I need a little more information to work with, as there's a lot of good cars under $36K, but I'm guessing that from the posts before me that you really don't want a Buick.
The G35 has been mentioned, along with the TL and Honda Accord. All are excellent cars, and I would handily recommend any of them.
BUT, I'd add the following cars to the list:
Acura TSX. Smaller, lighter, and less powerful than the TL, it also gets better gas mileage. If you don't need that big of a car, it might be worth checking out. You should be able to get one for well under $30,000.
BMW 328i The class standard. Despite being on the pricey side, you can definitely get one for under $36K if you go easy on the options. However, many consider the G35 a better bargain, (I do as well), but it's still an excellent car.
Saab 9-3 Aero Saab's blowing them out, and it's a pretty good car, so it might be worth a look. The '07s are being discounted significantly to make way for the refreshed '08s.
On the smaller end of your price range, you could also consider a:
Honda Civic EX Excellent fuel economy, good handling, and all your typical Honda trademarks.
I can't find my Consumer Reports manual to check reliability. But, from what I recall it is and always has been excellent in reliability. I would definitely take a Japanese built car over a European built car if reliability is a priority.
High MPG is moot here, IMO, since the budget is so high, and 25 miles is just about when the car gets properly warmed up - so mpg will be in the ~20-25mpg range at best - just not worth saving $1 or less a day on fuel compared to a budget-box or yuppie toy(Pruis/etc)
Used: 1: I recommend a 2-3 year old IS300. Nothing for the money will handle or drive better. Handles like a Saab or Volvo. Reliable as a Toyota. Win-win situation. Much better car to drive, IME, than the newer models.(250 is underpowered and 350 is too heavy - should have left it alone) 2: Just forget about gas mileage and get something cheaper. You can get a 2000 S500 for instance, for about $25K used. This is just an example of the top-end and how you can get astoundingly great cars for well under $25K used. Though me, I'd get a 1999 S500 - the last of the big tanks. $14-16K and worth every penny. That buys a LOT of repairs compared to $35K new. 3: You could also get a RX-8 or S2000 or something sporty. 4: I know you don't like GM, but perhaps the best used deal in two months when the new models come out will be the Cadillac CTS. Great car.
New: RX-8. Hardly anything for the money if you don't have kids is better. $25K or less, easily, and Top Gear(U.K. auto show - highly recommended!) has it going exactly as fast around their test track as a BMW 3 and a 350Z. Silly fast for the price. Yet won't beat you up doing it(Z) or make your wallet scream(35K for a 3 is common)
I also love the S2000. And the Miata. And... (pattern should be emerging - lol). Though, I really like coupes myself more than convertibles.
I have a 2003 G35 Sedan, and basically, I've changed the tires - they weren't reliable afer 58K miles It's RWD, so you've gotta be OK with that. They make an AWD version, but it is not as much fun to drive IMO.
Acura TL is another excellent choice. If I'd had the cash at the time, that would've probably been my first choice, though having owned the G35, it'd now be a total toss-up.
Both are fun & sporty, and seem to be pretty good on reliability.
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My parents are about to buy me my first car within the next 2-3 months. My dad dosn't want to buy me a used car. dont wanna spend over 17,000. I wanted a yaris but I read that it dosn't have such great crash test ratings. I'm really big on finding something that has great safety features,I dont really care about something thats really fast or anything like that and i dont really want something thats that big.
I would recommend: Honda Fit Sport Honda Civic LX Scion xD Mazda3
Those are probably the best choices in the compact segment, IMO, but there are other solid choices that are less attractive, such as the Toyota Corolla, that are worth looking at if you don't mind a bland driving experience and a bland design.
My parents are about to buy me my first car within the next 2-3 months. My dad doesn't want to buy me a used car. dont wanna spend over 17,000. I wanted a yaris but I read that it doesn't have such great crash test ratings. I'm really big on finding something that has great safety features,I dont really care about something thats really fast or anything like that and i dont really want something thats that big.
Buy a Honda Fit, you might think it's not cool enough but the Fit really works well also I'd suggest the Scion xD which is all new and similar to the Fit. This has nothing to do with the fact that the Fit can actually turn into a huge Bed, as you are young and don't need it for a reason like that. But my wife sure liked that feature, just for sleeping of course. Hondas have excellent safety ratings and get great fuel economy if you drive them without a heavy foot. I'd also suggest a Smartfortwo car if you wanted a pure 2 seater as they are cheap and very safe and pretty cool looking but no power at all and room only for 2 people. Test drive a Fit Sport, it's awesome manual is better than the paddle shifters but either one is good!
The honda looks pretty cool, we'll probably check them out next week. HOLY POOP the smart cars are soo rad hahaha.It looks so fun to drive.I'd never seen one before.I'd love to get one!
The honda looks pretty cool, we'll probably check them out next week. HOLY POOP the smart cars are soo rad hahaha. It looks so fun to drive. I'd never seen one before. I'd love to get one!
The Honda Fit is really cool and the seats really are unique. That little car is amazing. i owned one, but traded it as I live outside the US right now and where i currently live you need a truck to handle the very bad roads and flooding during typhoons. The Smartfortwo car looks amazing and they actually smash it into a barrier at like 70mph! But it is very slow and pretty much only for city use. Go to Youtube and search for Smart Car and you'll see alot of videos from the UK. Lots of the Fit/Jazz as well. You can test drive a Fit but Smart is not yet available, it does look very cool tho. Check out the videos to see just how small they really are. If you want safe, fun and reliable the Fit can do all that. The Nissan Versa is also supposed to be good but I have never owned a Nissan that I've ever liked so i personally can't reccomend one. The new Scion xD is very cool and will be out in a few months to drive. might as well test drive what's on the dealers lot now.
I showed my dad the smart car,you shoulda seen his face haha,he thought I was joking.
We're going to the nissan dealership in a while then the honda. Im excited to see the fit,i've never seen anybody driving one or anything.
And I have a question do you have any idea how much they charge to move a car? See im in so cal,but i'm going to leave to college in the spring to portland,oregon. And i'm gonna need the car moved up there.
And I have a question do you have any idea how much they charge to move a car? See im in so cal,but i'm going to leave to college in the spring to portland,oregon. And i'm gonna need the car moved up there.
