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  • juliansjulians Member Posts: 42
    I have heard from my dealer that ALL vti tansmisions are warranted to 75,000 miles because of possible failures like yours. There should be no charge, if there is, do a little more research.
  • carguy1234carguy1234 Member Posts: 233
    It looks like that is indeed an oddball tire size. And unfortunately the OEM VUE tires are among the worst rated tires you can get (per Tire Rack reviews).

    I was planning on putting Nokian WR's on our VUE since I'm so pleased with them on our other vehicle, but now I'll have to do some digging to see if an alternative size can be used.
  • cacwbycacwby Member Posts: 7
    Was told they don't offer Towing Package with RedLine - is this because of the lower springs? Anyone put on a hitch with RedLine? I'm just towing a small(13') wooden boat.
  • rysterryster Member Posts: 571
    There are more choices coming out regularly for the 235/65/16 size. You can now get Bridgestone Turanza EL42, Michelin Energy LX4, Goodyear Eagle GA, and for those looking for a winter tire the Bridgestone Blizzak is available.

    215/70/16 is basically the same ride height as the 235/65. Saturn uses the 215/70 size on some models of the VUE. I can't imagine it would cause any problems. It is not uncommon for some owners of the AWD V6 VUE to switch to the 215/70 size even though their truck came with the 235/65. We have thought about it on ours. It is narrower, however, and would have a slightly lesser load rating than a 235/65.

    Our dealer did tell us that switching sizes was a big no-no, and that if something broke during the warranty period that could be traced back to the narrower tire size they wouldn't authorize the repair under warranty.
  • carguy1234carguy1234 Member Posts: 233
    Has anybody had the suspension recall work done yet? We are still waiting to hear when we can get ours done.
  • johnbjohnb Member Posts: 32
    I hear the suspension upgrade parts are trickling in slowly (about 5 units at a time or so). Your best bet is to try to see when the next batch is coming in and then schedule your next service appointment (oil change, etc) and have them install the suspension parts while they have the vehicle already there.

    If you do your own servicing, you can probably just set an appointment to have the suspension upgrade done by itself. Again, you may have to wait for the next batch of parts to come in. Call your local Saturn service department and ask to chat with the Service Manager.
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  • fsvfsv Member Posts: 196
    Guys, I am coming to the end of my Accords lease and we are looking closely at few cars, one of them bing Vue. Could please participants of this forum be so kind and summarize their experiences with this specific '04 Honda V6 povered Vue? I really appreciate that, since time starts putting knife to my throat. This will be my wife's car, so you might know how it is....
  • turksteritisturksteritis Member Posts: 95
    I have 22000k on my 04 AWD. I had 2 Tributes...the Vue is a lot better for fuel consumption, power, road noise & comfort. That Honda V-6 is saweet!!! No real issues with the vehicle. I am waiting to get the RDM replaced & gonna have the recall on the rear axle done at the same time. Awesome vehicle for the $$$$$!
  • leo64leo64 Member Posts: 4
    Has anyone notice on there 04 VUE or later models the AC compressor coming on when selecting air flow to the feet on the climate control knob? I thought something was wrong so I took the car in for service and they said this is normal. If this is normal, I don't know why Saturn would design the car that way because the air compressor causes the car to eat more gas and it is not needed for that selection. I can see that happening for the de-fog selection, not the feet selection. Go figure!
  • johnbjohnb Member Posts: 32
    I haven't noticed that on my 04 VUE (4cyl).

    What speed do you have the fan set to?
    Does it matter if the A/C button is on or off?
    What about the air recirculate button?
  • leo64leo64 Member Posts: 4
    Thanks for responding John,

    What speed do you have the fan set to?

    Any speed will turn the compressor on if the selection on the climate control is set to feet, feet/defog or completely defog. I know it should come on for the feet/defog and complete defog selection but I think it is strange for it to come on for the feet only selection.

    Does it matter if the A/C button is on or off?

    Doesn't matter if the A/C button is press or not. Turn your climate control to the defog selection and you will notice the compressor coming on even if the A/C button isn't press but you will have to make sure the fan is turn on to selection 1 or higher first.

