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Honda Odyssey: Problems & Solutions (2005+ Models)

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  • dc_driverdc_driver Member Posts: 712
    1. Transmission problems appear to be endemic to the previous generation Odyssey. I'm unaware of indications that Honda hasn't fixed this problem with the current generation.

    2. The humming/droning issue appears to be either a) highly subjective (most don't hear a thing) and/or b) fairly uncommon. Honestly, we've got nearly 25k miles on our '06 and I have NO idea what humming/droning noise other people are hearing. Maybe I'm just not very sensitive.

    3. Sliding door malfunctions - also appear to be sporadic. I think the mechanism is more prone to dirt gumming up the works than it should be and the sliders could have been better integrated into the body. We had an early issue with a noisy slider but it was caused to dirt buildup in the mechanism (we've since had no issues) BUT, I think virtually all minivan makes report SOME problems with their sliders. Are any of these truly trouble-free?

    4. Power steering problems? What power steering problems?


    As a first time Honda buyer (bought an 06 Odyssey EX-L) I was a little concerned about the previous generation's tranny issues. However I was pretty happy with the 5yr/60Kmpowertrain warranty.. From what I read, it also seemed that Honda really took care of most folks who had tranny problems (even outside of the warranty period).

    The wife and I can either not hear the droning issue, or our van does not have it. At any rate, I am not quite sure if this is an issue that should stop folks from test driving/buying the van.

    We have had zero issues with our van to date. It is the most comfortable/function vehicle we have owned. I definitely recommend that folks drive the Odyssey when shopping for a minivan. There is a good reason why it constantly wins awards year after year...
  • blackexv6blackexv6 Member Posts: 503
    If you are expecting bullet proof reliability & error free design I think you will be disapointed. The '05+ Odyssey is definitely not the car that lives up to the "old Honda reputation".

    I think you are answering your own question. Would you buy a car that has at least 4 major mechanical problems?

    Also, if you are mechanically savy you will notice all of the design flaws & problems. My wife turns the radio up and doesn't notice anything until I show her. She is problably part of the majority that is happy with their Ody.

    We bought our '06 Odyssey to get out of a first year lemon '03 Accord EXV6. Little did I know that a second year Odyssey has just as many problems.

    Here is my laundry list for our '06 EXL/RES+NAV w/2k miles that the dealer is working on:
    1. Droning noise at 2000rpm.
    2. Power steering rack clunking when backing up + parking.
    3. Transmission slamming on downshift to first (pushed the car forward with the brake applied at stoplight).
    4. Passenger & driver slider door handles difficult (almost impossible) to open - power mechanisms o.k.)
    5. Front Door hinges clunking, not smooth operation.

    My dealer said Honda will reimburse my car payment for the month. The car sat at the dealership for over a week and none of the problems are resolved yet.

    I would unload this lemon also except I am unwilling to take a $4k-5k loss after two months of ownership. If the Pilot was available w/both RES & NAV, I would beg the dealer to make a fair deal on a trade.
  • dc_driverdc_driver Member Posts: 712
    So, you had a "lemon" Accord, bought a "lemon" Odyssey, and are now thinking of getting a Honda Pilot?

    Sorry, but if I were you I would stay away from Honda period. I had a lemon VW and would not consider buying another VW for some time....

    I am sorry to hear about all your issues, our Odyssey does not have any of the issues you listed. So far our Honda has lived up to its reputation.
  • dsrtrat2dsrtrat2 Member Posts: 223
    I have an '06 EX-L with 25K miles. This is my 4th ODY and it is a definite step up in many small ways from the other three. I have had the brake pads replaced under warranty as they were making unusual noises. I get 20-27 MPG in suburban-highway driving. We test drove the Sienna before buying this one.

    All makes and models are going to have some problems. I look at Consumer Reports for a car's reliability as they have 100s of people responding to their annual surveys.

    BTW I did get the extended warranty just for my piece of mind.
  • rorrrorr Member Posts: 3,630
    "So, you had a "lemon" Accord, bought a "lemon" Odyssey, and are now thinking of getting a Honda Pilot?"