Road trip! You just drive it up there yourself. It's part of growing up. Give yourself enough time take some friends with you hand have a great time cruising up there. Buy whatever car you really like The Nissan Versa is supposed to be good as well but Honda is bullet proof. Just give yourself enough time for the trip and you'll be fine. Nothing develops confidence like doing things yourself. Remember all roads go somewhere, not always where you want to go but sooner or later they do go to a road that will take you where you want to go. Maps are a good way to figure out where you are going. Believe me at first it might be scary but then it's very liberating. sure you can pay someone to drive it for you but why? You're only young once I drove a lot long before I ever got my actual license. When I did get my license then i was always driving. That was a long time ago. Have fun with your car insure it well and drive safely and you will be ok. Buy a Rand Mcnally map covering the areas you will be driving to, don't rely on Nav systems until you can read a map. Be sure to post what you got and how you like it. Oh remember the Fit has paddle shifters if you don't want the fun of a real manual. Me I only buy manuals but just remember your butt is going to be in that seat a lot more than you think, so really like what you buy.
Hi there I hope I'm posting in the right place. I have been driving a 1990 Toyota 4-runner 4 cylinder. It has been a great vehicle for my needs, but due to an unfortunate fender bender, I need to find another vehicle, preferably newer, with no big dents! I would really appreciate anyone's suggestions for what might meet my needs, because I wasn't planning on retiring my truck for another couple of years. I'd prefer a used vehicle instead of new, and I don't know yet about price...it depends on if I find the perfect vehicle (preferably less than 20,000, but I could probably go up to 35,000 or so) My needs: - fuel efficient but still has good cargo capacity. The 4-cylinder truck was good for me because I didn't haul trailers or anything, but I did often fill it up with dogs and bikes and stuff (the 4 cylinder was way more fuel efficient than the V6). Because I do have a couple of dogs travelling with me, if I did go with a truck I would still need it to have a backseat. Is there another vehicle out there that balances fuel efficiency and cargo space? (any hybrids?) - good winter handling. My 4 runner had a lift package and of course 4-wheel drive, so I could get through anything (although I know that 4 wheel drive doesn't usually go together with fuel efficiency). If I go with a truck this time, I need to make sure I can be safe on icy highways. - reliable. I have had nothing but good things to say about Toyota. I've had many other vehicles in the past, but this truck has given me the least trouble in terms repairs and maintenance. - Note: passenger space isn't a big issue...I don't often have passengers. Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks everyone Karen
Hi there I hope I'm posting in the right place. I have been driving a 1990 Toyota 4-runner 4 cylinder. It has been a great vehicle for my needs, but due to an unfortunate fender bender, I need to find another vehicle, preferably newer, with no big dents! I would really appreciate anyone's suggestions for what might meet my needs, because I wasn't planning on retiring my truck for another couple of years. I'd prefer a used vehicle instead of new, and I don't know yet about price...it depends on if I find the perfect vehicle (preferably less than 20,000, but I could probably go up to 35,000 or so) My needs: - fuel efficient but still has good cargo capacity. The 4-cylinder truck was good for me because I didn't haul trailers or anything, but I did often fill it up with dogs and bikes and stuff (the 4 cylinder was way more fuel efficient than the V6). Because I do have a couple of dogs travelling with me, if I did go with a truck I would still need it to have a backseat. Is there another vehicle out there that balances fuel efficiency and cargo space? (any hybrids?) - good winter handling. My 4 runner had a lift package and of course 4-wheel drive, so I could get through anything (although I know that 4 wheel drive doesn't usually go together with fuel efficiency). If I go with a truck this time, I need to make sure I can be safe on icy highways. - reliable. I have had nothing but good things to say about Toyota. I've had many other vehicles in the past, but this truck has given me the least trouble in terms repairs and maintenance. - Note: passenger space isn't a big issue...I don't often have passengers. Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks everyone Karen
i got to test drive the fit last night and the nissan..i found the car! the fit! its perfect. I was thinking of driving it up there since i've already driven by myself from san diego to san jose which is about 500 miles and it wasnt bad,so we'll see. I'm gonna get some quotes from a few dealerships,the one here only had one fit so yeah.
I just got a response back from a dealer and he said there selling em 200 over invoice but didn't tell me what the invoice was..hmm..
Toyota RAV4 or Highlander or, possibly, a Honda CRV would fit your requirements. The Toyotas can be had with a 4 or 6 while the Honda only has a 4.
Given your budget, it might be better to buy new since these vehicles tend to be pricey used. Also, that way you can get one equipped exactly as you want.
The perfect vehicle for you is: A 1994-5 4 Runner. Manual, 4 cylinder, 4WD.
Lol. No, seriosuly - get the same thing, just newer. I currently have a 1987 4Runner that's bulletproof, but it's lacking some safety and interior features as well as four doors. The models after the mid 90s(3rd and 4th) are essentially replacement for the older LandCruiser. Big, heavy, and counter to the idea of a small 4x4. Plus, no 4 cylinder engine. 1994 was the first year, IIRC, that R143a coolant was required, which is also a plus. Cheaper A/C repairs are a good thing.
http://www.top4runners.com/ja/runhist21994.html Lots of little changes for 1994 which make the 94/95 the best years IMO. And they aren't too expensive, either - it's not like the things actually break down. Mine has almost 350K on it and still gets me around.(and it's the older one, no less!)
Nothing else will make you happy - you'll loathe every minute if you get into an older sedan. Well, expect for maybe a Wrangler. Those are noisy and rough as hell but fun and hold their value well. Just make sure to get the I-6 with manual. The 4 is severely underpowered(imagine 1980s Buick underpowered) and it tends to eat engines as a result.
Oh - I really suggest removing the front and rear bumpers on the replacement whatever you get(if there's no airbag that is) and putting in some bull bars. And of course, nerf bars on the sides(I love Smittybilt). It gives it a raised 3-4 inches look as well as a much more agressive look at the same time. Plus, it'll never suffer another ding in its life(and plow through most things it hits :P )
edit: While you are at it, find one with a dying clutch. Save tons of money by haggling of course, and put in a Centerforce dual-friction clutch. Properly off-road-ify it. Then you'll know the transmission is good for another 100K+.
http://www.performanceintl.com/ They list the dual-friction for a 94/95 4-runner for $266.35. This is basically three times tougher than the OEM model. I beat mine up off-road and it still works afterards.
(note the above advice works for a Wrangler as well - heh)
If yo go changing your mind on driving yourself I'll bet there's loads of people who would drive it up for you. Heck, if I had the time off I'd do it myself!
