Stories from the Sales Frontlines

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  • delthekingdeltheking Member Posts: 1,152
    Hi, I just wanted to provide a link to a used car dealer-- their prices are outrageous,,I can't even believe that they post such prices.
    Do they really think people are that stupid?? :confuse:

    link title

    And they finance folks with poor credit..Those folks are going to be in financial disaster. :sick:
  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984
    Good Golly, Miss Molly! Fifteen year old cars with high mileage for $11k-$13k?! This dealership really does believe that a sucker is born every day. Imagine the rates that they charge on financing as well. Those poor, unsuspecting souls won't be baby seals; they will be baby whales.

    Richard
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,636
    Hi, I just wanted to provide a link to a used car dealer-- their prices are outrageous,,

    Look at the bright side, Maybe they will give GG 25k for his Tahoe! :)

    It would be interesting to know what they are trying to do. Obviously, their prices are very high, maybe they figure there's no harm in trying.

    Also, it is annoying that you have to contact them to get the "special sale" figures, kind of makes you wonder what the prices are if they are listed! Attractive web page though, nice bright warm (yellow and red) colors. :)

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,593
    Just an example, I went there to compare their prices with my recent purchase. They didn't have the exact same car but they had a 2007 Sebring base 4 door with more miles than my 2008 ragtop. They wanted 5 grand more than what I paid and my car retails for considerably more.

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  • delthekingdeltheking Member Posts: 1,152
    And the kicker is --These prices are special internet prices.The actual on the lot walk in prices are higher.Go figure!!!
    One more price--couldn`t resist-- 02 Chrysler PT Cruiser with 101k miles -12k with a down payment of 3600.Clubbing a baby seal!!Actually the real prices are closer to the estimated down payment rather than the total price!!Amazing!! :sick: :sick:
  • golicgolic Member Posts: 714
    Well folks, keep in mind. There *IS* a cost to having bad credit or no credit.

    The mom and pop stores and places like this survive because they can get people into cars for $200 per month. When you *NEED* a car to get to work, things like 96 months and 15% financing are irrelevant to these buyers.

    So we may laugh at this site - but they are more than likely selling cars to people who can get paper at your typical dealership.
  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    I don't know about you, but I've been thrown out of better places than this.

    I’m sure of that but they probably allowed you to come back. :surprise:

    jmonroe

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  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984
    Only under an assumed name. ;)

    Richard
  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    Hi, I just wanted to provide a link to a used car dealer-- their prices are outrageous,...

    Don’t try to change the subject thread. You still owe us an update on that smelly Toyota truck, don’t ya? :(

    jmonroe

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  • speterson1speterson1 Member Posts: 228
    A common house mouse can squeeze through a 1/8 inch opening.

    Really? I've got a ruler sitting here on my desk and I find it very hard to believe that a mouse's skull is <= 1/8 of an inch. That's a really narrow gap.
  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,195
    I have an acquaintance (wouldn't call him a friend, per se) that owns a "buy here/pay here" lot. He says his business has never been better.

    Then again, he's writing his own paper. And, he's selling $3K cars for $10K.

    He says his repos are also at a record high.
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  • joel0622joel0622 Member Posts: 3,299
    Holly Crap, I guess they figure at those prices they only need to sell one every other day.
  • joel0622joel0622 Member Posts: 3,299
    Anyone else here buy any of the Ford Stock when it was $1 a few months ago? If so you look pretty smart this morning. Opened at $5.27. Now I just wish I would have bought more.
  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    A common house mouse can squeeze through a 1/8 inch opening.

    Really? I've got a ruler sitting here on my desk and I find it very hard to believe that a mouse's skull is

    You'd be amazed at what a mouse can get through. When i was in high school I had a few mice. Had one in a cage with pretty tight bars. He was gone in no time. Amazingly he went to live under the stove and would steal the cat's food for close to half a year before we caught him again. Kept him in a terrarium after that. Lived to be over 2-1/2 years which is pretty amazing for a mouse.
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  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    Anyone else here buy any of the Ford Stock when it was $1 a few months ago?