    What about the air recirculate button?

    Doesn't matter if the air recirculate button is on or off.
  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    We bought an '04 VUE AWD V6 on Saturday for the wife. She loves the car, but there is one issue that is bugging us. When we go over a sharp bump in the road, the interior lights flash and the door locks click ... seems like a short in the system to me.

    Has anyone else experienced this malady?
  • johnbjohnb Member Posts: 32
    Leo64,
    I will try some experiments this weekend, but I honestly don't think my VUE kicks in the compressor on any of those settings -- mainly because the A/C places a bigger load on the 4cyl engine so it is more noticable when the A/C is engaged on my VUE.
  • twinfo3728twinfo3728 Member Posts: 1
    I have a 2003 Saturn Vue that has an after market remote start with alarm on it. The problem is that it does not always start with the remote and then you have to wait 10 minutes while resetting the alarm before you can go. The alarm was an Audiovox that was installed by Circuit City, after 6 visits and 9-1/2 months they gave up and gave me a full refund.
    Since then I found another dealer with a guarantee he could get it to work. Different alarm, different installer, same problem. They said they had it fixed but last night it did it again.
    The problem is it is inconsistent. Sometime is starts good and sometimes the car is sitting there trying to start until you remotely turn it off.
    Has anyone else had this problem??
    Do you have one that works?? If so who installed it??
  • drivvendrivven Member Posts: 54
    I may have asked this question before, but that was when this model VUE was new. I've got a 2004 with the Honda V6 and it's got just over 16k miles on the odometer. Ever since we've owned the vehicle I've noticed the temperature gauge has what I'd consider a low reading. To me, if the engine is operating at normal temperature the gauge should be registering almost top dead center, or just about where the center mark is.

    Mine does not do that. At operating temperature the gauge reads just over the 1/4 mark on the dial. Since there are a lot more owners of the Honda V6 version at this time I would suspect that many have had the opportunity to monitor their temperature gauges and I'm interested in where their gauges read with respect to the middle of the range.

    I suspect our VUE is just running a bit too cool for maximum efficiency of the engine, thus things like MPG are affected. On a trip we might average 24 MPG running at 70mpg. I just believe this might be about 10-15% low and I think a warmer operating temperature might help.

    Any observations would help. I queried my service department over this issue about a year ago and they felt there was no problem with the gauge where it was. Granted, there is no overheating problem, but could there be an "underheating" problem?
  • turksteritisturksteritis Member Posts: 95
    I have 26 K on my 04 V-6 Vue. My temp gauge in cold weather reads just over the 1/4 mark. In summer warmer weather it reads approx. 1/2 way between 1/4 & 1/2 on the temp gauge. My mileage has dropped about 3-4 mpg hi-way in the colder winter temps too. This usually happens with every vehicle I own.
  • drivvendrivven Member Posts: 54
    I appreciate the response which shows me that you've seen the same gauge readings that I've been witnessing. I should feel fortunate that my mileage doesn't change very drastically in colder weather.

    We just completed a 1500 mile trip to Minnesota and the mileage varied from 22mpg to 26mpg. A lot of it has to do with the attitude of the vehicle when we refill, eg. several degrees off level can keep the tank from completely filling, or can permit more fuel to be pumped into the tank.

    Also, wind conditions can play havoc with the mileage. A tailwind will obviously add to the mileage and conversely a headwind will subtract. I've seemed to notice this effect even more than the re-filling geometry. The 22mpg reading came after a steady cross wind (15-20mph) and the 26mpg with a reduced headwind.

    All things considered I am not at all displeased with the vehicle, in fact my wife and I are extremely pleased. I'm just trying to see if I can squeeze a little more perfection from it! Thank you again for the input on the temp gauge. It's enlightening.
  • johnbjohnb Member Posts: 32
    I have a 2004 4-cyl whose Temp Gauge also reads just above 1/4 deflection. This has not bothered me much since my 1996 SL2 also reads around that same temperature range.

