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At this point, if there IS engine damage, I seriously doubt that Audi will be willing to foot the bill because the owner didn't check his/her oil.
Best Regards,
Shipo
However, this has nothing to do with the shifting issues I have described since they have been occuring since I bought the car with increasing regularity. Can anyone please comment about the DSG issues?
"Third, and sort of a side note, I only had 12,000 miles on the car, it had been to it's routine service and I had the oil light go on saying I was very low on oil."
"Routine service" for your engine oil is at the 5,000 mark and then again at the 15,000 mile mark. The implicaiton here is that you went 7,000 miles on the oil after your "routine service".
Then you said:
"And, even though 2,000 miles after an oil change shouldn't have meant the car would burn 4 quarts of oil. I can see topping it off every once in awhile but not burning through the whole lot of it in 2,000 miles."
Are you sure? BTW, you originally claimed that your car was down two quarts, now you are saying four quarts. Ummm, I'm confused again.
Regarding your BMW, the I6 in your old car had a seven quart oil capacity, your A3 isn't even five (IIRC), and as such is going to be MUCH more intolerant of being down a quart.
Best Regards,
Shipo
Wrt Oil, VW and Audis burn more than most and need frequent changes. Turbos only make it worse, and it's good idea to use best synthetic you can with these.
But then yesterday, my lil automatic A3 decided to trade in the Dr. Jekyll personality for Mr. Hyde. While accelerating up a 6% grade hill at 75 mph, I completely lost power. The display showed the gearbox was spinning its wheels in neutral while seemingly randomly picking out gears that nearly stalled or redlined. What followed was a terrifying 30 seconds of jerking, whining, revving, slowing down and speeding up, and feeling like my car was about to not only completely stop on the freeway, but then start to roll backwards into an approaching semi. Eventually I got it to a safe place to pull off and it reverted to its domesticated persona, shifting as normal. After feeling slightly idiotic waiting for a tow truck to pick up a sub1K car that appeared to running just fine, I got back on the highway, this time downhill and cruised home without problem.
Talking with the dealership on the phone on the ride home they wouldn't concede it could possibly be a tranny problem and instead blamed the occurance on ineffective gas intack due to low gas (1/4 full) which resulted in "sputtering." Taking the car in tomorrow and see what they have to say. Hope to god i don't have a lemon. At less than 1000 miles if they need to replace the transimission i think i'm gonna demand a replacement car, i don't wanna drop 30+G for a frankenstien jalopy. Anybody had similar trouble with an 07 or have heard of won cases over A3 transmission with regards to lemon laws?
From reading this forum tonight and my own experience, all i can say is that the Auto DSG Transmission is a true idiot savant! Most the time it performs amazing feats but sometimes you're gonna have a psychotic on your hands.
I've seen computerized cars temporarily shut off turn signals, power steering and other items due to such interference.
Unfortunately, Euro cars (per some mechanic articles I've read) tend not as well shielded as USA and Japanese designs. It's one reason why Mercedes and others have relatively bad reliability records.
FYI, I have never heard of any car "sputtering" on a 1/4 tank of gas unless it was being driven insanely hard, usually on a race track. Is that what Audi dealers truly believe their owners are doing?
Hopefully you'll get a satisfactory answer and help from your Audi dealership next time the glitches happen.
The following week I went to the dealer for the 8000km check up and told them about my experience.They never found anything.Two weeks after this check up my transmission started acting up....up and down 1st to 2nd and so on...at stop signs it would jerk,at one point I had to put it into neutral because I thought the car would stall.I took it in and the dealer had the car in for over one month and changed the transmission control module.
One week later,I stopped to put some gas in and when I returned to my car,I would not start.I had to get it towed to the nearest Audi dealer.They said the problem this time was that the computer was on ''safety shut down'',probably caused by a power surge.
Anybody else having these experiences??
http://www.audizine.com/forum/
When putting in park, the car still settles for about 8 inches before locking.
When going from park to reverse, the transmission doesn't catch into gear and car really goes forward?
then begins m saga. after leaving the dealership, i notice a noise coming from the front left area of the car when i make left turns, accelerate from a stop and reverse turning my wheel to the right. now its been six months, 34 days in service, 5 testdrives with techs, 3 different parts replaced, 5 repairs, and they still dont know what the noise is. its mainly in the sport or manual mode, very jerky from a stop start, noisy, and clunk feel inthe steering and steering wheel.it's getting worse.
my feeling is it all has to do with the DSG transmission. i love how it works WHEN IT WORKS, but its been a nightmare and it doesnt feel safe, especially comuting a steep windy road as i do 4 to 5 times a week.
I will never buy another audi again, should have purchased a BMW.
How's the Audi warrantee service? How have you been treated? Have you been to more than one dealer for warrantee help?
Thanks!