    Yeah, and it&#146;s because of you that I decided to buy it. Now I&#146;m thinking of taking some of that Ford money over to GM. That move might get me but it&#146;s probably worth it. Anyway, it&#146;s not my money it belonged to Ford. Ford has already said something like &#147;GM is too big to fail, the rest of the auto industry needs them to keep our suppliers going&#148;.

    You better hurry before there isn&#146;t any left for you. Don&#146;t make the same mistake twice. :)

    jmonroe

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  • joel0622joel0622 Member Posts: 3,299
    I bought 1000 shares for myself and me and some friends have a stock club that we bought 5000, now we are thinking the same thing as you. sold 2000 this morning to buy GM.

    We can survive without Chrysler but we need GM to stay alive. This 9 week shut down they are talking about scares me.
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Administrator Posts: 11,249
    We didn't hit that price point, but our stock club did buy 2000 shares @ $1.93. We're considering setting a stop loss on at least some of them, but it's mighty tempting to sell some now!

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  • joel0622joel0622 Member Posts: 3,299
    We all belive that we will see the $8 mark buy years end. We also belive that hogs get fat and pigs get slaughtered lol
  • delthekingdeltheking Member Posts: 1,152
    Oh no,, I never forgot about that.Infact I was working on the Truck early morning today!! ;) So here is how it pandered out.

    I took the Toyota to my regular Toyota dealer [very nice dealership,BTW,been going there for atleast 6 yrs now]. He told me that the smell was due to condensation in the a/c, and asked me to drive it for1 or 2 days with the fan in the blower made and not in a/c mode and to switch off both the a/c and recirculate buttons.And it would dry out the vents and other parts,,and if it did not solve the problem to come back.

    Yesterday night,in my garage,I was looking in the truck`s interior.I was sniffing every nook and cranny.[[I was feeling like a dog,,never realized my sense of smell was so good!!Guess,necessity is the mother of invention!!] I removed the carpets and cleaned the dash and panels-- smell still there.

    I was frustrated and then sat on the seat and went close to the mirror to have a look at my irritated face and voila,,the smell instantly hit my nose real bad. :confuse: Well ,guess what !!!! It was the leaf like air freshener hanging from the mirror.It was the exact same smell.It waslisted as pine tree scent! I could not believe it.It was staring at my face all the time and I was looking all around.The leaf for some reason,,maybe oxidation due to air etc,started to give this smell.

    I immediately removed the leaf and detailed the interior thoroughly with Meguiar`s Quick interior detailer,,took it for a spin and everything is great now.Called the dealer,told him about my discovery and we had a good laugh about it...

    So next time , u get a bad smell ,u know where to look. :P ;)
  • wlbrown9wlbrown9 Member Posts: 867
    Midland/Odessa, Texas...I remember reading about a year ago that they were in the middle of an oil boom. While a lot of folks were already struggling, when curde was heading up toward $150 a barrel these oil country folks were doing real good. I would imagine their economy is a little slimmer now than a year ago.
  • wlbrown9wlbrown9 Member Posts: 867
    GM shares? Don't get caught holding them if they go into bankruptcy. My understanding is that current shareholders get $0 per share if that happens.
  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    Doh! The fact that the air freshener was in the shape of a dead rat should have given it away....

    I love a happy ending...
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  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    It was the leaf like air freshener hanging from the mirror.It was the exact same smell.It waslisted as pine tree scent!

    I never hung anything from my mirror. Fuzzy dice, girly pictures, air fresheners (that ain&#146;t), etc. I always felt that would be distracting to my driving to have something jiggling around like that. Now you know not to do it too.

    So next time , u get a bad smell ,u know where to look.