    That said, I have noticed a huge non-linearity in the Fuel Gauge on this VUE. Here is the typical breakdown on mileage for each 1/4 change in the fuel gauge:

    FULL to 3/4: ~100 miles
    3/4 to 1/2: ~80 miles
    1/2 to 1/4: ~60 miles
    1/4 to RED: ~40 miles

    Has anyone else noticed this? I can believe the increase in the first 1/4 tank of gas (FULL to 3/4) since topping off the tank may place more fuel in the tank than the gauge can actually read, but I hate watching that needle drop once you hit the last 1/4 tank of fuel. It's like the "dump fuel now" switch got flipped or something. :)

    I hope that it's not an issue of the engine becoming less efficient as the fuel level drops. That would really be something Saturn should fix if that is the case...
  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    Not sure if it is specifically a Saturn "problem".

    I've got a Ford Focus that does the same thing with the fuel gauge. The gas tank holds 12 or 13 gallons (can't remember of the top of my head), and in the first 1/2 tank, I can get 160-200 miles. However, the "bottom" half of the tank only allows me to go 120-140 miles before the low fuel light comes on.

    I just plan for it. Haven't checked out the wife's VUE just yet to see if that is true with hers.
  • drivvendrivven Member Posts: 54
    To all:

    I've noticed that phenomenon with my fuel gauge also. But I've noticed that "disturbing" trend with virtually all the vehicles I've owned. The first half of the tank seems a lot more fuel efficient than the last half. It may be because the filler pipe holds a certain amount of fuel, or it could be that the gauge is just not calibrated properly. I'd tend to go with the latter. I'd say generally that 5/8 showing on the gauge is more like 1/2 a tank.
  • carguy1234carguy1234 Member Posts: 233
    We had our suspension recall taken care of yesterday. One nice thing is that you get a free loaner SUV (we got an Explorer). That's part of the recall deal.

    It took them half a day to get the work done.

    Consequently - I don't think Saturn is notifying people yet about when to come in for the recall. I think you have to ask. We only had ours done since they offered to do it as we were calling to get an oil change appointment.
  • drivvendrivven Member Posts: 54
    I just took our VUE in this AM for the 18K service and asked the dealership about the recall. The response was that they are beginning to get in the parts but until they're all in, we won't receive the recall notice. Interestingly enough, they have the stickers that go on the door panel that reflect tire pressure, etc. Without seeing the sticker up close they told me the new pressure was to be 35lbs all around. When I got home I found that 3 of the 4 tires had been inflated to this newly recommended pressure. The fourth didn't quite make the grade - about 32 lbs., an operator error I believe.

    So, we'll just have to sit tight until the recall notification comes in the mail.

    Another note of interest. Since our maintenance book was only good for 12K miles, I sent the little form into Saturn for a new book. This was at least 3 months ago. Never got a new one back. I've asked at the dealership and they tell me that HQ has them and to call the 800 number. Well we did, and what did HQ tell us?? The dealership is supposed to hand out something similar to the booklet, only this time it's supposed to be a laminated sheet that tells you what's to be done at what mileage. THAT'S NEWS TO MY DEALERSHIP!

    Someone's really dropped the old procedure ball here, don't you think? Someone's not talking to someone, eh? Anyway, we're caught between the old rock and the hard place because the company doesn't have its act together. Has anyone else encountered this problem?
  • kjhansenkjhansen Member Posts: 11
    My VUE just had the suspension recall work done. It took 2 days instead of the 2 hours the dealer said it would take because the 1st recall kit was missing some pieces and they had to get another. I wish I had looked under my VUE before they did the work, as I seem to remember the rear lower arms (below and to the rear of the rear axle) being made of aluminum. Can someone confirm the previous rear suspension was made of aluminum? The new pieces are made of heavy stamped steel and look much stronger. They also appear to have replaced the rear suspension control arms (front of rear axle) with much heavier pieces. I was pleased to see this as I expected them to simply add some thicker washers or something for a bare minimum fix.
  • harold265harold265 Member Posts: 1
    If anyone has not had the latest RDM installed in your 04 VUE AWD I want to warn you it will without a doubt hurt the operation of your AWD. If you are smart you would refuse the swap. My dealer changed mine and my AWD performance is greatly reduced. I wont let them put it in my wife red line and I am trying to get Saturn to return my RDM to the old specs. Saturn says this RDM is an upgrade but it does not engage the all wheel drive until the front tires spin excessively. I want the performance I had before the RDM change.
  • carguy1234carguy1234 Member Posts: 233
    "Saturn says this RDM is an upgrade but it does not engage the all wheel drive until the front tires spin excessively."

