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2007 Honda Odyssey
Just did start looking into a possible future purchase of an 07 Odyssey. However, I was disappointed to learn that in order to get leather interior seats that i would have to purchase the EX-L model at the minimum and this comes with a moon roof (which i have absolutely no interest in).
We have a 2003 EX with Leather seats (all of them!!) and NO Moon roof which we are very happy with. Did i read the specs wrong?? Is there an 07 Odyssey with leather seating and NO Moon roof??
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We have a 2003 EX with Leather seats (all of them!!) and NO Moon roof which we are very happy with. Did i read the specs wrong?? Is there an 07 Odyssey with leather seating and NO Moon roof??
thanks
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You could buy an EX and have leather added. If you do so, be sure the installer knows his stuff about side airbags.
I wanted a moonroof in my Accord, but to get one, I had to get a power seat and heated mirrors - things I never use.
Here's a link to the Odyssey Buying and Leasing Experiences topic, which is a better place for your question -- post your question there and you're bound to get a lot of feedback.
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There seems to be a lot of pedal travel before the brakes engage, and I sometimes feel like I need to pump the brake pedal, even though the van is stopping in a safe distance. It's not losing brake fluid and I've had it checked out at the dealer. They could find no problems and compared it with another brand new Odyssey. The service mgr took it for a test drive and said he experienced the same thing and understood what I was talking about, but that it was the same in the other van.
I understand that there's nothing "mini" about an Odyssey. It's a lot of weight you're stopping, so it's not going to stop like my Civic. But I've driven heavier vehicles that at least gave the perception that they had better brakes.
Has anyone else had this experience, or am I just nitpicking?
Dealer says the condenser has a small hole now as it may been hit by a stone and it's not covered by warranty, quoted almost 1000 bucks.
Any advise on how to deal with the dealer to convince him would help!!!
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I would get another dealer, as this clearly qualifies as a warranty repair. There is no way that a condenser would fail at this age, especially on a Honda. My A/C in both my Odyssey and Civic has worked flawlessly since day 1; this is DEFINITELY not normal.
It should be covered under 3yr/36k warranty, but what he says is because it was hit by a stone it's not covered by warranty.
I will need to see a different dealer, but I am not sure what to argue with them? Can I say what's the gaurantee that it was hit by a stone and not condenser defect?
I took my odyssey to a different dealer, and he mentioned the same that this is not covered under warranty.
Then I called up the Honda Customer Care and they took my request and gave me a reference number. And they asked the Dealer to call their Regional giving this reference number, somehow they agreed to cover this when the Sales Rep at the dealer talked to them.
So, it's all covered and reimbursed to the dealer directly. Again thank you so much for your reply and please take a moment to post it on the Odyclub.com on my behalf, because it doesn't allow me to register.
Time to run to Homedepot and get that gutter gaurd/mesh...
I bought a couple new vehicles from Toyota before I've never experienced any of these things before.
Don't think, I will buy anything from Honda again. I was thinking of calling Honda Canada to express my unsatisfaction but not sure where to call.
Have you had a satisfactory resolution to your brake problem yet? If so, what was it?
Thanks in advance.
Fuel mileage - I've been very pleased with the highway mileage. I think in cooler weather it might even get 28 on the highway. However, I too have noted that the local mileage is a bit low. But that is with my wife doing most of the local driving. I think I could squeeze a couple more miles per gallon out of it than she's getting. I've noticed when riding with her that every time she starts off from a stop sign or traffic light she tends to give all the horses a workout. :P
The other thing to keep in mind is that the Odyssey has the rear audio jacks for you own personal set of headphones and ours with the DVD player has the wireless headphones. I haven't tried them out yet, but I believe you can listen to the stereo as well as the DVD, and even if I'm wrong you can still listen to CD's or DVD audio using the headphones.
However, the ride (road shock quality) is very much improved since Honda is now using rubber isolation mounts on the subframe.
There was a ticking sound coming from the driver side dash that I noticed when going over bumps. The dealer replaced the whole front strut assembly and it seems to be fixed.
Now I've noticed a creaking / squeaking sound combined with a clunking sound that comes from the passenger side rear suspension when pushing down to compress the suspension. I'm going to have to make another trip to the dealer for this.
It also seems like the brakes are somewhat soft at times, but the dealer says they are okay. Also, the hood prop is very loose in its clip - seems like it could become a source or rattling, but dealer says this is normal too - anyone notice these issues?
Is it unreasonable for us to be experiencing these sorts of problems in a brand new car? We've had Honda Accords in the past and never had problems like this when they were new. Are other Odyssey owners having these sorts of problems in brand new cars off the lot?
I'm hoping that we'll get these couple of things fixed and then have a relatively trouble free car like our other Hondas. Is this just a matter of getting the intitial bugs worked out, or do you think we're in for a constant barrage or problems?
Thanks!
We also had an intermittent rattle toward the right rear of our van. It turned out to be the seat belt buckle hitting against the plastic side panel. However, your creaking/squeaking sounds like a shock to me.
I can only remember one vehicle that I ever bought that didn't have any problems at all when it was brand new. I think once you get the demons exorcised you'll be in great shape.
It sounds like the brake thing really is just normal for these vans. I do hope things will be okay once I get the other demons out.
