Did you recently take on (or consider) a loan of 84 months or longer on a car purchase?
A reporter would like to speak with you about your experience; please reach out to PR@Edmunds.com by 7/22 for details.
Options

What's the best vehicle for my needs?

1246728

Comments

  • sandman46sandman46 Member Posts: 1,798
    I'm happier as each days goes by with my Civic. I was seriously considering the S40 and the Jetta and I think I made the right decision. The Civic has great torque up the power band in my daily 18 mile roundtrip commute. And it's no slouch on the highway either. That 1.8 liter engine is a sweet one and never seems overworked.
    Mazda swapped out the rear pads & rotors today on our 3s to quelch some noise back there. Hopefully they got it right.
    Cheers guys!!!

    The Sandman :):)
  • newbee7newbee7 Member Posts: 30
    They just don't depreciate fast enough.

    This is one of the things I haven't understood when buying a 1 year old car from a dealer. I've seen a local dealer asking $17,000 for a used 06 Civic LX with 20K miles.

    Reading this board, we know people paying similar amount for a new 07 Civic.

    So what's the logic in asking the $17,000 on a 1 year old one?
  • gussguss Member Posts: 1,167
    is different than getting. I am sure the dealer has a $1k to$2k wiggle room built in. But still insane from a buyers point of view.

    I think the rationale is, hey it's a Honda,it's gonna go 150k miles. If I can save a few thousand over new, I can make it up over the long run.

    I like buying used because you can get great deals on domestics. It is rare to get the numbers to work on a used Toyota or Honda over a new one.
  • polar01polar01 Member Posts: 2
    Yes I heard reliability issues on 2004 or older Q56 models. Not so many for 2006 models. The 2007 GM seems to have several post on quality issues. GM models also don have 3rd ro seats that fold flat. I agree the physical appearance of GM models look better than Q56.
    I'll keep looking. Thanks
  • heavensoldierheavensoldier Member Posts: 61
    Thanks all for the help. I may decide to get the fusion I saw it in person , it loooks nice. But we're still deciding between the toyota camry, fusion, and the altima. Thanks and God Bless.
  • tomit12tomit12 Member Posts: 2
    I am looking to buy a used sedan soon. I'm looking for something that is:

    1) 4 Doors
    2) Under $20k
    3) Preferably under 50k miles, but I'm somewhat flexible here

    It will primarily just be me driving the car, but it does need enough room in the backseat for a couple of car seats, when the occassion calls for it.

    The main problems are a) the large number of sedans in the price / mileage range I am looking at, and b) it has to be fun to drive. I LOVE to drive. I'm looking for something that can meet my basic needs, but will let me drive how I want to - whether it's just cruising around town doing errands, or a little spirited (read: insane) freeway driving. I'm a big jack rabbit starter type, so if the acceleration is ho-hum it won't do. Safety is definitely a concern as well. When I do have the kids and am driving extremely sedate and cautious, it would be nice if it didn't fall apart should the worst happen.

    Anyway, thus far I am leaning towards something like an BMW 330i. Edmunds says the thing takes off like a bat out of hell, and is fun to drive, so it sounds like it might just be my cup of tea. However, as I mentioned before, the options in that price range for used sedans are so broad that there may be some other real gems out there I am missing.

    Does anyone have any experience with sporty sedans that can highlight some vehicles I should look into when I go to buy? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks!
  • plektoplekto Member Posts: 3,738
    The best of the lot is a used IS300.

    Q - does it HAVE to be four doors? Otherwise, I'd suggest a Celica GTS with stickshift. Seriosuly fun and economical choice. Closer to $12-14K used.
  • tomit12tomit12 Member Posts: 2
    Yeah, sadly the 4 door thing is mandatory. I'd prefer a coupe, but I'm sadly at the mercy of the wife on this one. :D

    I'll definitely look into the IS though, thanks!
  • plektoplekto Member Posts: 3,738
    Less beer(lol), more braincells working this morning...

    A few other choices to consider:
    - Cadillac CTS. Get one with the 3.6 engine. Good value for the money and a beautiful car. Should have enough left over to extend the warranty as well if you want(16-18K)
    - LaCrosse CXS. This has Cadillac suspension and the same 3.6 found in the CTS(just tuned better for city driving). was *WAY* better than any Chevrolet or Pontiac sedan. Cheap, too - I'm seeing 2006 models for sale, used, for under 20K.

    http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=215614277&dealer_id=57662681
    That's a 2007(!) - so a 2006 is well under $20K. I usually recommend used entry-level luxury, but this is an exception since it's essentially a new car)
    http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=212322538&dealer_id=41261062
    Ex-rental, but wow, that's cheap.