Took it in to the dealer, they could replicate the problem but could not figure out how to fix it. Took it home, figuring "I could live with it" (dealer couldn't even give me an estimate of how much it would cost to fix).
Now in addition to the lurch/hard shift into/from 1st gear, I have a "transmission whine" at anything above 30 mph. I'm taking it in again, but it is extremely frustrating. Hopefully this time they'll be able to fix it!
Did you ever find out what was causing this problem? I am seriously considering getting rid of my car and getting something else (a non-Audi product).
I also have an audi 08, A3 and have the exact same problem where my car lunges forward about 8 inches when put in park. I even have to control it with the handbrake to reverse into my drive when every other automatic car I've had before simply reverses in fine.
I asked the service dept at my local dealership about it and they said that this is common with gearboxes which have paddle controls behind the steering wheel??? I previously owned an audi A4 cabriolet and this was the same but nowhere near as bad as the A3. Various people have driven the car and all said the same that I should take it back to the dealer but I just get the same answer that there's nothing wrong with it. My last A4 I took in for them to check and they said they had altered the transmission slightly which was complete rubbish as it was exactly the same. I am changing my car next year and there's no way I would get another Audi simply due to the gearbox issues!
Best regards,
Shipo
I have to take it to the dealer, but I know what they will say "We can't find anything", but I will waste my time anyways.
We had a lot of issues with a Jim Ellis audi in Marietta Ga, and now we are dealing with Nalley Roswell, they are much better, but unfortunately having 2 audis can be a pain, specially when they are due for service one after the other, since we bought then a couple weeks apart.
Nice car!!! still in love with it and I can't picture myself trading it in, but I know eventually I will for the cost of keeping running.
I hope my comments can guide someone or can get me answers.
Sam :P
But a couple of things the DSG technically is a manual transmission internally so the rolling when in park like a manual is actually normal. Even with traditional automatic cars it is good habit to always use the parking brake rather then use the transmission to support the weight of the car, but its more obvious in a DSG equipped car as it really is a manual trans internally. Same for the comment that it takes off like a 5 speed, thats probably right cause the car is operating clutches like you normally would just you don't see it or have to do it. And it is more apparent at low speeds cause like a manual low speed maneuvering requires more work clutch pedal wise then just cruising along and going through the gears. I wish sales people would take more time and explain the difference from a DSG and a traditional automatic car, it's confusing because they look the same for everyone but are night and day internally.
I like it more than the R8's R-Tronic, and more than any CVT by 100X.
I haven't driven the 7 speed DSG in the new S4, but I bet it's the best yet. (yes, I was lucky enough to get a chance to drive the R8 with Rtronic.)
However, I've been experiencing similar transmission quirkiness you all have been explaining in here for a year now... ...and yesterday (for the second time now in 6 months) I brought it in to the dealer to be looked at. Yet unfortunately I got a similar response many of you have received...basically I'm told I'm experiencing characteristics of the transmission.
I'm not trying to find something wrong with my car. The transmission seems to lurch, skip, and/or slip like you all have experienced. The occurences can be felt at a stop or when I begin to accelerate from one. And they seem to persist more in heavy traffic or when I back up my slightly inclined driveway.
I like my dealer too, but I cannot shake the feeling of doubt I have about what is or isn't going on. And you would at least think they might acknowledge that, although there may have been some problems with the DSG transmission in the past that we are aware of, this is not the case with my car right now. You'd think a bell would go off or something, but they don't seem to act or respond as though there has been a problem in the past.
Maybe the fact that I have noticed this issue for a year now, and nothing serious has happend, is proof that this is just how the DSG acts. Maybe it's getting worse and something will happen in the future, like when my warranty expires. I just hope nothing happens while I'm on an upcoming long road trip with my family (over 2K miles).
For now I will hope for the best, and know that I'm in good company!
I was skimming through all the replies trying to find a solution for my transmission DSG jerking issue in my 2008 Audi A3, actually been having this issue for 1.5 yrs now roughly a couple of months after buying it brand new. I believe my odometer is at 33k now, but I notice the jerking issue back when it was around 10k. At first i didnt think too much about it until it started to happen more often. However, everytime i bought it to the dealer they claim it was a "ghost issue" and could not replicate the problem.
Luckily for me earlier this year Audi Corporate sent me a letter saying that enough owners had complained about it and they went ahead and extended my transmission warranty to 10yrs or 100k miles, whichever comes first. In addtion, they stated they would fix this issue sometime around June-July 2010 when they got enough parts. In their words they said it was a bushing inside the mechatronic unit has the potential to wear out prematurely.
Similar to your responses my problem only happens after a long drive for about 40 mins when my car engine is hot, then the issue happens when i'm accelerating from a complete stop and also when i'm coming to a slow stop.