    I was wondering the exact same thing. Maybe he's a glutton for punishment.
  • dsrtrat2dsrtrat2 Member Posts: 223
    BTW do not, I repeat, DO NOT get run flat tires on any vehicle. Read through this forum and you will see why. That means don't get the Touring Ody, unless the '07 doesn't come with the run flats.
  • blackexv6blackexv6 Member Posts: 503
    Maybe he's a glutton for punishment.

    No...just a guy with bad luck. I'm just looking for the cheapest way out of a bad situation. Honda for Honda will be the easiest way out.

    Also, my brother-in-law has a Pilot and it seems to be pretty reliable - no problems yet w/20k. The transmission has the upgraded 4 shaft design.
  • rorrrorr Member Posts: 3,630
    "Here is my laundry list for our '06 EXL/RES+NAV w/2k miles that the dealer is working on:
    1. Droning noise at 2000rpm.
    2. Power steering rack clunking when backing up + parking.
    3. Transmission slamming on downshift to first (pushed the car forward with the brake applied at stoplight).
    4. Passenger & driver slider door handles difficult (almost impossible) to open - power mechanisms o.k.)
    5. Front Door hinges clunking, not smooth operation."


    Has your service advisor acknowledged that these 5 items are issues which are not 'normal' for the Odyssey?
  • blackexv6blackexv6 Member Posts: 503
    The dealer is choosing to work on one problem at a time. Right now we are waiting for an engine mount that is supposed to fix the droning problem. The A-pipe was replaced two weeks ago with no success.
  • rorrrorr Member Posts: 3,630
    "The dealer is choosing to work on one problem at a time."

    That's fine but not what I meant. Has your service advisor ACKNOWLEDGED that each of those issues are bonafide problems and not simply 'characteristic' of Odyssey's in general?

    For instance - the difficult to operate slider door handles. Are they any more difficult to operate than other Odyssey's or are they essentially the same?

    He is choosing to work on one problem at a time? Why? For what possible reason would they have for waiting on a part to address a droning issue without looking at the steering rack? Or the slider door handles? That makes little sense... :confuse:
  • meateatermeateater Member Posts: 123
    Funny. I have zero issues with our 05 EX.

    Just took a 900 mile trip in my wife's 05 EX. I rarely drive it cause its always loaded with kid and school stuff. When everyone falls asleep after a few hours on the road and the radio's off and its just me and the van rolling along at 80 mph, you have a real sense of the vehicle you're driving. This van is solid. Great machine.
  • hondaturtlehondaturtle Member Posts: 8
    badgerfan:

    There were no lights on anywhere. As I stated, I had turned off all interior lights using the dash switch.

    I believe sebring95 is correct...the open door must send a continuous electrical signal to the computer, thus draining the battery after 3 days.

    Has anyone left their Ody with everything turned off and locked up for a week or two, say at an airport or in the garage while they were away? If so, was the battery dead or alive after this period?

    Thanks.

    hondaturtle
  • sebring95sebring95 Member Posts: 3,241
    I have been away for weeks at a time and no battery issues. I didn't leave the door open though :P

    The owners manual says to not leave the headlights in the "on" position if the vehicle is going to sit for awhile. I normally run with them "on" all the time so I have to remember to shut them down before leaving it sit.
  • vvzvvz Member Posts: 1
    I have a 2005 EXL-RES with 8000 miles on the OD. In the last 3000, I have burned thru a quart of oil in moderate driving. The dealership told me that this was normal, and acceptable up to a quart every thousand miles! I don't buy that at all. Anyone else have this issue?
  • ti48ti48 Member Posts: 14
    "acceptable up to a quart every thousand miles!" that's a lie. You can always go to other dealer and have it checked out. Might be some serious problem with engine :(
  • sebring95sebring95 Member Posts: 3,241
    "acceptable up to a quart every thousand miles!"

