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Having said that, I can believe that some people whose legs are very long could have a problem in the Fit in that they cannot reach the steering wheel if they adjust the seat to accommodate their legs. The telescoping steering column in the next-gen Fit should make a big difference there.
I am pretty normal sized for a US male--5'10", 32" inseam, pretty normal-length arms. I have exactly the same problem with the Fit that brittany described. Fortunately, I sat in the Fit several times and test-drove a couple of them before deciding that I would not be able to live with the driving position over time. It seems from what I've read in Town Hall, some Fit buyers are finding out after the purchase that the driving position doesn't suit them. And that's a shame, because not having a comfortable driving position is no fun.
The moral of the story; take the Fit for a LONNNNNG test drive before you buy--and have everyone who will drive it sit in the driver's seat and make sure it fits them. And consider that if it doesn't seem comfortable now, it probably won't get better with time.
I am crossing my fingers (very hard to do that while typing, btw) that the 2009 Fit will have a driving position that is better suited to more drivers--including "normal" sized drivers like me!
I think that just the opposite is true. If you're not used to a seating position, it can seem uncomfortable at first. I had an old Mazda RX-7 that seemed uncomfortable until I got used to its really low seating position. When I first got my Ford Freestyle, the sitting-in-a-chair seating took some getting used too, since my other two cars at the time were a Corolla and Mercury Cougar. Now I find the Freestyle comfortable.
During my test drives, I found the Matrix and Fit to both have seating positions that took some getting used to, as compared to the Nissan Versa and Mazda3 that felt comfortable right away. For me, a telescoping wheel would do the trick, since I've been in plenty of cars without height adjustments, which were still good.
Look in the Fit's long-term test blog on the Fit and you'll find most folks love the car. If the seating were really as bad as some posters say, then I'd think it would be more discussed in the blogs and in other reviews. Not saying that seating position isn't mentioned as an improvement area, but it's not that big of a deal for most drivers.
No car is perfect, but for me the less-than-perfect seating postion was outweighed by all of the other positive aspects of the car as compared to the competition.
Consider that the reason most buyers don't complain about the Fit's driving position is that they did what I did: they tried the car out before they bought it, and it was comfortable enough for them. Most of those who found it uncomfortable (like me) didn't buy one. Some didn't drive it, or drive it enough, or bought it thinking they could live with it. I have seen some of their posts in Town Hall.
Other cars have poor driving positions for many people. One example is the 2003-8 Corolla. Read practically any review on the car and you'll see this problem mentioned prominently. Obviously it wasn't a major problem for everyone, since the car sold in large numbers. But it was enough of a problem for me to strike it off my "consider" list the first time I took it for a long drive, and was bad enough that Toyota addressed the problem in the 2009 redesign--just as Honda is doing on the 2009 Fit, by adding a telescopic steering wheel (if not a height adjuster). The Corolla still isn't great in this department, IMO, but now it's tolerable at least. I hope the 2009 Fit will be at least "tolerable" also.
Daytona Bob :shades:
Sign me up for one. I adore my Fit except for that problem. Mine is a manual transmission so I can have the clutch or the gas pedal but not both.
EJ
The most narrow part of the rear is between the rear wheel wells. This is 40" if memory serves. And the shortest height is where the rear shoulder harness for the rear middle seat resides in the roof..that height is 35". So you may have some trouble. I suppose you could put your stuff on an angle to get in there, but if it's valuable art then you'd probably want some sort of stand or harness to hold is diagonally like that.
Plus, the rear hatch opening is more narrow than the cargo; I should have measured the diagonal of the hatch opening for you.
I am seriously considering buying a fit. Could you measure the maximum height available in the cargo area with the back seats down. I am trying to find a fuel efficient car that is high enough (interior wise) to allow me to transport my bicycle in the car with front wheel off. I need around ~40 inches.
Thanks,
Steve
To begin with, the Honda Fit a/c is not strong. On a 75 degree day, having it on 1 is not enough. I usually switch from 2 to 1 to 2 to 1 just to get the right mix and this is with the temp gauge at max blue.
My old 2005 Mazda 3i with beige interior had an unacceptable a/c (known issue). On a hot day and at max fan speed/max blue temp, it blows just cool air (not cold).
Anybody notice the same thing, or does this sound like a faulty gauge of some kind?
