause if you don't listen to me, bought the Fit or Yaris first, and later realize Versa is the one you are looking for after all, then I can only say " I told you so. "
Maybe someone here is a Honda or Toyota salesman, maybe I AM a Nissan salesman. Who knows ? That's why I say, judge me, and other comments from anyone here, based on facts and of course VERIFICATION later during your test drive.
As Ronald Reagan used to say about the Russians " Trust BUT VERIFY ! "
My main messsage here remember is not BUY the VERSA and forget the rest. My main message here is " Hold it ! Check out the Versa before you write those cheques ! "
Honda Fit lovers can say all you want about the Fit being more roomy than the Versa, but later, when the Versa arrives, especially the sedan version, all of you will realize what I am talking about. Whether I am a liar, lunatic, or what.
I don't know where you get the Fit numbers, but the Versa sedan boot outguns the Fit cargo bay. Maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me ?
Actually, to check my claims, simple. I have provided photos of Versa sedan's boot. Could someone provide photos of the Fit's cargo bay area with all seats used ? Then we can use our eyes and make a final judgement.
I mean I also want someone to prove whether my eyes got a problem or not. Pls, I will appreciate if someone put up 2 photos comparing the Fit and Versa's space side by side. Photos can't lie do they ? (assume not modified of course !)
I trust my eyes more than anything else. What about you ?
Here is a link to a Nissan magazine which includes articles and many more big photos abt the Versa sedan and hatch from Nissan middle East. Its in English, so no problems here :
Well, maybe I AM not objective towards the Fit, and I think the reason is, after trying the 2, the difference is so obvious !
Its like if President Bush and Arnold Schwazeneger were to stand side by side, and you are asked to judge which one will you bet on if the 2 goes boxing.
How can I be objective ? The choice is so OBVIOUS ! Arnold S of course !
Allright, the Fit's flat cargo bay may be a bit useful sometimes, but again, ask yourself, how OFTEN do you get to use that flat floor space ? How OFTEN do you get to enjoy Versa's EXTRA LARGE legroom and headroom ?
Which will you probably use and enjoy more ? Which will you choose ?
Unless you often drive ALONE and use the car very often to haul large and big cargoes. Otherwise, for me, I will rather pay for the extra living space than a flat cargo bay.
I mean if you don't carry big sized cargoes often and more likely to carry groceries and normal shopping trips, then is Versa hatch's non-flat cargo bay a problem ? Does that PREVENT you from going shopping and carry your shopping bags home ?
All cars have strengths and weaknesses, Versa and Fit as well. So the only thing is : Which of the car's pros do you get to enjoy OFTEN, and WHICH of the car's cons do YOU SELDOM have to deal with !
Life is all about compromises. So is choosing the Versa vs the Fit. Which compromise in design makes sense for you ?
Then look again at the Versa hatch cargo bay and Versa sedan cargo bay photos again.
Do you REALLY think the Fit can beat the Versa SEDAN's cargo bay ? Mind you, the Versa sedan photo have proved that it can haul 3 golf bags ! With rear seats up.
Can the Fit haul 3 golf bags with rear seats up ? Look at the photo and make up your own mind....
The Fit photo is very large. The Versa photo I got is quite small sized. So your eyes got to be more analytical here...
that's a whole lot of car for a little amount of money. I'm the mod for the versa forums over at Fresh Alloy, and we're getting an ETA of late june to early july from some of our sales members. Those of you looking to cross shop should be able to test them versus the fit and see if the price difference is worth it for you.
Well, I've test driven the Fit and the Yaris... and the Fit is a very fun car to drive, with surprisingly good handling and acceleration for a car of this class.
While the Yaris, in my view, is a dog. It has some... soft handling the nice way to describe it. Kinda reminded me of the handling found in Korean cars.
When the Versa comes out, I'll go and test drive it. If it's got a good suspension for a car in this class, then it's a winner to me. If not, well... the Fit it is.
2007 Versa Hatchback models are available: the Versa 1.8 S 4-speed automatic transmission (late availability), priced at $13,250; the Versa 1.8 SL 6-speed manual transmission, offered at $14,450; and the Versa 1.8 SL with Nissan’s advanced Xtronic CVT™ (Continuously Variable Transmission), which is priced at $15,450.
CVT is the model that gets 30/36 MPG and is the setup on which the advertised hp ratings were tested. Also note that ABS isn't standard but a bunch of interior gagedtry (similar to Fit Sport) are standard. So it seems that, when similarly equiped/optioned to the Fit Sport it's got a better price point but the Fit Base is cheaper than a Versa SL and comes with only slightly less, FWIW.
Actually hp ratings are the same for all models - hp is tested on a brake dyno, which, IIRC, is connected directly to the engine's flywheel for engine ratings. so if hp is your thing, the versa still has the fit beat at 12,450 or 15,450.
regardless, I have a feeling you're looking at mpg anyhow. the fit and versa sl are alot more competitive at that price point. the big difference, with price being equal, is the superior mpg of the fit, as you infer, versus the power / GVWR numbers of the Versa. qualitatively, at that price point you have to look at the fold flat, superior cargo volume of the fit, versus the superior rear legroom, and better GVWR (payload capacity) of the versa.
I think all this cubic foot nonsense is silly anyhow, especially because there isn't any comparing of the GVWR of the two vehicles in relation to cubic feet, just like power to weight ratio. I suspect the versa would edge out in that category because of the bigger engine, meaning that the Versa would do a lot better in performance numbers carrying a 1000 lb weight set than a fit carrying a 1000 lb weight set.
Additionally, ABS isn't the end-all, be-all safety feature, because there are still alot of people who don't like it. side airbags really are the kicker here, which both vehicles have, while in the past they were an option in nissans along with ABS. with the specs of the new altima having 6 airbags out of the box, it looks like this change should be companywide (hopefully). it's only a $250 option, regardless.
So it seems that, in the high end model of both the fit and the versa there is price parity, yet more qualitative differences. remarkably, the compromises are fairly even, depending on the buyer. still, the value for low balling is in Nissan's court.
did you sit in the back seat? for an extended amount of time?
The biggest reason I'm pretty high on the Versa over the Fit, is for the rear legroom. My old car, an 02 Sentra SE-R, has a very similar rear legroom measurement to the fit. On my test drive, I sat in the back as well, and it wasn't comfortable for my 6 foot frame. it was ok, but the rear legroom on the versa looks to be much better.
I have quite a bit of tall friends ranging from 6 feet (me) to 6'5", ranging from 150 lbs (me) to 280. The fit would never cut it for me for long road trips.
In my research, it seems that the Fit is really best suited to people who are going to use it for one or two person commuting, with the occasional smaller adult passenger. also, it seems great for young families with small children, as a grocery getter for empty nesters, and as an entry level sport wagon. The best in class handling helps those who have to compromise on economic means, but still want a fun car to drive. the 'hip' interior will appeal to those who want a lot of flash.
The versa, on the other hand, looks like it's better for people who want to carry more adults comfortably, and more weight. Families with grown children, or singles wanting to carry adult friends or more weight on long road trips seem like a target market for the versa. (the bigger engine means I can carry a heavier payload.) We'll have to wait to see if nissan will offer a sport edition (SE-R) to compare fun to drive. The best in class passenger space will appeal to those who regularly carry adult passengers.
Brianmita, I could not have put it any better myself ! You hit it on the nail ! Fit should be considered a kind of short range fighter (in military terms), nimble, very suitable for 1-2 pilots.
The Versa is more like the F-15 fighter/bomber. More versatile (hey, she's named Versa !) In short, whatever Fit can do, Versa can ALSO do. But certain things Fit cannot do, Versa can. In Star Wars terms, Fit is like the Tie Fighter. Versa is like the X-Wing fighter, bigger, and not altogether slow to be a sitting duck for the Tie fighters.
mohonkmtn, if you feel Fit gives you plenty of room, then I guarantee you will not believe your eyes (and your senses) when you go try the Versa ! You might even pinch yourself to make sure you are not dreaming !
Even today, I still scratch my head sometimes and still wonder how did Nissan's designers fit such a big cabin into a small compact body. It seems to defy logic !
Oh, by the way, I have been in a Fit MANY times ! I am such a car nut that FYI, everytime a Fit is on display and I happen to be passingby, I will always go and sit in her again, even though I already know her. That's why my brain memory regarding Fit's interior is deeply embedded in my memory.
Here is another update. Recently I visited my Dad. Once again to make sure I am not dreaming, I sat inside my Dad's old BMW 5 series. As you know, BMW 5 series cars are huge compared to a Versa. Anyone will definitely vote for the BMW when it comes to cabin size.
But Holy Cow ! Once again, I sat in the driver's seat, took my normal driving stance, which is usually to slide the front seat almost all the way back, and then I moved to the rear. And to my surprise, gee, the BMW 5 series have only average legroom in the rear, if the front seats are moved backwards. Same with the Fit. (mohonkmtn, when you said the Fit's rear legroom is wonderful, did you made sure the front seats are not positioned too far forward ?)
And from my memory of the Versa overseas, when you move the Versa's front seats all the way back, the rear legroom is STILL enormous ! Thus once again I conclude that the Versa gives you more legroom and headroom vs the BMW 5 series ! Only BMW's width is bigger than Versa.
I am glad the Versa is on sale at last, so that you guys will soon realize what I am talking about, that I am telling the truth.
One more time, the reason why Versa makes most sense is not just financially, but biologically. I mean if, for not too big difference in price, why go for other cars when the Versa does it all ? (I mean compared to Fit and Yaris)
Even though Versa's mpg is slightly less than Fit, but that's fair considering you get a bigger engine to haul more people / cargo, and bigger cabin. Also the difference in mpgs when converted to gas money each month, it is not meaningful at all ! Unless you drive like what, hundreds of miles a day !
So for those who worry Versa's less mpg figures may dent your pocket book, just do the simple maths. How many miles a day do you drive ? You will realize that the difference is nothing when you get such a huge car living space and power to haul more stuff over long distances and over climbing roads.
And I will not be surprised if Altima / Sentra buyers may even find the Versa's interior rivalling, even exceeding her more expensive sisters. I predict that Versa may even cannibalize some of her more expensive sister's sales !
I am in San Diego and so many cool cars are coming out in the sub $15000 bracket but where are they? The lots are full of gashogs over $20000 but there is a shortage of cheap automatic tranny cars.I did a net search and the nearest VERSA was 3000 miles away,and no KIA RIOI5s,a few YARIS sedans.I wanted a hatchback thats fun and functional and gets over 25mpg.A MAZDA3 is plentiful but at $17000. Lots of FOCUS or is it FOCI, but they are cheaply built.
Link is http://www.Topix.net Nissan press release re multi-vehicle marketing platform "Next Generation Shift _2.0" dated June 7, 2006 Gardenia Calif. (Business Wire)
"Program begins primarily one week in advance of each new product introduction". "This month , the 2007 Quest will be intrduced under the Shift 2.0 umbrella campaign.
Rollout of other vehicle campaigns include the 2007 Maxima in July, THe all-new Versa in September, the 2007 Sentra in October and the 2007 Altima shortly thereafter.
Not quite. Try putting cargo under the Versa's rear seat. Or flip up the rear seat's bottom cushion to put something tall in that space. Or put something tall in the cargo hold. Or lay a large object flat in the back. Or maybe even bunk for the night in back. The Fit can do all those things. Not so the Versa.
Each car has its plusses and minuses. Neither is perfect; neither can cure world hunger.
Sure, no car is perfect ! But the car that comes closest to their respective buyer's needs can be said to be THE closest thing to perfection for THAT buyer.
So I agree. People who tend to carry large flat objects often, carry tall objects, sleep in their cars often should go for the Fit.
But again let's get back to basics. I know some people may disagree with me on this one, but for me, the basics are :
1. How OFTEN do you get to enjoy big sedan space, or rather how OFTEN do YOU WANT to ENJOY big sedan space ?
2. How OFTEN do you haul tall objects in yr car.
3. How OFTEN do you carry large FLAT objects that need perfectly flat cargo bays.
Anyway backy, have you ever tried a Versa ? If not, then may I inform you that the difference in Versa and Fit's cargo bay is NOT as bad as you think.