    Used Volvos are also good. The S60 is a fine car. Saab 9-5s are also good as well(9-3 isn't as nice).

    The IS300, as mentioned, is nice as well. Very good car. IMO, it handles and drives lighter and better than the ones that replaced it.

    I also was impresed with the C-class. A Certified 2004 C230K Sedan(as opposed to the coupe) is a nice car and will leave enough left over to get a good extended warranty. Drives great, looks great, and well under $20K(closer to 15-16K). Dark Blue is gorgeous, btw. They factory tint the windows a light blue as well - best used car I've sat in a long time.
  • exb0exb0 Member Posts: 539
    03 Infiniti G35
  • sidneydawsonsidneydawson Member Posts: 4
    Take a look at a Maxima or a 3.5 SE Altima. Both should get the job done. Also, a Suburu Legacy GT would be a fun choice. I prefer to buy Japanese for used cars for the reliability factor. Many of the imports extend the powertrain warranty on their used cars...something to look into. Good Luck. Sid
  • heavensoldierheavensoldier Member Posts: 61
    Hey lawrence, you said your father drives the ford fusion. But I heard the fusion has problems with the rear trunk end being to high which makes it had to back the car up in reverse, is he able to handle that problem? I need my mom to be safe and don't know if the high rear end of the fusion helps any.
  • jlawrence01jlawrence01 Member Posts: 1,757
    But I heard the fusion has problems with the rear trunk end being to high which makes it had to back the car up in reverse, is he able to handle that problem?

    As I have always said, the driver MUST always test drive a vehicle before purchase. Personally, I have never noticed that to be a problem. Neither has my father.

    However, your mother may have problems with it. I would sure check it out prior to purchase.

    Everybody has to feel comfortable in their personal drive.
  • sandman46sandman46 Member Posts: 1,798
    Saw a couple on the turnpike this morning and they were really eye catching. I saw a black, red & white one and actually liked the white the best. It looked really classy with the alloy wheels & the chrome front grille. Just wish Ford would tweak the dash area with a single color, preferably blue for night driving. I have the blue lights in my Civic & the wife has the red lights in her Mazda 3 and I much prefer the blueish hue...much easier to see at night actually.

    The Sandman :)
  • thenebeanthenebean Member Posts: 1,124
    i would definitely suggest a V6 Altima with the stick. plenty of space in back, loads of fun to drive - very peppy! and you can probably get an 04 or 05 for right around what you're looking to spend.

    the IS300 would be fun, but i would imagine that has a smallish back seat. if you're gonna need to fit car seats, the altima would suit you better.

    good luck!

    -thene :)
  • cerebus1cerebus1 Member Posts: 5
    Looking for a new vehicle for my wife. The needs are ...

    (a) AWD
    (b) some height/elevation to the driving position, she is petite
    (c) high level of safety

    This will be a commuter car for herself alone, so space for more than a driver isn't a factor. No need for top performance. Money isn't really a factor either.

    Thanks.
  • suydamsuydam Member Posts: 5,063
    Honda CRV, Toyota RAV4, or Subaru Forester are all good bets
    '24 Kia Sportage PHEV
    '24 Chevy Blazer EV 2LT
  • plektoplekto Member Posts: 3,738
    I personally favor coupes and such if it's just a one-person car.

    But based upon her size, it's hard. The RAV-4 is nice, but it's no car - feels very truck-ish. The IS300 and Class are nice, too, if a bit pricey(and with Mercedes you need to get one with basically nothing but leather on it to save yourself a lot of electrical gremlins).

    But for just myself? A RX-8, a Miata, or maybe a used S2000 or Boxter would be at the top of my lists. Heh, :P

    Something more normal, though, would be a Scion TC or a Celica GTS. Nice car and while the rear seat is useless, the front is very good. The used Celica, though, is great for smaller people IMO(myself being one of them), is fun, quick, and looks beautiful in the light blue/silver paint. It would push a lot of happy buttons for most women.

