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Jaguar XJ Transmission Questions
Mr_Shiftright
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If you've had any difficulty with the transmision in your XJ series car, please tell us about it.
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Good luck.
So clean the drains out and that might help you.
I have a 2000 XJR which I bought in 2001. To tell the truth, it has been an excellent car. However, last month, the transmission just started to disengage for no reason. I had a few other error messages crop up (a rear wheel sensor was going at the same time, which disables traction control and ASC). I have twice now gotten an incorrect gear ratio error that lets me limp home; when the car is restarted, no problem.
It is QUITE a problem when you go to accelerate on the highway and the engine just revs. Flipping to a different gear, or in and our of neutral, does nothing. Not even an error message most of the time. When the car slows down to 30 MPH, it re-engages with grace and ease - not a slam jerk or anything like that.
So far, the Jag dealer tried to sell me bushings and shocks (don't car if the transmission doesn't engage), AAMCO says the mechanicals are OK, and I'm out $1500 of various 'repairs'. The ECM has thrown a transmission error (incorrect gear ration), but the TCM doesn't have that error. Seems like I have an electrical problem somewhere, but WHERE!!!
Any ideas?
Regards,
Louis
I'm having problems locating the area to check the transmission oil.
http://www.zf-group.com/pdf/5HP19FL.pdf
Good luck....
TWO problems had to be corrected:
1. My transmission really did have a mechanical problem and a rebuild fixed the internal hydraulic issues. Cottman Transmissions did this for 60% of the price that AAMCO quoted.
2. The transmission "neutralization" problem had to do with the ABS system. The ABS sensor and harness to the left rear tire were bad and needed to be replaced. However, this didn't correct the problem. A bearing was loose on the same tire, and tighten that finally fixed the problem.
What REALLY irritates me is that after the transmission was rebuilt, and after the local Jag dealer replaced the rear wheel ABS hardware, they DIDN'T tighten the bearing - resulting in the persistent neutralization and their stated desire to spend $13K of my money to put in a factory rebuilt transmission. Cottman Trany tightened the bearing saving me that experience. Somebody over at the Jag dealership must have slipped and passed on the info to Cottman.
So, in summary, SHAME ON JAGUAR and their dealers!!!!
There is NO excuse for a transmission to give out at 84,000 miles unless you are in nascar. I love my car, but this is the last Jaguar I buy.
Regards,
Louis
After the gearbox light came on it didn't want to go into gear.
The gearbox fault is an internal mechanical issue, and you may need a transmission rebuild
I, too, had the occasional issue of the transmission not wanting to shift out of part and into gear, and turning my Jag off and restarting it seemed to work. However, it wasn't related to the gearbox fault light coming on. This problem has gone away, too, with the transmission rebuild.
Hope this info helps.
I have a 1990 xj6 that is cherry but,I may have to junk her because of this problem with the transmission.
I cannot fatham a transmission going out at 105 thousand miles when old people drive it all the time.
Does this ring a bell With anyone?
So what is my option?
Thanks
Glenn
You are partly right.
BUT i plan on selling it to the wrecking yard as a parts car.
Too bad because it is a fine car. BUT jaguar has screwed a lot of people. With a bad transmission.
NOW researching putting in a different transmission.
Will let everyone know what i find, I own body shops! so i know a lot of people.
100K is not great longevity for an automatic transmission but it's not premature either. The world's best warranties from the world's best cars don't offer more than 100K, so if Rolls Royce or Toyota or Mercedes apparently doesn't think a transmission should go over 100K, i don't see why Jaguar owners could hope for more. One might expect 150K but more often than not, it doesn't turn out that way for most car owners.
Options? Spend some $$$ on a diagnosis and make your final decision based on that. There is a complete diagnostic step by step for this transmission available to any competent shop.
Either e-mail NHTSA Hotline@telesishq.com or call 1-888-327-4236.
They will take your complaint seriously.
If they have enough complaints, they will open an investigation and determine if a recall should be done.
Sept 30,2008 my 1998 XJ8 started balking and the transmission fault light came on.The car did not want to move forward, but very slowly. in several miles, there was a loud thuuump.The car did not want to accelerate. I had the car carried home on a flat bed truck.
I googled transmission fault Jaguar and came across several sites with a multitude of complaints from Jag owners about failed transmissions.
I called Jag Corporate and they claim not to have any complaints about transmission fault problems. Jaguar stated that the owners of the vehicles with transmission fault problems probably do not service their cars. I stated that is simply untrue, that you cannot say that all the Jaguars that have transmisison problems have owners that do not take care of their vehicles.
I reminded him that I had called Jaguar and complained about 3 years ago that my Jaguar would suddenly lose power on the interstate and I was fortunate that I was not killed.It happened about 6-8 times and Jaguar told me that they had no other complaints about the issue. Well, here we are almost 3 years later and 6 months ago they issued a recall for the Throttle Operation which in "EXCEPTIONAL CIRCUMSTANCES" could cause the car to lose power.
I filed a complaint online with consumer.com and the NHTSA.
NHSTA recorded the information today with a case number and will have an investigator review it within the next 48 hours.
I called a transmission shop and was told that the drum breaks and the metal gets into the transmission and that it is a common problem for Jags.
SO IF YOU OR ANYONE THAT YOU KNOW HAS HAD TRANSMISSION PROBLEMS, I URGE YOU TO IMMEDIATELY FILE A COMPLAINT.
Good luck . Cin2
Joeyxjr
Glaze 1 Jackson,Ms.
Where did you read that other post? I would like to go there sometime. Your post here gives me the idea that i have one or more bad ABS sensors, considering i replaced all mechanicals on brakes and the brake fault light still comes on. Could be the mechanic that replaced brakes caused the ABS sensor problem, who knows?
