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2008 Cadillac CTS



  • puckspucks Posts: 47
    First clue. FE1 only comes with 17 inch wheels.

    FE2 and FE3 both come with 18 inch wheels.

    Look for description on the option list

    All Season 18 inch tires/wheels is FE2

    Summer 18 inch tiere/wheels means FE3

    My guess - you won't see too many FE3. Very firm ride, real sporty. Most 18's will be FE2.
  • paopao Posts: 1,867
    many cars today are going the way of the green stuff and pump vs the full spare or the donut...saves space, weight and costs these days....not sure that a 40-50k car should.....but many are to include the its just not the CTS....what happens if you have a blowout.......roadside assistance is the only option....provided by GM or AAA....pick you poison...
  • Hi,

    I know the lack of Bluetooth in the CTS is a source of frustration for some. I just read about the "Venturi" device that looks like a fairly clean and easy solution to the problem in the short run.

    The Venturi Mini is a new and unique product combining Bluetooth® Music streaming with Hands-Free calling and USB style charging. The integrated FM RDS Transmitter streams stereo audio through the in-car sound system for music playback and hands-free. The Venturi Mini requires ZERO INSTALL and simply connects to the cigarette lighter socket in the vehicle making it easily transportable. The integrated OLED display and high performance microphone enables high quality crystal clear hands-free with the received audio coming through the in car speakers.

  • arby1arby1 Posts: 83
    I thought that a "limp home " mode limits your speed so that you cannot go above a certain speed . He was driving 40 MPH .
  • paopao Posts: 1,867
    the one thing that isnt clear in the install whether or not the preset FM Freq has to always be on the stereo in order for the system to work.....If I have to have to have it constantly preset to one particular FM freq, then I loose all my other playback options.....this is a major drawback..

    it doesnt state for an example if you have the system working...and you get an inbound call..does it automatically go to the preset freq in order for it to play throught the car sound quess is it doesnt and that requires you to manually tune to that freq.....
  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,953
    "I thought that a "limp home " mode limits your speed so that you cannot go above a certain speed . He was driving 40 MPH . "

    There may be other limits, including a MPH limit, when in this "limp home" mode - but I ran my Corvette at up to just over 50 on my trip to the dealer - in 3rd gear.

    I believe that the TCC may not lock in this mode either, for example...
    2016 BMW 340i
  • thebugthebug Posts: 294
    Took the CTS on a mountainous test drive today. WOW!!! I really don't have time to take the normal 19/20 state test run yet, (it's winter) so I took a short 150 mile or so run through the twisty turny mountains on I-15 and what a treat. If you are familiar with the climb from Dry Lake (just after the Nevada state line) to Baker Ca, then you'll know it's a pretty good long climb.

    The 304HP DI is quite impressive. Was able to hit and hold 95+ with room to spare only requiring a shift to fifth gear once or twice, and this was mostly to slow down until I could find an opening to pass. Blew the doors off of a couple of BMW's , 3's and 5's, and yes as I passed them I said to myself, "yes Mr. BMW that was a CTS that just blew by with relative ease".

    One could easily tell that they were on the struggle because they were in the fast lane blocking the view. Left them far back in the rear view for the entire climb. One 3 series convertible tried to hang, but he fell off long before we even got to the steepest part of the climb. I am seriously impressed (not surprised) with the performance of this car. Can't wait unit spring for my multi state run.

  • bingomanbingoman Posts: 373
    I know that hill very well. The problem is not so much that those cars can't keep up as it is that their drivers don't have the intelligence or courtesy to keep to the right and out of the way of faster drivers.
  • thebugthebug Posts: 294
    bingoman - You are absolutely right. More often than not, you have to pass on the right because those on the left don't realize that they need to change to a lower gear to pull the hill at speed. Thank God for the (third) truck lane, otherwise it would be an all day trip up the grade. Next week I want to do the Virgin River Gorge (weather/holiday traffic permitting) which is the small (15 mile) stretch of I-15 that cuts across the northwest corner of Arizona. It is the ultimate roller coaster for cars, 15 miles of steep downhill twisty turny (with awesome banks) interstate. The 03 CTS was able to take it at 110MPH once ( with no traffic in the gorge of course ) flawlessly.

  • That reminds me of the trip I took with my wife to Napa, CA this past Memorial Day. There is a great 7 mile stretch of road on the north end leading out of the valley toward other parts of northern Cali. It's all hairpin curves, straight uphill. My wife and I had rented an '07 CTS for the trip and we had some time to kill before dinner. The great thing about the CTS was that not only was it a sporty rental car, but it was a car I had once owned and knew intimately what it could do under stress. Needless to say my wife in the passenger seat spent all of that drive going and coming back hanging on for dear life. :-)
  • bingomanbingoman Posts: 373
    Bug - are they still working on I-15 between the border and Los Vegas? I'll be going from LA to Vegas on tuesday to spend Thanksgiving and my birthday with my daughter's family.