I've owned small cars before, but I don't remember such lively fan behavior.
I've noticed that when I run the AC, the car's fan seems to start and stop rather frequently--on for a couple of minutes, then off for about 20 seconds, then on again.
Anybody notice the same thing, or does this sound like a faulty gauge of some kind? I know that A/C is supposed to operate in cycles, but this seems really frequent.
(I've owned small cars before, but I don't remember such lively fan behavior. )
Any ideas?
I went through a couple of summers with a BMW with weak AC and I won't do it again!
I guess I will wait and drive the car before cancelling the order. Hopefully the AC for the 09 has been improved.
Dave
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Any feedback appreciated! Thanks!
Wanted to let you know that I've successfully put my Trek touring bicycle in the back of my 2007 Fit without a problem - had the back seats down flat and took the front wheel off first. I love this car - consistently get over 40 MPG. I do mostly highway driving at about 60 MPH - most people pass me, but I get the phenomenal gas mileage!
Elaine
I also use the FIT to transport my touring bike, and love it. Here's the method I use that you may like even more than folding the back seats down:
Use the vertical mode! Fold the rear seat bottoms UP. Open the rear door behind the driver's seat. Take the front wheel off the bike. Keeping the bike vertical, put it in the car with the rear wheel first. When the rear wheel is all the way in, turn the handlebars 90 degrees to your right and lift slightly so that the brake levers are resting on the padded front of the raised rear seat. Then put in your front wheel (there will be LOTS of room for it). This has a couple of advantages. The bike remains vertical so that your water bottles can remain filled. It also frees up the entire hatch area for your other gear/luggage. Give it a try!
... Craig in Colorado
Prior to selecting the car, I read about the 'not too hot' A/C performance and agree with you. I am trying not to use the A/C all of the time, as I used to. Seems to help with mileage. I went from 20 mpgs to 30. The car has 1,350 miles now, so I am over the break in hump and hope to move up to the 36 mpgs the Fit Sport Automatic is known for. I do not think servicing your A/C will help.
In northern CA we've had nasty heat waves well into the 100s. I do as little driving as possible on those days. I also cave and use the A/C intermittently when I must drive distances on those days.
Gregg :shades:
Motor on!
Before buying, I measured the length from rear hatchback to back of the passenger seat (in forward position) as 67 inches in the 2008. (My Fit is actually a 2009.) Of course the front wheel folds downward behind the front seat so one doesn't need all that room--and you can also gain more inches by angling across the space. I actually haven't tried the "tall Mode" approach between the seats so can't speak to actual width or experience with that but doubt you could fit two bikes in that mode without damage danger to the rear seats. (Since the "station wagon" style works so well, Tall mode hasn't been a needed approach.)
Can't comment on the cargo net as we don't have one but I think the attachment loops are floor-only.
Hope this helps. Have to say that 3 years experience of the car tell me it really is a gem and if I ever suggest that my wife change it for something else I am told that first I'll have to prise the keys out of her cold, dead hands. You'll doubtless gather that she rather likes it.
Are we the only ones? Can this be covered in the warranty?
Has anybody used their Fit to carry a LCD TV? What is the biggest can it carry?
Has anybody used their Fit to carry a LCD TV? What is the biggest can it carry?
Well I put a Weber Genesis E-310 BBQ unassembled in the factory box into my Fit. Go to a Home Depot and look at the massive size of that box! It's HUGE! :surprise:
It fit in with the rear seats folded down. I didn't write down the measurements but it was Massive. A 46" flat screen should present no problems unless you need the rear seats. Width will be your biggest issue, height and depth will be fine.
même je ne suis pas certain, mais est ce que me semble-t-il ou ce vrai que le gap entre la roue et la carrosserie d'arrière dans la version 2007 est plus petite que dans la version 2009? si ce le cas est-ce que quelqu'un peut me recommander si cela cause de problèmes pour la neige?
dernièrement, quel version d'honda fit amène la possibilité de lever-baisser le siège du conducteur? (ma femme mesure 1,55 mt et on a peur qu'elle ne puisse pas s'accomoder)
merci à tous!
Robert
manual transmission?
I'm familiar with a short shifter on a BMW.
If the Fit has a truly short shifter it will improve
the shifting dramatically.
Anyone have any comments?
Thanks guys