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i got to test drive the fit last night and the nissan..i found the car! the fit! its perfect. I was thinking of driving it up there since i've already driven by myself from san diego to san jose which is about 500 miles and it wasn't bad,so we'll see. I'm gonna get some quotes from a few dealerships,the one here only had one fit so yeah.
I just got a response back from a dealer and he said there selling em 200 over invoice but didn't tell me what the invoice was..hmm..
Hey Congrats on making a decision. It's not as easy as people think sometimes. I had a Jazz (overseas model of the Fit) great car and does a LOT you won't beat ant Vette's but that isn't their purpose anyway and they look cool. You do know that Edmunds lists invoice on the Fit as well as TMV which is what people are paying for one. I don't know if you are getting the base or the Sport the CVT or the Manual. But just click on Edmunds.com at the top of the forum page, click on new cars and then check out Honda then pick Fit and it will tell you what MSRP Invoice and TMV price on the car is. If you are lower or the same as TMV then it's a good deal. So which did you like the CVT or the manual? Sport or Base model?
I tested the sport automatic. I wanted a manual but the dealerships i've checkd dont have one so i'll just get the auto. I cant seem to find the car in white which sucks but hey ya cant get everything.I saw a picture of a white one with pink rims its awesome haha.
I'll give you a bit of background before I go into it but I'm 27 been driving the same car since 2000 and I think it's time for a new car. I own a 1993 Taurus SHO bought the car used when I was 21 and still love it ,it was the first car I financed. Like any used car ... boy did this thing suck out of my wallet ( $9000 to be exact have receipts to prove it ) so I want worry free , I want to pick up a 2002 Audi S4 but the experience with my SHO is telling me otherwise , now I'm stuck... I like the 07 Cobalt supercharged but not sure if thats what I want for sure. As you can see I like sporty but want to be around $23,000 and I plan on leasing since I'm still keeping the SHO and millage won't be an issue, any suggestions??
I tested the sport automatic. I wanted a manual but the dealerships i've checked dont have one so i'll just get the auto. I cant seem to find the car in white which sucks but hey ya cant get everything. I saw a picture of a white one with pink rims its awesome haha.
Well you'd have like the rose pink car they had here in the Philippines. Not really a color I'd go for but some people liked it. The auto will be fun and you have all sorts of sport modes etc.... so that should be fun for you. hard to get the color you want no matter where you are but the 2008 models will be coming out soon so maybe the dealers will finally budge off of MSRP. or me I like the Vivid Blue with white rims, I had to buy a silver one because it was the only 2005 model in stock and the 2006's weren't out. Silver is ok tho. Just make sure the dealer shows you how to fully recline the seats and how to really use the paddle shifters. Learn the car so you know how to move the magic seats and all that. You'll have fun and while it's a long road trip if you have a friend to take along you'll have a great time and they can always take a bus back.
I'll give you a bit of background before I go into it but I'm 27 been driving the same car since 2000 and I think it's time for a new car. I own a 1993 Taurus SHO bought the car used when I was 21 and still love it ,it was the first car I financed. Like any used car ... boy did this thing suck out of my wallet ( $9000 to be exact have receipts to prove it ) so I want worry free , I want to pick up a 2002 Audi S4 but the experience with my SHO is telling me otherwise , now I'm stuck... I like the 07 Cobalt supercharged but not sure if thats what I want for sure. As you can see I like sporty but want to be around $23,000 and I plan on leasing since I'm still keeping the SHO and millage won't be an issue, any suggestions??
My honest suggestion is that you get down to your Subaru dealer and buy a 2007 WRX! The 2008 model will not be as good as the 2007 model. You can probably get a deal on one as the dealers are trying to finish selling all the old models and you should be able to buy it for close to$23K with year end discounts. The new ones will be hitting the showrooms pretty soon, so now is the time to buy. If I was in the US I'd buy a 2007 model over the 2008 as the 2007 model is edgier and has the same power but has a limited slip diff which helps performance and sporty, it's all of that and it's in your range. Audi will give you nightmare repair bills especially a used one. If you want old and great just buy a used Porsche 911 as that car would be worth fixing and a total blast to drive ditto the Porsche 968. But a new 2007 WRX will cover all your bets and you can choose the less sporty but more practical wagon or the sedan which is what I had. The 2008 Impreza WRX is fugly, lots of body roll and even Edmunds really disliked it for it's flaws. The old one rocks! The Chevy Cobalt SS? Did you read and watch the 2006 Sport Compact car shootout where they list all those cars? The Cobalt SS is just a rebadged Cavalier rental car. Edmunds has the video just go to Inside line and scope it out. The Mazda Spd3 lot of reliability issues, read the Mazda forums. But a Civic Si is supposed to be much better than a Cobalt SS and they were all tested together. Higher resale more reliability but the older WRX kicks Butt! I probably won't buy the new WRX as it's too ugly and not fun, but the older ones are awesome!
The thing is, that most of the "fun" cars aren't very reliable. I'd actually suggest a 2-3 year old Celica GTS. Nothing is going to be as fun and as reliable(least expensive Toyota to maintain aside from an Echo/Tercel).
Or a Honda S2000 used. Beautiful vehicle that won't depreciate very fast, and is as reliable as a Seiko watch.
Other than that, I'd also consider a Mini. Not because it is reliable, but because it only loses about 1-2K a year in depreciation. So you can drive it for a few three years and still get back 75-80% of your money.
The thing is, that most of the "fun" cars aren't very reliable. I'd actually suggest a 2-3 year old Celica GTS. Nothing is going to be as fun and as reliable(least expensive Toyota to maintain aside from an Echo/Tercel).
Subaru at least up until 2007 is very reliable. the 2008 is so new that no one can say but a 2007 is not a problem car in anyway and he asked for cars within his price range and the WRX fits, that as well as has a 0-60 time of 5.9 seconds. If you buy a used car you can also buy used problems. For $23K he can afford to steer clear of used cars. My point with the Porsche was if you are going to fix the car it might as well be something really decent.
Honda S2000, again a good car if you only need 2 seats and a 2 year old Miata would sticker for much less and be 9/10's as much fun. I went the used car route so often and almost always ended up regretting it. Now I just buy new. Used cars can be ok but when they are a lemon then you are just plain stuck.