    And they both are dirt cheap to maintain compared to most of the other cars out there. Maybe $15K for a mint considion GTS or $18K or so for a new Tc.
  • thenebeanthenebean Member Posts: 1,124
    i think the original poster said they wanted AWD and a higher seating position :P

    that knocks out most of your suggestions ;)

    -thene
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    With the Forrester all the way. They handle fairly well and have a higher seating position then most cars.
  • erics6erics6 Member Posts: 684
    I second or third the Forester. Seat height is adjustable and Subaru has a great AWD system. Excellent crash test scores too. Subaru offers a XT model with a nice turbo. Normally aspirated 2.5 is fine for me powerwise.

    If money really is no issue, the Volvo XC wagon is pretty nice. Not a big fan of Volvo reliability though. Super safe though.
  • cerebus1cerebus1 Member Posts: 5
    Thanks for the feedback.

    The vehicle that my wife is replacing, is a Forester. It was OK (neither bad not great), but she'd like something a little classier.

    I was originally thinking of an Audi A3 or Volvo V50 with AWD ... but no heightened driving position in these.

    She likes smaller vehicles so I then thought about an Acura RDX, which sounds OK although it is more on the sporty side and she would never be utilizing those extra HP.

    I'm now thinking a Honda CRV with all the trimings (leather heated seats, XM Radio, etc). The only negative is the ho-hum factor of the non-luxury brands.
  • gussguss Member Posts: 1,167
    the Dodge Caliber. It has AWD and a higher seating position. It should be cheaper to buy than the RAv4 or CRV.

    The only quetion would be the reliability because it is so new.
  • dougb10dougb10 Member Posts: 185
    If your wife wants something "a little classier than the Forester", have you thought about the Subaru Outback Limited?
    In my opinion, the interior has a very sharp and "BMW-like" feel to it, the 4 cylinder engine has ample power and good fuel economy. The Outback also has a better ride than the Forester.
    Just a thought....
    Doug
  • suydamsuydam Member Posts: 5,063
    I had a Forester once so I know what you mean about wanting something a little classier. The new CRV sounds like it would meet her needs and wants.
    '24 Kia Sportage PHEV
    '24 Chevy Blazer EV 2LT
  • exb0exb0 Member Posts: 539
    Hmm, classier, AWD, luxury brand, midsize SUV; easy, Lexus RX350. I know my wife is lusting for one, but she needs something bigger.
  • dhamiltondhamilton Member Posts: 878
    My seat time in the RX350 has left me wondering what all the fuss is about. It handles poorly, it's not exceptionally quiet,or smooth over road undulations, and it's very expensive. At that price point, and if insistence on "Japanese reliability" is concrete, I think the new MDX is profoundly better in every aspect.

    Or, what about the X3?
  • robbiegrobbieg Member Posts: 350
    Try the Mazda CX-7. It has optional leather and has a little more punch than CRV.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    I agree on the RX. I haven't driven a 350 yet but I assume it will be the same as the 330.

    I have only driven one X3, and it had been in an accident, but it didn't do much for me either. Was fairly quiet and peppy though.
  • cerebus1cerebus1 Member Posts: 5
    Wow ... first time using the Edmunds forum and I didn't expect so much conversation on my question.

    My vehicle is a Highlander and this serves as the family car. Again, my wife's vehicle is strictly a weekday commuter (15 minutes there and 15 minutes back on side streets) ... no weekend use.

    The Lexus RX is too much of everything for such a task.

    Given AWD and height ... a small SUV would still appear the best solution. That leaves the Honda CRV, or the Acura RDX if I want to spend more cash (BMW dealership is very far away, so X3 is a good choice but not an option).
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    I shouldn't suggest this since you said the BMW dealership is very far away and this car is not even out yet...

    A Land Rover LR2 will fit right in between a RDX and a X3 in price range with the same or more features depending on the options you pick.

    It won't be out till april though and most likely there is not a Land Rover dealer any where near you.
  • jensadjensad Member Posts: 388
    Dear cerebus

    JMO, I believe that safety is of paramount importance when driving in commute traffic. I would suggest looking at the National Highway Traffic Safety Institute web site for crash safety results.

    My wife drives a Pilot to work and I drive an RX 330. And I really believe in 4 doors. I have seen many accidents where 2 doors were a barrier to quick exit of the vehicle in case of accident/injuries.

