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No biggie, just a common oversight.
-juice
http://www.helminc.com/
I'm aware of:
http://handaaccessories.com/crv.html
http://hondacuraworld.com/
http://www.hondapartsforyou.com/home-d.html
http://www.jjproducts.net/
http://www.hparts.com/ace.php3
Thanks for any input!
http://www.honda.co.jp/NEWCR-V/index2.html
That site contains some drawings that look amazingly like some of Varmits original "spy" pics!!!
Until they are ready to release, of course the small bits that they do show you are just teasers. Any idea what the Japanese script says ?
S
Scname and Yatchie - I can't take credit for the earlier spy pics. They were first posted by a fella over at the CR-V IX. But, those teasers do look consistent with the sketches. It looks like the spare is not integrated and there's a difference in the grill, but the longer tail lights are the same as are the three corner head lamps.
I am ready to get a CRV now, but I am dying here waiting to see if I want the new 2002 or the current model.
Bob
1. Click on the big green box
2. Click on the link called "click" on the lower right (it has a small animated pencil sketch of the CR-V)
3. Five green boxes come up on the left, with mostly Japanese(?) writing in them. Click each one to see a little bit of the new CR-V!?!
I didn't find any more pictures.
partscheap.com are three places I've had success with in the past. Their item prices are usually pretty close, so the cost of taxes and shipping end up playing a big role.
For example, I'm almost exclusively shopping at hparts.com now. Why? Not only can I place orders by part # any time of day, but they can ship quickly. I'm in Texas, and they're in Oklahoma, which means lower shipping costs and I don't pay sales tax.
As for the teaser pics of the new CR-V . . . I wanna see the whole car now!
Someone over at SUV.com (claiming to work for a dealer) posted that the seats would "move around". Maybe Honda is bringing over the swivel passenger seat(?) Hey, we've already got a bed, a picnic table, a folding console and pass-through, why not add the shower unit as well? :-)
but seriously, we can take the big radio out of the cr-v and put in the navigations system they already install in acura's, but then people will complain that the radio controls and a/c controls are in the nav system. when i was in japan i went to honda headquaters/showroom in aoyama, their nav system had integrated climate control, radio, cd, tv, dvd player, GPS (nav) system, and a whole bunch of other things. these were also availabe as aftermarket in akihabara, a kenwood system sold for $400 (after conversion) but no US dvd maps, and no english buttons nor manual.
• The headlights seem to follow the current trend of being pulled back and over the fenders. I like that. It adds "interest" to the face of the vehicle.
• They stuck with, and expanded upon, the current tall taillight theme. I like that too.
• Not wild about the CRV sticking with a rear mounted spare. Rear end collisions are costly to repair. Let's hope, for North America, the door opens to traffic, rather than the curb, as it currently does.
• The small sketches "imply" that the front contour may be similar to the new MDX and HR-V, which I suspected would happen.
Bob
Why? Every SUV sold here with a rear mounted spare has gotten bad press as far as rear end collisions are concerned. The just released rear end crash reports show the MDX, without a rear-mounted spare to be the best. Honda, I'm sure, would like the same kind of positive press for the new CRV.
If that does happen, I wonder if the non-door-mounted-spare version gets a "hatch," as opposed to a rear door?
Also, I wonder if "Fullmark" and "Performa" are the homemarket names of those two different versions?
http://www.honda.co.jp/NEWCR-V/style/index.html
Bob
The new CR-V for North America will probably keep this as the only option due to the growing competition in this class. The "tireless" CR-V has always been an option in Japan, though.
As for the hatch, I doubt it'll be this way. Simplification of the design and manufacturing process will rule the hatch out, IMHO.
So, I guess we'll see for sure sometime in the fall. But it's sure great to at least start seeing some "real" pics of the new 'V... :-)
Bob
Bob - The Fullmark is the "luxury" edition of the CR-V. It includes stuff like the NAV, fully painted bumpers, VSA, and other stuff not available here. The Performa (sport edition) is more like the EX models we have here.
Barnone - I had to wait several months for Matrixracing.com to correct a mistake they made with my order. Eventually they fixed it, but it ended up costing me shipping charges on top of the three month wait. OTOH, Reiner4 has had nothing but good luck with Matrix. You never know...
Looks like the JDM CR-V will still have a similar glass hatch and gate. I recall Team CR-V, when they hosted a chat here at Edmunds, promised that was one thing they would fix on the next one (not opening curb side, that is). We'll see.
-juice
Subaru manages to squeeze a 215mm wide full sizer under the mat, so I'm sure Honda could figure out a 205mm tire.
-juice
If you click on the button below the one labeled "i-Vtec" you'll see a picture pop up that vaguely shows the spare. Also, it looks like they've kept the big, vertical brake lights.
The other photos seem to indicate a more swept hoodline.
Ken
Anyway, part of the rear ending scenario is skewed by the bumper bash tests. These do NOT test how well a bumper will hold up when hit by another car. They test how much it will cost to repair a bumper if you back into a pole, or you back into a flat barrier. Cars are neither poles, nor flat. Many cars will strike the underside of the rear bumper on a CR-V and never come in contact with the spare.