Other than that, I'd also consider a Mini. Not because it is reliable, but because it only loses about 1-2K a year in depreciation. So you can drive it for a few three years and still get back 75-80% of your money.
Mini's won't hold that value for long. I considered one but unless you have a local dealer you will have to drive possibly very very far to get service and warranty work done and when they break, the parts are very hard to get. The Mini Forum on Edmunds lists a few complaints but I agree the Mini is a nice car as well and one can be had new. But no spare tire and RFT's are not the way I'd want to go after reading a lot about them.
So if you need 4 seats and a real world amount of power and sporty and with a new car warranty and a real spare tire the 2007 Subaru WRX still new with no miles on it is a great possibility and it's not used! Better a sporty new car than a sporty used one. The Honda would be ok if you can find a good deal on one and live with the extreme lack of torque. Those cars make all their power way up in the powerband and if this guy is coming out of a domestic which has a lot of low end grunt then going into a S2000 or a Civic Si means you have to drove it like you stole it to get the performance out of it. I drove an early model S2000 at an Autocross swapped keys for a fun run and if you keep it in the powerband it's great to drive! But fall out and here's nothing at all there for power.
I still second the Celica GTS. It's inexpensive, fun, super reliable, even used, and fast. It has no problem at lower speeds like a S2000. It even fits four people reasonably well. It's a shame they stopped making it, really, much like how Honda stopped making the Prelude(probably the Celica's closest competitor).
There's no problem with buying used. You just have to buy the RIGHT used car. And that means narrowing your choices down to about 10-15% of the market. If you go and buy something like a VW/Audi or a Dodge, well... you may just end up spending a small fortune.
The Miata is also a great car. Lovely power and reliability.
P.S. That statement on the Celica is based upon a search through various parts inventories. The hard parts for it are literally half what the same thing costs for a new Camry. Even Edmunds has it as one of the least expensive cars to own, used. But the least time I went into the Toyota dealer for my old 4Runner, I asked about several normal parts and the Celica was right with the Tercel/Aveo/Yaris and the Corolla/Matrix. Not bad for a sporty car. About as inexpensive as it gets, in fact, for something that's not a econobox.
http://www.edmunds.com/used/2004/toyota/celica/100335731/cto.html?setzip=91107&v- - - dp=off This I would easily recommend used. And it's FUN to drive. Be sure to also look at the maintenance and repairs. Very reasonable, IMO.(buying used, only the bottom two really apply, since most every other car will have similar consumables and insurance in this class) $7532 M&R for five years.
I don't think you'll see a 2008 Honda before September. That's when next year's models are typically released. I haven't read this forum in awhile, but I was going to suggest a Fit Sport, but the others here beat me to it. Great choice! Lots of safety features, and a hoot to drive. Great fuel economy as a bonus!
Keep us updated on your progress in getting a Fit!
Hi everyone A couple of people told me to check out the Highlander Hybrid or the Ford Escape Hybrid. Does anyone have any experience with these vehicles? Do you recommend them? Thanks! Karen
There's no problem with buying used. You just have to buy the RIGHT used car. And that means narrowing your choices down to about 10-15% of the market. If you go and buy something like a VW/Audi or a Dodge, well... you may just end up spending a small fortune.
I agree with you, it's just that if you are unlucky and I don't care who makes the car. if you buy one that has been a problem for the owner and he's bailing on it you will get stuck whether it's made by Ford, or Toyota or yugo or BMW, or Honda. It's a crap shoot IF you can afford a new car. The Celica has always been a good car, but for $23K you can buy a lot of new cars for that kind of dosh.
So really you are an advocate of used cars, which is ok just be certain that you have a good mechanic to fix it. all cars lose money over time and one of the few things I disagree with Edmunds on is depreciation. maybe they are spot on for dealer trade-ins but for private sale you don't lose as much as they indicate and it depends where you live as well. Subaru's have good resale in snowbelt states but probably less elsewhere. Honda has higher resale as does certain Toyotas compared to other cars even MINI right now has awesome resale, I doubt that will last but right now it's very high resale. The Celica is a good car, but new is generally the way to go unless you want a car that is very expensive new. But I know celicas are great i owned one fro about a year til I thrashed it too hard and it was a beater when I got it way back in the early day like late 1970's. I just think a new cr is a better deal especially for a guy who is fed up always fixing his car.
Do you have any idea of when the 08's will come out? I wouldn't mind waiting for the 08.
They are arriving at dealers but a new WRX will set you back a lot more money and if that's ok with you then by all means go for it. Edmunds did a review of the new WRX which except for the interior being changed and the "new love it or hate it" look. You get a better deal with the outgoing model and the new model has the same engine and some other differences like no LSD in the new model. But in Canada the 2008 WRX's are sitting on the dealers lots. I have no idea when they will be out until someone posts about it. I saw that someone said September, possibly I really don't know but I do have the pricing sheet as a .jpg that someone posted. As long as you are happy with what you are buying that is what is really important. Most of us car guys are very passionate about what we like.
Sorry I confused the WRX with the Fit since it's 2 different posts I've replied to. Sorry I don't know when the new Fit will be out but September would be very likely.
I see a lot of points here but used is not an option ... been there done that and as far as an S2000 not practical I agree beautiful but I used to sell cars and one thing I can tell you is the car you drive makes a big statement as too what you want to drive next , as for the Subaru I haven't considered it so I will be stopping by a dealer over the weekend and test driving one, I also forgot to mention I'm 6'2 tall so most small vehicles aren't up for the task. I was hower impressed with the Cobalt ( lol can't believe I'm saying this ) but GM? who knows I just think if I'm driving it for a few years leased or not I better love it. I honestly wish the Prelude was still in production I wouldn't be hesitating like I am now. Any other vehicles similar to the WRX I should also be looking at?
btw not that I don't like the new SI but my SHO will walk all over those no problem .... automatic disqualification
I am looking for a new vehicle. I have tons of criteria I want it to meet, but I'm afraid I'm going to have to compromise significantly to get what I want at a price of around $20,000. Actually, I don't think my perfect vehicle exists.