    Good luck to all and stay safe.

    jensad
  • Karen_SKaren_S Member Posts: 5,092
    A reporter is looking to interview consumers who are annoyed, confused, overwhelmed, frustrated, etc. about all the automotive choices they have/had to consider before making a new car purchase.

    Please respond to jfallon@edmunds.com no later than January 31, 2007 with your daytime contact information and a few words about your experience.
  • plektoplekto Member Posts: 3,738
    Classier and not a SUV or hybrid...

    Again, a used IS300. Beautiful car. Handles like a Volvo, is as reliable as a Toyota, and has just enough luxury in it to feel not like a typical commuter-box.
  • blue330xiblue330xi Member Posts: 56
    Forrester or Mazda CX7 for great value. Rav-4 if it must be the most reliable and you are willing to pay a bit more for that. Forrester would be my choice but not sure its high enough for ya.
  • blufz1blufz1 Member Posts: 2,045
    I agree with you. The CRV would be the best choice.
  • sandman46sandman46 Member Posts: 1,798
    Can't go wrong with it!

    The Sandman :)
  • robbiegrobbieg Member Posts: 350
    Starting to think about a new car because I have a baby and a dog. Anyone have any thoughts on the Mazda5? They are much cheaper than buying a CRV or Rav4. Other possible cars would be a Matrix or Vibe. What does everyone think about these options.
  • erics6erics6 Member Posts: 684
    The 5 is nice if you don't need AWD. Around here you can pick a new one up for $15.5k-$16k easy. Same platform (stretched) as Volvo & European Focus. Engine is adequate for the weight. 5 speed is fun and auto works if you don't load six adults in it.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    The third row also has more space then many vehicles twice its size.
  • erics6erics6 Member Posts: 684
    Drive one and see what you think (if you haven't). A lot like the mid-90's Honda Odyssey... just the right size for a small family + dog.
  • poorbuyinewbiepoorbuyinewbie Member Posts: 8
    I have a 99 Chevy Prism with about 85,000 mi on it and an extended warranty that will run out at 100,000. I would like to get a new (or newer used) car, before this car has a problem that is not covered by the warranty. Here is the deal:
    - I pay $200 a month on my current car. I would like to keep about the same for payments.
    - I think I am just about even on what I owe on current loan and the value of the car as a trade in.
    - I will have about $1,500 to put down on a car.

    What can I afford, and of that what would be best?

    I would like something good on mileage and would consider a hybrid if I thought I could afford it.
    I have been researching Aveo, Yaris, Vibe, Civic, and Corolla. New and used. If the car is used, I only want it if there is going to be less than 30,000 miles on it. That was about what the prizm had when I bought it, and that leaves a good amount of life in the car for a few years.

    Mostly I am looking forward to a nice vehicle. I'm not talking Lexus, lol. Just from having a prizm which is a great car, but with manual windows and a basic interior. It would be nice to have the feel of a newer car. I really like the look of a yaris, but wonder if I will be able to afford it.

    I know around tax season dealers often have the double your refund deal. I filed my taxes already, but wonder if I should wait for one of those deals. Is there a certain time of year (hopefully soon) when dealers tend to have a certain promotion, annual or otherwise?

    I would also like to keep payments to 60-66 months tops.

    Thanks for any advice! :)
  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    Some basic math:

    60 * 200 = 12,000 - 1,500 = 10,500
    66 * 200 = 13,200 - 1,500 = 11,700

    So, those are the "out the door" (OTD) numbers you are shooting for.

    You could probably get a new Aveo in that price range, but I suspect that it will be more like the Prizm (interior wise) than the others.

    Which means that you'll probably have to go used to get the price you are looking for.
  • dtownfbdtownfb Member Posts: 2,918
    You can add money for the Prizm (trade-in) to that total. A thousand or so more, you might be able to get a Corrolla.
  • jipsterjipster Member Posts: 6,296
    After reading a few of your prior posts, I notice you still owe around $2,000 on the original loan. You are driving around 1,000 miles a month, and you have 15,000 miles of warranty left on a car with a history of excellent reliability and longevity.

    Come back next year!

    My advice it to hold onto the car for at least another year. You've got the meat of the interest paid off and are now primarily paying off the principle. Sell it privately in a year with maybe 2k of the warranty left. This will look attractive, if transferable, to a future buyer.
    2021 Honda Passport EX-L, 2020 Honda Accord EX-L, 2011 Hyundai Veracruz, 2010 Mercury Milan Premiere.
  • plektoplekto Member Posts: 3,738
    Sounds like you need to be looking at a lease.

