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The reason I've always changed oil myself is to ensure it's done right. All dealers use entry-level staff for oil and lube work, sometimes these are high school kids working in a co-op work/study plan. Line mechanics do not change oil at dealerships.
Here's the problem I've observed in the past: 1). the sump is quite often overfilled, and 2). the drain plug is over or under torqued. The latter is especially critical when a car has a cast aluminum oil sump. Over torquing the drain plug can crack the sump. Each car has a specified torque spec for the oil drain plug - how many lube specialists at dealers actually use a torque wrench for the oil drain plug. I'll betcha practically zero percent. And, over filling the sump is really harmful, as it leads to oil foaming, with a resultant reduction of lubrication especially in the critical areas of crankshaft main bearings, rod bearings, etc.
This is why I continue to deal with the hassle of DIY oil/filter changes.
Just picked up a '10 Camry LE 4cyl. w/ auto. and considering (possibly) a Platinum or Gold service agreeement.
You pull the original mat's, and put these down in their place. They clip right on to the driver side 'clips', which prevents them from floating around. They work great, have had them in our Camry for 3.5 years now. Even in the clay area we're in, they are great!
I had to get the mats because the car already had them and they claimed the mats could not be removed. I was stuck w/the mats and an upgraded radio or wait another month for a car without these items. At the time (Oct. 1) I was leaving in a week for vacation but it was delayed until tomorrow. I do look forward to the XM radio during my trip.
Let me give you my first-hand experience - I have an 07 Camry with the recalled All-Weather mats. They were recalled because a few people decided to ignore the directions are not use the hooks and/or stack mats on top of one another. Guess what? I am STILL using the recalled All-Weather mats, and in 3 years, they have NEVER moved. My mechanic said the same thing as me.
The WeatherTech mats come with all kinds of directions and warnings to use the hooks and don't use more than one mat. Sounds just like the Toyota owner's manual.
Anyway, just use you mats as per the directions and don't worry about it. Enjoy your car and your trip!
Might look in the owners manual, and see if that is the case.
The bottom line is still this - just use the hooks and use only one floor mat (a correctly-fitting one, like a Toyota mat made for your 2007 through 2010 Camry or a WeatherTech) and you will not have any problems. With the millions of these cars out there, a VERY few high-profile cases has everyone panicking. Of course, in some cases, certain people are hoping that Toyota is at fault. Based on the numbers, the chances of you having a "run-away" car IF you have used the mats properly is less than your chances of hitting the Powerball lottery! I am still betting that there is no problem other than people using the wrong mats or not securing the mats, like the directions tell you to.
I have a 2007 AND a 2010 - I am NOT concerned at all.
Yep, that's the case in a lot of vehicles. No pressing need to see out the top part of the rear window typically...Most viewing I'd think is done out the middle.
But the only DBW car I own also has a clutch.
Remember that majic tricks often work by getting you to look "elsewhere".
Toyota could be doing exactly that.
Wednesday, November 4, 2009 by Brett A. Emison
http://product-liability.lawyers.com/blogs/archives/2625-Toyota-Sudden-Accelerat- ion-Problem-NHTSA-Says-Case-Not-Closed.html
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-fi-toyota-recall8-2009nov08,0,6120294.story-
BUT, the NHTSA said that there has been no evidence of unintentional acceleration ever found. The floor mats are the problem IF they are not secured with the hooks, or you put on on top of another, or use the wrong mat. They still have the case open, and Toyota is coming up with a fix to help the people who choose to not follow directions and/or use common sense with the floor mats.
Bottom line for all drivers of ANY cars: Use the hooks, use the correct mat, and use only one mat. Then, you will not have any problems.
Any opinions????
I find it hard to believe the 2010 Camry XLE V6 is noisy. My prior generation Camrys with 4-cylinder engines are very quiet to my ears.
I need to know if I'm crazy or not!
you really have to decide if you can afford the payments of a Lexus vs a Toyota: if money is no problem then jump on the ES350: it definitely was a little bit more quieter and the materials/fit and finish was better than in the camry, but the camry is still a really nice car for someone on a budget or who just wants a set and forget car to take them from point A to B
no matter how insulated a car is, even such as a Lexus product, your still going to hear a slight bit of wind/road noise when your cruising along an interstate doing 70-80mph!
If you really want to be shocked at a loud noisy car, go test drive a 2007 or 08 Lexus RX400h, if you think the V6 in the Camry was loud, the Lexus was HORRIBLE! It sounded like it wanted to run in every direction except the one it was designed to.
Sorry all you Toyota fans, after owning 2 of them from 07 till just a few months ago, they are not that great of a car anymore.
You really should be in the Midsize forum, not here. That would be like me going on the Fusion forum and telling you how good the Camry is.
I will say that you are one of the few that has this opinion. What about all the reviews, which are not just one person on the net? In general, they say the Camry is one of the quietest for this class.
Often has a LOT to do with tires. My F/awd RX300 runs on nice and quiet, comfortably riding, summer use only, Bridgestone Turanzas throughout the year. Tire chains at the ready when/if needed.