Anyway, the purpose of this post is to ask for suggestions regarding my most non-negotiable requirement. I am a 54-year-old woman who is hearing impaired, and I wear hearing aids. Due to wind noise, it is difficult for me to converse when driving/riding in a car. Does anyone know of any stats which might show me the quietest cars. I have read the Consumer Reports and Edmunds reviews and have seen references to engine noise as well as "suspension noise" (dont' know what that is), but I think what causes me the most problem is the wind noise. Or maybe the noise of the tires on the road. I don't know for sure, but it's a big problem for me. It interferes with listening to the radio and talking on my Blue Tooth phone. I am currently driving a 2004 Acura TL, which will go to my husband when I get my new vehicle. This is what I'm looking for in a new vehicle:
1. Safety! I want side curtain airbags and head air bags. Also stability control. 2. Easy accessibility -- I'm getting older and sometimes I feel like I'm climbing out of a hole when I get out of my low car. 3. Good visibility -- I hate the slanted sedan back windows which seem to be in all cars. 4. Use of regular gas. 5. Leather seats. 6. Cuteness/uniqueness (at least a tiny bit of it). 7. Around $20,000. I have had it with paying off $32,000 cars. For me, the thrill of driving a luxury car is quickly offset by having those high payments!
And QUIETNESS. Are there other hearing aid-wearing people out there who can suggest something? I want to drive this car for 10-12 years.
tend to be the more expensive ones, so if you really only want to spend $20,000 you may have to buy used. My '01 Nissan Maxima is extremely quiet; anyone have experience with the new ones? Accessibility may also mean switching to an SUV type like Lexus. Do you want to try that route or are you committed to sedans? One idea: the Nissan Versa CVT transmission is very quiet, and you do sit up higher than in a regular sedan. I was amazed at how quiet it is; usually smaller cars are loud. You can also get one for well under $20k. If they don't have leather seats you can always add that aftermarket and the leather is often nicer that way anyway, so don't let cloth seats initially scare you off. I think the Versa meets all your other requirements.
I am looking for a new vehicle. I have tons of criteria I want it to meet, but I'm afraid I'm going to have to compromise significantly to get what I want at a price of around $20,000. Actually, I don't think my perfect vehicle exists.
And QUIETNESS. Are there other hearing aid-wearing people out there who can suggest something? I want to drive this car for 10-12 years.
I am also open to used cars.
Staying "around" 20k (up to? and getting all luxury/safety goodies on a new vehicle can be tricky. I believe that only Hyun/Kias (Sonata?) and perhaps a used domestic (Impala? - do they come with all these airbags) would fit the criteria. A Camry or an Accord with leather will be 3-4k over 20k, more OTD if your state has significant sales tax. If you will be choosing between Honda and Toyota, Toyota vehicles (of the same class) have historically been quieter. You drive an Accord-derived TL and are trying to get a quieter ride - a new 20k mid-level Accord will have less sound insulation (but perhaps less aggressive suspension and tires?)
Maybe a used Buick LaCrosse or Lucerne - not sure what can be had for 20k. Or a new Ford 500/Taurus?
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Head out to some foreign car dealerships. Talk to the friendly salesmen.
They'll be glad to help you.
The G35 has been mentioned, along with the TL and Honda Accord. All are excellent cars, and I would handily recommend any of them.
BUT, I'd add the following cars to the list:
Acura TSX. Smaller, lighter, and less powerful than the TL, it also gets better gas mileage. If you don't need that big of a car, it might be worth checking out. You should be able to get one for well under $30,000.
BMW 328i The class standard. Despite being on the pricey side, you can definitely get one for under $36K if you go easy on the options. However, many consider the G35 a better bargain, (I do as well), but it's still an excellent car.
Saab 9-3 Aero Saab's blowing them out, and it's a pretty good car, so it might be worth a look. The '07s are being discounted significantly to make way for the refreshed '08s.
On the smaller end of your price range, you could also consider a:
Honda Civic EX Excellent fuel economy, good handling, and all your typical Honda trademarks.
What cars are you thinking you might like? You must have some ideas.
I can't find my Consumer Reports manual to check reliability. But, from what I recall it is and always has been excellent in reliability. I would definitely take a Japanese built car over a European built car if reliability is a priority.
Used:
1: I recommend a 2-3 year old IS300. Nothing for the money will handle or drive better. Handles like a Saab or Volvo. Reliable as a Toyota. Win-win situation. Much better car to drive, IME, than the newer models.(250 is underpowered and 350 is too heavy - should have left it alone)
2: Just forget about gas mileage and get something cheaper. You can get a 2000 S500 for instance, for about $25K used. This is just an example of the top-end and how you can get astoundingly great cars for well under $25K used. Though me, I'd get a 1999 S500 - the last of the big tanks. $14-16K and worth every penny. That buys a LOT of repairs compared to $35K new.
3: You could also get a RX-8 or S2000 or something sporty.
4: I know you don't like GM, but perhaps the best used deal in two months when the new models come out will be the Cadillac CTS. Great car.
New:
RX-8. Hardly anything for the money if you don't have kids is better. $25K or less, easily, and Top Gear(U.K. auto show - highly recommended!) has it going exactly as fast around their test track as a BMW 3 and a 350Z. Silly fast for the price. Yet won't beat you up doing it(Z) or make your wallet scream(35K for a 3 is common)
I also love the S2000. And the Miata. And... (pattern should be emerging - lol). Though, I really like coupes myself more than convertibles.
-thene
Acura TL is another excellent choice. If I'd had the cash at the time, that would've probably been my first choice, though having owned the G35, it'd now be a total toss-up.
Both are fun & sporty, and seem to be pretty good on reliability.
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I've driven the G35 and it's hopelessly mediocre compared to what it could be if it were about 600-800 lbs lighter.
Told ya so.
Enjoy your new ride!
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My dad dosn't want to buy me a used car.
dont wanna spend over 17,000.
I wanted a yaris but I read that it dosn't have such great crash test ratings.
I'm really big on finding something that has great safety features,I dont really care about something thats really fast or anything like that and i dont really want something thats that big.
Any reccomendations?
First instinct: Mazda 3 (base engine), Civic (LX), Cobalt, Focus, Scion Xd.
Honda Fit Sport
Honda Civic LX
Scion xD
Mazda3
Those are probably the best choices in the compact segment, IMO, but there are other solid choices that are less attractive, such as the Toyota Corolla, that are worth looking at if you don't mind a bland driving experience and a bland design.
My dad doesn't want to buy me a used car.
dont wanna spend over 17,000.
I wanted a yaris but I read that it doesn't have such great crash test ratings.