     

    The VUE is know for having a slow reacting AWD system as it is - do you really think it is much worse after the recall? Ours was always slow to respond, front wheels will spin a bit before the rears go. CR even mentions this in their reviews.
  • gjfgjf Member Posts: 2
    I'm having poor gas mileage and suspect it has something to do with the engine running to cool. Mileage is all over the place. I've had as high as 31 on the highway and 22 on the next tank. Driving condiditions were pretty much the same. Can't seem to explain it.
  • gjfgjf Member Posts: 2
    I have a 2004 VUDE with the V6. Great car but the gas mileage is eradict. Hwy I've had as high as 31 and then 24 on the next tank. Driving conditions the same. I've wondered about the operating temperature. It seems to run pretty cool. I've also wondered if it always fills up to the same point. City mileage is worse -- about 15. Lately I'm only getting about 18 overall with a 50/50 mix of city/highway driving. Anybody else have these things happening? The dealer thinks it's just my driving, but I'm pretty conserative.
  • drivvendrivven Member Posts: 54
    I'm glad to see that at least one other owner is experiencing my frustration. The temp gauge does run on the cool side and I think perhaps the cooler running temp just could have an effect on efficiency. Without knowing what the actual operating temp is vs. the optimal operating temp prescribed by Honda for that engine, we'll never know if we're getting full efficiency from the engine.

     

    But gif brings up another good point; the attitude of the vehicle when refilling. I think it has a lot to do with the actual amount being pumped into the tank. Seemingly level pads at filling stations might not be "level". I'm a firm believer in the fact that the attitude of the vehicle about the X axis when filling can certainly affect the amount going into the tank. We have a motor home and to get a max fill on its tank we actually use the built in jacks to tilt the RV away from the pump because we've found that we can get in more fuel in this attitude. We get some strange looks at filling stations with a 35' motor home tilted toward one side!!!

     

    What can we do about this with the VUE? Who knows, but it does seem to be a lot more sensitive to this issue than other vehicles, except the motor home, that we've owned. Undoubtedly this is why you encounter the vast mpg differences between fillups. 31mpg is exciting, but 24 on the next tank can be discouraging. Take the average over a handful of tankfuls and I'm sure you'll arrive at a better, more realistic figure.
  • johnbjohnb Member Posts: 32
    I too have posted several times regarding the mileage of my 2004 4cyl 5sp Saturn VUE.

    I now have over 13k on it and have been meticulously logging each fill-up into a spreadsheet. The average mpg is roughly 22.3 mpg after all this time.

     

    My realistic high has been about 25 and my low around 19-20. Typical Highway is around 23-24. Never even close to the 24/29 on the window sticker.

     

    Alas, I fear I am just destined to have under-achieving gas mileage for as long as this VUE is "in the family".
  • mtenamtena Member Posts: 58
    Interesting developments about Saturn in a recent issue. The roadster is cool, but I'm kinda sorry to read that those beloved Saturn "no ding" polymer panels are going away. They've been a major reason for my choosing Saturn over the years, including my current 2003 VUE. From the magazine:

     