And one more thing. People who tend to very often carry cargoes tall and big, flat etc should not even think about the Fit, also Versa, Yaris. You should go for SUVs, pickups etc. Thats what those cars are for.
In my opinion, hatchbacks are primarily people carriers who use the cargo bay once in a while.
Well, its quite difficult for me to explain. OK then, go and see the Versa yourself and then we can talk again.
For people who somehow wants more cargo space and yet insist on enjoying Versa's big room, may I recommend you wait for the sedan version.
Backy, thanks for yr post. I just got an inspiration ! Maybe even the Nissan guys didn't think about this.
Now I just realized that with some simple creative ideas from our own, a Versa owner in fact can carry any cargo the Fit can. Let me explain.
1. You mentioned about carrying a tall object. Let's say a tall flower pot. OK. You said the Fit can flip up the bottom cushion of the 2nd row seat to carry such a tall object.
My solution ? Versa owners must remember that Versa's overall cabin height and headroom is taller than Fit. Also the 2nd row has enormous legroom.
So for Versa owners who also want to carry a tall flower pot, the solution is staring at you in the face ! DO NOTHING ! Unlike the Fit owner who have to flip the cushion, the Versa owner simply put the stuff in the 2nd row legroom area ! Isn't that sufficient ?
The extra space created by Fit's raised rear seat cushion is almost equalled by Versa's EXTRA big legroom EVEN without raising any cushion at all anyway !
It's even better in the Versa if a lot of people must be carried with the flower pot. Why ? Let's say the flower pot has a very wide diameter. Greater than the space in Fit's 2nd row legroom. In this case the Versa can still stuff the whole thing in the 2nd row, the Fit owner has no choice but to put in the cargo bay, which may or may not fit. Because the cargo bay area still have less height room than the cabin overall height.
Furthermore, if the car is filled with 4 passengers, and the pot of plant is very tall with a big pot diameter, the Fit owner may have to abort, but the Versa owner simply ask the rear passenger to STRADDLE the pot as he sits in the rear ! Thus carrying 2 pots together with 2 people is not a problem !
It can be done because of Versa's enormous legroom and headroom. Thus Even with 4 people, 2 reasonably sized tall plants can be carried, with 2 people in the rear straddling their legs between the pot. Try that in the Fit. Mission Impossible !
2. Flat object ? For Versa owners, even though its quite rare we carry long flat objects in our car, but if you really need that one day, you can always prepare a " mould " to fill up Versa's " hollow " cargo bay using a used rigid flat big box, or create your own !
Thus to carry a long flat object, simply " raise " the floor using this mould, and voila ! Carry your cargo ! anyway the height difference in the non-flat section isn't that terrible.
You must remember that Versa's rear seats even when folded, is raised not too high alarmingly, and the angle of raise is also not too steep. Just use some suitable object to fill up the void and hey, a Versa can carry a flat cargo anytime !
If I am wrong, do tell me. But simple do it yourself ideas can indeed turn a Versa cargo bay into a Fit's !
The ONLY thing Versa may not be able to carry that a Fit can is some SUPER large object whose height is so great that the say a few inches height difference in Fit and Versa's cargo bay means the difference between fitting or not being able to enter the cargo bay.
And even if the Fit can fit this giant object, it means the driver's rear view visibility is totally blocked by this massive object. In this case, isn't it better and safer to ask the shop to deliver that giant tall object to your home ? Driving with rear view totally blocked ? I don't think it's a wise idea.
So guys who are comparing the Fit and the Versa, we are only talking about a few inches of difference between the cargo bay height. Do you often carry cargoes THAT TALL ?
I have seen the Versa up close, twice. So I have some idea what kind of cargo it can hold and what it can't.
In my opinion, hatchbacks are primarily people carriers who use the cargo bay once in a while.
Which is why you prefer the Versa over the Fit. But realize not everyone is like you, and some people use the cargo bay a lot, so cargo versatility is more important than the extra legroom in the Versa.
I expect some enterprising person, or people, will offer cargo floor levelers for the Versa. Just something else to clutter up my garage when I'm not using it.
Anyway, the cargo versatility differences between the Versa and Fit are not the biggest issue for me. More important issues are: what is the real-world fuel economy difference? What is the real-world price difference for comparably-equipped cars? What is the driving position of the Versa like, and is it more comfortable for me than the Fit's? What is the ride and handling of the Versa like? What is the availability of base Versas with ABS?
And no, don't feel you need to respond to those questions with a 2000-word essay. I need to find out for myself when I drive the Versa.
But not a real-world price-to-feature comparison. I know for example that it is really hard to get a Fit right now for under MSRP. How about the Versa? Will prices be close to MSRP or will Nissan offer rebates and dealers offer some discounts--which could offset any advantage the Fit has in fuel economy. It will be interesting to see what the new competition from the Versa does to the small car market in general.
"I am in San Diego and so many cool cars are coming out in the sub $15000 bracket but where are they? "
They're sure not in NYC. I've seen 2 Fits at dealers, both of which are spoken for. I've seen a Yaris sedan, no Yaris Hatchbacks. Given some of the heavy breathing over the Versa here, which I haven't seen listed anywhere just yet, I'm beginning to think it might be a myth.
Methinks the car companies know these will be in high demand due to the gas prices. Not nice, car companies.
backy, I can't help but feel that you seem quite upset when I talked a lot about the Versa (mind you I am not typing a 2000 word Versa essay on a FIT forum). Here is the Versa forum and I see nothing wrong with even typing a 20,000 word essay as long as the moderators feel I am not causing any unpleasantness here, and the other potential Versa buyers feel the info I am giving is useful to them.
I mean, if you feel the Fit is the best, then go get one, and if you are tired of my long essays, then don't read my posts ! Maybe other visitors still find my info useful.
Just that may I remind you that before you get the Fit, make sure you and your family are CLOSER to 5 feet tall than near 6 feet ! Because if you and family are closer to 6 feet or more, and later found out what I have been talking about, once again I can only say " I told you so ".
And Honda is not going to compensate you for making a wrong choice.
Let me remind all visitors here that I am not saying the Fit is bad or something. ALL I am saying is in my opinion, the Versa is more suitable for many Americans considering the Fit is a Japanese domestic market designed car for Japanese who tend to be shorter than Americans in general (no racism here, its a FACT !)
The Versa is also designed initially for the Japanese market, but her Infiniti Q45 like cabin dimensions means Americans will have no problems at all with space.
But moderators, if my long essay about the Versa is deemed offensive, pls let me know.
I mean will you guys rather I pop up here and start talking good things about the Versa, or start saying bad things about it ?
I am not upset in the least. The fervor that you exhibit in talking up the Versa is actually pretty amusing. At least it was at first.
But what is a little hard to take is your condescending tone. You act as if no one else is in a position to evaluate a car based on their needs and wants--"Honda is not going to compensate you for making a wrong choice." LOL. You act as if no one has any sense if they choose anything but a Versa. I am 5'10" and I find the Fit to have plenty of room, front and back. Last time I checked, 5'10" is closer to 6 feet than 5 feet. Do you know the average height for adult American males? Any idea? Would you believe it's 5'10"? How about the average height for adult American females? Would you believe about 5'4"? And that's just for white and black Americans. Toss Hispanic Americans et. al. into the mix and the average goes down. That would mean a car like the Fit would have plenty of room for lots and lots of Americans, wouldn't it?
The roomy back seat of the Versa is a really nice feature, don't get me wrong. But there are other considerations in buying a car. What if someone (like me) has rear-seat passengers about 10% of the time? And almost all of those passengers are children well under 6' tall? That would tend to reduce the importance of that roomy rear seat, wouldn't it?
I actually like the Versa a lot, based on what I have seen so far. But I am fully capable of making my own decision based on my own evaluation of a car vs. my requirements. I don't need someone else to tell me I am too tall for a car that I have already driven and found to be roomy enough.
P.S. Just a word of advice if you try to type a 20,000 word essay on the Versa: type it someplace else first, and save it, because it will be truncated here. You'll need to split it into multiple posts.
You kidding me. Condescending ? Towards who ? I don't even know anyone in this forum in real life. What for ?
All I am trying to do is convey the many good points about this car which I have discovered overseas. Since many people in this forum are still waiting to see and try one, all I am doing is giving advanced first hand account.
OK OK ! I do agree that the Fit is pretty roomy, BUT if you can have MORE at similar prices, why not ?
And do you really think I feel everybody else cannot make up their mind about what cars are suitable for them, and that I the " master " guru need to guide them like kids ?
I am not that dumb. Even if you insist on getting a Fit or Yaris, its your right, and there is nothing I can do ! Or if someone wants to get a Hummer which sucks fuel, what can the hybrid / environmentalists do ?
Why don't you tell me what this forum is for ? If not for sharing info on the Versa, then what is it ? A place to say the Versa is bad ?
If I have any prejudice towards the Fit, then I will simply go to the Fit section and pour all my " condescending " stuff there. But of course I don't. Its a waste of time anyway since people can make up their own mind.
All I am doing is " helping " Versa interested people to make up their mind by finding more Versa info from around the world, and my own first hand experience with this model.
Is that " condescending " ? For heaven's sake ! Or is it because you personally prefer the Fit and you are upset I say the Versa is better ? Come on ! You can say the Fit is better and I will not even be offended ! Everybody have different loves. Just because I say the Versa is better does not mean everybody here will agree with me !
OK, here's how you can help. Since you have first-hand experience with the Versa, can you please tell us about the driving position of the Versa S model (without height adjuster) vs. the SL, which has a height adjuster? And what kind of height adjuster is it on the SL (e.g. a single-lever "pump" type or a dual-knob type)? It will help if you tell us how tall you are and your inseam. Some details that would help are: how is the thigh support? Is the seat cushion as short as some reviews noted (and was it a problem for you)? How is the relationship of the wheel to the pedals (i.e. is the wheel reach comfortable when your feet are comfy on the pedals)? How is the lumbar support (is it adjustable)? How do you feel after a long trip, say 3 or more hours? Are the seats firm or soft? Is the armrest comfortable (both arms) and is the right armrest usable when both hands are on the wheel?
Another thing I am wondering about is the feel of the six-speed. Is the shifter action smooth and precise? Is the clutch light, or heavy? Is it fun to run through the gears or a chore? What is the minimum cruising speed (level ground) in 6th gear? Is the car quiet at cruise in 6th gear?
Other things that would be good to know from someone like you with first-hand knowledge are, how effective is the A/C on a hot day (over 90 F)? Do the door mirrors fold? How good is the cruise control--is it accurate? Can it maintain speed uphill in 6th gear?
See, I am just using an analogy, did I say anything that smacks of insulting Christianity ? Hey ! Where is your sense of humour ?
Since I am beginning to be labelled a Nissan salesman or a condescending guy, then I guess its useless for me to elaborate too much. I'll just give a brief summary.
Well, since the Versa will be available for viewing soon, I guess you guys can verify my claims yourself.
Anyway, the one I tried is a made in Japan 1500 cc version, matic. So the engine is not the 1800 cc sold in US. But the cabin is the same.
Plus the one I tried does not have the rear seat sliding feature, which is only available in the 1.8.
But in a nutshell, it feels OK. The cushion is just right (for me), not too hard, not too soft. And I don't feel the seats are too small.
I am 5'7, and I tell you, if you slide the Fit's front seats all the way back, you will find the rear seat legroom begin to feel limited. Not cramped, but after you see the Versa, the difference is very obvious at once.
backy, for your own good and everyone else here, pls confirm whether the Fit you tried still feels roomy with the front seats slided ALL the way back. Did you double check this ?
Because almost any car, if the front seats are moved somewhat to the front by the sales guys, then the rear space WILL feel roomy ! If you want to check the car's REAL potential, you got to slide the front seats all the way back. Don't say I am condescending again, cause sometimes people forget to do such things.