I'm really big on finding something that has great safety features,I dont really care about something thats really fast or anything like that and i dont really want something thats that big.
Buy a Honda Fit, you might think it's not cool enough but the Fit really works well also I'd suggest the Scion xD which is all new and similar to the Fit.
This has nothing to do with the fact that the Fit can actually turn into a huge Bed, as you are young and don't need it for a reason like that. But my wife sure liked that feature, just for sleeping of course.
Hondas have excellent safety ratings and get great fuel economy if you drive them without a heavy foot.
I'd also suggest a Smartfortwo car if you wanted a pure 2 seater as they are cheap and very safe and pretty cool looking but no power at all and room only for 2 people.
Test drive a Fit Sport, it's awesome manual is better than the paddle shifters but either one is good!
HOLY POOP the smart cars are soo rad hahaha.It looks so fun to drive.I'd never seen one before.I'd love to get one!
HOLY POOP the smart cars are soo rad hahaha. It looks so fun to drive. I'd never seen one before. I'd love to get one!
The Honda Fit is really cool and the seats really are unique. That little car is amazing. i owned one, but traded it as I live outside the US right now and where i currently live you need a truck to handle the very bad roads and flooding during typhoons.
The Smartfortwo car looks amazing and they actually smash it into a barrier at like 70mph!
But it is very slow and pretty much only for city use.
Go to Youtube and search for Smart Car and you'll see alot of videos from the UK. Lots of the Fit/Jazz as well.
You can test drive a Fit but Smart is not yet available, it does look very cool tho. Check out the videos to see just how small they really are.
If you want safe, fun and reliable the Fit can do all that. The Nissan Versa is also supposed to be good but I have never owned a Nissan that I've ever liked so i personally can't reccomend one. The new Scion xD is very cool and will be out in a few months to drive.
might as well test drive what's on the dealers lot now.
We're going to the nissan dealership in a while then the honda.
Im excited to see the fit,i've never seen anybody driving one or anything.
And I have a question do you have any idea how much they charge to move a car?
See im in so cal,but i'm going to leave to college in the spring to portland,oregon. And i'm gonna need the car moved up there.
See im in so cal,but i'm going to leave to college in the spring to portland,oregon. And i'm gonna need the car moved up there.
Road trip! You just drive it up there yourself. It's part of growing up. Give yourself enough time take some friends with you hand have a great time cruising up there. Buy whatever car you really like The Nissan Versa is supposed to be good as well but Honda is bullet proof.
Just give yourself enough time for the trip and you'll be fine. Nothing develops confidence like doing things yourself. Remember all roads go somewhere, not always where you want to go but sooner or later they do go to a road that will take you where you want to go.
Maps are a good way to figure out where you are going.
Believe me at first it might be scary but then it's very liberating.
sure you can pay someone to drive it for you but why? You're only young once I drove a lot long before I ever got my actual license. When I did get my license then i was always driving. That was a long time ago. Have fun with your car insure it well and drive safely and you will be ok. Buy a Rand Mcnally map covering the areas you will be driving to, don't rely on Nav systems until you can read a map.
Be sure to post what you got and how you like it.
Oh remember the Fit has paddle shifters if you don't want the fun of a real manual. Me I only buy manuals but just remember your butt is going to be in that seat a lot more than you think, so really like what you buy.
I hope I'm posting in the right place. I have been driving a 1990 Toyota 4-runner 4 cylinder. It has been a great vehicle for my needs, but due to an unfortunate fender bender, I need to find another vehicle, preferably newer, with no big dents! I would really appreciate anyone's suggestions for what might meet my needs, because I wasn't planning on retiring my truck for another couple of years. I'd prefer a used vehicle instead of new, and I don't know yet about price...it depends on if I find the perfect vehicle (preferably less than 20,000, but I could probably go up to 35,000 or so)
My needs:
- fuel efficient but still has good cargo capacity. The 4-cylinder truck was good for me because I didn't haul trailers or anything, but I did often fill it up with dogs and bikes and stuff (the 4 cylinder was way more fuel efficient than the V6). Because I do have a couple of dogs travelling with me, if I did go with a truck I would still need it to have a backseat. Is there another vehicle out there that balances fuel efficiency and cargo space? (any hybrids?)
- good winter handling. My 4 runner had a lift package and of course 4-wheel drive, so I could get through anything (although I know that 4 wheel drive doesn't usually go together with fuel efficiency). If I go with a truck this time, I need to make sure I can be safe on icy highways.
- reliable. I have had nothing but good things to say about Toyota. I've had many other vehicles in the past, but this truck has given me the least trouble in terms repairs and maintenance.
- Note: passenger space isn't a big issue...I don't often have passengers.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Thanks everyone
Karen
I hope I'm posting in the right place. I have been driving a 1990 Toyota 4-runner 4 cylinder. It has been a great vehicle for my needs, but due to an unfortunate fender bender, I need to find another vehicle, preferably newer, with no big dents! I would really appreciate anyone's suggestions for what might meet my needs, because I wasn't planning on retiring my truck for another couple of years. I'd prefer a used vehicle instead of new, and I don't know yet about price...it depends on if I find the perfect vehicle (preferably less than 20,000, but I could probably go up to 35,000 or so)
My needs:
- fuel efficient but still has good cargo capacity. The 4-cylinder truck was good for me because I didn't haul trailers or anything, but I did often fill it up with dogs and bikes and stuff (the 4 cylinder was way more fuel efficient than the V6). Because I do have a couple of dogs travelling with me, if I did go with a truck I would still need it to have a backseat. Is there another vehicle out there that balances fuel efficiency and cargo space? (any hybrids?)
- good winter handling. My 4 runner had a lift package and of course 4-wheel drive, so I could get through anything (although I know that 4 wheel drive doesn't usually go together with fuel efficiency). If I go with a truck this time, I need to make sure I can be safe on icy highways.
- reliable. I have had nothing but good things to say about Toyota. I've had many other vehicles in the past, but this truck has given me the least trouble in terms repairs and maintenance.
- Note: passenger space isn't a big issue...I don't often have passengers.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Thanks everyone
Karen
I was thinking of driving it up there since i've already driven by myself from san diego to san jose which is about 500 miles and it wasnt bad,so we'll see.
I'm gonna get some quotes from a few dealerships,the one here only had one fit so yeah.
I just got a response back from a dealer and he said there selling em 200 over invoice but didn't tell me what the invoice was..hmm..