Well, to cut this short as of today my Audi is at the dealership having this and other issues fixed. They seem to be well aware of this issue now along with some other ones. So if you guys own a 2007-2009 model with the DSG transmission give your dealer a call. Good luck!
oh ya, the other known issues is the center glove box has a plastic locking handle that tends to break off, i guess because of cheap plastic. Also, there is a stripe on the roof of the driver side that tends to pop out. I cant really discribe it, but for those of you that have these issues you know what i'm talking about.
Yes I solved the issue by selling the car!!! I recently went on a long journey and pulled up at lights whilst the car was in drive - the lights were on a hill and my car started rolling back! The gear box lurching just kept getting worse whether it was a long or short journey and then the key would not remove from the ignition - I explained to my dealer that it seemed as if it was another gearbox issue as the car obvioulsy was not recognising that the car was in park however after two hours of looking they told me there was no fault and that I was turning my car off too quickly - can you believe that! By this time I had just had enough of the car and sold it - my new automatic just pulls away from the drive without having to use the handbrake to stop it lurching forward - most dealers did not seem to want to know of any problems so I would recommend taking the other guys reply in with you and maybe writing to Audi head office to see if you get more joy - Good luck!
Regards.
While on my road trip this summer, got a call from my Audi dealer to tell me there was a recall that included my A3 which (possibly) dealt with the transmission related issues I have been experiencing. Upon returning from my trip a couple of weeks ago, I brought the car in to have the work taken care of (free of charge), which involved something that controls the shifting of the gears in the transmission.
I haven't had a chance to educate myself about it yet, but what I understand they did was replace the "Megatronic" unit (?).
Like I said, I don't know anything about this (yet), but I immediately noticed a COMPLETE difference to the transmission's behavior upon picking up the vehicle and driving it off the lot.
It's been a couple of weeks now, and I can honestly say that I have not (yet?) felt any of the problems I was experiencing in the past like I have explained at stops, in traffic, or even backing up my driveway. The car, specifically the transmission, handles just the way I'd expect it should, especially with the feel of a manual transmission's characteristics.
The only thing I find odd, and I'm not trying to come down hard on anybody, is that the car reacts COMPLETELY and NOTICEABLY different than it did at any time in the past. So it leaves me wondering about the motives behind those who test drove the car were really feeling. I mean, to constantly suggest that the car was always handling as it should before is preposterous at this point. The difference now is clear as day...crystal clear.
Don't get me wrong, I am elated and grateful for how the dealer and Audi finally came through for me, how my service manager delved into this manner to get to the bottom of it, and to anyone else over there who was involved in resolving this matter. And I look forward to my dealer's continued involvement with it's customers in this manner.
Oh yeah, I also hope this problem doesn't ressurect itself in the future like it has for some of you. May you find relief at some point.
Been having a problem with my 54 plate A3 2.TDI.
Particularly when hot, I really have to push hard to get into 1st gear when stationary. Same with Reverse. Once in, its wanting to pull very slightly, even with clutch fully down. Its also hard to pull it out of gear, but if I raise the Revs to around 2000, it takes the pressure off and theres no resistance. Theres no problem when its moving - only when stationary. Does anyone have any suggestions? Many thanks. Adrian
have you ever accidentally over-revved this car by shifting into too low a gear (downshifting and accidentally picking say 2 instead of 4?)
The clutch is self-adjusting so no remedy there.
I guess I'd check the fluid and then have the clutch system bled and see how that goes. If it's still doing it, it may be clutch time down the line a bit.
Audi notified me January 2010 and again in September 2010 to book an appointment with a no-charge loaner car included.
You an also call 1-800-253-2834 to inquire, ref 35B1/J8
Hope that this helps someone.
06 Audi A3, purchased about 3 years ago. Had 60k or so miles, now it has 97k. I started getting the flashing PRNDS or limp mode or whatever you call it right away. At first it would only do it once every month or two. Then it started getting much more frequent. One day it happened about 20x. When it would happen I would take it to neutral, turn the car off, then start it back up, and put it back in drive, all this while rolling down the road. Not the safest but a lot less hassle than pulling off the road each time. I also found it did it much less often in Sport mode.
I took it to the dealership, but Audi refused to pay for any part of it, so I didn't even let them open it up. Read the forums and thought maybe the A182/A509 sensor might fix it. Had my mechanic replace it for about $700 just a week ago. Now it's worse. I think I'll have him try the mechatronics unit next.
I can't wait until I can get it fixed and then sell it. I will fully disclose the repairs, and it's very possible it may go another 100k until it fails again.
I loved my 2000 Passat which now has 230k miles, and I like a lot of things on this A3. However since Audi will not stand behind this problem I will refuse to ever purchase a VW or Audi again. I will have my fun on my Hayabusa, and get some reliable car like a Corolla. I hope my story influences others to do the same (at least the reliable car part).