Last but not least, I am just trying to inject some humour here. How can I even HOPE to convert anybody here ? Like I said, a person hell bent on getting a hummer is not going to be stopped.
In case someone really believes I am a Nissan man, let me tell you what's on my mind.
My loyalty is not to Honda or Nissan. Nor Toyota or the domestics. I go along with Han Solo in Star Wars. I remember he said to Princess Leia : " Your highness, I answer to only one person - ME ! "
Thus my loyalty is to myself, my wallet, and my family's well-being. Which car gives us the most BANG for our buck, we go along with that car. I don't care if its Nissan, Honda, Toyota, GM etc.
Just that at this moment, among these 3 compacts, I am heavily disposed towards the Versa. But backy (or anyone else), if you have new info that can convince me that the Fit / Yaris is better, tell me.
After all, I remember what I said myself " No car maker is gonna compensate me if I make a wrong decision ".
The one I tried is this version, type 15G in Japan, interior dark black gray. Although the one I tried got a sunroof.
The seat height adjuster is of the lever pump type. And frankly speaking, I was so enamoured by the cabin's super size that I forgot to analyse the armrests ! I just sat in the rear, looking around the interior cabin space like a guy who never sat in a car before. Such is the astonishment I got !
Overall, nothing significantly negative bothers me. Even though I prefer a car with beige interior, not this dark interior.
But interior color is secondary to me. Other factors are much more important.
Now, I will make one more statement that will make some guys squirm, but I swear it's true :
If you slide the front seats all the way back (my favourite method), this Versa's rear legroom has even more space than the Toyota Camry / Honda Accord ! Perhaps only the width aspect loses out. Though not that apparent.
How's that for more Versaism ? But if it benefits you, why not embrace it ?
But backy (or anyone else), if you have new info that can convince me that the Fit / Yaris is better, tell me.
Unlike you, I am not trying to convince anyone that the Fit or Yaris or any other car is better than the Versa. That is a decision that each person needs to make for himself or herself, based on his/her requirements.
As for whether I have slid the Fit's driver's seat all the way back... why would I want to do that? I am buying the car for myself, and other members of my family as passengers. So when I test a car I set the driver's seat so it fits me as the driver, then I sit behind it to see how the legroom is in back. I'm not buying the car so that Shaq can drive it (and you say I have no sense of humor??).
Of course ! Of course ! Like I said, I am fully aware that I am nobody's mum or dad in this forum. Visitors who even read my post will still make up their own mind. If my info / opinion don't have any effect, its fine with me.
Just that for others who wonder why I seem eager to recommend this car (is recommending something such a rare occurence in this world ?), perhaps I will use another analogy which is more accceptable.
I maybe like one of the earliest people who tried a Coca Cola when the drink debuts ages ago. And I believe there are many earlier drinkers who, after sipping that drink, shouted aloud to himself " Bingo ! What a drink ! I got to tell this to so and so ". And he goes around telling his friends / relatives what a drink it is and that they should give it a try. That is what word of mouth is all about.
That is what is on my mind now. Mind you, EVEN if someone here goes and buy the Versa due to what I said, will I get paid by Nissan ? EVEN if Nissan WANTS to pay me, how will they know which buyers are reading and " influenced " by my posts ? Remember, everybody here are using call signs.
Thus I am just like the early Coke drinkers recommending what I thought to be a good product. And I don't get paid a single cent by Coke at all ! Isn't it normal to tell many people about something good you saw, and tell EVEN more people about something BAD you encounter ?
OK. For people who ARE interested in this legroom thing (I know some people are not that particular), I know of a simple and precise way of comparing apples to apples.
OK. Fair enough, like backy said, I am buying the car for myself, fine. Then take your normal driving stance, move to the rear, remember the legroom space, and move to another car, repeat the same procedure. Use a measuring tape if you want to be more precise.
Fine backy, you are not buying the car for Shaq, BUT if you pay similar price and can get MORE for you and family, for heaven's sake, WHY NOT ?
I mean, if tomorrow there is an airline that offers first class seats at economy prices, I sure will call everyone I care about and tell them about such a rare offer. Of course I will not tell people whom I don't get along with.
Thus backy, when I tell you so many things, its because I treat you like a friend. If not, why should I bother ? I spend time and money to post here.
Have you EVER recommend a good product to your friends / relatives ? If yes, then hope you will understand what I am trying to do. Not to help Nissan make more money, but to SHARE the JOY !
However, if you say you are a loyal Honda buyer, then it's a different story. I know some people will stick to a brand and avoid others.
You don't know me from Adam. So there's no need to imply that I am a "loyal Honda buyer" just because I don't think the rear seat leg room of the Versa is an overwhelming reason to buy one. OK? OK.
Getting "more" is only a good thing if "more" is really important to you. If you frequently have long-legged people riding in the back seat of your car, that roomy rear seat of the Versa will be a BIG deal--maybe the deal-clincher. But maybe for others, "more" rear seat legroom is not as important as things like more miles per gallon, or more cargo versatility, or more comfortable/adjustable driving position, or more smooth/quiet ride, or more quick, or more nimble handling, or more warranty, or "more" any number of other things. (And in some cases, "less" may be "more".)
There's a lot more to a car than its rear seat. I can't wait to drive the Versa so I can find out for myself what some of those things are.
P.S. Have you driven the Versa? I asked earlier about your driving impressions, e.g. how the stick shift works, but you didn't give us any details. Or have you just sat in the Versa, luxuriating in that humongous rear seat?
backy, I said I drove the 1500 cc Automatic version. Its fine !
But I guess since I am already labelled a Versa nut, it won't do any good for me to elaborate further. Whatever I say you probably won't take me seriously. So allow me to present an article, 25 June '06 from the Chicago Tribune :
Nissan takes small to big time with Versa Published June 25, 2006
Saved the best for last.
We've now checked out the trio of new Japanese mini cars: the Honda Fit (Transportation, April 2), Toyota Yaris (Transportation, June 11) and now the Nissan Versa.
Toyota and Honda have more brand recognition, but Nissan gets the "atta boy."
It also gets a Best Buy nod from this scribe.
The 2007 Nissan Versa that arrives in showrooms next month has the most-spirited 4-cylinder, most-nimble handling, and by far the most spacious, roomy and comfortable cabin of the three.
OK, ride is a tad stiff, tar marks at times feel like railroad ties and the name looks like a combination of letters left in your hand at the end of the Scrabble game.
And its rivals do offer better mileage: Fit 33 m.p.g. city/38 m.p.g. highway, Yaris 34/39 and Versa 30/36.
But Versa is the one that we'd hop in if all three were parked in the drive and we needed a set of wheels for work or vacation.
Why? Versa has the best road manners thanks in part to having the longest wheelbase (102.4 inches versus 96.5 inches for Fit and 100.4 for Yaris); the second-longest length (169.1 inches/157.4 Fit/169.3 Yaris); and the largest tires (15-inch standard/14-inch Fit and Yaris, with 15 inchers optional for both).
Unlike Yaris, which was buffeted and slapped by wind gusts on the open road as well as by passing semis, Versa stands its ground.
It does, however, get the least mileage of the three but only because it has the largest and most responsive engine, a 1.8-liter, 122-horsepower 4-cylinder.
Though still not massive, the engine seems to deliver much more power at takeoff and passing in Versa. High mileage is one thing, having the energy to get out of the way if you need to is even more important.
Steep inclines don't resemble mountains in the path of Versa. It has more get up and go--and keep going--than its rivals.
Where Versa falls short is price, or so we think. Nissan's not saying much about that until a few days before the car goes on sale in July.
For now Nissan is saying only that it will offer a hatchback and sedan in base S and upgraded SL versions. The hatchback, which comes out next month, will start at about $12,000; the sedan, due out this fall, will be a little more--and be 5 inches longer.
Pricing also is an issue with Fit and Yaris. Billed as alternatives to hybrids, the base price is low, but you have to navigate the optional equipment lists--and prices--carefully.
The Fit, in hatchback only, starts at $13,850, but the Sport, which starts at $15,170, is the better choice not only for the dressier rocker panels, rear spoiler and fog lights, but also the upgrade to those 15-inch all-season radials. Those are standard with Versa.
Fit, in either version, comes loaded with anti-lock brakes; side-curtain air bags; power windows, mirrors and locks; air conditioning; and AM/FM/CD sound system as standard.
Yaris starts at $12,500 with air conditioning. Power windows, locks, mirrors and ABS are part of a $2,175 option package with Yaris. They also are part of the SL upgrade to the Versa. Stay tuned for price.
Versa, like the others, skips power seats. But, unlike them, offers a power sunroof as an option. And Versa makes Bluetooth hands-free phone system and satellite radio available as options.
The Japanese imports gained a foothold in the U.S. by selling high-mileage cars basically at a fixed price without having to spend a week checking off options. There, Fit, Yaris and Versa break from the past.
We tested the Versa SL with the optional continuously variable transmission, or CVT (a 6-speed manual is standard); the convenience package with power windows, mirrors and locks; and Intelligent Key.
With Intelligent Key, you carry a key fob and when you get in the car and the electronics embedded in it allow you to twist the plastic lever where the ignition key would be inserted and start the car. Such a key is usually reserved for luxury cars, and it saves the chore of fumbling with a key. But without the fob and its electronic magic, you don't go anywhere.
And kudos to Nissan for attention to details.
The glove box, for example, may be the largest in the industry. Reach hand in and by the time you strike the wall, your elbow will likely be inside as well. First time we reached in we expected to touch the front bumper. You won't get a laptop computer inside, but women should be able to hide a purse there.
There's also a covered storage bin in the center of the dash. Like the glove box, it is surprisingly deep. You can toss in keys, wallet or cell phone but better have long fingers to retrieve them.
Other nice touches include stowage compartments in the rear doors, stowage compartments plus beverage holders in the front doors and cupholders in the center console as well as rear-seat pull-down armrest.
The armrest between driver/passenger hides a little stowage compartment and a power plug for the cell phone.
Lift the light hatchback lid and the cargo compartment is a decent size. Sadly, a thin, cheap sheet of what appears to be carpeted cardboard serves as a parcel shelf for the back seat and a cargo cover. It lifts when you raise the hatchlid and is more of an obstacle to loading or unloading items than it is a service in hiding what you stash there.
If you need more cargo room, the rear seat backs fold flat, but they stand about 8 inches higher than the rear cargo floor rather than lying flat with it.
Lots of leg, head and arm room in front and rear seats, unlike the Fit, which was like motoring around in a phone booth.
And the cloth seats are well cushioned and offer above-average support for long-distance travel. But we wouldn't object if Nissan should opt to extend the seat cushion bottoms another inch for increased thigh support for the long haul.
Nissan doesn't divulge sales expectations--not surprising for a company that keeps price a secret.
Taking price out of the equation, Versa gets the nod if looking for high mileage without sacrificing room, comfort, looks and amenities.
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2007 Nissan Versa
Price as tested: N/A
Wheelbase: 102.4 inches
Length: 169.1 inches
Engine: 1.8-liter, 122-h.p. 4 cylinder
Transmission: Continuously variable automatic
CITY 30 m.p.g.
HWY 36 m.p.g.
THE STICKER
$12,000 base (estimated)
Extra-cost options will include CVT and 4-speed automatic; anti-lock brakes; power windows, locks, mirrors; sunroof; and Intelligent Key, which allows you to start the car by twisting the ignition switch without using a key.
PLUSES
A mini with maxi cabin space and decent cargo room.
Rear seats fold flat to hold more cargo, if needed.
Excellent mileage without going hybrid.
Side-curtain air bags standard.
A glove box so big it echoes.
MINUSES
Suspect it won't be hard to run up the price with the options.
There you go! There is a lot more to the Versa than a big back seat, isn't there!
The funny thing is, Nissan announced pricing on the Versa awhile ago. Those Tribune writers need to get with it, don't they? Maybe do some more research on Edmunds.com.
