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Hyundai Santa Fe vs Toyota RAV4 vs Mazda CX-7 vs Ford Edge

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  • After much thouht, Im getting the 2007 CRV for her (or just keep the 2001 Odessey EX) and the Prius for me.

    Dont like the Prius to much but, we like it more than enough to live with it very confortable.

    To much is happening in the world to be buged down by a car whos company worked hard for over a decade to get its bad reputation.

    Im moving On. :shades:

    Happy hunting
    Raf
  • foxrunfoxrun Posts: 16
    Hey ho buddy your the one that came onto a FORD FORUM what did you expect.

    And for the simularities between the CX-7 and the Edge I see now where I went wrong and thank you for your keen obsevational skills. One is a F-O-R-D and the other is a M-A-Z-D-A ok ok I got it now.

    Heres one for those aspiring to be more then sheep. Ford has a controlling interest in Mazda and has said since that they want to utilize all parts of thier interests and as such crossbred techniques and such. Well just imagine when Both Mazda and Ford come out with a vehicle at the same time that have generally the same dimensions what could possibly be the chances that they might share the same pedigree. That alone should ring bells.

    NO NO you must be right no chance of any simularities.

    BAAAAAAAAAA BAAAAAAAAAAA BAAAAAAAAAA
  • steverstever Posts: 52,462
    Hey ho buddy your the one that came onto a FORD FORUM what did you expect.

    Actually this is a comparison topic and the Edge was a recent edition to the makes being compared in here.

    And it's much more pleasant in here when we are comparing the cars and not calling each other names.

    /hint
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 13,717
    i knew about tesla already, but i don't see what an r-c car has to do with this discussion. :P
    if the post made more sense, i wouldn't have commented on it.
    if you do get a tesla, let us know how you like it, but not in this discussion, unless they have a cuv version. :)
    2017 Ford Fusion SE 2017 Ford F-150 Limited
  • With all due respect, I think you are way off
    base in regards to the quality of Hyundai.
    I think this company has come a long way in
    quality. Hell, I'm driving a 2007 Lexus RX,
    (which, by the way, runs perfectly fine on regular unleaded) but don't think I haven't
    taken notice of what's coming out from Hyundai!

    I believe the 2007 Santa Fe has really become
    competitive in this market. I have to say
    I'm impressed by it. I like the Murano and
    the CX-7, and I think the Edge is gonna do fine.

    But, I do have a question. You don't mention
    if you've ever driven any of the competition
    to the Edge. Now, if you haven't, then it
    kind of invalidates your whole argument, doesn't it? I was just wondering if you've had
    a chance to drive at least a few of the other
    models.
  • piastpiast Posts: 269
    "6 speed transmision-O/D this car is at the top of its game. What about that vista roof? is there anything out there even close to it? its like having all the advantages of a convertable without any of the disadvantages. Nav system, Sattelite radio, mp3 connection and this guy needs only regular 87 octane rated gas to get its 265 hp rating unlike all its competition needing ultra premium for thiers"
    Sory, but you are wrong.
    Let’s see, this is just one of many examples. Stop taking about your emotional impressions, just look at the data. You can be the judge, if you do not trust Motor Trend evaluation in DEC issue you can also compare Edge to any other SUV, here at Edmunds.

    07 Mitsubishi 07 Ford Edge
    Outlander
    Engine 3.0 220hp 3.5 265hp
    0-60 mph (sec) 8.1 8.0
    Braking (Ft) 128 142
    600-Foot Slalom (mph) 62.7 55.7
    Lateral acceleration(g) 0.78 0.72
    MT Figure 8 (sec) 28.3 29.3

    Price range 21.4-25 K 25.3-30.7K
    Fuel type regular regular
    Fuel economy 19/26 18/23
    Basic warranty 5yr./60000mi. 3yr/36000 mi.
    Drivetrain 10 yr./100000 mi. 5yr./60000mi.
    6 Speed Trany yes (shift able) yes

    Oh, yes but it has that big sunroof….
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,062
    Ford's CD3 platform started with the Mazda6 platform but added length and width and made other mods. The Edge, MKX and CX-9 are based on CD3 - the CX-7 is not and is much smaller. They're cousins like the Mazda6 and the Fusion but they're not on the same platform.
  • foxrunfoxrun Posts: 16
    Sure your RX can run on regular but it can't get its suggested HP rating when you do.