Large SUVs and vans are another story, though. Something like a Tahoe or Expedition will certainly smack the spare. But then again, having a spare on the back may save your life when rear-ended by a behemoth like that. :-O
Too late to make this short, but my point is you have to pay attention to what is being tested to make proper sense of the results. The "bad press" associated with the bumper bash isn't as bad as it seems. Really all this test applies to is a parking lot accident. Even then how often to back up at 5 mph? That's actually quite fast.
gsogymrat - BTW, for best results use a 5 wheel rotation schedule to avoid having to use an un-worn spare.
Bob
I believe a temp spare would be a very bad idea on the CR-V because of the four-wheel drive mechanism. Those clutch packs activate ANYTIME the front tires are spinning faster than the rears, and a temp spare on the front may cause that scenario. RT4WD is not intended to be engaged continuously for extended periods of time. It's just one of those unique quirks to this vehicle.
Here it goes (and remember—these are just gut feelings, nothing more):
• 2.4L engine with horsepower and torque just edging out the current Forester, say around 170/170.
• Gear shift coming out the bottom of the dash, like that of the RX300, Highlander, and Honda's own '02 Civic Si.
• 5-speed automatic. I believe Honda is moving quickly in this direction, and this a perfect vehicle for a 5-speed automatic. The new Acuru RSX has it, and Automobile magazine just stated the '02 Odyssey will have a 5-speed automatic (and 240 hp). I doubt it will have a manu-matic feature.
• 6-speed manual will be offered. Anybody remember the mid-80's Civic wagon with Real-Time 4WD? It came with a 6-speed, with 1st gear being a "granny gear" that was only used in difficult situations. Normally you started off in 2nd gear. I predict Honda will do it again with this model.
• Wheelbase will increase to about 104."
• Tires and wheels get larger. I say 225/60x16, which is the same size the Outback uses here in North America.
• Roof rack to be upgraded to 100 pound capacity.
• Towing to be increased to 2000 pounds.
Well, that should get the discussion moving.
Bob
I don't think that Honda has lost any money because of the CR-V's roof rack and towing ratings, so I don't expect big increases there. I also don't expect there to be an optional engine for a while. Like Bob, I don't expect to see SportShift. It's gimicky in an SUV.
Those teasers are very much like the picture posted by Varmit. I'm just a little disappointed that the spare (at least from what I can see) isn't integrated into the tailgate like we thought it would.
I'm so excited I can't stop typing
Diploid - Good eye. When I first saw the spy pics, I noticed that the tail lamps don't wrap around the D pillar like they do now. That section of painted sheetmetal breaks up the horizontal lines of the profile and makes it look a bit shorter.
As for the tailgate, Honda wasn't originally selling the CR-V anywhere but in the home market. So the conversion to left hand drive was probably kept as simple and inexpensive as possible. You have to look at it from a bean counter's perspective, "How many sales do we lose because of the tailgate?". Probably not many. However, now that the CR-V is a proven success here in the states, Honda has no excuse, but to adapt it to our side of the street.
Varmit- exactly! When the new CR-V rolls out, I'll bet there's going to be a waiting list, and they'll sell at MSRP. For that amount of money and patience, they should at least reward us with a tail gate that swings in our preference. Or have the option of having a liftgate.
That leads me to ask this question: *IF* we get the option of having a liftgate...what happens to the spare? Do we get a donut instead of a full sized spare? I don't think a full sized spare would fit correctly inside the cargo area.
By the looks of the pictures, the new CR-V seems to keep it that way, but I do wonder about the pop up glass? I hope they don't turn it into a RAV4 type door/glass combo... :-(
Who cares which way it opens anyhow? I never thought about this or even heard of it before reading it with my own 2 eyes right here.
Sheesh!
sunroof standrad on the EX
rear glass sliding into the rear door (ala 4 runner)
5 spd auto, or 6 spd manual, dash mounted
i have an upgrade question though, would a V6 from previous generation accord fit in the current cr-v engine bay?
I really liked and miss this feature. That, and the front quarter/vent windows. I guess they faded because of security concerns, but with all the alarms now, it shouldn't be a problem.
Bob
I doubt we'll see a lift up gate. The pics indicate a split gate like the current model. The question is, will they reverse the door swing for the N. American market? Note, those pics are most likely a JDM model. KMH is not alone. I prefer the current hinge set up. It's only a problem for folks who have to load at curbside.
Dudka - Nope, the Acccord V6 won't fit. The 02 CR-V is likely to have an even smaller engine bay, since the new i-VTEC blocks are smaller. I wouldn't expect the Accord 2.4 either. The new 2.0 is more fuel efficient, more powerful, cleaner, and smaller. The new i-VTEC engines also spin in the opposite direction. If the CR-V is going to use Civic parts in the tranny, then they'll have to avoid any other Honda engine.
Sasquatch - Yeah, those electric lift-glass gates were pretty neat. My folks had one in their Bel Aire wagon. Busted all the time, though.
Think about it; the "sweep pattern" of wipers is also geared to which side the driver is on.
Bob
Anyway, most likely the next CR-V will have a modest power boost (to silence the critics), but it will remain aimed at those buyers who are looking for an economical mini-ute and not a scaled down version of the mid size class. This will also help Honda with expanding into the european markets where big blocks are a "no no".
typical small block = 5.0 liter Ford or 5.7 liter GM
typical big block = 7.4 liter GM, etc.