    Technically (as in, on paper) that could be an acceptable use. However, if it's an engine type that's not known for using oil, I'd have a hard time accepting it. There are motors out there that tend to use oil, but it usually effects ALL of that type of motor. These 3.5L Honda motors are not known for using oil and if one is doing so, I'd be concerned about it. But it's hard to get the dealer to do anything because the technical poeple build those big variances in there (1qt/1000 miles) to allow for build variances.

    However, 1qt in 3k miles could be a lot of things and I wouldn't get too worked up until there is a pattern. When was the oil changed originally (i assume around 5k miles?). If so, are you sure the oil was topped off after the oil change? It could have been a quart low right from the start if the tech didn't change it correctly. If it consistently uses 1qt every 3k miles then it would be smart to investigate further.
  • arbabcarbabc Member Posts: 36
    I just took delivery last Saturday of our brand new 2006 Odyssey EXL with RES and NAV in Redrock Pearl. Annoyingly, the passenger-side rear window will not work. :surprise: I checked the fuse. Its fine. I did not dismantle the the door to check the harness connections. Dealer has the car back on Monday to look at it.

    Anyone else face this and what was the diagnosis? Thanks.
  • sebring95sebring95 Member Posts: 3,241
    I'm sure it's nothing big..unplugged harnees, switch, etc. The dealer should have found this during vehicle prep. Common to find little things like this during prep and they're fixed before anyone is the wiser. That's why a good dealer actually DOES the prep instead of relying on the customer to find issues that they "checked off", literally.
  • hayneldanhayneldan Member Posts: 657
    Is the van a 2 cycle or 4 cycle?
  • jntjnt Member Posts: 316
    It is true that car makers claim that 1 quart/1000 miles is normal for oil consumption. I had that on my 92 Pontiac and my complaint was met with the same response. I had this vehicle for 13 years and the oil consumption is always in the same 1 quart/ 1000 miles.

    It has to do with improper wear or seating of the oil ring on the piston(s). My 05 Odys EX does not have problem. Neither does my GM van.

    So it is just luck on any normal vehicle. Unless if it is the Nissan's 2.5L 4 cylinder engine being used on Sentra or Altima: they have to recall these vehicles due to excessive oil consumption and potential of engine fire.

    jt
  • steven23steven23 Member Posts: 2
    I just bought my 2006 Odyssey EX over the Memorial weekend. So far I only have 200 miles on the van, but I am experiencing problems at low gear. When I step on gas to pick up the speed from 0 to 25 mph, the van hesitated, had high rpm and then jumped forward. It happened several times already. It seems that the automatic transmission did not quickly respond to the speed change and did not shift to higher gear on time so the van experienced a jump forward. Although the problem did not occur every time I stopped at the red light, it made me worried that there is something wrong with the transmission. I asked the guy who sold me the van and he told me it's just normal since the van is still in the break-in period. I am going to ask the local Honda service to take a look at it next week.

    Does anyone had this experience before? Is it really just "normal" during the break-in period? Any tip is greatly appreciated.
  • jennebejennebe Member Posts: 1
    I just bought an 06 odyssey LX almost two weeks ago. I know most of the people who are on this board have the EX or above. This was my first new car purchase and I really wanted an odyssey, but the LX was more in my price range and it came standard with so many things that other makes didn't--like Dodge and Toyota-- (side curtain air bags, VSA, privacy glass, keyless entry, quad bucket seats, dual climate control, etc.)

    Anyway, today I noticed that the drives side sliding door does not lock at all--not with the remote or by locking with the switch from the inside. It will unlock with the remote, as well as the switch, but to lock it you have to manually push the lock down. I was really upset to discover this and I don't know if it's been like this since I bought it or not.