Edit:
Not to quibble with the Tribune but this is NOT "flat":
Actually I love to find fair articles from the internet, because they are FAR more credible than me, an anonymous guy floating around on edmunds.com. Here's another, June 23 article :
Test Drive: Nissan's Versa holds its own among new crop of subcompacts
By Matt Nauman Mercury News
Back when I was in grade school, U.S. automakers brought out a flurry of subcompacts to appease a car-buying public that had started to worry about the supply of gasoline.
More than 30 years later, those econoboxes -- including the Ford Pinto, Chevrolet Vega and AMC Gremlin -- are punch lines to jokes about bad cars. All three make the top 15 in Richard Porter's collection of 50 ``Crap Cars'' (Bloomsbury, $14.95). You'll find all three in Eric Peters' ``Automotive Atrocities: The Cars We Love to Hate'' (Motorbooks International, $19.95). Tony Davis' ``Lemon! Sixty Heroic Automotive Failures'' (Thunder's Mouth Press, $12.95) takes a more global view of dismal cars, and only includes the Pinto.
I mention all this because one of my grade-school-age sons just had his year-end picnic and I drove a new subcompact, the 2007 Nissan Versa, to the event.
The Versa, the Toyota Yaris and the Honda Fit are a new gaggle of subcompacts all arriving in U.S. showrooms this year. This time around, they make their debut just as consumers are letting worries about $3-a-gallon gasoline convince them that it's time to buy a small car.
And the Versa might be the best in the bunch.
That's because it's bigger and more powerful than the Fit, which I like a lot, too, and the Yaris, which I don't like that much.
For my son's picnic, where they met for the first time another class of third-graders they had been pen-pals with all year, I stuffed the Versa with various necessities. It easily accommodated two coolers, two bags of food, a couple of folding chairs, two kickballs and five hula hoops.
The fact that all that stuff fit easily into a subcompact -- I ended up folding one of the two rear seats, but that was for better access rather than a need for more cargo capacity -- shows you how different these new models are.
All three have merits. The Versa, Fit and Yaris have starting prices between $12,000 and $14,000. All three get highway fuel economy that cozies up to 40 mpg. The Fit only comes as a four-door hatchback. The Yaris can be had as a four-door sedan or three-door lift-back. The Versa is made as both a four-door hatch or a four-door sedan (but it's not on sale until December.)
I found all three surprisingly spacious, and both the Versa and Fit offered something extra -- a clever design, a neat interior bit -- to please a buyer. The Yaris seemed willing to rely on Toyota's solid reputation for quality, but didn't present anything innovative or distinct.
The Versa is powered by a 1.8-liter four-cylinder engine that makes 122 horsepower. That easily tops the 109 horses provided by the Fit, and the 106 found in the Yaris. The Versa is a bit heavier than the others, but the combination of engine and weight makes it feel like a more substantial car.
The three available transmissions -- a six-speed manual, a four-speed automatic and what Nissan calls its Xtronic CVT (continuously variable transmission) -- really affect the driving flavor of the car. I drove the CVT, which produces the best gas mileage, and found it smooth and a good match for the engine's power. Nissan says it will have installed more than 1 million CVTs in its vehicles, worldwide, by the end of 2007. Still, it expects most U.S. buyers to pick the more familiar automatic transmission on the Versa.
While I initially found the Versa's exterior design to be rather odd, it did become more appealing with familiarity. A four-door hatch is designed for function, not beauty, after all. Our pre-production test car was painted red.
The Versa is 169 inches long, 67 inches wide and about 60 inches tall. It's small enough for comfortable city driving and tight parking spaces, but it has great room for four adults and considerable cargo space.
The interior is vast for such a small car. The back-seat leg and head room is terrific. Cargo space -- 16.9 cubic feet with the seats up, and triple that with them down -- is great, too.
The interior design seems more upscale than the Yaris, but less purposely trendy than the Fit. Chrome rings around the instruments and bits of faux carbon fiber as interior trim make a good impression.
On the road, this front-engine, front-wheel-drive car felt energetic. It wasn't fast at all, but it was fast enough. I think the Fit has better handling, but the Versa does fine on twisting back roads, too.
Versa offers more than either the Fit or Yaris. It's longer, bigger and has a more powerful engine. The trade-off is that its fuel economy suffers a bit in comparison. Depending on the transmission of choice, the Versa provides 28 to 30 mpg in the city and 34 to 36 mpg on the highway, according to the federal government's ratings. The Yaris does better in both the city (34 mpg) and the highway (39 to 40 mpg) as does the Fit (31 to 33 mpg in the city and 37 to 38 mpg on the highway).
While it's unclear if Versa, Fit and Yaris will become as omnipresent as Sentra, Civic and Corolla (the three small cars that used to populate the bottom of the Nissan, Honda and Toyota lineups, respectively), it seems certain they won't become fodder for ``Crap Cars: The Sequel.''
BEHIND THE WHEEL -- 2007 NISSAN VERSA: Big space in a small package Clare Dear, Wheels Editor The London Free Press May 12, 2006
NASHVILLE -- Nissan concedes it hasn't been a real player in the entry-level market since its Sentra Classic faded from the scene in 1993. Its current Sentra, more compact than sub-compact, has been doing double duty -- with mixed results.
That lack of a suitable product can be a significant disadvantage for an automaker, especially in Canada where the small-car market accounts for about 50 per cent of total annual sales and entry-level models make up 20 per cent within the segment.
Obviously, there's plenty of opportunity for vehicles in this chunk of the market and now Nissan dealers can roll up there sleeves and start fighting for their share with an impressive new product, the 2007 Versa.
"We're optimistic what the new Versa can do for Nissan in Canada," national corporate and product planning director Ian Forsyth told a group of journalists gathered here in Music City for the car's driving debut.
Forsyth is expecting dealers will sell 30,000 Versas in its first full year in the market -- a key factor in Nissan's ambitious goal of boosting its overall national sales past 100,000 vehicles. That's an increase of about 30,000 from its 2005 total.
The company's optimism is bolstered by the fact they believe they have a real winner in the entry-level market -- and initial impressions here seem to support that notion.
While products at the bottom of the automotive pecking order are often saddled with compromises to meet pricing targets, Nissan has decided to skip the shortcuts and offer consumers a sophisticated vehicle that's similar in exterior size to competitive brands, but loaded with more features, performance -- and room -- than you'd expect in a small car.
In fact, the most impressive feature of this car is the amount of space inside. Chuck Plewes, product planning manager for the Versa, says Nissan has accomplished this by "inside-out thinking."
"The Versa isn't just another urban runabout," he says. "It's been designed for people to drive great distances in comfort."
Our day behind the wheel here backed up his point. Driving on a variety of interstate and secondary roads for several hours, there was never a feeling of being cramped in a small cabin. Despite being on the larger side of the human body scale, no elbows were rubbed with the other front-seat occupant; there were no sore hips and shoulders from too-narrow seating spaces. And legroom was superb, front and rear. In fact, the space behind the front seat for legs and other parts, even with the bucket well back on its tracks, is amazing. Ditto for headroom, even in the back row.
Interestingly, as Plewes noted, the useable cabin space in the little Versa is a millimeter longer, front to rear, than Nissan's full-size Maxima sedan. He says the overall interior volume (2,682 litres in the five-door hatchback) and rear legroom (965 millimetres) are class-leading dimensions.
Nissan's designers have also gone to great lengths to give the Versa an upscale feel. Instead of the hard, chunky plastic frequently found in subcompact interiors, surfaces such as the dash cover, armrests and interior door panels are soft to the touch.
The large seats, too, have a quality feel, with high-grade coverings wrapping around dual-density foam cushioning for good comfort and support.
The hatchback's 60/40 rear bench folds flat for additional space for bulky items. They don't drop to create a flat cargo floor, however -- there's a sizeable "step" with the seats folded.
The Versa's stylish design has cut into the accessibility to the cargo area -- the rear hatch opening tapers in to accommodate the tail light assemblies, restricting the size of the opening. It may never be a problem, at least until you're trying to stuff some bulky item in the back.
The Versa, while designed for the North American market, has been built on the global "B" platform Nissan shares with its parent, Renault. The result is a vehicle that has a hint of European handling dialled into its suspension. It sticks to the road well, without comprising ride.
The steering has an electric power assist and the Versa sits on 15-inch wheels. Brakes are power assisted, with discs up front and drums on the rear. An anti-lock braking system with electronic force distribution and brake assist is available at extra cost.
The Versa certainly has plenty of pep -- at one point on a Tennessee interstate we found ourselves cruising along well above the legal limit and the 1.8-litre inline four was just purrin' along. Its 122 horses (more than the Toyota Yaris, Honda Fit, Kia Rio or Chevy Aveo) and 127 lb.-ft. of torque are more than adequate in this 1,225-kilogram car.
A newly designed six-speed manual transmission is standard and while its gearing was well suited to the car, picking those gears was less pleasant. The shifting linkage in one manually equipped Versa we drove seemed to be a bit clunky and the gate into sixth gear was at times difficult to find. In time, I'm sure practice would make that gear change smoother, but fourth gear did come into play a few times when sixth was the intended choice.
Of course, you could avoid the whole shifty business by opting for a transmission that looks after itself, and with the Versa you have a choice. An electronically controlled four-speed automatic with overdrive is available, or you could opt for Nissan's nifty Xtronic CVT (continuously variable transmission.)
The CVT technology has been developed in conjunction with JATCO and is acknowledged to be superior in its design and performance. It delivers the engine's power smoothly while improving the car's fuel efficiency.
The only issue with the CVT-equipped model was noticeably more engine noise when accelerating to pass, compared with the manual model. The CVT seemed to let the engine spin to higher (and harsher) revs than when the driver was controlling engine speed through the six-speed box.
Here's how Transport Canada rates the Versa's fuel consumption:
With the six-speed manual: 7.9 litres/100 km (36 m.p.g.) in city driving; 6.3 litres/100 km (45 m.p.g.) on the highway.
With the four-speed automatic: 8.5 litres/100 km (33 m.p.g.) in city driving; 6.2 litres/100 km (46 m.p.g.) on the highway.
With the CVT: 7.9 litres/100 km (36 mpg) in city driving; 6.1 litres/100 km (46 m.p.g.) on the highway.
The five-door Versa hatchback is scheduled to start arriving at dealerships from the assembly plant in Mexico in July, while the four-door sedan should be available in January. Pricing hasn't been announced, but expect the hatchback to start around $14,500; the sedan should retail for about $17,000 to $18,000.
A sport package, including a power sunroof, fog lights and a body kit with front, rear and side sill spoilers, will be available for the hatchback in the fall.
Guys and gals, I guess it can be boring to just read post and media articles abt cars. I have a new idea, let's watch Versa TV ads in other countries !
I have always been a fan of car ads, especially unusual, funny ones. Because many car ads are quite mundane, mostly only showing us the car cruising on the road and the interior.
I came across this Nissan Versa TV ad in Nissan Taiwan's website after hanging around the website. Do not be intimidated by language differences. Just playing around and clicking will yield something !
This TV ad is quite unusual. Maybe some will think it's silly, but I think sometimes an ad have to be a bit silly to be entertaining. For those with high speed internet access, its a breeze to watch this one :
On the link below, enter the website. Then after the page have loaded, click on the white Versa sedan near the bottom right hand corner. A Windows Media file will automatically load, and before long, the TV ad will start. Complete with sound !
Enjoy and tell me what you think. Silly, stupid maybe, but definitely unusual ! The link is :
Later after I found other TV ads, I will post here. Friends, if you find any interesting car TV ads, even if done by other car models / brands, pls let me know. I want to have a look.
Comments
Just ignore the Chinese characters. There are some big and clear photos of the exterior and interior in this site :
http://tw.autos.yahoo.com/auto_information_article2/url/d/a/060607/3/tcw.html
From the interior photos, it can clearly be seen the roomy legroom in all rows. Some car photos cunningly slide the front seats so as to give an impression of roomy 2nd row. But these photos show that ALL passengers get good space.
The Taiwan version comprised the same 1800 cc engine as the US Versa, plus they also got the 1600 cc version.