Given your budget, it might be better to buy new since these vehicles tend to be pricey used. Also, that way you can get one equipped exactly as you want.
A 1994-5 4 Runner. Manual, 4 cylinder, 4WD.
Lol. No, seriosuly - get the same thing, just newer. I currently have a 1987 4Runner that's bulletproof, but it's lacking some safety and interior features as well as four doors. The models after the mid 90s(3rd and 4th) are essentially replacement for the older LandCruiser. Big, heavy, and counter to the idea of a small 4x4. Plus, no 4 cylinder engine. 1994 was the first year, IIRC, that R143a coolant was required, which is also a plus. Cheaper A/C repairs are a good thing.
http://www.top4runners.com/ja/runhist21994.html
Lots of little changes for 1994 which make the 94/95 the best years IMO. And they aren't too expensive, either - it's not like the things actually break down. Mine has almost 350K on it and still gets me around.(and it's the older one, no less!)
Nothing else will make you happy - you'll loathe every minute if you get into an older sedan. Well, expect for maybe a Wrangler. Those are noisy and rough as hell but fun and hold their value well. Just make sure to get the I-6 with manual. The 4 is severely underpowered(imagine 1980s Buick underpowered) and it tends to eat engines as a result.
Oh - I really suggest removing the front and rear bumpers on the replacement whatever you get(if there's no airbag that is) and putting in some bull bars. And of course, nerf bars on the sides(I love Smittybilt). It gives it a raised 3-4 inches look as well as a much more agressive look at the same time. Plus, it'll never suffer another ding in its life(and plow through most things it hits :P )
edit: While you are at it, find one with a dying clutch. Save tons of money by haggling of course, and put in a Centerforce dual-friction clutch. Properly off-road-ify it. Then you'll know the transmission is good for another 100K+.
http://www.performanceintl.com/
They list the dual-friction for a 94/95 4-runner for $266.35. This is basically three times tougher than the OEM model. I beat mine up off-road and it still works afterards.
(note the above advice works for a Wrangler as well - heh)
If yo go changing your mind on driving yourself I'll bet there's loads of people who would drive it up for you. Heck, if I had the time off I'd do it myself!
I was thinking of driving it up there since i've already driven by myself from san diego to san jose which is about 500 miles and it wasn't bad,so we'll see.
I'm gonna get some quotes from a few dealerships,the one here only had one fit so yeah.
I just got a response back from a dealer and he said there selling em 200 over invoice but didn't tell me what the invoice was..hmm..
Hey Congrats on making a decision. It's not as easy as people think sometimes. I had a Jazz (overseas model of the Fit) great car and does a LOT you won't beat ant Vette's but that isn't their purpose anyway and they look cool.
You do know that Edmunds lists invoice on the Fit as well as TMV which is what people are paying for one.
I don't know if you are getting the base or the Sport the CVT or the Manual. But just click on Edmunds.com at the top of the forum page, click on new cars and then check out Honda then pick Fit and it will tell you what MSRP Invoice and TMV price on the car is.
If you are lower or the same as TMV then it's a good deal.
So which did you like the CVT or the manual? Sport or Base model?
I cant seem to find the car in white which sucks but hey ya cant get everything.I saw a picture of a white one with pink rims its awesome haha.
I cant seem to find the car in white which sucks but hey ya cant get everything. I saw a picture of a white one with pink rims its awesome haha.
Well you'd have like the rose pink car they had here in the Philippines. Not really a color I'd go for but some people liked it.
The auto will be fun and you have all sorts of sport modes etc.... so that should be fun for you.
hard to get the color you want no matter where you are but the 2008 models will be coming out soon so maybe the dealers will finally budge off of MSRP.
or me I like the Vivid Blue with white rims, I had to buy a silver one because it was the only 2005 model in stock and the 2006's weren't out. Silver is ok tho.
Just make sure the dealer shows you how to fully recline the seats and how to really use the paddle shifters.
Learn the car so you know how to move the magic seats and all that. You'll have fun and while it's a long road trip if you have a friend to take along you'll have a great time and they can always take a bus back.
My honest suggestion is that you get down to your Subaru dealer and buy a 2007 WRX! The 2008 model will not be as good as the 2007 model.
You can probably get a deal on one as the dealers are trying to finish selling all the old models and you should be able to buy it for close to$23K with year end discounts.
The new ones will be hitting the showrooms pretty soon, so now is the time to buy. If I was in the US I'd buy a 2007 model over the 2008 as the 2007 model is edgier and has the same power but has a limited slip diff which helps performance and sporty, it's all of that and it's in your range. Audi will give you nightmare repair bills especially a used one.
If you want old and great just buy a used Porsche 911 as that car would be worth fixing and a total blast to drive ditto the Porsche 968.
But a new 2007 WRX will cover all your bets and you can choose the less sporty but more practical wagon or the sedan which is what I had. The 2008 Impreza WRX is fugly, lots of body roll and even Edmunds really disliked it for it's flaws. The old one rocks!
The Chevy Cobalt SS? Did you read and watch the 2006 Sport Compact car shootout where they list all those cars? The Cobalt SS is just a rebadged Cavalier rental car.
Edmunds has the video just go to Inside line and scope it out. The Mazda Spd3 lot of reliability issues, read the Mazda forums. But a Civic Si is supposed to be much better than a Cobalt SS and they were all tested together. Higher resale more reliability but the older WRX kicks Butt!
I probably won't buy the new WRX as it's too ugly and not fun, but the older ones are awesome!
Or a Honda S2000 used. Beautiful vehicle that won't depreciate very fast, and is as reliable as a Seiko watch.
Other than that, I'd also consider a Mini. Not because it is reliable, but because it only loses about 1-2K a year in depreciation. So you can drive it for a few three years and still get back 75-80% of your money.
Subaru at least up until 2007 is very reliable. the 2008 is so new that no one can say but a 2007 is not a problem car in anyway and he asked for cars within his price range and the WRX fits, that as well as has a 0-60 time of 5.9 seconds.
If you buy a used car you can also buy used problems. For $23K he can afford to steer clear of used cars. My point with the Porsche was if you are going to fix the car it might as well be something really decent.
Honda S2000, again a good car if you only need 2 seats and a 2 year old Miata would sticker for much less and be 9/10's as much fun.
I went the used car route so often and almost always ended up regretting it. Now I just buy new. Used cars can be ok but when they are a lemon then you are just plain stuck.