    Anything else is a used car, because in reality:
    48 months(talking used here)*170(other $30 is interest on the loan)=8160. Now, $8000 can get you a fine used car, but at the end, you'll have a $4000 car most likely and also all the bills for maintainence and such.

    That's about $200 a month either way.

    Edit - though you should definately hang onto the BMW while the warranty lasts.
  • cccompsoncccompson Member Posts: 2,382
    I take issue with your basic premise here, poorbuyinnewbie.

    Among all of the cars produced the world over, you own one of the most reliable. This car should give you good service for as long as you own it. Pay it off and bank your monthly payment amount for awhile to build up your next down payment. Whatever repairs you'll have to make (likely few, maybe none) after 100K will cost you way less than $2400 per year.
  • zeroameca87zeroameca87 Member Posts: 2
    OK so i'm about to make the big leap of buying my first new car. I want to by a hybrid but i am unsure of the financial consequences i might face in the future. I have had my eye on the Ford Escape but i have fallen in love with the Mariner's interior. Most everyone I know has advised me against getting a US made automobile, stating that it would always be in need of repairs. I told myself not to listen but after reading some of these statements im having second thoughts. The only thing i want is a reliable compact SUV with good gas mileage and maybe a sun/moon roof. Any advise with supporting evidence?
  • poorbuyinewbiepoorbuyinewbie Member Posts: 8
    Thank you for all of your responses. My friend had a prism and the problems she started to have, began around 100,000 miles. Now let me ask this. I have about $1,700 left on the loan. It is a 99 Chevy Prism that I keep up with good struts, breaks, oil, spark plugs etc.

    There are some rust spots, and a dent/scrape from backing into a pole (opps.), but it is minor. On the back left of the bumper with some red paint from the pole on it. The back red light casing is cracked a little but the light still works. That is the worst of it. With the good condition of my car (except for a couple of cosmetic blemishes) warranty and mileage, how much are you saying the value should be? Just wondering so I can keep that in mind.

    I understand everyone saying wait. I probably should. I just want a new car so bad! lol. I guess that is the best thing for now. At least until I hear some unbeatable deal like 0% interest and like $2,000 cash back. lmao.

    Thanks again!

    --------------------------
    Zero,

    I have only bought used so far. I watched 'An Inconvenient Truth'. It made me realize that the American auto industry is just not in the business of making hybrid cars and cars with better gas emissions and mileage a top priority. Until they do, I plan to look to foreign cars myself. As for the cars you mention, I would just look them up here at Edmund's and check out the reviews. User's here put their reviews right with the car.

    My other 2 cents you may not need but I will give them in case they may be of use to you. When I went to buy the car I wanted, I had my set limit, a needs list and a want list. The needs were non-negotiable. The wants were nice, but would not make or break me buying a particular car. With any dealer, I held firm that if they did not meet my price, or said a price that was more, I would thank them and walk away. It seems hard at the time, but remembering that the car I want IS out there, gives me the power to walk away. They need me, not the other way around. Also, I absolutely test drive a car I am intersted in, check out buttons, sit in the back seat, open the trunk, etc.

    Finally, I never would not allow myself to say yes to a deal until I have left the dealership and gone home for a night. Leaving the dealership to consider the deal is huge. For one, you can come here and ask others if the deal sounds good. You can re-check msrp's and prices that others paid.
    It is probably the most important car buying rule that I have made for myself. Never buy a car the same day you see it for the first time.

    I'm personally a dork, so I will likely make a checklist to fill out for each car that I look at. This will help me to not forget to check anything and remember later what it had of my needs and wants, price etc. Then I will be able to compare them. Maybe even take a pic of each. Sounds like a lot of work, but at how much a car costs, I'm willing to do the leg work for a better deal!
  • jipsterjipster Member Posts: 6,296
    How much you get for your car would depend on if you are trading it in or selling it privately. Look up the cars worth on Edmunds Used Car TMV.
    2021 Honda Passport EX-L, 2020 Honda Accord EX-L, 2011 Hyundai Veracruz, 2010 Mercury Milan Premiere.
Sign In or Register to comment.