Though the rear seats don't fold perfectly flat, I guess it should still be adequate for carrying plenty of stuff from Wal Mart, many hardwares, unless U are carrying something really big and tall which even the Yaris and Fit might also face equal difficulty in carrying anyway.
Deeper section of the folded seats being angled slightly up at say 20 degrees to horizontal, compared to a perfectly flat floor, I would say really don't make much of a difference if we are carrying " normal " cargoes.
I mean most hatchbacks / compacts are not really dedicated cargo carriers. U got yr SUVs, minivans for that anyway.
http://cars.about.com/od/nissan/fr/bk_07versa.htm
In the mid sedan category, there is a very nice Nissan sedan, called the Teana. This sedan beats the Camry and Accord in China. She has a very nice unique interior, but why isn't she on sales in the US I don't know.
Here is the full article, in English :
http://www.jdpower.co.jp/press/pdf2005/2005ChinaAPEAL_E.pdf
Since I'm in no hurry to buy and I haven't fallen in love with the Versa hatch I plan on taking a look at the Versa sedan, too.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
Well, it is true that patience and restraint tend to pay off when it comes to car buying. Don't rush till you have seen all alternatives. Of course there is a time limit. We can't wait forever for new models to come.
The info I got is the cargo bay of Versa sedan is slightly bigger than the hatch version. Other than that they are pretty similar. Depends on whether you need that little extra space, and also some people prefer the hatch looks vs the sedan. But overall I think the sedan looks fine, though some think the hatch is better.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
Prices have not been set but estimates on their site for building a car show they are very close in price( not the $3000 diff. in base price). The new 2007 Altima has been redesigned and does not look like the new Sentra.
Went to Popular Mechanics web site and could not find lowered mpg figures for the Versa. In a 5 car comparison on another magazine it was a close 2nd to the Honda Fit
The bummer is the sales guys all insist the seats will lie flat like the Murano. Local sales guy says there's a big kick-off event June 30 to introduce the Versa, so I'll see for myself. Although I'm holding out hope that the seats will fold flatter than pictured, I fear I'm about to abandon Honda after 20 years and get a Matrix.
If the seats stick up as high as shown in the brochure photos, I predict many folks like me will opt for the Fit or the Matrix, whose seats lie flat. Dumb move, Nissan! You almost had the perfect car -- the return of the family station wagon.
I also realized the limited cargo space of the hatch version. If this is the only version, then for those who needs tons of cargo space, the Fit is a good candidate.
BUT, here is the BIG BUT, DO NOT forget the Versa SEDAN version ! This sedan version has a rear boot cargo space of 467 liters ! Folks, thats 123 gallons or 16.5 cubic feet ! (according to other Nissan websites).
Thats quite a lot ! Already appreciably more than the Fit with all seats used ! For those who want the best of both worlds, then go for the Versa sedan !
A picture speaks a thousand words. I can't describe the big difference in cargo space between the 2 versions. But I got photos here, pls see for yourself. the Versa sedan boot can fit 3 golf bags !
Here is the site, from Nissan Qatar, but its in English. so don't worry :
http://www.nissanqatar.com/tiida_s/tiida_interior.htm
Click on the 467 liter capacity luggage compartment to see the huge flat cargo space !
The more I think, the more I realize the sedan version is better. U got both big passenger room and cargo room. Just that some people may prefer the looks of the hatchback.
There in Taiwan the sedan version launches first, the hatchback later.
Actually, the more I look, I think the sedan looks OK. Not terribly sexy, but decent. Acceptable considering the huge cargo space compared to its hatch sibling.
http://www.nissan.com.tw/car/tiida/index.asp?level=2&top=2
I am not speaking from guessing just from looking at photos and numbers from internet only. May I remind all that I HAVE tried all 3, Versa, Fit, and Yaris. And in my honest opinion, Versa is the biggest and gives you the most BANG for your buck.
For Fit lovers, its fine if you say I am subjective or what. All I am saying is, guys/gals who want to buy one of these cars soon, don't jump the gun yet. Wait a while longer.
Cause if you don't listen to me, bought the Fit or Yaris first, and later realize Versa is the one you are looking for after all, then I can only say " I told you so. "
Maybe someone here is a Honda or Toyota salesman, maybe I AM a Nissan salesman. Who knows ? That's why I say, judge me, and other comments from anyone here, based on facts and of course VERIFICATION later during your test drive.
As Ronald Reagan used to say about the Russians " Trust BUT VERIFY ! "
My main messsage here remember is not BUY the VERSA and forget the rest. My main message here is " Hold it ! Check out the Versa before you write those cheques ! "
Honda Fit lovers can say all you want about the Fit being more roomy than the Versa, but later, when the Versa arrives, especially the sedan version, all of you will realize what I am talking about. Whether I am a liar, lunatic, or what.
I don't know where you get the Fit numbers, but the Versa sedan boot outguns the Fit cargo bay. Maybe my eyes are playing tricks on me ?
Actually, to check my claims, simple. I have provided photos of Versa sedan's boot. Could someone provide photos of the Fit's cargo bay area with all seats used ? Then we can use our eyes and make a final judgement.
I mean I also want someone to prove whether my eyes got a problem or not. Pls, I will appreciate if someone put up 2 photos comparing the Fit and Versa's space side by side. Photos can't lie do they ? (assume not modified of course !)
I trust my eyes more than anything else. What about you ?
Here is a link to a Nissan magazine which includes articles and many more big photos abt the Versa sedan and hatch from Nissan middle East. Its in English, so no problems here :
http://www.nissan-me.com/inside_nissan/news/shift_magazine/shift_4english.pdf
Its like if President Bush and Arnold Schwazeneger were to stand side by side, and you are asked to judge which one will you bet on if the 2 goes boxing.
How can I be objective ? The choice is so OBVIOUS ! Arnold S of course !
Allright, the Fit's flat cargo bay may be a bit useful sometimes, but again, ask yourself, how OFTEN do you get to use that flat floor space ? How OFTEN do you get to enjoy Versa's EXTRA LARGE legroom and headroom ?
Which will you probably use and enjoy more ? Which will you choose ?
Unless you often drive ALONE and use the car very often to haul large and big cargoes. Otherwise, for me, I will rather pay for the extra living space than a flat cargo bay.
I mean if you don't carry big sized cargoes often and more likely to carry groceries and normal shopping trips, then is Versa hatch's non-flat cargo bay a problem ? Does that PREVENT you from going shopping and carry your shopping bags home ?
All cars have strengths and weaknesses, Versa and Fit as well. So the only thing is : Which of the car's pros do you get to enjoy OFTEN, and WHICH of the car's cons do YOU SELDOM have to deal with !
Life is all about compromises. So is choosing the Versa vs the Fit. Which compromise in design makes sense for you ?
http://automobiles.honda.com/models/interior_gallery.asp?ModelName=Fit
Then look again at the Versa hatch cargo bay and Versa sedan cargo bay photos again.
Do you REALLY think the Fit can beat the Versa SEDAN's cargo bay ? Mind you, the Versa sedan photo have proved that it can haul 3 golf bags ! With rear seats up.
Can the Fit haul 3 golf bags with rear seats up ? Look at the photo and make up your own mind....
The Fit photo is very large. The Versa photo I got is quite small sized. So your eyes got to be more analytical here...
that's a whole lot of car for a little amount of money. I'm the mod for the versa forums over at Fresh Alloy, and we're getting an ETA of late june to early july from some of our sales members. Those of you looking to cross shop should be able to test them versus the fit and see if the price difference is worth it for you.
While the Yaris, in my view, is a dog. It has some... soft handling the nice way to describe it. Kinda reminded me of the handling found in Korean cars.
When the Versa comes out, I'll go and test drive it. If it's got a good suspension for a car in this class, then it's a winner to me. If not, well... the Fit it is.
CVT is the model that gets 30/36 MPG and is the setup on which the advertised hp ratings were tested. Also note that ABS isn't standard but a bunch of interior gagedtry (similar to Fit Sport) are standard. So it seems that, when similarly equiped/optioned to the Fit Sport it's got a better price point but the Fit Base is cheaper than a Versa SL and comes with only slightly less, FWIW.
regardless, I have a feeling you're looking at mpg anyhow. the fit and versa sl are alot more competitive at that price point. the big difference, with price being equal, is the superior mpg of the fit, as you infer, versus the power / GVWR numbers of the Versa. qualitatively, at that price point you have to look at the fold flat, superior cargo volume of the fit, versus the superior rear legroom, and better GVWR (payload capacity) of the versa.
I think all this cubic foot nonsense is silly anyhow, especially because there isn't any comparing of the GVWR of the two vehicles in relation to cubic feet, just like power to weight ratio. I suspect the versa would edge out in that category because of the bigger engine, meaning that the Versa would do a lot better in performance numbers carrying a 1000 lb weight set than a fit carrying a 1000 lb weight set.
Additionally, ABS isn't the end-all, be-all safety feature, because there are still alot of people who don't like it. side airbags really are the kicker here, which both vehicles have, while in the past they were an option in nissans along with ABS. with the specs of the new altima having 6 airbags out of the box, it looks like this change should be companywide (hopefully). it's only a $250 option, regardless.
So it seems that, in the high end model of both the fit and the versa there is price parity, yet more qualitative differences. remarkably, the compromises are fairly even, depending on the buyer. still, the value for low balling is in Nissan's court.
Have you been in a Fit? I'm 6 feet tall, and I had a huge amount of legroom and hedroom in the 2 Fits I've seen. I haven't seen a Versa.
The biggest reason I'm pretty high on the Versa over the Fit, is for the rear legroom. My old car, an 02 Sentra SE-R, has a very similar rear legroom measurement to the fit. On my test drive, I sat in the back as well, and it wasn't comfortable for my 6 foot frame. it was ok, but the rear legroom on the versa looks to be much better.
I have quite a bit of tall friends ranging from 6 feet (me) to 6'5", ranging from 150 lbs (me) to 280. The fit would never cut it for me for long road trips.
In my research, it seems that the Fit is really best suited to people who are going to use it for one or two person commuting, with the occasional smaller adult passenger. also, it seems great for young families with small children, as a grocery getter for empty nesters, and as an entry level sport wagon. The best in class handling helps those who have to compromise on economic means, but still want a fun car to drive. the 'hip' interior will appeal to those who want a lot of flash.
The versa, on the other hand, looks like it's better for people who want to carry more adults comfortably, and more weight. Families with grown children, or singles wanting to carry adult friends or more weight on long road trips seem like a target market for the versa. (the bigger engine means I can carry a heavier payload.) We'll have to wait to see if nissan will offer a sport edition (SE-R) to compare fun to drive. The best in class passenger space will appeal to those who regularly carry adult passengers.
The Versa is more like the F-15 fighter/bomber. More versatile (hey, she's named Versa !) In short, whatever Fit can do, Versa can ALSO do. But certain things Fit cannot do, Versa can. In Star Wars terms, Fit is like the Tie Fighter. Versa is like the X-Wing fighter, bigger, and not altogether slow to be a sitting duck for the Tie fighters.
mohonkmtn, if you feel Fit gives you plenty of room, then I guarantee you will not believe your eyes (and your senses) when you go try the Versa ! You might even pinch yourself to make sure you are not dreaming !
Even today, I still scratch my head sometimes and still wonder how did Nissan's designers fit such a big cabin into a small compact body. It seems to defy logic !
Oh, by the way, I have been in a Fit MANY times ! I am such a car nut that FYI, everytime a Fit is on display and I happen to be passingby, I will always go and sit in her again, even though I already know her. That's why my brain memory regarding Fit's interior is deeply embedded in my memory.
Here is another update. Recently I visited my Dad. Once again to make sure I am not dreaming, I sat inside my Dad's old BMW 5 series. As you know, BMW 5 series cars are huge compared to a Versa. Anyone will definitely vote for the BMW when it comes to cabin size.