Next step is to find a great tech and see about ABS function and replace all of the sensors if necessary. Then on to my tranny "slamming" in every shift point problem. thanks for the start in a direction wojcik! any other help is certainly appreciated.
OME_OMY ...Don
Here is one thing i did after putting 3 new expensive batteries in within months. I suspected that what was draining the electricity from the new powerful batteries so fast, was what is called "parasitic drain". This can be from more than one source, but i suspected the security system. I found out that it is not advisable to disable the security system, so i installed a "master switch" just under the battery. Expensive, yes, but the battery drain and replacements stopped now for over a year. That heavy duty switch becomes an excellent "security system" in itself. This is only one example of the problems to be uncovered and fixed with this 94 XJ6. Like so many Jaguar owners, i keep putting the time and money into her because i love that car. I wish someone on this CarSpace forum would tell me of their great mechanic/tech. I would call and drive there immediately with my exotic problems. (not so exotic with Jaguars, i have come to believe). Oh and i got the electrical service man that put in my new alternator (Mikes Alternator Shop), put that special "master switch" in. Hard to find these people to help. Good Luck with the 93. OME_OMY Don
I will travel long distance to any southern states particularly to find such a tech and service facility. Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Tennessee, Missouri, Arkansas for example. Do YOU know one? :surprise:
we have almost the same problem. i have had this intermittent problem for a long time, over a year. let's talk more.
i have a 94 XJ6. mine is in great shape otherwise. the trans light comes on, mine starts out from the beginning with shift point "slamming" and snaps my neck, and could be causing trans damage. when it happens, i then stop, turn the ignition off, start it up again, and all is fine again for quite a while. i have not had anything done by anyone. i see by other posts here that there may be a connection with my ABS brake light coming on, i am going to investigate the possibility of bad ABS sensors on one or more wheels, replace them if necessary, and investigate perhaps a bad ABS sensor wire, and go that direction first. Then see if that stops the intermittent craziness of the trans light coming on with the slamming problem.
2000 Jaguar xj8 4.0
Already Tried:
well it made a clunk noise when it was down shifting to 2 gear it made that noise a few times then when i came to a complete stop and then go forward it felt like it just slip and the light came on Transmission fault so i shifted to 3 gear and it did move slow but it it took a few seconds to get up to speed there is no noise coming from the tranny
thanks
Had to also get a gear box too, as after new trans. was put in, mech. noticed the shifter didn't really fall into each gear nice and tight. I had noticed that too. Finally, the bill with oil change was over 6,000. A big decision to do it, but as soon as I drove the car, it was wonderful. Big difference. I bought the car used last June for a great deal. $9000. with 64,000 miles on it. Don't wait forever to get a tuneup, and when they do, ask to have the timing chains checked and compression. When ever timing chains are repaired, or changed, get a new water pump. Anytime after 70,000 miles is a good time to start thinking about timing chains. Not cheap, but very serious. Ask if any leaks around valve covers. My ABS sensor also comes on, telling me I don't have traction control...comes on when it feels like it. Brakes are ok. How's your car running at idle? Feel just a little like it's gonna need at least one plug changed pretty soon? Mine seems to feel like that. Maybe it's in need of an air filter, and a carb cleaning, or adjustment, and not just plugs. Change your oil a lot, as it will cut down risk of clogging your screen...also, lift the lid, and on the drivers side, take a look at any rubber hoses on the left to see if they are starting to crack. One inch thick hose.....I love my car....silver with just a touch of red in it, and black interior with the wood. It never ceases to please me. san francisco is a great town for jag service.
Thanks in advance for your help.
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Hope you got a decent 10 grand or so price for the car, as I bet you will need to spend about another 5 - 6 grand in the next two weeks.
What atf can use besides the expensive dealer fluid? How much does it take?
What is the name and number of the South SF tranny place? I live in Santa cruz..
All help is greatly appreciated?
Thanks,
Huve
THis year I replaced my transmission, the shifting assembly, also the coupler from the engine to the trans. GET this the new coupler lasted 30 days...I started feeling a roughness at certain higher speeds....I knew something was wrong..didn't wait, and a new coupler was put in for free, as I got a warranty for a year for all the stuff.
So, check your trans...linkage, engine...now...
the fluids (almost 60,000 miles) what we found out fluid was
greenish (from what I understand this this is the expensive
stuff) but it had a bronze residue to it. The magnets had
metal shavings to it (which is expected) but the bronze
large deposits in the pan are a sign of thrust washers
(according to my mechanic).
Soooo now for a course of action:
1. Getting prices from bay area jag places for rebuilt
tranny (trading my in as a core)
2. Bringing in my tranny and have mine rebuilt
As I see it I need to find out cost and LENGTH OF WARRANTY.
My mechanic will charge me about $400 (6 to 8 hours) of
labor for removing and replacing it once it is rebuilt. He
replaced head gaskets on my '95 xj6 (for about $600) and it
is running great.
One of the quotes we're getting tomorrow is from my mechanic
that services the other family cars who works for AAMCO.
They have a lifetime warranty (also 90 days, 36 months,
etc). So the big question is how much this lifetime warranty
will cost, how much a 36 month will cost compared to shop
that specialize on jags (mercedes, bmws, etc) warranty and
cost.
The jag dealer wants $7,500.
I would like to hear everyones idea on the above.
I'll get back to you when the quotes come.
This is a big set back but when I'm on the open road with
this baby ('02 VDP)...no comparison to any other car!
Car has 99,000 miles, has been serviced always, but lately, and not always, the car will have a delayed shift as if it was going up a hill. It is better when the engine and transmission is warmed up, but still happens some time.
My mechanic cleared the codes, and it was better for a while, but it happening again.
Any thoughts?