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No idea what it is.
As far as discounts go, for the L Series Saturns you get 8.5% off the base price and 10% off any options added (i.e. leather package). This doesn't include dealer added options. With the VUE you get 7.5% off base price and 9% off options.
I've only compared that to the discount on the Impala. That vehicle gets 11.5% off base price and 14% off options.
Man I wish I worked for a GM supplier. All I get working at a brokerage firm is free banking. Big deal!
;-)
As far as discounts go ... my father works at GM so when I was going to purchase mine he went to the office in his plant and asked about discounts. He was told that there was no formal agreement with the Saturn division on discounts but GM gave the dealership 5% back on an employee purchase so they would at least give me that but weren't required to give anything more. The dealership I dealt with was great - they said they'd give me 5% off anything off the lot or if I wanted to order and wait, they'd give it to me at dealer cost. They even broke down what every little option would cost at their cost. That was a big part of me buying a Saturn - at both a Pontiac dealership and a Chrysler dealership (I was eligible for their discount too as brother works there)they couldn't even give me a straight answer on what the discount was, would just give me a payment and when I figured out the final cost by multiplying out the payments (supposedly at 0% interest) they were trying to shaft me big time. I was completely comfortable with the people at Saturn and really felt that I could trust them. When the final invoice came through it was within pennies of what they had originally told me - absolutely no surprises.
Those who stated the mark-up on Saturn's is not as high are completely correct. The dealer invoice was not quite 10% below retail.
For example: I believe base model VUE in the US is about $17000, converted to Canadian funds (exchange currently at $1.58 Cdn = $1 US) the VUE should cost $26 860 Canadian but the base model VUE is less than $22 000 here. What a difference eh? :-)
traction control switch is above the CD Player,
but the fog light switch is there.
I can't find the switch anywhere. Also when I turn on the ignition
there is no Traction Control light but there is an
ABS light. Dealer says the Traction control is
"permanently on,hence no switch" I have trouble
with this explanation. Anyone had this problem.
The service mgr. said the sound is the heating-air conditioning system pressuring up, trying to displace the air in the lines. He said the noise would occur when the heater is in defrost mode. I hadn't tried keeping the air system off to test it.
Maybe this explains the sounds that Vue owners are reporting.
In the Design and Price section, it lists both ABS and traction control as a single combined option for the 4 cylinder FWD VUE. For the V6 FWD VUE, only ABS is offered as an option.
Wonder why traction control is not offered on the V6 FWD VUE?
Tach wound up when I floored the accelerator.
This didn't happen with my 96 Sunfire with traction control.
Traction control isn't really needed if you use common sense, all it does is stop lead foots from spinning the tires, by limiting the amount of acceleration. In other words don't goose it, and you won't need it.
ABS also has it's drawbacks, in a slow moving situation, say a traffic jam, it will actually increase the stopping distance of your vehicle.
Jeff
was considering upgrading to a 2003 V6 automatic.
When we started the finance of it they told me the
Vue was only worth $11,000 as a trade in value, what a surprise!!!!
At the time we were looking for a SUV it was between the Honda CR-V & the Saturn Vue, I spoke to a Honda dealer & he expressed to me that the Honda would hold it's value better than a Saturn Vue.
Looking at the Saturn Vue Sport Pkg at $17,500 with power option, moon roof, tinted windows, cruise control, etc... versus Honda at $19,500 same options, needless to say we bought the Saturn Vue. At that time the salesman from Saturn
told us that the Vue Sports Pkg with options would be worth more to us down the road. NOT TRUE!! as we quickly found out. We owe $15,500 & it's now worth a $11,000. Dollar for dollar I think I should have bought the Honda. I am very disappointed with Saturn!! I really thought the Vue would hold it's value..GEE I hope I don't hit a deer!!!
In the end, selling a vehicle after 1 year is always a loosing proposition. Don't kid yourself, you would loose on a CRV also (though probably less). Most of a vehicles depreciation happens as soon as you drive off the lot. Keep in mind also that new VUEs come with 0% financing now which is an incentive that will push down re-sale.
More than once, I avoided hitting another car in a slippy road, thanks to ABS I could still steer and avoid. I will never buy a car without ABS, ever.
ALL OTHER MODELS come with ABS only.
(Canada or US spec cars)
It's a must if you live where there is any kind of snow or slippery conditions in my mind.
I want to suggest to Saturn that they forget replacing it this time, let me pay the difference between it and the front end cover instead, and also fix the paint job on the hood of my VUE - does that seem reasonable?
Steve, Host
Happy Thankgiving everyone. Looking FORWARD to my 3 hour drive in the Vue.
Sorry, it's not Thanksgiving to me if there's not a turkey involved. Preferably with dried up breast meat - the moist stuff doesn't soak up the mayo as well the next day.
Have a safe trip, Vuefor2, and everyone else heading somewhere for the holiday.
Steve, Host
Happy thanksgiving to all of you south of the 49th.
BTW Steve, we had cornish hen this year instead of turkey and I didn't miss the turkey. Seems like turkey is always a little on the dry side. Maybe our mom's just don't do it right?
One trick with turkey is to keep some ice bags on the white meat while the dark meat warms up to room temp, then put it in the oven. You'll have moist breast meat that way, and maybe a touch of salmonella too, LOL. Be thankful for the Vue to haul you to the ER in that case....
Steve, Host
Cornish hen is great. Everyone got their own bird to carve as they like.
;-)
Oh, and check out the Subaru Forester vs Hyundai Santa Fe vs Jeep Liberty vs Ford Escape/Mazda Tribute vs Saturn Vue discussion.
Steve, Host
Good luck.
My other favorites in this category.. Escape/Tribute and CRV.
Congrats on the new vehicle though. The 5-speed has a decent amount of of power IMO and if you live in a less congested area is really ideal. Unfortunately living in the Toronto area, I highly doubt I will ever have a 5-speed unless the deal was irresistible or I buy a summer sports car.
jmatero - I have to agree with you, I find the 4 cyl. 5 speed has plenty of power, it's actually quite peppy.
What ever the reasons, congrats and welcome.
We had a great trip in our Vue this Thanksgiving. I ate way too much so I am on a bit of a diet this week. I test drove another Ion this weekend for fun and I still like it as a possible car replacement. My wife seems to like the blue Corolla we saw better. Still no decision but we love our Vue.
Tom
I finally had a chance to test my v6 AWD in some snow. We were up in the Colorado foothills(mountains to some)last Saturday to cut a Christmas tree and their was about 8 inches of snow. I have a question. How can you tell when it goes into AWD and engages the rear wheels, does a light come on? I couldn't tell if I was in 2 or all wheel. Do you hear something??? It went great in the snow but it probably does well in FWD also, I'd just like to know.
Hey Matero, you finally bought a VUE. I guess you really aren't a Hyundai salesman after all. Enjoy, they are fun vehicles and like you said, a reasonable price.
My Saturn retailer is said to receive "special edition" VUE's in february or March. That include air/ pwr locks/mirrors/ keyless entry/ cd player/ and alloy wheels for 17,495.00...
How does everyone like their special edition VUE's?