But Holy Cow ! Once again, I sat in the driver's seat, took my normal driving stance, which is usually to slide the front seat almost all the way back, and then I moved to the rear. And to my surprise, gee, the BMW 5 series have only average legroom in the rear, if the front seats are moved backwards. Same with the Fit. (mohonkmtn, when you said the Fit's rear legroom is wonderful, did you made sure the front seats are not positioned too far forward ?)
And from my memory of the Versa overseas, when you move the Versa's front seats all the way back, the rear legroom is STILL enormous ! Thus once again I conclude that the Versa gives you more legroom and headroom vs the BMW 5 series ! Only BMW's width is bigger than Versa.
I am glad the Versa is on sale at last, so that you guys will soon realize what I am talking about, that I am telling the truth.
One more time, the reason why Versa makes most sense is not just financially, but biologically. I mean if, for not too big difference in price, why go for other cars when the Versa does it all ? (I mean compared to Fit and Yaris)
Even though Versa's mpg is slightly less than Fit, but that's fair considering you get a bigger engine to haul more people / cargo, and bigger cabin. Also the difference in mpgs when converted to gas money each month, it is not meaningful at all ! Unless you drive like what, hundreds of miles a day !
So for those who worry Versa's less mpg figures may dent your pocket book, just do the simple maths. How many miles a day do you drive ? You will realize that the difference is nothing when you get such a huge car living space and power to haul more stuff over long distances and over climbing roads.
And I will not be surprised if Altima / Sentra buyers may even find the Versa's interior rivalling, even exceeding her more expensive sisters. I predict that Versa may even cannibalize some of her more expensive sister's sales !
cheap automatic tranny cars.I did a net search and the
nearest VERSA was 3000 miles away,and no KIA RIOI5s,a few
YARIS sedans.I wanted a hatchback thats fun and functional
and gets over 25mpg.A MAZDA3 is plentiful but at $17000.
Lots of FOCUS or is it FOCI, but they are cheaply built.
http://www.Topix.net
Nissan press release re multi-vehicle marketing platform "Next Generation Shift _2.0"
dated June 7, 2006 Gardenia Calif. (Business Wire)
"Program begins primarily one week in advance of each new product introduction". "This month , the 2007 Quest will be intrduced under the Shift 2.0 umbrella campaign.
Rollout of other vehicle campaigns include the 2007 Maxima in July, THe all-new Versa in September, the 2007 Sentra in October and the 2007 Altima shortly thereafter.
Not quite. Try putting cargo under the Versa's rear seat. Or flip up the rear seat's bottom cushion to put something tall in that space. Or put something tall in the cargo hold. Or lay a large object flat in the back. Or maybe even bunk for the night in back. The Fit can do all those things. Not so the Versa.
Each car has its plusses and minuses. Neither is perfect; neither can cure world hunger.
So I agree. People who tend to carry large flat objects often, carry tall objects, sleep in their cars often should go for the Fit.
But again let's get back to basics. I know some people may disagree with me on this one, but for me, the basics are :
1. How OFTEN do you get to enjoy big sedan space, or rather how OFTEN do YOU WANT to ENJOY big sedan space ?
2. How OFTEN do you haul tall objects in yr car.
3. How OFTEN do you carry large FLAT objects that need perfectly flat cargo bays.
Anyway backy, have you ever tried a Versa ? If not, then may I inform you that the difference in Versa and Fit's cargo bay is NOT as bad as you think.
And one more thing. People who tend to very often carry cargoes tall and big, flat etc should not even think about the Fit, also Versa, Yaris. You should go for SUVs, pickups etc. Thats what those cars are for.
In my opinion, hatchbacks are primarily people carriers who use the cargo bay once in a while.
Well, its quite difficult for me to explain. OK then, go and see the Versa yourself and then we can talk again.
For people who somehow wants more cargo space and yet insist on enjoying Versa's big room, may I recommend you wait for the sedan version.
Now I just realized that with some simple creative ideas from our own, a Versa owner in fact can carry any cargo the Fit can. Let me explain.
1. You mentioned about carrying a tall object. Let's say a tall flower pot. OK. You said the Fit can flip up the bottom cushion of the 2nd row seat to carry such a tall object.
My solution ? Versa owners must remember that Versa's overall cabin height and headroom is taller than Fit. Also the 2nd row has enormous legroom.
So for Versa owners who also want to carry a tall flower pot, the solution is staring at you in the face ! DO NOTHING ! Unlike the Fit owner who have to flip the cushion, the Versa owner simply put the stuff in the 2nd row legroom area ! Isn't that sufficient ?
The extra space created by Fit's raised rear seat cushion is almost equalled by Versa's EXTRA big legroom EVEN without raising any cushion at all anyway !
It's even better in the Versa if a lot of people must be carried with the flower pot. Why ? Let's say the flower pot has a very wide diameter. Greater than the space in Fit's 2nd row legroom. In this case the Versa can still stuff the whole thing in the 2nd row, the Fit owner has no choice but to put in the cargo bay, which may or may not fit. Because the cargo bay area still have less height room than the cabin overall height.
Furthermore, if the car is filled with 4 passengers, and the pot of plant is very tall with a big pot diameter, the Fit owner may have to abort, but the Versa owner simply ask the rear passenger to STRADDLE the pot as he sits in the rear ! Thus carrying 2 pots together with 2 people is not a problem !
It can be done because of Versa's enormous legroom and headroom. Thus Even with 4 people, 2 reasonably sized tall plants can be carried, with 2 people in the rear straddling their legs between the pot. Try that in the Fit. Mission Impossible !
2. Flat object ? For Versa owners, even though its quite rare we carry long flat objects in our car, but if you really need that one day, you can always prepare a " mould " to fill up Versa's " hollow " cargo bay using a used rigid flat big box, or create your own !
Thus to carry a long flat object, simply " raise " the floor using this mould, and voila ! Carry your cargo ! anyway the height difference in the non-flat section isn't that terrible.
You must remember that Versa's rear seats even when folded, is raised not too high alarmingly, and the angle of raise is also not too steep. Just use some suitable object to fill up the void and hey, a Versa can carry a flat cargo anytime !
If I am wrong, do tell me. But simple do it yourself ideas can indeed turn a Versa cargo bay into a Fit's !
The ONLY thing Versa may not be able to carry that a Fit can is some SUPER large object whose height is so great that the say a few inches height difference in Fit and Versa's cargo bay means the difference between fitting or not being able to enter the cargo bay.
And even if the Fit can fit this giant object, it means the driver's rear view visibility is totally blocked by this massive object. In this case, isn't it better and safer to ask the shop to deliver that giant tall object to your home ? Driving with rear view totally blocked ? I don't think it's a wise idea.
So guys who are comparing the Fit and the Versa, we are only talking about a few inches of difference between the cargo bay height. Do you often carry cargoes THAT TALL ?
In my opinion, hatchbacks are primarily people carriers who use the cargo bay once in a while.
Which is why you prefer the Versa over the Fit. But realize not everyone is like you, and some people use the cargo bay a lot, so cargo versatility is more important than the extra legroom in the Versa.
I expect some enterprising person, or people, will offer cargo floor levelers for the Versa. Just something else to clutter up my garage when I'm not using it.
Anyway, the cargo versatility differences between the Versa and Fit are not the biggest issue for me. More important issues are: what is the real-world fuel economy difference? What is the real-world price difference for comparably-equipped cars? What is the driving position of the Versa like, and is it more comfortable for me than the Fit's? What is the ride and handling of the Versa like? What is the availability of base Versas with ABS?
And no, don't feel you need to respond to those questions with a 2000-word essay.
They're sure not in NYC. I've seen 2 Fits at dealers, both of which are spoken for. I've seen a Yaris sedan, no Yaris Hatchbacks. Given some of the heavy breathing over the Versa here, which I haven't seen listed anywhere just yet, I'm beginning to think it might be a myth.
Methinks the car companies know these will be in high demand due to the gas prices. Not nice, car companies.
I mean, if you feel the Fit is the best, then go get one, and if you are tired of my long essays, then don't read my posts ! Maybe other visitors still find my info useful.
Just that may I remind you that before you get the Fit, make sure you and your family are CLOSER to 5 feet tall than near 6 feet ! Because if you and family are closer to 6 feet or more, and later found out what I have been talking about, once again I can only say " I told you so ".
And Honda is not going to compensate you for making a wrong choice.
Let me remind all visitors here that I am not saying the Fit is bad or something. ALL I am saying is in my opinion, the Versa is more suitable for many Americans considering the Fit is a Japanese domestic market designed car for Japanese who tend to be shorter than Americans in general (no racism here, its a FACT !)
The Versa is also designed initially for the Japanese market, but her Infiniti Q45 like cabin dimensions means Americans will have no problems at all with space.
But moderators, if my long essay about the Versa is deemed offensive, pls let me know.
I mean will you guys rather I pop up here and start talking good things about the Versa, or start saying bad things about it ?
But what is a little hard to take is your condescending tone. You act as if no one else is in a position to evaluate a car based on their needs and wants--"Honda is not going to compensate you for making a wrong choice." LOL. You act as if no one has any sense if they choose anything but a Versa. I am 5'10" and I find the Fit to have plenty of room, front and back. Last time I checked, 5'10" is closer to 6 feet than 5 feet. Do you know the average height for adult American males? Any idea? Would you believe it's 5'10"? How about the average height for adult American females? Would you believe about 5'4"? And that's just for white and black Americans. Toss Hispanic Americans et. al. into the mix and the average goes down. That would mean a car like the Fit would have plenty of room for lots and lots of Americans, wouldn't it?
The roomy back seat of the Versa is a really nice feature, don't get me wrong. But there are other considerations in buying a car. What if someone (like me) has rear-seat passengers about 10% of the time? And almost all of those passengers are children well under 6' tall? That would tend to reduce the importance of that roomy rear seat, wouldn't it?
I actually like the Versa a lot, based on what I have seen so far. But I am fully capable of making my own decision based on my own evaluation of a car vs. my requirements. I don't need someone else to tell me I am too tall for a car that I have already driven and found to be roomy enough.
P.S. Just a word of advice if you try to type a 20,000 word essay on the Versa: type it someplace else first, and save it, because it will be truncated here. You'll need to split it into multiple posts.
All I am trying to do is convey the many good points about this car which I have discovered overseas. Since many people in this forum are still waiting to see and try one, all I am doing is giving advanced first hand account.
OK OK ! I do agree that the Fit is pretty roomy, BUT if you can have MORE at similar prices, why not ?
And do you really think I feel everybody else cannot make up their mind about what cars are suitable for them, and that I the " master " guru need to guide them like kids ?
I am not that dumb. Even if you insist on getting a Fit or Yaris, its your right, and there is nothing I can do ! Or if someone wants to get a Hummer which sucks fuel, what can the hybrid / environmentalists do ?
Why don't you tell me what this forum is for ? If not for sharing info on the Versa, then what is it ? A place to say the Versa is bad ?
If I have any prejudice towards the Fit, then I will simply go to the Fit section and pour all my " condescending " stuff there. But of course I don't. Its a waste of time anyway since people can make up their own mind.
All I am doing is " helping " Versa interested people to make up their mind by finding more Versa info from around the world, and my own first hand experience with this model.
Is that " condescending " ? For heaven's sake ! Or is it because you personally prefer the Fit and you are upset I say the Versa is better ? Come on ! You can say the Fit is better and I will not even be offended ! Everybody have different loves. Just because I say the Versa is better does not mean everybody here will agree with me !
Another thing I am wondering about is the feel of the six-speed. Is the shifter action smooth and precise? Is the clutch light, or heavy? Is it fun to run through the gears or a chore? What is the minimum cruising speed (level ground) in 6th gear? Is the car quiet at cruise in 6th gear?
Other things that would be good to know from someone like you with first-hand knowledge are, how effective is the A/C on a hot day (over 90 F)? Do the door mirrors fold? How good is the cruise control--is it accurate? Can it maintain speed uphill in 6th gear?
Since I am beginning to be labelled a Nissan salesman or a condescending guy, then I guess its useless for me to elaborate too much. I'll just give a brief summary.