    Never said Hyundai quality wasn't up to snuff, in fact I believe there is no quality gap. The thing with Hyundai is that they are ugly as sin.

    Driven more then an Edge? Now how hard would that be? Test drives are free.
  • foxrunfoxrun Posts: 16
    yes they are.
  • foxrunfoxrun Posts: 16
    Where did the outlander come from?

    Why not compare the outlander with jeeps rubicon?
  • piastpiast Posts: 269
    Wrong again. CX7 share platform with Mazda3, European Focus, Volvo 40. Do you have access to any reliable information, or all of this coming from your lunch break talks?
  • piastpiast Posts: 269
    It come from the same source as Toyota RAV 4, It,s a small country called Japan.
  • piastpiast Posts: 269
    Do you think we can add one more CUV to this party? Just released 2007 Mitsubishi Outlander is in the same size/price category, with standard V6, available AWD (with 2WD, 4WD AUTO and 4WD LOCK, which stay locked at any speed), navigation system, DVD, Xenon headlamps, Bluetooth etc.
    It’s a bit bigger than RAV4, with better handling and interior, bit faster and more economical (19/26 mph) than Santa Fe, matching its 10 years powertrain warranty,
    And with the best price/value of all of them is already outselling RAV4 and CRV in Japan. Yes I now it is a small player in this market, but this forum should be about cars, right? Anyway I test drove it about 2 weeks ago and it’s on my short list now with Santa Fe and CX7. What do you think?
  • ergsumergsum Posts: 146
    How do you think the interior compares to the Santa Fe? Which one would you prefer for long road trips?
  • The Outlander is a SOLID entry in this category. Checked out a loaded one in Boston a couple weekends back and gotta say that Mitsu threw everything at this new ute. It is certainly on par with the rest of the competition, may even be better in certain areas and the pricing for it is quite reasonable.

    It deserves every right to be part of this comparison thread. And it deserves a serious look if you're shopping :D :)
  • vbbuiltvbbuilt Posts: 498
    I agree that the Outlander is a solid entry, but yawn, it's so ho-hum....looks just like an ordinary SUV...no pizzazz...not exciting at all....

    Where's the ZOOM-ZOOM?

    Vince. ;)
  • arumagearumage Posts: 922
    "Newsflash buddy, the CX-7 is an Edge with a 4 cylinder the same 2.3L that goes in the Escape,Focus,Mazda3,Tribute & Mazdaspeed3 , of course its going to be CHEAPER and that 6 speed transmission is EXACTLY the same as the Edge."

    Actually, the CX-7's 6-speed automatic is the same as the upcoming CX-9, which is sourced by Aisin. It is not the same one Ford uses. Sorry to burst your bubble.

    "Oh ya you did say Sante fe, well lets leave that one alone the poor people that actually buy that should not be attacked its just not polite."

    Let's see... Hyundai is #3 in initial quality for 2006. The interior and fit/finish have been ranked better than any of the cars your in your comparison.

    "The Rav4 has 166hp at 6000 rpm pfffff and the 6 cylinder has 269, lol I'm surprised they didn't just say 266, like Toyota doesn't have a history of over rating thier HP, plus the Rav still only has a 5 speed transmission."

    Despite being "overrated" (one word, not two), the Rav4 still beats the Edge to 60mph. Does the extra gear really matter if your still faster?
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,062
    Sorry, but Ford does use the Aisin 6 speed tranny in the Fusion, Milan and MKZ, but not in the Edge. The Edge uses the new 6F 6 speed tranny developed jointly with GM, if that's what you meant.
  • arumagearumage Posts: 922
    I meant that it's not the same one in the Edge. Sorry for the confusion.
  • piastpiast Posts: 269
    The interior in both cars received four stars in MT SUV of the Year contest, (RAV4 got three). Personally I think they are pretty close in material quality with Santa Fe being slightly more attractive, (except for fake wood) and in the Outlander- more sporty looking. Seat comfort is a different story, IMO better in a Mitsubishi, not that flat and short as in Santa Fe. Some owners reported this on this forum before. But all of this in very subjective and you have to try both, to find one which suits you better.
  • piastpiast Posts: 269
    Its all personal opinion. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder you know. Sure CX-7 is pretty but she always orders the premium meals and she is always hungry too.
  • philmophilmo Posts: 77
    Mitsu threw everything at this new ute

    Good: the audio system records your cds. (I wonder how that copyright works when you sell your car given how the music industry is so prickly these days.)
    Bad: the third row seat looks like a discarded prop from "Plan 9 From Outer Space". Really, you don't want to be driving around town with it up.