A can of rubberized undercoating discharged onto each tire well liner also helps tremendously.
also, a 4cyl or hybrid powertrain is always going to be louder than a V6 no matter what kind of car you have; the hybrid engines are especially loud and whinny sounding when in use and I'm not sure if that is what some of the other people were referring to
What's the touring package? Is it anything like the Avalon Touring that sharpens handling and firms up the very soft ride?
I am going to test drive the Ford Fusion today but since I live in Chicago I get nervous when I see sport tires on any car or truck.
I forgot completely about the SE being = to "Touring" in Avalon speak. D'uh, grad!!
Quiet, yes. Soft? No. I've driven two current-gen Camry models; an LE-V6 and an SE-V6. The SE was definitely stiffer in the ride department, but I didn't notice either of them being particularly noisy. I drive an Accord though, which tend to be noisier than Toyotas in general.
The sound-deadening shouldn't be different in the two trim levels, I wouldn't think - only the tires, will which make a relatively small difference. The Accord is actually bigger than the Camry, making it a little too large to be something I'd want to replace my '06 Accord with, if I'm choosing a sedan. I'm more concerned with front-seat room, something few cars give me enough of; I'm 6'5" with a 35" inseam though, so not your norm!
Thanks,
Bill
Agreed 100%.
That was exactly my take as well when I test drove both of them. The LE-V6 rode smoother and took bumps a lot better. The SE-V6 was stiffer, and you could "feel" the road more. I drove a Dakota truck before this, and the SE-V6 felt more like that ride. If I could have gotten a "happy medium", I would have gone with that, but since I didn't find something in the middle, I went with the LE-V6.
Wow, that is absolutely amazing.
With all the Toyota Floormat stuff in the news these days, I cannot believe the dealer would give you those mats without the holes, let ALONE the fact that he put the 2nd set of mats on top of the first...
That is just unbelievable!
Maybe you could excuse the average joe not knowing about it, but when a Toyota dealer, whose cars are literally right now, in recall for floormats such as yours, and doesn't either know about the stacking issue, or simply doesn't care, thats just plain frightening.
I don't know if I would go back to the dealer first, or whether I would instead call Toyota right now and tell them about the complete incompetence of your dealer.
Either way, you have a real serious issue here, regardless of what people might think of the recall itself...
Your dealer violated a direct order for the recall when they gave you those hookless mats and put them on top of the existing mats.
I am still flabbergasted at that!
BTW, go check the user comments in the Yahoo Auto to see how many transmission problems this car has.
The transmission in the 2010 Camry doesn't have any problems. People have been saying that when the vehicle is new the tranny seems to hunt for gears/downshift especially when slowing down/coasting. This is supposedly due to the fact that the Camry comes with a fuel shut off feature. Also, when brand new, the vehicle must learn your specific driving style. It might be a few thousand km's/miles before the tranny smooths out. I am not concerned about it at all.
Awaiting parts and repairs for the next two weeks I drove a 2010 XLE 4c Camry back and forth every day. I had heard that the new 2.5L 1AR engine was spectacular in terms of smoothness and fuel economy but I was more than shocked.
For the last 10 years I've been driving the same 150 miles every day on the same route in the same conditions. The speed limit ranges from 35 to 65 with a few stop lights. 85% of it is rural highway, 15% is suburban driving.
I've done it in a ...
'93 Ford Escort, 5m getting about 32 mpg over 30,000 miles
'97 Camry LE, 2.2L 4AT getting about 32 mpg over 130,000 miles
'00 Camry CE, 2.2L 4AT getting about 32 mpg over 70,000 miles
05 Prius getting 47.5 mpg lifetime over 135,000 miles
08 Camry hybrid getting 39 mpg over 1000 miles
07 Highlander hybrid getting 29 mpg over several hundred miles
04 Highlander V6 getting 23 mpg over 2000+ miles
So the 2010 Camry for 1000 miles was a good test of its capabilities. It had already been broken in for 2500 miles.
Initial fillup. From the gas station to the highway is about 10 miles.
...@ a constant 35 mph in suburban driving with no stops.... 44 mpg! HUH??
...stopped at a light to get on the highway then getting onto the highway the display began to fade quickly from 44 to 42 to 40
...but at a constant 55 mph, the speed limit, I could hold the display of the tank average right at 39 mpg.
...every stop and start up was a significant penalty ( City-type driving ).
...the tank average on the display ended up at 38 mpg
Tank #2 with no special efforts at playing with the pedal ala the Prius hypermiler games ended up at 36 mpg
Tank #3 ditto... 36 mpg, but climbing.
What I found interesting was that at a constant cruising type of driving the tank average on the display began to add 0.1 mpg for every 15-20 min that the Camry was being driven. I built it up to 39 mpg several times....then city stop and start driving intervened to drive the tank average down to 36 mpg again. Start all over again.
For me there are two key points here...
These results for me are very equivalent to what I've been able to achieve in the Camry hybrid over 1000 miles of highway driving. The benefit of course in the TCH is that the city driving doesn't penalize the driver as much as it does the driver of the non-hybrid.
The other is that the next Gen TCH - if replacing the 2.4L with the new 1AR 2.5L engine - will very likely have fuel economy ratings almost as good as my 2005 Prius!!!