    These new vehicles promise to be a serious upgrade over previous Saturns. Much of the new money GM will spend -- an estimated $800 million -- will go toward converting Saturn's heralded Spring Hill (Tenn.) factory to build steel-body cars instead of today's plastic bodies. (The plastic expands on hot days, so panels must be spaced far apart, giving an appearance of poor construction.)
  • uga91uga91 Member Posts: 1,065
    We have a 2003 ION 2 sedan (our third Saturn after a 1995 SL2 and a 1999 SL2). We normally would want to keep the car longer than this, but we are going to look at a 2005 VUE today. We have three young kids and this vehicle is only used to haul the three of them at the same time in the mornings on the way to school. Any other time we all go somewhere, we use our van. We would like, however, a little more room in the back. With the $1500 GM owner loyalty bonus, there is a total of $3500 in rebates on the VUE right now ($1500 loyalty, $750 or low APR financing, and $1250 or an extended 5 year/60k mi warranty). That makes the VUE very attractive to us. We will probably go with a 4 cylinder FWD model as it will only be used as a commute to work vehicle 90% of the time. I really like the Honda V6, but we only drive the "second car" about 8000 miles a year and I don't think we'd get a whole lot out of the upgrades. We'll see what happens today!
  • uga91uga91 Member Posts: 1,065
    Traded the 2003 ION sedan for a 2005 VUE today. Got a FWD 4 cylinder model. It has plenty of pep for our needs. I know I would have liked having the Honda V6, but the 4 will work fine for us as a commuter vehicle. So far, so good--love the heated seats and the alloys. Also got the roof rack cross bars--they really add a lot to the appearance, IMO. Will follow up as time goes by. My 4th Saturn!
  • drivvendrivven Member Posts: 54
    Just took our '04 FWD V6 in today for the rear suspension recall. I was told up front it would take 2 hours and I'd brought along a book to while away the time. To my amazement they called me after 65 minutes and told me the vehicle was ready. A pleasant experience to say the least. Perhaps it was because I was one of the first ones in at 7AM, or perhaps it was because they didn't appear too busy. Anyway, I was out of there in about the same amount of time for the standard oil change and tire rotation gig.

     

    As I suspected I didn't notice any difference in the ride, but then I didn't make any extremely violent lock-to-lock turns at speed on the way home. What was it again that triggered the recall?
  • uga91uga91 Member Posts: 1,065
    As we wrap up our first week with the 2005 VUE, we are still very happy. Two things that I would have liked to see in the VUE, however, are: rear air vents on back of the center console getting more air to the back--like in the Grand Cherokee. Even the cheapest Grand Cherokee has rear air vents--how expensive could they be? Two, a passenger air bag cut off sensor. I noticed many '05 vehicles--sedans, SUVs and mini vans--have this sensor. Saturn needs to get it on the VUE. Neither is a big deal, just things I'd like to see Saturn work on in the future.
  • mdgirlcherylmdgirlcheryl Member Posts: 3
    Hold on..you have an '04 and already had your recall fixed and I have an '03 and am still waiting for the notice. Does anyone else see a problem with that?
  • drivvendrivven Member Posts: 54
    Yep, we had our recall taken care of last week. Like I said it only took about an hour. I think if you'll check messages 3337 and 3339 on this forum you'll see other VUE owners have had their recalls taken care of too.
  • vanman1vanman1 Member Posts: 1,397
    Is your 4 cyl VUE an auto or standard? I think they don't have the VTi anymore right?
  • uga91uga91 Member Posts: 1,065
    It's a 5 speed. We missed having a manual transmission when we had our ION, so we specifically looked for one. Our 1995 SL2 and 1999 SL2 both had 5 speeds and they were just so much more fun to drive than our automatic equipped 2003 ION 2 sedan. Our dealer had three VUEs with 5 speeds--so we bought the one with the most features.

     

    BTW, I believe the 4 cylinder AWD VUE has the CVT.
  • vanman1vanman1 Member Posts: 1,397
    Ya, it's only the FWD 4 cyl. that went to the 4 speed automatic. I drove a 5-speed when the VUE came out, it was nice and peppy. My wife vetoed it though.
  • bodble2bodble2 Member Posts: 4,514
    The '05 V6 AWD looks enticing because of the Honda engine. Seems like CR-V price with a Pilot motor! Just wondering if the suspension and RDM problems are only on the pre-2005 VUE's? Are the '05's revised to rectify whatever problems they were having?