    There never was a first time. See above. :)

    jmonroe

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  • joel0622joel0622 Member Posts: 3,299
    never hung anything from my mirror. Fuzzy dice, girly pictures, air fresheners (that ain&#146;t), etc. I always felt that would be distracting to my driving

    Were you born old ???? imageimage
  • lokkilokki Member Posts: 1,200
    I always felt that would be distracting to my driving

    My High School Driving Instructor (this was back in the days of bench seats) used to say, that if you're in a car and you have one hand on the wheel and one arm around your girl, you aren't paying enough attention to either one! ;)
  • canadiantoyotacanadiantoyota Member Posts: 148
    "...How will GM get rid of all the excess?..."

    According to the news today, they plan on laying everybody off and going fishing for two months


    It's official.... GM is going to cut each of their overstock cars in half and give each employee 1/2 a car to use as a boat anchor while they are fishing (for those that don't fish, they can use them as lawn ornaments). Plus they get most of their pay! :shades:

    GM figures that this will spur sales in the boating industry. :P
  • lrguy44lrguy44 Member Posts: 2,197
    so - who steers?
  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    Were you born old ????

    Keep that up and I&#146;ll see to it that your dues are jacked up.

    On second thought, I&#146;m going to have the &#145;jipster&#146; pay you a visit and yank out your last remaining hair ! :P

    jmonroe

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  • chikoochikoo Member Posts: 3,008
    or taking everybody on a cruise....of no return???
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,950
    joel,
    got a question for you. for the last week or so, i have been occasionally emailing the local dealer about a specific vehicle.
    they are asking a pretty high price and don't seem, so far, too willing negotiate from their original offer.
    the salesguy is really, really, young, and i think the older guys are putting him throught the ringer.
    i am eligible for x-plan, so if i do that, does greenpea get anything?
    basically, i'd like to give him a chance to make a sale, even if it isn't for a lot of money.
    the vehicle is not my wife's first choice, but one she would be happy with.
    btw, so far, they have given quotes on 2 vehicles which were different ones than we wanted prices on.
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  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984
    Next week, I plan on selling the Ford stock that I bought. It's a lesson that I learned from the casino tables---quit while you're ahead. As for buying the GM stock---I'm just not that brave. :D

    Richard
  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984
    To jmonroe: "Were you born old????"

    Perhaps not old, but certainly born a tighta$$!

    Richard
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,404
    "...went close to the mirror to have a look at my irritated face and voila, the smell instantly hit my nose..."

    Please, Please, don't give this bunch an opening like THAT! :P

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  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984
    LOL!!!

    Richard
  • joel0622joel0622 Member Posts: 3,299
    Varies from dealer to dealer. Our dealer pays a $150 flat on Xplans. If you want to tell me what it is and the sticker price I can tell you exactly what Xplan price is. If you include you zip I can tell you all the programs for your area to.
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,636
    Please, Please, don't give this bunch an opening like THAT!
    LOL!!!

    Richard


    Double LOL.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,636
    We didn't hit that price point, but our stock club did buy 2000 shares $1.93.

    While it still reported a loss for the quarter, of $1.4bn, this was better than analysts had forecast.


    Is it just me or does this seem odd?
    These days a smaller loss than expected is a time to celebrate.
    Guess it is the times we live in :)

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  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    Don't cheat and "google" this.

    Blue Coral Wax was once mentioned in a popular song.

    What was the name of that song and who sang it?

    Extra Credit if you name the year it came out.

    Please, no cheating!
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,593
    These days a smaller loss than expected is a time to celebrate.

    Its always been that way. The market reacts to what is expected, when the actual results come in and they are better then expected the stock almost always goes up. Conversely if the news is worse than expected the stock almost always drops.

    Try looking at any other time when a loss for a major corporation came in less than what was forecasted and 99.9% of the time the stock gained on the news.

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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,593
    Seems to me it was a Jan and Dean song, can't remember the name though I want to say "Drag City".