Well, since the Versa will be available for viewing soon, I guess you guys can verify my claims yourself.
Anyway, the one I tried is a made in Japan 1500 cc version, matic. So the engine is not the 1800 cc sold in US. But the cabin is the same.
Plus the one I tried does not have the rear seat sliding feature, which is only available in the 1.8.
But in a nutshell, it feels OK. The cushion is just right (for me), not too hard, not too soft. And I don't feel the seats are too small.
I am 5'7, and I tell you, if you slide the Fit's front seats all the way back, you will find the rear seat legroom begin to feel limited. Not cramped, but after you see the Versa, the difference is very obvious at once.
backy, for your own good and everyone else here, pls confirm whether the Fit you tried still feels roomy with the front seats slided ALL the way back. Did you double check this ?
Because almost any car, if the front seats are moved somewhat to the front by the sales guys, then the rear space WILL feel roomy ! If you want to check the car's REAL potential, you got to slide the front seats all the way back. Don't say I am condescending again, cause sometimes people forget to do such things.
Last but not least, I am just trying to inject some humour here. How can I even HOPE to convert anybody here ? Like I said, a person hell bent on getting a hummer is not going to be stopped.
My loyalty is not to Honda or Nissan. Nor Toyota or the domestics. I go along with Han Solo in Star Wars. I remember he said to Princess Leia : " Your highness, I answer to only one person - ME ! "
Thus my loyalty is to myself, my wallet, and my family's well-being. Which car gives us the most BANG for our buck, we go along with that car. I don't care if its Nissan, Honda, Toyota, GM etc.
Just that at this moment, among these 3 compacts, I am heavily disposed towards the Versa. But backy (or anyone else), if you have new info that can convince me that the Fit / Yaris is better, tell me.
After all, I remember what I said myself " No car maker is gonna compensate me if I make a wrong decision ".
The one I tried is this version, type 15G in Japan, interior dark black gray. Although the one I tried got a sunroof.
The seat height adjuster is of the lever pump type. And frankly speaking, I was so enamoured by the cabin's super size that I forgot to analyse the armrests ! I just sat in the rear, looking around the interior cabin space like a guy who never sat in a car before. Such is the astonishment I got !
Overall, nothing significantly negative bothers me. Even though I prefer a car with beige interior, not this dark interior.
But interior color is secondary to me. Other factors are much more important.
Now, I will make one more statement that will make some guys squirm, but I swear it's true :
If you slide the front seats all the way back (my favourite method), this Versa's rear legroom has even more space than the Toyota Camry / Honda Accord ! Perhaps only the width aspect loses out. Though not that apparent.
How's that for more Versaism ? But if it benefits you, why not embrace it ?
Unlike you, I am not trying to convince anyone that the Fit or Yaris or any other car is better than the Versa. That is a decision that each person needs to make for himself or herself, based on his/her requirements.
As for whether I have slid the Fit's driver's seat all the way back... why would I want to do that? I am buying the car for myself, and other members of my family as passengers. So when I test a car I set the driver's seat so it fits me as the driver, then I sit behind it to see how the legroom is in back. I'm not buying the car so that Shaq can drive it (and you say I have no sense of humor??).
Just that for others who wonder why I seem eager to recommend this car (is recommending something such a rare occurence in this world ?), perhaps I will use another analogy which is more accceptable.
I maybe like one of the earliest people who tried a Coca Cola when the drink debuts ages ago. And I believe there are many earlier drinkers who, after sipping that drink, shouted aloud to himself " Bingo ! What a drink ! I got to tell this to so and so ". And he goes around telling his friends / relatives what a drink it is and that they should give it a try. That is what word of mouth is all about.
That is what is on my mind now. Mind you, EVEN if someone here goes and buy the Versa due to what I said, will I get paid by Nissan ? EVEN if Nissan WANTS to pay me, how will they know which buyers are reading and " influenced " by my posts ? Remember, everybody here are using call signs.
Thus I am just like the early Coke drinkers recommending what I thought to be a good product. And I don't get paid a single cent by Coke at all ! Isn't it normal to tell many people about something good you saw, and tell EVEN more people about something BAD you encounter ?
OK. For people who ARE interested in this legroom thing (I know some people are not that particular), I know of a simple and precise way of comparing apples to apples.
OK. Fair enough, like backy said, I am buying the car for myself, fine. Then take your normal driving stance, move to the rear, remember the legroom space, and move to another car, repeat the same procedure. Use a measuring tape if you want to be more precise.
Fine backy, you are not buying the car for Shaq, BUT if you pay similar price and can get MORE for you and family, for heaven's sake, WHY NOT ?
I mean, if tomorrow there is an airline that offers first class seats at economy prices, I sure will call everyone I care about and tell them about such a rare offer. Of course I will not tell people whom I don't get along with.
Thus backy, when I tell you so many things, its because I treat you like a friend. If not, why should I bother ? I spend time and money to post here.
Have you EVER recommend a good product to your friends / relatives ? If yes, then hope you will understand what I am trying to do. Not to help Nissan make more money, but to SHARE the JOY !
However, if you say you are a loyal Honda buyer, then it's a different story. I know some people will stick to a brand and avoid others.
Getting "more" is only a good thing if "more" is really important to you. If you frequently have long-legged people riding in the back seat of your car, that roomy rear seat of the Versa will be a BIG deal--maybe the deal-clincher. But maybe for others, "more" rear seat legroom is not as important as things like more miles per gallon, or more cargo versatility, or more comfortable/adjustable driving position, or more smooth/quiet ride, or more quick, or more nimble handling, or more warranty, or "more" any number of other things. (And in some cases, "less" may be "more".)
There's a lot more to a car than its rear seat. I can't wait to drive the Versa so I can find out for myself what some of those things are.
P.S. Have you driven the Versa? I asked earlier about your driving impressions, e.g. how the stick shift works, but you didn't give us any details. Or have you just sat in the Versa, luxuriating in that humongous rear seat?
But I guess since I am already labelled a Versa nut, it won't do any good for me to elaborate further. Whatever I say you probably won't take me seriously. So allow me to present an article, 25 June '06 from the Chicago Tribune :
http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/columnists/chi-0606250234jun- 25,1,5893729.column?coll=chi-business-col&ctrack=1&cset=true
Here is the full article :
Nissan takes small to big time with Versa
Published June 25, 2006
Saved the best for last.
We've now checked out the trio of new Japanese mini cars: the Honda Fit (Transportation, April 2), Toyota Yaris (Transportation, June 11) and now the Nissan Versa.
Toyota and Honda have more brand recognition, but Nissan gets the "atta boy."
It also gets a Best Buy nod from this scribe.
The 2007 Nissan Versa that arrives in showrooms next month has the most-spirited 4-cylinder, most-nimble handling, and by far the most spacious, roomy and comfortable cabin of the three.
OK, ride is a tad stiff, tar marks at times feel like railroad ties and the name looks like a combination of letters left in your hand at the end of the Scrabble game.
And its rivals do offer better mileage: Fit 33 m.p.g. city/38 m.p.g. highway, Yaris 34/39 and Versa 30/36.
But Versa is the one that we'd hop in if all three were parked in the drive and we needed a set of wheels for work or vacation.
Why? Versa has the best road manners thanks in part to having the longest wheelbase (102.4 inches versus 96.5 inches for Fit and 100.4 for Yaris); the second-longest length (169.1 inches/157.4 Fit/169.3 Yaris); and the largest tires (15-inch standard/14-inch Fit and Yaris, with 15 inchers optional for both).
Unlike Yaris, which was buffeted and slapped by wind gusts on the open road as well as by passing semis, Versa stands its ground.
It does, however, get the least mileage of the three but only because it has the largest and most responsive engine, a 1.8-liter, 122-horsepower 4-cylinder.
Though still not massive, the engine seems to deliver much more power at takeoff and passing in Versa. High mileage is one thing, having the energy to get out of the way if you need to is even more important.
Steep inclines don't resemble mountains in the path of Versa. It has more get up and go--and keep going--than its rivals.
Where Versa falls short is price, or so we think. Nissan's not saying much about that until a few days before the car goes on sale in July.
For now Nissan is saying only that it will offer a hatchback and sedan in base S and upgraded SL versions. The hatchback, which comes out next month, will start at about $12,000; the sedan, due out this fall, will be a little more--and be 5 inches longer.
Pricing also is an issue with Fit and Yaris. Billed as alternatives to hybrids, the base price is low, but you have to navigate the optional equipment lists--and prices--carefully.
The Fit, in hatchback only, starts at $13,850, but the Sport, which starts at $15,170, is the better choice not only for the dressier rocker panels, rear spoiler and fog lights, but also the upgrade to those 15-inch all-season radials. Those are standard with Versa.
Fit, in either version, comes loaded with anti-lock brakes; side-curtain air bags; power windows, mirrors and locks; air conditioning; and AM/FM/CD sound system as standard.
Yaris starts at $12,500 with air conditioning. Power windows, locks, mirrors and ABS are part of a $2,175 option package with Yaris. They also are part of the SL upgrade to the Versa. Stay tuned for price.
Versa, like the others, skips power seats. But, unlike them, offers a power sunroof as an option. And Versa makes Bluetooth hands-free phone system and satellite radio available as options.
The Japanese imports gained a foothold in the U.S. by selling high-mileage cars basically at a fixed price without having to spend a week checking off options. There, Fit, Yaris and Versa break from the past.
We tested the Versa SL with the optional continuously variable transmission, or CVT (a 6-speed manual is standard); the convenience package with power windows, mirrors and locks; and Intelligent Key.
With Intelligent Key, you carry a key fob and when you get in the car and the electronics embedded in it allow you to twist the plastic lever where the ignition key would be inserted and start the car. Such a key is usually reserved for luxury cars, and it saves the chore of fumbling with a key. But without the fob and its electronic magic, you don't go anywhere.
And kudos to Nissan for attention to details.
The glove box, for example, may be the largest in the industry. Reach hand in and by the time you strike the wall, your elbow will likely be inside as well. First time we reached in we expected to touch the front bumper. You won't get a laptop computer inside, but women should be able to hide a purse there.
There's also a covered storage bin in the center of the dash. Like the glove box, it is surprisingly deep. You can toss in keys, wallet or cell phone but better have long fingers to retrieve them.
Other nice touches include stowage compartments in the rear doors, stowage compartments plus beverage holders in the front doors and cupholders in the center console as well as rear-seat pull-down armrest.
The armrest between driver/passenger hides a little stowage compartment and a power plug for the cell phone.
Lift the light hatchback lid and the cargo compartment is a decent size. Sadly, a thin, cheap sheet of what appears to be carpeted cardboard serves as a parcel shelf for the back seat and a cargo cover. It lifts when you raise the hatchlid and is more of an obstacle to loading or unloading items than it is a service in hiding what you stash there.
If you need more cargo room, the rear seat backs fold flat, but they stand about 8 inches higher than the rear cargo floor rather than lying flat with it.
Lots of leg, head and arm room in front and rear seats, unlike the Fit, which was like motoring around in a phone booth.
And the cloth seats are well cushioned and offer above-average support for long-distance travel. But we wouldn't object if Nissan should opt to extend the seat cushion bottoms another inch for increased thigh support for the long haul.
Nissan doesn't divulge sales expectations--not surprising for a company that keeps price a secret.
Taking price out of the equation, Versa gets the nod if looking for high mileage without sacrificing room, comfort, looks and amenities.
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2007 Nissan Versa
Price as tested: N/A
Wheelbase: 102.4 inches
Length: 169.1 inches
Engine: 1.8-liter, 122-h.p. 4 cylinder
Transmission: Continuously variable automatic
CITY 30 m.p.g.
HWY 36 m.p.g.
THE STICKER
$12,000 base (estimated)
Extra-cost options will include CVT and 4-speed automatic; anti-lock brakes; power windows, locks, mirrors; sunroof; and Intelligent Key, which allows you to start the car by twisting the ignition switch without using a key.
PLUSES
A mini with maxi cabin space and decent cargo room.