    A few days ago, I did lightly bump into my husbands truck while backing up and it scratched the bumper a little, but that's all. The damage to the bumper is on the same side that the lock malfunction is. My husband said they prob. won't fix the lock now, even though it should be under warranty, because they will see the oh so minor damage on the bumper and say that I caused the problem with the lock when I did that. Any advice? I am upset to have something go wrong so soon.
  • dc_driverdc_driver Member Posts: 712
    This does not sound normal. My 4 week old Odyssey never did this.. Sounds like your transmission is slipping...
  • duperduper Member Posts: 127
    I'd bring it back to the dealer and ask them to fix it. A scratch on the bumper has nothing to do with the lock not locking.
  • user777user777 Member Posts: 3,341
    agreed. the only time i believe one should be experiencing a delay such as this is if you apply heavy pedal on a slippery surface (perhaps just wet), and the vehicle engages the TCS (Traction Control System) to counter-act wheel spin until the tires grab.

    time to bring your vehicle right back in (and possibly to another dealership).
  • villagegrampsvillagegramps Member Posts: 5
    duper, thanks for the suggestion, but the route mode seems to make no difference. This past weekend, went on a 350 mile trip. At 3+ hours from home, it showed 3 hours remaining and didn't change until it got to about 2 hrs away when it moved to 2 hours, then finally it showed one hour remaining and didn't move off that figure until it really was getting closer than the 1 hour. During all that time, I frequently tried every possible setting: direct, easy, avoid streets, prefer interstates, etc, and made zero difference. The remaining time dropped on the whole hour mark, and even then, only approximately right, until it got to less than one hour remaining to go on a trip. This is lousey for planning during a long trip. Does anyone else with a Nav have this kind of problem?
  • cstilescstiles Member Posts: 465
    I currently own two Hondas with navigation systems. An 05 RL and an 06 Odyssey. I have also driven 20 to 30 other cars over the past few years with navigation systems (including Hertz rental cars).

    I have seen this happen numerous times, where the estimated time to destination is not very reliable. I guess I've just never gotten too worked up over this little foible. It's easy to calculate in my own head what the time to destination should be, so I've always just ignored this on the navi systems I've encountered. I guess I'm trying to say that it's relatively common and I wouldn't get too worked up over it, as long as the system is working otherwise.

    I realize that this is not a very technical answer to your question, but I just wanted to say that I've experienced this numerous times in Hondas and non-Hondas.
  • rcouttsrcoutts Member Posts: 1
    Allison,
    Have an 06 EXL for eight months and it has been great. Our first Honda van after many (6) domestic models (4 kids)
    The power on this van is soooooo much better than the GM's and Chrysler. Driving thru the hills of WV on our way to Florida was a breeze. Mileage OK also. The only issue I have had is the paint on the rear bumper is falling off. Really bad and getting the run-a-round from the dealer (whats new!)
    I too wasn't sure which to buy, the Honda or the Toyota. My decision was made for me when I questioned a driver of a brand new Toyota at a stopped traffic light. Asked him if he had to do it over again, Honda or Toyota? He said Honda.....
  • master1master1 Member Posts: 340
    "Is the van a 2 cycle or 4 cycle? "
    -----------------------------------------------------------

    Hmmm....The Odyssey is a V6. Not a 4cylinder and definetly not a 2 cylinder! It's not a motor cycle. :surprise:
  • plasmoplasmo Member Posts: 16
    I checked other similar posts, but not sure if this is the same problem I am encountering:

    We have a new 2006 ODY EX-L with about 1000 miles, and have noticed that every time we start the car, and within the first 10 seconds of moving (usually happens right after a turn) a "grinding" noise and feel is noticed on our feet (driver's side) when accellerating on the foot pedal. The noise lasts for about 1/2 second, then never occurs again,...until the car's ignition is completely shut down, and restarted later.
    The problem is consistent, and is felt on the foot pedal when it occurs.

    Does anyone know what this may be, or if it is normal? THANKS
  • dc_driverdc_driver Member Posts: 712
    This is normal. It is the ABS check.