I did have a frustrating experience today bringing the van to the shop for the creaking / rattling noise I've noticed. When I got to the dealer I tried to demonstrate the noise for them using a method that has worked in my garage each time - just pulling down on the roof a bit to compress the suspension - but it didn't happen at the dealer, or at least it was too loud there to hear it. I got home, put the car in the garage, and I was able to reproduce the noise again - ugghhh! I'm afraid that this is going to be a tough one to get them to recognize and fix.
About the brakes. One thing I have to keep reminding myself in the Ody is that it is NOT a sedan. It doesn't seem as large as it is, but it is actually quite large and heavy. The EX-L is two and a quarter tons when it's completely empty. However, I still wish the brakes felt a bit firmer.
I guess you are right about a 2 1/4 ton vehicle needing some serious braking power to stop - Although it feels soft, it must be some serious power being applied by the brakes.
--Replacement Gel Kit - about $35 per tire
--Labor - depends (I was charged $35 per tire, but local dealer wants $85).
I have never *paid* for anyone to ever install new tires on any vehicle that I have ever owned. So say you get both at $35 per - then that is still $230 per tire (plus tax, disposal fees, etc) - only 44% more.
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The dealer is probably right & it is normal operation.
I have a 2007 Odyssey and am having trouble with both the Traction Control and ABS - Traction Control does not kick in as it is supposed to and ABS ends up leaving skid marks on the surface - meaning it is locking up. The dealer claims it is "within specification". I spoke to a few other owners who ended up saying "the rains at the soccer field where everyone was required to park on the grass ended up causing all Odysseys trouble as none of them could handle the wet grass."
Are others observing the same on this board and if so have you done more than get the "it is within specification" bs? I have never had a car even a 1987 Mercedes with worn out pads and more leave skid marks with ABS.
Bad brakes seems to be a common theme and having read some of the comments about how heavy the vehicle is ... I have towed 4500 pounds behind a Jeep Grand Cherokee and had to brake hard and still haven't had brakes behave like the Honda. Wouldn't dream of having passengers in the Honda let alone tow anything if the brakes behave like they do.
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Are the skid marks being left by your van long solid skid marks or are the brakes pulsing and leaving a series of short skid marks? The latter would not be unusual for most vehicles with ABS.
I'm also curious as to what you are doing that precipitates the need for your "traction control" to kick in. If you are referring to driving on the wet grass you mentioned, then I don't think that's what VSA is designed to help with. My understanding is that VSA is to help you avoid a rollover, not to get out of the mud.
The only reason I can even imagine for removing the grab handles would be to remove the headliner - which might be necessary for installing something like a DVD player.
If I were you, I'd milk Honda AND the dealer for all I could get out of a mistake that stupid. At the very least they ought to give you a free oil change for the inconvenience. Did you already get the survey from Honda regarding your purchasing experience? If not you might be able to use it to your favor when it does come. From what I hear, they take those things quite seriously.
I'm not sure about the missing screw. What do you mean by "extra seat cabinet"?
Long skid marks - no the brakes don't pulsate as they are supposed to. As far as the short skid marks - never seen that before on good ABS systems since the time pulse times are supposed to be in the millisecond range. I have had ABS since a 1992 on various vehicles including a 1987 model MB that still didn't do what this does.
That is why it is so disappointing.
"I'm also curious as to what you are doing that precipitates the need for your "traction control" to kick in."
Actually VSA versus traction control are two different things. VSA uses traction control and ABS to stabilize the car. However traction control prevents wheel slipping by applying the brakes to both wheel - such as when one wheel is on wet surface and the other on dry, the wheel on wet will spin faster and so the brakes are applied to prevent the car from going into a spin. Imagine a box that you push from the rear left side only. The left rear starts moving to the front and the right front becomes a pivot point. By slowing the traction wheel as well, the car doesn't get pulled to one side and so is prevented from going into a spin.
Again all other vehicles with traction control that I have driven have never had a wheel spin like this and that includes rear wheel drive cars in snow!
It is these safety features that I am so used to trusting that are failing in this vehicle. And it may just be that the standard claimed by Honda is different from a GM, Chrysler, BMW or Mercedes. That is what I am trying to put a handle on. Just some reference on ABS and Traction Control that shows that ABS brakes never lock (brakes are applied and released and re-applied at up to 20 times per second)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-lock_brakes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traction_control
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I do not know if they tried to install something. But it seems not usual to install a DVD layer for an EX. I found most are for EX-L though.
Now I just become very suspicious about every parts of the vehicle. I am worried about if there would be anything else missing that we might be not aware of at all.
As far as the DVD players - you can get an aftermarket player that is identical to the one Honda puts in the vans with RES. There are tons of others out there that can also be mounted in most any kind of vehicle and typically they cost considerably less than the factory models.
In your case, I was wondering if perhaps the dealer had a customer before you who wanted a DVD player installed and that's the only way they could make the deal work... so they got ready to install and then the deal fell through, and they just forgot to put the handles back. I'm not saying that's what happened, but it is a plausible explanation.
My friend, that's the reason we no longer drive a VW. Except in our case it was two hours one way. It still takes about 30 minutes to get to the Honda dealer, but at least if I have an appointment for an oil change, I can be back home in about 90 minutes.
I think I'd press them a little harder. Something that dumb is worth more than just one tank of gas, and as far as you are from the dealership, you burned up at least a quarter tank on the trip. Sure, a tank full of gas these days costs more than an oil change (who'd of ever thought that five years ago :mad: ). But at the same time, an oil change lasts at least 4600 miles longer than a tank of gas.
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