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If you are VERY lucky, you may get the group senior technician if they have one, he or she tends to know a bit more than the average Dealership grease monkey.
My advice would be to find a Honda specialist, not a dealership! Usually a small garage with ageing mechanic who does not have a computer diagnostic system. Look out for loads of Honda's outside!
Hope you sort it.
thanks for any help!
As I said in my last post, dealers don't have a clue - they seem to wait until something goes bang before they say they know what the problem is. This usually means we get to stand at the side of the road until the tow truck arrives!
Had a friend look at it, not a specialist, but has lots of experience with cars. Suggests it may be the timing chain occasionally slapping the side of the housing - if this is the case then I'm happy to keep lowering the revs when I know it's going to do it.
Cheers.
you are not alone. I have the same problem with my CRV. Took to dealer and couldn't show them the problem on site, it just didn't happened at the dealer.
I drove my CRV to the mountain put the snow chain and it didn't want to go over 10 MPH instead it make a roaring noise. Last week I drove to Palm Spring Aerial Tram and it make a scary loud roaring / crackeling noise. I took to dealer today and couldn't duplicate the problem. I'm sure this is related to the same problem since I just bought the car, but the dealer say it's nothing to do with the drive train. Let's see if we can find more people that has the same problem and hire a lawyer that specialized in suing the Car manufacturing that selling a Lemon car but doesn't want to responsible for their customer complains.
I read another post online about having the transmission fluid changed. I did this and also, just because it was time, had the rear differential changed.
The Honda folks had been trying to solve the problem, but the CR-V would not
shake/vibrate for them. I did not tell them why I wanted it changed, I just told
them to do it. They would have probably argued with me that it would not fix the problem. We had checked tires, axles, etc., but found nothing wrong. After they changed transmission fluid (with Honda fluid always), it has not happened again. They were reluctant to do this if it had not been done previously, since they said it can cause more problems, but luckily it had been done previously. I do endorse honda fluids for these cars, except maybe the oil. Everytime I have gone the cheaper route, it has been a mistake. That included brakes for me, but it could have been a mechanic issue on the brakes.
Mine is a 2005 ex CRV. The shakes occurred around 40-50 mph and would last about 5-10 seconds. It was not continuous. Started at 85000 miles, and was not solved until around 100,000 miles. The transmission fluid had been changed about 3000 miles before the shaking started, with what might have been non-Honda fluid. An outside mechanic did the work and I am not sure of their technique or what type of fluid they used. From now on, they get to only change the oil and rotate the tires on my "old reliable crv".
After taking to some others mechanic most of them say my CRV has transmission problem. Inside it has a pump that defective and causing problem to the Transfer case. It cost me a lot of money to fix since Honda doesn't want to responsible. I did a cheap resolution by disassemble the drive shaft. So my CRV is no longer an AWD. The noise is reduced by 90%.
Check your engine mounting, All 4 of them. Replace if you see the rubber broken. Check the pump inside transmission. Replace if necessary. I did all of those. But you can start with the fluid, engine mounting first since they are cheaper. No need original Honda ( except the fluid ). Autozone has better warranty & cheaper.
I took it to the Honda dealer last month. I waited for the shop foreman to come out to the service desk and we went for a little test drive. I told him we won't even have to leave the parking lot. I moved forward to 10 mph and he instantly heard the squeaking. I slowed to a stop and he heard the squeaking again. Now I told him to watch this; after starting out once again, I shifted into neutral and slowed to a stop. No squeaks. I dropped the car off for them to do their own poking around for a few hours.
When I retured about 4 hours later to pick up the vehicle, the mechanic had been on the phone to the Honda Tech Service line trying to get an answer out of Honda as to how he should proceed. Honda apparently spent a few hours huddled with engineers and their answer was that they don't have a clue. They said there have been a few other reports of this happening and they are still running computer simulations on it. In the meanwhile, I just drive my squeaky car until I hear from them.
The service manager believes that Honda will eventually authorize replacing the rear differential which is where the squeak seems to be coming from. But he recalled one done last year where the squeak still persisted. Sounds to me like a case of where the transmission and/or TCM does not get along with certain solenoids in the rear differential. Sounds like a $10,000 squeak to me so no wonder Honda is a little slow in coming up with an answer.
I post any new updates as they happen.
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i called honda but they wanted to charge me a couple of hundred just to check it out, which would then be taken off the repair price. I finally traded it in. one other thing; i noticed that it wouldn't make the sound or at least it wasn't as noticeable when it was raining out. Luckily for me, the day I traded it in it was raining. good luck.
