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Hyundai Santa Fe vs Toyota RAV4 vs Mazda CX-7 vs Ford Edge
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It would be interesting, however, to see how an upgraded CX-7 would be like (Mazdaspeed CX-7, I know I am dreaming!). It surely would put to shame any big V6 like the Ford 3.5L in the Edge, or the RAV4 V6.
I have heard that the twin turbo concept was scrapped for the MKS
in a world of colonial style houses, it stands out!
The Edge is "Gillette Mach3," though. Totally.
Well, it is bigger. The CX-7 is a small, cramped toy by comparison. Interesting that the Murano pulled .81 g's in the Car and Driver road test and was described as "the Z of sport-utes." Enjoy your Ford...I mean Mazda.
It's fun to poke fun in these forums, I do it a lot. However, CX-7 is no Ford, by any means. It's all Japanese.
"Bigger is always better"!!!LOL
Keep in mind, it's a turbo 4-cyl, with the power of a V6. What's wrong with that?
That's not quite true. Hitting 11K miles, I've put my CX-7 through it's paces. In 6th gear, doing 70 MPH, the engine is only pushing 2K RPM...compared to my 2004 Santa Fe, 3.5L 6 cylinder, the SF is revving at 3K RPM...so my 4 banger, turbo, is running quite efficiently, thank you very much.
Additionally, under hard acceleration, the CX-7 is a pocket rocket. And once again, the engine handles that with relative ease.
And yes, the CX-7 sucks down the go-juice, like its cool-aid! :P
Vince aka Mr. CX-7
That is not true. That is a notion people cannot get over, and I do not know why. Lack of education on turbo charging, I guess.
The turbo 4 in the RDX and CX-7 are built to have a turbo, so, the engine is under virtually no strain.
I will not sit here and try and convince you that what you think is wrong, even though it is. It is a personal choice you have made, and the RAV4 V6 is rather nice. There are plenty of threads that say the RAV4 V6 does not get the mpg that Toyota claims...you better read those.
True, the RAV-4 beats CX-7 hands down in the MPG department, but looses out in performance specs, i.e. acceleration /braking/cornering, nav and sound systems, etc.
All depends on your priorities and preferences. For me, MPG was never a consideration. Styling and performance are tops, in my book! :shades:
Vince aka Mr. CX-7
Well, no, they are not random! People select numbers to bolster their case. Otherwise, they run the risk of contradicting themselves.
tidester, host
Should we get rid of hydraulic brakes, too? C'mon.
That is not really true. V6's place the same stress. You are forgetting that all 4 pistons are NOT going in the same direction, at the same time, therefor reducing stress, and add constant power delivery. All engines are designed that way.
Thing is, if it does have a balance shaft (or two shafts) then internal push/pull stress is set up. Bottom line is that technology can help quite a bit, but a modern 60-degree V-angle V6 is very balanced and even-firing compared to a 4.
The facts are, the CX-7 IS NOT a Ford, The Edge is its own iteration of the 7 but completely different
The FORD is extremely overpriced & overweight. And other than being an iteration of the Mazda, all comparisons to the Ford Edge should end there. They are not the same vehicle, not even close. And if you are going to spend 35k plus on one, short of the "I support America" motive, you need your head examined
We usually relegate psychoanalysis to other venues.
but completely different
I think it would be insane to compare vehicles that were completely the same!
tidester, host
Vince aka Mr. CX-7
btw - I am a CX-7 owner.
The hatch (opens up not to the side) idea of the backend is a much better idea..
I prefer a hatch too, but I still have to open my garage door to load my rides from the rear so it's not that big an issue. You'd think it'd be pretty easy to swap the hinges and wiring though since they are already moving the steering wheel back and forth for different markets. Maybe it's a safety testing expense changing the hinges to the other side?
The RAV 4 put the spare on the door to gain more space. What's nice about that, is that getting to the tire to fix a flat is very easy.
For the CRV, I'll bet the designers were thinking the same thing as Toyota's...maximize cargo space.
Santa Fe stores theirs underneath (undercarriage). There's a big tray under the cargo panel for storing tools, etc. Unfortunately, that option is truly a pain the rear, when it comes changing a tire.
For the CX-7, it underneath the cargo panel and even has some room to store tools, etc.
It'll be interesting to see how the CX-9 stores its spare.
Of the 3, I like Mazda's design the best.
Vince.
The way the door opened on the Rav is a big part of why I ruled the car out quickly. I DO go into NYC a lot and often parallel park no only in there, but around here. It was too easy to imagine not being able to access the hatch at all because of a stupid side opening door design.