    I noticed the same thing a did a quick search which revealed that all the Odysseys do this.
  • kobokokoboko Member Posts: 34
    Hi, I just bought a new '06 Odyssey few weeks ago and am hearing exactly the same brief "grinding" sound when the vehicle is first started-- within first 10-15secs or right at 10mph. It never returns after that, unless you switch the car off. Glad to hear it is normal, I was about to call the dealership but decided to check the forums first. ABS check sounds kinda weird, haven't had any other vehicle do this, well as long as it is normal then I guess I shouldbn't be worried. Thanks!
  • dc_driverdc_driver Member Posts: 712
    All vehicles with ABS have checks, it just seems like Honda's is a little noiser :)
  • user777user777 Member Posts: 3,341
    and if you are really concerned about it, an owner can go to their dealership and have a tech run the ABS self check with the vehicle at a stand-still so the customer can be assured what they hear/feel is the ABS self check. I think there was a Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) issued on this because people inquire about it so often.

    very normal stuff.
  • arbabcarbabc Member Posts: 36
    I just got my Odyssey back from Jack Matia Honda in Elyria, Ohio. I am furious. :mad: They used a bare screwdriver to pry off the door panel, leaving bare metal gashes at about three inch intervals. They also broke a hook for the built in shades. If that was not enough, the ivory interior now looks like someone took couple of scoops of soot and smeared it all over the carpet, mats and door protector. Left finger prints all over the glass and did not wash the car.

    In addition to repairing the window, I had them install fog lights and a day/night mirror. The carpet, floor mats and drivers door well area has also been blackened. The dash plastic has been dinged up as well.

    My salesman told me last week when I bought the car: "Price may be why you bought the first car here, the service department is why you will buy the next car here."

    :confuse: Really?! LOL!

    Don't worry, I don't give up easy. I'll be back tomorrow morning at 7:00AM to speak to the Service Manager. I am leaving the car as is till show and tell.

    I can't wait to fill out a Honda customer survey!
  • jtp0414jtp0414 Member Posts: 4
    Within 2 weeks of buying a new Odyssey, I managed to leave the lights on overnight, draining the battery. I had to jump it the next morning and enter the radio code. Ever since, the DVD player has been rendered useless. It has the light on indicating there is a DVD in it, but there is none. Pushing eject, play, stop, etc. does absolutely nothing. The radio and CD player work just fine. Is there something else that needs to be done (other than taking it back to the dealer) to bring the DVD back amongst the living?

    Jeff
    :sick:
  • steven23steven23 Member Posts: 2
    I brought my van to the dealership this morning to have them check on the transmission issue. One of the foremen test drove it with me but couldn't "repeat the problem" I described. We tried speeding up in different ways and the transmission responded normally. He said the computer scan of the transmission also didn't show anything abnormal or slipping. He also called Honda manufacturer and they told him that they hadn't had any similar complaints from other customers. The only thing that the dealer could suggest is to keep driving the van. If the problem occurs again, bring it back, leave it overnight and they will see if they can "repeat the problem" the following morning when the car is cold.

    I really don't know what I am supposed to do now. I guess I will just keep driving it to see if the problem will just go away. But the thing is, if the problem only happens 1 out of 10 times, chances are the dealer won't be able to catch it even if I bring it back. Any tips or suggestion?
  • keyur75keyur75 Member Posts: 14
    My 2005 Ody - steering wheel was shaking at highway speeds since the time, I drove out of the dealership.

    The dealerhip fixed it twice in the first 3 months of the puchase by - balancing the tires.
    But the problem started again as soon as I had a tire rotation done.

    They rebalanced it again (3rd time) in less than 10 months. I am surprised and worried that a Brand new Vehicle is giving me problems.
    Please advise ? Could this be a lemon ?
  • kobokokoboko Member Posts: 34
    I would say its a defective tire, esp since problem recurred after a tire rotation. I would not get too worried, I really doubt it has anything to do with your vehicle. Your tires should be covered under a separate warranty by the tire manufacturer.
  • ljn68ljn68 Member Posts: 1
    I bought 2006 Odyssey EX-L on March, and have the same problem. I called the dealer and they said it was normal. Today I got an email further addressing this problem:

    "I am following up with you in regards to a phone call that you received from American Honda. In that call you stated you intermittently feel a glitch in the pedals. If this is a slight buzzing sensation felt when you first start moving, it is actually normal. Your ABS pump activates when moving forward between 6 to 9mph, it does this to pump the system up to make sure it is pressurized in case it is needed. The sensation you are feeling is the pump motor running for a few seconds. If you have any questions or you feel this is not an accurate description, please call or email me at the number below. "

    I hope this helps, and please let me know if you got different explaination from your dealer. Thanks, and enjoy your new toy!
  • dc_driverdc_driver Member Posts: 712
    That does not sound like the problem that steven23 described (rpm jumping, tranny hesitating).