    On your little trip did you go into Baker or did you turn around at the top of the hill?
    There are a bunch of new restaurants in Baker. The Bun Boy was bought out by the Big Boy chain and they ruined it. Fortunately the other new restaurants make up for it. I usually stop there for lunch on the way to Vegas, and sometimes get an early start and stop for breakfast on the way back.
  • bingomanbingoman Posts: 373
    In case any of the powers that be at Cadillac are reading these posts I would like to present the following list of features I would like to see added to the '09 CTS:

    1. A locking gas door.
    2. A backup camera integrated with the nav screen.
    3. Adaptive cruise control.
    4. A single button to close all windows and the sunroof when locking the car.
    5. A button to override the automatic headlight function delay to be able to immediately turn on the lights when entering a garage or tunnel, and turn off the lights when exiting so the navigation screen becomes visible.
    6. A lockable trunk that the valet cannot get into (lock the fold down back seat and disconnect the trunk release button.)
    7. A more opaque sunroof screen (shade), or electrochromic darkening.
    8. A hybrid engine.
    9. A system volt meter.
  • I agree with 1, 2, 5, 6, 7 and 9. But I'd add:

    10. A grab handle over the front passenger door.
    11. Magnetic ride control
    12. High-definition radio
    13. Floor mat grommets to match the cashmere interior (i.e., not black)
    14, A delete option for the wood steering wheel so you can get just the wood shifter.
  • bingomanbingoman Posts: 373
    I would also like power folding outside mirrors.
  • thebugthebug Posts: 294
    bingoman - The three lane expansion is finished all the way up to the first Las Vegas exit (MM#27) where they are still working on the overpass. It's about a half mile maybe less of construction (two lanes NB three lanes SB) and it's not so bad.
    The SB expansion has been finished for a while, but there's still a barrel or two sitting out.

    I actually stopped at Bob's Big Boy for lunch, it was that bad, but I'm a GI so you can't trust my judgment of taste when it comes to food. I think everything is good if I don't have to cook it. That being said, if I think it's bad, then it's really bad. If you drive on Tuesday you might beat the worst of the holiday traffic.

  • thebugthebug Posts: 294
    sevenfeet0 - The twisty turnys are always the best part of the road trip. I'm going to play around in the big states on the West Coast this spring (or early summer if it's still snowing) on my road trip with California being first. Do you remember the number or name of the highway you were on?

  • bingomanbingoman Posts: 373
    Bug - thanks for the info. I never go up on Friday of come back on Sunday.

    If you are looking for twisty's on a freeway you might try California 14 from Palmdale down to the San Fernando valley. It's about 30 miles of curves downhill all the way.
  • mdchachimdchachi Posts: 275
    Since there is no interface to the car, I'm sure you're right. You'd have to change to the preset frequency when you want to use the handsfree system. Maybe not too bad if you use a radio station preset and practice a few times.

    I've heard that the FM frequency is so crowded in some places (such as Southern California) that it's almost impossible to find a free frequency, especially if you're traveling from one city to another.

    My other concern would be the microphone. Down there by one's knee is probably not the optimal location.

    Still, it looks pretty cool for what it does, especially at that price point.
  • You're looking for the Lake County Highway heading north off of Hwy 29 whic is the main road leading through the Napa wineries. Paste the following coordinates into Google Earth to find where I'm talking about. Make sure you ask Google Earth to highlight the highway so you can see it through the trees. Do these curves look interesting? :)

    38°38'57.05"N 122°35'30.44"W
  • What is "costco discount"? I never heard of this.

  • I hope the dealer "honors" my deal!

    When was the last time a cadillac was named a car of the year?
  • thebugthebug Posts: 294
    leslie12 - Costco has a program (if your a member) that allows a discount of the going rate for a given vehicle. The amount varies, but the discount is usually pretty good. You can go to a Costco become a member ($50), call them and let them know what type of car you are buying, and they will assign you a rep at a dealer in your local area to complete the purchase. The best thing is, there is no pricing hassles, it's pretty straight forward.

    Costco will explain the entire process prior to your purchase. Think the going rate for the 08 CTS is 2K over invoice plus any other discount that you are authorized, ie; GM, dealer rebates etc. The CTS is a hot item so it's a good way to go. I bought two cars at the same time, (different dealers) and saved at least 5K on the purchases overall. The 07's on the lots had the biggest discounts. Some had as much as 4K under invoice, but they were only equipped with the basics.

  • Thanks for the info. I am a costco member. I just never knew or took seriously some of the discounts as such that they offered. I will go there to shop, but I guess I need to investigate the other "pluses" to membership.