    I looked at it but something is just off about the design: Hood too long? Triangle-shaped panel at D pillar? Sits kinda lower in the back than in the front (optical illusion)? Weird tinted glass panels on liftgate that stick out at about eye-level when open? Tire diameter in proportion to wheel and fender flare? RAV-y roofline?

    Maybe it all works for some folks but for me there are better looking options out there.
  • So maybe she's not low-maintenance, but she knows how to please a man, and that might be the most important part... ;)
  • philmophilmo Posts: 77
    The CX-7 is getting a lot of knocks -- no pun intended -- about the need for premium fuel. Now the main thing for what I'm about to posit is how many miles one drives per week, month or year; and how your fuel pricing is structured.

    In Colorado each grade is about 10-cents apart. However, due to how engines work at elevation, your premium drinking ride will most likely run fine with mid-grade. In fact, when I bought our turbocharged Volvo S60 in 2002 the saleman told me to go ahead and use the mid.

    (4 years/ 50k miles later, no problems. However, the car did tattle on me after using regular on a trip. At the dealer, "Sir, your car's computer reports misfiring... have you been using regular?" Big brother is a Swede!)

    Anyway, if I fill a 20-gallon tank once a week, and the difference is 10-cents per gallon, we're talking the price of a Happy Meal. Is that really worth going to the mat for, or sacrificing one's desire for a particular vehicle? Don't let that requirement be a deal breaker for you. Unless, of course, you're driving much, much more where the costs get nasty. I empathize with those who do.

    Curiously, as prices fluctuate between $2 and $3 dollars per gallon the same 10-cent margin applies. (What's up with that?) As prices go up the hit for premium is relatively smaller.

    I just wanted to put that out there. I took the premium fuel requirement off the "minuses" list when making comparisons between vehicles -- for my needs a $2-per-week hit can't be the deal breaker where a $30k car is concerned.
  • piastpiast Posts: 269
    "Maybe it all works for some folks but for me there are better looking options out there."
    It works for many folks, and most car magazines and sites. Which ones do like that much better, other that really nice Mazda CX7 in this price range?
    I agree with you on the 3rd row seat. But this is a joke in every SUV of this size.
  • arumagearumage Posts: 922
    I actually thought the Santa Fe's 3rd row wasn't that bad at all, and I'm 6'3". I wouldn't want to ride across the country in it, but a couple of hours would be OK. The thing that sucks is that there is only 10 cu. ft. of storage behind the 3rd row. I thought the controls were laid out very well, and it was very easy to drive. The interior was fairly luxuorious for it's class/price. I can tell you that it's no sports car, even with the 242hp V6.
  • vbbuiltvbbuilt Posts: 498
    "Its all personal opinion. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder you know. Sure CX-7 is pretty but she always orders the premium meals and she is always hungry too"

    My CX-7 mirrors it's owner. Good lookin', muscular and requires lot's of TLC and gourmet food to keep it all runnin' smoothly! :shades:

    Vince.
  • piastpiast Posts: 269
    "My CX-7 mirrors it's owner. Good lookin', muscular"

    You must be talking about this nice girl from Mazda commercial, right? BTW I bought this blog is about cars...
    I also think Mazda is the best handling, best looking CUV out there, I'm only not that crazy about engine choice.
  • arumagearumage Posts: 922
    I think the CX-7 would have been better with the 3.5L V6 that is in the Edge. The torque curve would be much smoother. It would get better gas mileage since it is a bit lighter than the Edge too. Oh, and it would use regular instead of premium.
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    I think the CX-7 would have been better with the 3.5L V6 that is in the Edge. The torque curve would be much smoother

    Well it depends on the purpose of the vehicle. The CX-7 was designed to be a crossover that scores well in the handling/braking and overall performance ride/drive area....if you put in the other engine it becomes a big station wagon like every other crossover. The weight and balance would be way off with the 3.5l. They probably wouldnt be able to use the suspension parts from the 3&5 with a heavier engine also... In typical Mazda fashion they wanted to be a little different than the rest of the crowd.
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