     

    Also, does the V6 come with just keyless entry and immobilizer, or does it actually have an audible alarm that will go off if someone breaks in? On the website they mention something about content theft protection but wasn't sure exactly what that entails. Is there full protection for all points of entry -- doors, hatch, hood?

     

    Thanks in advance.
  • uga91uga91 Member Posts: 1,065
    Yeah, my wife would only look at 5 speed VUEs. I was the hesitant one at first; but, now a couple of weeks later, I'm very glad we did it.
  • uga91uga91 Member Posts: 1,065
    You know, I have not looked into it that closely--but if it is anything like my old ION, it has an audible alarm. I once used my key to unlock and open the door on the ION, and the alarm went off. Of course, it's not very loud and only goes off for about a minute.

     

    Also, if price is something that is very important to you, consider a FWD over an AWD. Remember, Saturn's AWD is not like on a Subaru--full time four wheel drive where all 4 wheels are always turning. It's like on the Honda CR-V. You run 99.5% of the time in FWD only. The rear wheels only kick in IF the front wheels lose traction (like on a slippery road in the rain). As soon as the front wheels regain traction, the rear wheels turn back off. On dry pavement, you'll never use your rear wheels. VUEs are not off road vehicles like Jeeps or even Chevy trucks. Just something to consider if price is one of your main concerns. Good luck in your search.
  • uga91uga91 Member Posts: 1,065
    I want to say that even though I have had three previous Saturns, the VUE was never on my radar screen. My wife has liked them since they came out. When we were looking to replace the ION for something that will hold out kids better, she's the one that went and checked the VUE. I have found the interior to be much larger than I thought it would be. It is very smooth and, with the manual transmission, fun to drive, in my opinion. I also find it to be a quiet vehicle. When you're not under acceleration, the only noise you hear is from the Bridgestone Dueler tires--not much wind noise or engine noise at all. Anyway, if you've been thinking about a VUE, I would say to go try one. Two and a half weeks with mine has made me happy we got one.
  • bodble2bodble2 Member Posts: 4,514
    Thanks for the info. We do want a AWD vehicle for ski trips, although I have reservations about the VUE's system. We had a CR-V a few years back and found its AWD system not that effective. And I hear the VUE's AWD is even slower to react. We looked at a VUE when they first came out, but at that time we thought the interior was a bit chintzy. I hear the quality has improved in that regard now.
  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    For the 2004 model year, the VUE interior was redesigned. Still a lot of plastics on the console, but the dials are now chrome ringed and are a light golden hue. Nicer, but not the nicest available in the segment, IMO. Didn't stop my wife from getting an '04 AWD V6 last November, however. She liked:

     

    1) the polymer side panels

    2) the acceleration from the 250HP Honda V6

    3) interior space and utility

    4) the "Saturn Experience"
  • uga91uga91 Member Posts: 1,065
    If off road ability for ski trips is important to you, you might try a Forester (full time 4 wheel drive) or something like a Liberty. I would love for you to buy a VUE; but, I would rather see you buy the vehicle that best suits your needs. Again, good luck in your search!
  • uga91uga91 Member Posts: 1,065
    Those things she likes are the best reasons to consider one, IMO. For 2005, Saturn changed the cloth seats again--and I was under the impression the gauges are new as well. I have not seen inside a 2004 to know for sure.
  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    Don't know about the cloth .. wife specifically wanted leather and the heated seats.

     

    Have had our VUE now for just over two months .. I like it quite a bit more than I originally thought. We really wanted an Outback XT, but was hard to justify the price, and we were torn between the Santa Fe and the VUE. VUE won out for the reasons stated in my earlier post.
  • bodble2bodble2 Member Posts: 4,514
    We did consider a Forester. We can live with the slightly dorky styling, but rear seat room was a deal killer. It is also quite pricey for the amenities they give you. I guess the AWD system costs a lot. The new H6 Outback is actually quite nice, but you have to buy the top model to get stability control, and that push the price to in the neighborhood of almost $8K more than a similarly-equipped VUE.

     

    The Mazda6 sportwagon is also on our list, except it doesn't offer AWD.
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