    Thanks again.
  • bingomanbingoman Posts: 373
    Motor Trend magazine just announced the CTS as their Car of the Year. read about it at:
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 4,141
    Just for grins:

    2008 Cadillac CTS
    2007 Toyota Camry
    2006 Honda Civic
    2005 Chrysler 300C
    2004 Toyota Prius
    2003 Infiniti G35
    2002 Ford Thunderbird
    2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser
    2000 Lincoln LS
    1999 Chrysler 300M
    1998 Chevrolet Corvette
    1997 Chevrolet Malibu
    1996 Dodge Caravan
    1995 Chrysler Cirrus
    1994 Ford Mustang
    1993 Ford Probe GT
    1992 Cadillac Seville Touring Sedan
    1991 Chevrolet Caprice Classic LTZ
    1990 Lincoln Town Car
    1989 Ford Thunderbird SC
    1988 Pontiac Grand Prix
    1987 Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
    1986 Ford Taurus LX
    1985 Volkswagen GTI (eligible due to it being built in VW's now-defunct Pennsylvania plant)
    1984 Chevrolet Corvette
    1983 AMC / Renault Alliance
    1982 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
    1981 Chrysler K Cars, Dodge Aries / Plymouth Reliant
    1980 Chevrolet Citation
    1979 Buick Riviera S
    1978 Chrysler, Dodge Omni / Plymouth Horizon
    1977 Chevrolet Caprice
    1976 Chrysler, Dodge Aspen / Plymouth Volare
    1975 Chevrolet Monza 2+2
    1974 Ford Mustang II
    1973 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
    1972 Citroën SM (An imported vehicle that was selected overall "Car of the Year")
    1971 Chevrolet Vega
    1970 Ford Torino
    1969 Plymouth Road Runner
    1968 Pontiac GTO
    1967 Mercury Cougar
    1966 Oldsmobile Toronado
    1965 Pontiac Motor Division
    1964 Ford Motor Company (Not for the Mustang)
    1963 American MotorsRambler
    1962 Buick Special
    1961 Pontiac Tempest
    1960 Chevrolet Corvair
    1959 Pontiac Motor Division
    1958 Ford Thunderbird
    1957 Chrysler Corporation
    1956 Ford Motor Company
    1955 Chevrolet Motor Division
    1954 No award
    1953 No award
    1952 Cadillac Motor Division
    1951 Chrysler Corporation
    1950 No award
    1949 Cadillac Motor Division

    I think my two favorites are the Alliance & the Vega, though the Corvair is interesting as well.
  • adamg2adamg2 Posts: 12
    Anyone else feel particularly gratified for ordering this car before the Car of the Year Award? The article and associated video on the Motor Trend website are the highest praise for the 08 CTS I've come across thus far.
  • thebugthebug Posts: 294
    adamg2 - Absolutely!!!

  • The list of old winners is an interesting lesson in how the COTY award is sometimes for an important vehicle as opposed to an important and GOOD vehicle. The Chrysler K cars were complete crap but they were cheap in bad financial times for the country and saved Chrysler from going under. The Chevy Vega had great technology on paper that wasn't durable 5 miles off the dealer lot. And the Corvair was like Porsches and VWs of the day...a really different...and bad idea (rear engine). The difference was the execution of the application. VW and Porsche generally did it well...GM did it poorly.

    I think in recent years MT has tried to raise the bar for the selection process and try to select a car that will stand the test of time. Not all do, but the recent decade has the Vette, the Camry, Prius and 300C. Only the Thunderbird falls short of the other cars in that era.

    My votes for worst cars of the COTY historical list:
    1971 Chevy Vega (again, who knew it would be so unreliable at the time?)
    1974 Mustang II (truthfully, few cars of that era were any good)
    1975 Chevy Monza (a small hatchback that weighed about as much as a Caddy Fleetwood...a friend of mine in high school had one)
    1976 Plymouth Volare (where do I start with this turkey)
    1980 Chevy Citation (my first car as a teenager. Underpowered and overweight, the car's torque steer was so bad that the whole front end shook at 70 MPH)
    1983 Renault Alliance (the "Appliance" was almost as breakdown prone as the K-cars)
    1987 Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe (another overweight turkey)
  • golfnut5golfnut5 Posts: 202
    Good observations. Think where we would be without competition for the Japanese. Scary to think about it.
  • SevenFoot 0,

    Any rememberances as to how awful the following vehicles are that you omitted?

    I've been around long enough to remember a lot of the list (born class of '63)

    1992 Cadillac Seville Touring Sedan
    1991 Chevrolet Caprice Classic LTZ
    1990 Lincoln Town Car
    1989 Ford Thunderbird SC

    These omissions from your list were simply bad.

    Too heavy. No fun. Bad resale.

    I've a feeling that we've re-entered a "golden age" of vehicles. Look back to what was happening in the 60s...Great designs, great performance...and what's happening again now. Instead of each manufacturer trying to look like a global designer, we have each designer looking like a nationalist. Why does the CTS or 300C look "American", or the Camry/Civic look "Japanese" or the bizarre 3 series look "German"?

    It's the nationalist trends that have given us the sharpest designs.

    Viva Le Difference!!
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