Rear seats fold flat to hold more cargo, if needed.
Excellent mileage without going hybrid.
Side-curtain air bags standard.
A glove box so big it echoes.
MINUSES
Suspect it won't be hard to run up the price with the options.
End of article.
The funny thing is, Nissan announced pricing on the Versa awhile ago. Those Tribune writers need to get with it, don't they? Maybe do some more research on Edmunds.com.
Edit:
Not to quibble with the Tribune but this is NOT "flat":
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http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/business/industries/automotive/148845- 58.htm
Full article :
Test Drive: Nissan's Versa holds its own among new crop of subcompacts
By Matt Nauman
Mercury News
Back when I was in grade school, U.S. automakers brought out a flurry of subcompacts to appease a car-buying public that had started to worry about the supply of gasoline.
More than 30 years later, those econoboxes -- including the Ford Pinto, Chevrolet Vega and AMC Gremlin -- are punch lines to jokes about bad cars. All three make the top 15 in Richard Porter's collection of 50 ``Crap Cars'' (Bloomsbury, $14.95). You'll find all three in Eric Peters' ``Automotive Atrocities: The Cars We Love to Hate'' (Motorbooks International, $19.95). Tony Davis' ``Lemon! Sixty Heroic Automotive Failures'' (Thunder's Mouth Press, $12.95) takes a more global view of dismal cars, and only includes the Pinto.
I mention all this because one of my grade-school-age sons just had his year-end picnic and I drove a new subcompact, the 2007 Nissan Versa, to the event.
The Versa, the Toyota Yaris and the Honda Fit are a new gaggle of subcompacts all arriving in U.S. showrooms this year. This time around, they make their debut just as consumers are letting worries about $3-a-gallon gasoline convince them that it's time to buy a small car.
And the Versa might be the best in the bunch.
That's because it's bigger and more powerful than the Fit, which I like a lot, too, and the Yaris, which I don't like that much.
For my son's picnic, where they met for the first time another class of third-graders they had been pen-pals with all year, I stuffed the Versa with various necessities. It easily accommodated two coolers, two bags of food, a couple of folding chairs, two kickballs and five hula hoops.
The fact that all that stuff fit easily into a subcompact -- I ended up folding one of the two rear seats, but that was for better access rather than a need for more cargo capacity -- shows you how different these new models are.
All three have merits. The Versa, Fit and Yaris have starting prices between $12,000 and $14,000. All three get highway fuel economy that cozies up to 40 mpg. The Fit only comes as a four-door hatchback. The Yaris can be had as a four-door sedan or three-door lift-back. The Versa is made as both a four-door hatch or a four-door sedan (but it's not on sale until December.)
I found all three surprisingly spacious, and both the Versa and Fit offered something extra -- a clever design, a neat interior bit -- to please a buyer. The Yaris seemed willing to rely on Toyota's solid reputation for quality, but didn't present anything innovative or distinct.
The Versa is powered by a 1.8-liter four-cylinder engine that makes 122 horsepower. That easily tops the 109 horses provided by the Fit, and the 106 found in the Yaris. The Versa is a bit heavier than the others, but the combination of engine and weight makes it feel like a more substantial car.
The three available transmissions -- a six-speed manual, a four-speed automatic and what Nissan calls its Xtronic CVT (continuously variable transmission) -- really affect the driving flavor of the car. I drove the CVT, which produces the best gas mileage, and found it smooth and a good match for the engine's power. Nissan says it will have installed more than 1 million CVTs in its vehicles, worldwide, by the end of 2007. Still, it expects most U.S. buyers to pick the more familiar automatic transmission on the Versa.
While I initially found the Versa's exterior design to be rather odd, it did become more appealing with familiarity. A four-door hatch is designed for function, not beauty, after all. Our pre-production test car was painted red.
The Versa is 169 inches long, 67 inches wide and about 60 inches tall. It's small enough for comfortable city driving and tight parking spaces, but it has great room for four adults and considerable cargo space.
The interior is vast for such a small car. The back-seat leg and head room is terrific. Cargo space -- 16.9 cubic feet with the seats up, and triple that with them down -- is great, too.
The interior design seems more upscale than the Yaris, but less purposely trendy than the Fit. Chrome rings around the instruments and bits of faux carbon fiber as interior trim make a good impression.
On the road, this front-engine, front-wheel-drive car felt energetic. It wasn't fast at all, but it was fast enough. I think the Fit has better handling, but the Versa does fine on twisting back roads, too.
Versa offers more than either the Fit or Yaris. It's longer, bigger and has a more powerful engine. The trade-off is that its fuel economy suffers a bit in comparison. Depending on the transmission of choice, the Versa provides 28 to 30 mpg in the city and 34 to 36 mpg on the highway, according to the federal government's ratings. The Yaris does better in both the city (34 mpg) and the highway (39 to 40 mpg) as does the Fit (31 to 33 mpg in the city and 37 to 38 mpg on the highway).
While it's unclear if Versa, Fit and Yaris will become as omnipresent as Sentra, Civic and Corolla (the three small cars that used to populate the bottom of the Nissan, Honda and Toyota lineups, respectively), it seems certain they won't become fodder for ``Crap Cars: The Sequel.''
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http://lfpress.ca/cgi-bin/publish.cgi?p=138587&x=articles&s=wheels
BEHIND THE WHEEL -- 2007 NISSAN VERSA: Big space in a small package
Clare Dear, Wheels Editor
The London Free Press
May 12, 2006
NASHVILLE -- Nissan concedes it hasn't been a real player in the entry-level market since its Sentra Classic faded from the scene in 1993. Its current Sentra, more compact than sub-compact, has been doing double duty -- with mixed results.
That lack of a suitable product can be a significant disadvantage for an automaker, especially in Canada where the small-car market accounts for about 50 per cent of total annual sales and entry-level models make up 20 per cent within the segment.
Obviously, there's plenty of opportunity for vehicles in this chunk of the market and now Nissan dealers can roll up there sleeves and start fighting for their share with an impressive new product, the 2007 Versa.
"We're optimistic what the new Versa can do for Nissan in Canada," national corporate and product planning director Ian Forsyth told a group of journalists gathered here in Music City for the car's driving debut.
Forsyth is expecting dealers will sell 30,000 Versas in its first full year in the market -- a key factor in Nissan's ambitious goal of boosting its overall national sales past 100,000 vehicles. That's an increase of about 30,000 from its 2005 total.
The company's optimism is bolstered by the fact they believe they have a real winner in the entry-level market -- and initial impressions here seem to support that notion.
While products at the bottom of the automotive pecking order are often saddled with compromises to meet pricing targets, Nissan has decided to skip the shortcuts and offer consumers a sophisticated vehicle that's similar in exterior size to competitive brands, but loaded with more features, performance -- and room -- than you'd expect in a small car.
In fact, the most impressive feature of this car is the amount of space inside. Chuck Plewes, product planning manager for the Versa, says Nissan has accomplished this by "inside-out thinking."
"The Versa isn't just another urban runabout," he says. "It's been designed for people to drive great distances in comfort."
Our day behind the wheel here backed up his point. Driving on a variety of interstate and secondary roads for several hours, there was never a feeling of being cramped in a small cabin. Despite being on the larger side of the human body scale, no elbows were rubbed with the other front-seat occupant; there were no sore hips and shoulders from too-narrow seating spaces. And legroom was superb, front and rear. In fact, the space behind the front seat for legs and other parts, even with the bucket well back on its tracks, is amazing. Ditto for headroom, even in the back row.
Interestingly, as Plewes noted, the useable cabin space in the little Versa is a millimeter longer, front to rear, than Nissan's full-size Maxima sedan. He says the overall interior volume (2,682 litres in the five-door hatchback) and rear legroom (965 millimetres) are class-leading dimensions.
Nissan's designers have also gone to great lengths to give the Versa an upscale feel. Instead of the hard, chunky plastic frequently found in subcompact interiors, surfaces such as the dash cover, armrests and interior door panels are soft to the touch.
The large seats, too, have a quality feel, with high-grade coverings wrapping around dual-density foam cushioning for good comfort and support.
The hatchback's 60/40 rear bench folds flat for additional space for bulky items. They don't drop to create a flat cargo floor, however -- there's a sizeable "step" with the seats folded.
end of part 1
The Versa's stylish design has cut into the accessibility to the cargo area -- the rear hatch opening tapers in to accommodate the tail light assemblies, restricting the size of the opening. It may never be a problem, at least until you're trying to stuff some bulky item in the back.
The Versa, while designed for the North American market, has been built on the global "B" platform Nissan shares with its parent, Renault. The result is a vehicle that has a hint of European handling dialled into its suspension. It sticks to the road well, without comprising ride.
The steering has an electric power assist and the Versa sits on 15-inch wheels. Brakes are power assisted, with discs up front and drums on the rear. An anti-lock braking system with electronic force distribution and brake assist is available at extra cost.
The Versa certainly has plenty of pep -- at one point on a Tennessee interstate we found ourselves cruising along well above the legal limit and the 1.8-litre inline four was just purrin' along. Its 122 horses (more than the Toyota Yaris, Honda Fit, Kia Rio or Chevy Aveo) and 127 lb.-ft. of torque are more than adequate in this 1,225-kilogram car.
A newly designed six-speed manual transmission is standard and while its gearing was well suited to the car, picking those gears was less pleasant. The shifting linkage in one manually equipped Versa we drove seemed to be a bit clunky and the gate into sixth gear was at times difficult to find. In time, I'm sure practice would make that gear change smoother, but fourth gear did come into play a few times when sixth was the intended choice.
Of course, you could avoid the whole shifty business by opting for a transmission that looks after itself, and with the Versa you have a choice. An electronically controlled four-speed automatic with overdrive is available, or you could opt for Nissan's nifty Xtronic CVT (continuously variable transmission.)
The CVT technology has been developed in conjunction with JATCO and is acknowledged to be superior in its design and performance. It delivers the engine's power smoothly while improving the car's fuel efficiency.
The only issue with the CVT-equipped model was noticeably more engine noise when accelerating to pass, compared with the manual model. The CVT seemed to let the engine spin to higher (and harsher) revs than when the driver was controlling engine speed through the six-speed box.
Here's how Transport Canada rates the Versa's fuel consumption:
With the six-speed manual: 7.9 litres/100 km (36 m.p.g.) in city driving; 6.3 litres/100 km (45 m.p.g.) on the highway.
With the four-speed automatic: 8.5 litres/100 km (33 m.p.g.) in city driving; 6.2 litres/100 km (46 m.p.g.) on the highway.
With the CVT: 7.9 litres/100 km (36 mpg) in city driving; 6.1 litres/100 km (46 m.p.g.) on the highway.
The five-door Versa hatchback is scheduled to start arriving at dealerships from the assembly plant in Mexico in July, while the four-door sedan should be available in January. Pricing hasn't been announced, but expect the hatchback to start around $14,500; the sedan should retail for about $17,000 to $18,000.
A sport package, including a power sunroof, fog lights and a body kit with front, rear and side sill spoilers, will be available for the hatchback in the fall.
I have always been a fan of car ads, especially unusual, funny ones. Because many car ads are quite mundane, mostly only showing us the car cruising on the road and the interior.
I came across this Nissan Versa TV ad in Nissan Taiwan's website after hanging around the website. Do not be intimidated by language differences. Just playing around and clicking will yield something !
This TV ad is quite unusual. Maybe some will think it's silly, but I think sometimes an ad have to be a bit silly to be entertaining. For those with high speed internet access, its a breeze to watch this one :
On the link below, enter the website. Then after the page have loaded, click on the white Versa sedan near the bottom right hand corner. A Windows Media file will automatically load, and before long, the TV ad will start. Complete with sound !
Enjoy and tell me what you think. Silly, stupid maybe, but definitely unusual ! The link is :
http://www.nissan.com.tw/car/tiida/index.asp?level=2&top=2#
Later after I found other TV ads, I will post here. Friends, if you find any interesting car TV ads, even if done by other car models / brands, pls let me know. I want to have a look.
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