    Steven23, the fact that you at least brought it to the dealer is the right move. They now have documented the issue in their computer and seem very willing to work with you.

    It may not be anything. If it is a transmission problem, you will know in due time. Transmission issues (slipping) will definitely get worse over time.

    Hopefully you will not have the problem again, but if you do it sounds like you have a dealer that is trying to help you out.

    Good luck.
  • master1master1 Member Posts: 340
    I'm sorry, but many Honda Odyssey's, Pilot's and Acura MDX's have this problem! :( They cannot be fixed or solved. Honda is not fixing it as of now because it would obviously be a huge recall and they don't want to bother.

    No owner has actually done something about this. Why don't you use the lemon law? I wrote to Honda headquarters in Japan and they are denying this issue. Use the lemon law because it is impossible to fix this because it's in the design of these vehicles.

    :lemon:
  • cstilescstiles Member Posts: 465
    Master1---if it's in the design of the Odyssey, why am I not having this problem?
  • master1master1 Member Posts: 340
    Cstiles --- MANY are having this issue. IF you don't have it, you're lucky, but many do.
    Many doesn't mean all.
  • duperduper Member Posts: 127
    That was the first post I've read about this problem on the '05 Odyssey.

    I don't recall seeing the same problem posted on any other forums.

    Honda sold close (or even more than) to 60k Odyssey and I wonder how MANY is MANY. I personally know 6 people own '05 and none has this issue. :confuse:

    My Pathfinder had shimmy at freeway speed and it turned out to be tire balance. I took it to America's Tires and they had the Hunter9000(sp?) system and they were all good.
  • master1master1 Member Posts: 340
    If you type in "steering wheel vibrations" in the search on the top you will find a few complaints about it, especially in the Honda Pilots -- same chasis. There are many more complaints about it in the 2004 Honda Odyssey Problems and Solutions page.
  • cstilescstiles Member Posts: 465
    This forum is for 2005+ Odysseys. The 2004 and the 2005 are not the same vehicle, Holmes.
  • rorrrorr Member Posts: 3,630
    "....especially in the Honda Pilots -- same chasis. There are many more complaints about it in the 2004 Honda Odyssey Problems and Solutions page."

    QUICK! What is the commonality between the Pilot, the '04 Odyssey, and the '05 Odyssey??????

    Um, maybe it's the TIRES??? :surprise:

    Nah, tires couldn't have anything to do with steering wheel vibrations. It MUST be the van....
  • user777user777 Member Posts: 3,341
    or the mud :P

    i remember driving through a muddy field. some mud dried on the inside of one of my rims.

    can you say vibration? :)

    but seriously, i wonder if there was a sudden onset of vibration for some users. if so, it's always possible balancing weights have been moved or lost because of curb scrapes.

    yeah, bad tires or alignment would be other possibilities.
  • dc_driverdc_driver Member Posts: 712
    Okay, I did the search and found a total of five individual posters who mentioned this problem for a 2005+ Honda Odyssey. I did not bother to look at the Pilot or the previous generation Odyssey since the 05+ is a completely new design.

    Three of the posts mentioned actually gave some detail and mentioned a "slight vibration" at highway speeds around 70+ miles an hour..

    I am no mechanic, but to me that sounds like an unbalanced wheel or a tire issue (not enough air, defect, etc).

    I think it is unfair of you to claim that this is happening to "MANY, many" Odysseys.. Unfortunately many potential buyers may see this post and think there is a major issue with the 05+ Odysseys. Clearly there is not. Doesn't it seem logical that out of the thousands and thousand of Honda Odysseys on the road a select few may have unbalanced tires?

    For the record, my 06 Odyssey does not exhibit any "shimming" at highway speeds....
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