I have seen your two messages on this thread. Can I confirm something?
1. New CRV
2. Creaking noise (sounds more like a soft "wooooonk")
3. Only when coming to a stop or when starting to move from a stop (5-10 mph)
3. Noise coming from rear of the car
4. Noise does not occur when stopping when in NEUTRAL or rolling down a hill from a stop
5. When in "D", keep your foot on the break and step on the gas... you can reproduce the noise consistently right when the engine is spinning up AND when you let off the gas... it makes the noise again when the engine is spinning down
If this sounds like your problem... mine is a 2013 with 4000 miles. I would love to know more about your troubleshooting. Lots of stop and go traffic here in Seattle and this noise is driving me batty!
My dealership thinks it is a vibration (harmonic) issue and I'm starting the process to remove everything from the car that can be removed to rule this out. If you can share your dealership details, I would love my dealership to call yours.
I wrote a letter to American Honda in Torrance, CA and got a phone reply within days. After a few more days of them checking with the dealership service manager and the engineers at the Honda Tech Service division, the current status is to continue to drive the car while they work out a solution. I asked how long that might be and was told they had no idea. I then asked if I was to wait 3 years or 36,000 miles after the warranty had expired to seek a fix. No definite answer was forthcoming and they graciously and single-handedly marked my complaint as "closed".
Finally, myself and American Honda agreed that after 6 months if I had not heard any resolution to the problem, that I was to re-open this complaint.
I don't have a good feeling about this. What happens if and when I go to sell the vehicle and the prospective buyer says, "What the hell is that noise?"
Just imagine the AFLAC duck saying "AFF" but in a slow, low tone. That is the noise that I hear between 0-10 MPH,
There were a few people with this same issue (I suspect) that mentioned the replacement of the differential fixed it. I'm going to ask my dealer to do the same (will let you know how it goes).
Why did honda not do that for you?
Also, you seem very calm. I'm about to go balastic knowing I paid a bucket load of cash for this new car (the dealer did not negotiate as they said the car was so popular... they did not really need to sell it to someone not keen to buy it). Thinking about sharing my story with other customers at the dealership on memorial day. Anyhow... need to know your source of zen.
BTW- where are you located? Would love to know more about who you talked to at Honda. If you're keen to take this offline... let me know and we can coordinate something.
Can you confirm you are having this issue? I think so but made a video just to confirm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFl2Wzr1lDo
I'm curious to hear where you get with Honda. I've worked with American Honda on a different matter with this vehicle and the experience left something to be desired.
PS It doesn't hurt to ask for an "assist" from above in making your choice.
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f1881fd/140#MSG140
do all cr-v's newer model cr-v's do it? i don't know.
do most people hear it with the radio blasting while on the phone? probably not.
is it acceptable operation for a low mileage $28k stickered honda? NO
is the noise a sign of impending failure that will leave you stranded? noisy parts usually aren't good parts, but nobody knows at this point if the motor will eventually fail.
i've owned multiple hondas and they have all been drop dead reliable. the cr-v has me worried as i've had other quality issues with the vehicle besides the differential motor.
don't get me wrong, i really like many aspects of the vehicle. for a cuv it actually looks pretty good when clean. the awd provides great piece of mind on the winter. we also like the rear gate in comparison to other vehicles, larger opening/lower lift height than others.
there are many options out there, many for less with longer warranties. i'm not saying don't get a cr-v, but i'd drive and price all of them. if you live somewhere with no to little snow, it might also be worth considering getting the FWD cr-v and skip the complexity and potential pitfalls of the AWD version.
I'm not sure about the other mfr, all my cars are Honda.
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The noise is probably more annoying that a pointer of impending mechanical failure. Its just that after paying $20 some thousand for a vehicle, you'd expect these little things would have been engineered out. What worries me is that if some day I go to sell the vehicle, I can just hear a prospective buyer saying "What's that sound"!
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What is more troubling about all of this is Honda's cavalier attitude toward a remedy. Some owners have posted repair attempts but the croaking continues. In most cases, including mine, Honda's official attitude has been and continues to be nothing more than "we are aware of the problem and are looking for a solution". Meanwhile, several months later, Honda still remains silent about any proposed solution.
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Anyone care to explore a class action lawsuit agains Honda?
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Thanks for the advice about the assist from above