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,950
    thanks Joel, but it's a done deal. we bought another Escape limited.
    we made an appointment and went over to drive a 4cyl limited.
    overall, it was much quieter than our current 04 and seat more comfortable, but the engine was kind of noisy for my wife. Then she drove the v6 and the vehicle was quiet and the engine was also quiet.
    when the sales guy came back with a price, before he could say what it was, I had already gotten an internet quote on the 4 cyl, i said are you ok with x-plan?, i don't really want to do a lot of back and forth to work tou a price.
    he said, 'x-plan?, yeah we are ok with that!
    other than a couple misc items, vin etching and a preprinted doc fee, we had no issues, so it was a good sales experience and i think we are going to happy with the new escape. now the kids are debating who is going to get to drive mom's old one.
    we ended up with a decked out black/black limited, nav and all.
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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,727
    >other than a couple misc items, vin etching and a preprinted doc fee, we had no issues,

    How did you handle those?

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,950
    for the vin etching, i just said, i don't want that. if they did it, like our current escape, too bad. it was already done, but they took it off the contract. i am not sure if it done or not.
    as far as the doc fee goes, if you use x plan, my understanding is, it is not supposed to get charged, because ford rebates some amount to the dealer.
    there was a bit of back and forth, but they knocked it down from 349 to 75, so i said ok.
    maybe i shouldn't have paid that 75, but i wasn't going to start a war over it.
    it was a skinny deal for them, but i think they were pretty happy they sold that particular vehicle. it was the highest priced non hybrid they had.
    we think we are going to have some fun seeing how long it takes for people to notice my wife is driving a different vehicle. :)
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  • joel0622joel0622 Member Posts: 3,299
    Ford Motor allows a $75 admin fee to be added. They did that when they upped the admin fee to the dealer to $295.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,950
    ouch, so it cost the dealer $220 if they got $75 as a doc fee?
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  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    You win.

    The year was 1963 when Jan and Dean were on top of their game.

    " Blue Coral wax job sure looks pretty, gonna take my chick and go to Drag City"

    Simpler times...
  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    I'm impressed. Before I even had a chance to think about it I saw snake said Drag City and immediately knew that was right.

    Hey! Way to go on the new Escape. Nice easy deal and it sounds like a nice vehicle.
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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,477
    I'm impressed. Before I even had a chance to think about it I saw snake said Drag City and immediately knew that was right.

    OK, which Jan and Dean song was heavily influenced by a J. S. Bach chorale?

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  • delthekingdeltheking Member Posts: 1,152
    Isell,,,the Insights have hit lots now.How are the sales??With gas at $2 ,,I dont think folks are too interested in Hybrids.Even Prius sales have dropped.

    Maybe gas at 4 or 5 will push these sales.Folks are slowly going back to SUV`s.I guess some folks never learn. :confuse:
    But from the reviews I read,,it seems the Insight has a really noisy and rough ride compared to the Prius.Have u driven it ??What`s the general opinion and consensus?Are folks really excited on test drives? Will it be a Prius beater or will it end the Hybrid Civic way?? :shades:

    Are there any backlogs or is the inventory adequate??But the interesting this -Insight is classified as a compact whereas the 2010 Prius is a mid size sedan. :surprise:

    Isell and all u folks--Your thoughts?? :P
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,636
    Then she drove the v6 and the vehicle was quiet and the engine was also quiet.

    Congratulations on your new vehicle. I wasn't sure if you got the V6 over the 4 and if you got it for the same price as the 4 from the internet quote.

    Escapes are getting good reviews, getting them more and more refined.

    I like the way you bought it, some background work, had in mind a fair price, went in and negotiated no muss no fuss, you're happy, you're wife is happy, the dealership should be happy. Enjoy!

    ***One other thought and this is my opinion only, but I welcome comments. I have always thought that if a 6 cyl is offered it isn't usually much more expensive than a 4. Although the 4 should be more economical to run, I think the 6 might last longer, it will be quieter and smoother, it will have extra power when you need it. And, it is a much better alternative especially on American cars where 4 cyl engines have not been perfected quite as well. When I got my 92 Cavalier I tried both and the 6 seemed like a real car, the 4 was pretty crude IMO.

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