Other than that, I'd also consider a Mini. Not because it is reliable, but because it only loses about 1-2K a year in depreciation. So you can drive it for a few three years and still get back 75-80% of your money.
Mini's won't hold that value for long. I considered one but unless you have a local dealer you will have to drive possibly very very far to get service and warranty work done and when they break, the parts are very hard to get.
The Mini Forum on Edmunds lists a few complaints but I agree the Mini is a nice car as well and one can be had new. But no spare tire and RFT's are not the way I'd want to go after reading a lot about them.
So if you need 4 seats and a real world amount of power and sporty and with a new car warranty and a real spare tire the 2007 Subaru WRX still new with no miles on it is a great possibility and it's not used!
Better a sporty new car than a sporty used one.
The Honda would be ok if you can find a good deal on one and live with the extreme lack of torque. Those cars make all their power way up in the powerband and if this guy is coming out of a domestic which has a lot of low end grunt then going into a S2000 or a Civic Si means you have to drove it like you stole it to get the performance out of it. I drove an early model S2000 at an Autocross swapped keys for a fun run and if you keep it in the powerband it's great to drive! But fall out and here's nothing at all there for power.
There's no problem with buying used. You just have to buy the RIGHT used car. And that means narrowing your choices down to about 10-15% of the market. If you go and buy something like a VW/Audi or a Dodge, well... you may just end up spending a small fortune.
The Miata is also a great car.
P.S. That statement on the Celica is based upon a search through various parts inventories. The hard parts for it are literally half what the same thing costs for a new Camry. Even Edmunds has it as one of the least expensive cars to own, used. But the least time I went into the Toyota dealer for my old 4Runner, I asked about several normal parts and the Celica was right with the Tercel/Aveo/Yaris and the Corolla/Matrix. Not bad for a sporty car. About as inexpensive as it gets, in fact, for something that's not a econobox.
http://www.edmunds.com/used/2004/toyota/celica/100335731/cto.html?setzip=91107&v- - - dp=off
This I would easily recommend used. And it's FUN to drive. Be sure to also look at the maintenance and repairs. Very reasonable, IMO.(buying used, only the bottom two really apply, since most every other car will have similar consumables and insurance in this class)
$7532 M&R for five years.
http://www.edmunds.com/used/2004/subaru/impreza/100273627/cto.html?setzip=91107&- vdp=off
Not as good - $9252
http://www.edmunds.com/used/2004/audi/a4/100311571/cto.html?setzip=91107&vdp=off- - -
$11866 M&R for five years. Yikes.
Keep us updated on your progress in getting a Fit!
A couple of people told me to check out the Highlander Hybrid or the Ford Escape Hybrid. Does anyone have any experience with these vehicles? Do you recommend them?
Thanks!
Karen
I agree with you, it's just that if you are unlucky and I don't care who makes the car. if you buy one that has been a problem for the owner and he's bailing on it you will get stuck whether it's made by Ford, or Toyota or yugo or BMW, or Honda.
It's a crap shoot IF you can afford a new car. The Celica has always been a good car, but for $23K you can buy a lot of new cars for that kind of dosh.
So really you are an advocate of used cars, which is ok just be certain that you have a good mechanic to fix it.
all cars lose money over time and one of the few things I disagree with Edmunds on is depreciation. maybe they are spot on for dealer trade-ins but for private sale you don't lose as much as they indicate and it depends where you live as well. Subaru's have good resale in snowbelt states but probably less elsewhere.
Honda has higher resale as does certain Toyotas compared to other cars even MINI right now has awesome resale, I doubt that will last but right now it's very high resale.
The Celica is a good car, but new is generally the way to go unless you want a car that is very expensive new.
But I know celicas are great i owned one fro about a year til I thrashed it too hard and it was a beater when I got it way back in the early day like late 1970's. I just think a new cr is a better deal especially for a guy who is fed up always fixing his car.
They are arriving at dealers but a new WRX will set you back a lot more money and if that's ok with you then by all means go for it. Edmunds did a review of the new WRX which except for the interior being changed and the "new love it or hate it" look. You get a better deal with the outgoing model and the new model has the same engine and some other differences like no LSD in the new model. But in Canada the 2008 WRX's are sitting on the dealers lots.
I have no idea when they will be out until someone posts about it.
I saw that someone said September, possibly I really don't know but I do have the pricing sheet as a .jpg that someone posted.
As long as you are happy with what you are buying that is what is really important. Most of us car guys are very passionate about what we like.
btw not that I don't like the new SI but my SHO will walk all over those no problem .... automatic disqualification
Anyway, the purpose of this post is to ask for suggestions regarding my most non-negotiable requirement. I am a 54-year-old woman who is hearing impaired, and I wear hearing aids. Due to wind noise, it is difficult for me to converse when driving/riding in a car. Does anyone know of any stats which might show me the quietest cars. I have read the Consumer Reports and Edmunds reviews and have seen references to engine noise as well as "suspension noise" (dont' know what that is), but I think what causes me the most problem is the wind noise. Or maybe the noise of the tires on the road. I don't know for sure, but it's a big problem for me. It interferes with listening to the radio and talking on my Blue Tooth phone. I am currently driving a 2004 Acura TL, which will go to my husband when I get my new vehicle. This is what I'm looking for in a new vehicle:
1. Safety! I want side curtain airbags and head air bags. Also stability control.
2. Easy accessibility -- I'm getting older and sometimes I feel like I'm climbing out of a hole when I get out of my low car.
3. Good visibility -- I hate the slanted sedan back windows which seem to be in all cars.
4. Use of regular gas.
5. Leather seats.
6. Cuteness/uniqueness (at least a tiny bit of it).
7. Around $20,000. I have had it with paying off $32,000 cars. For me, the thrill of driving a luxury car is quickly offset by having those high payments!
And QUIETNESS. Are there other hearing aid-wearing people out there who can suggest something? I want to drive this car for 10-12 years.
I am also open to used cars.
thanks!
Vicki
'24 Chevy Blazer EV 2LT
And QUIETNESS. Are there other hearing aid-wearing people out there who can suggest something? I want to drive this car for 10-12 years.
I am also open to used cars.
Staying "around" 20k (up to?
Maybe a used Buick LaCrosse or Lucerne - not sure what can be had for 20k. Or a new Ford 500/Taurus?