Toyota 4Runner

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  • scrappy5scrappy5 Member Posts: 4
    To solve the cell phone and radar detector using the cigarette lighter port, I bought a splitter from the auto dept at Walmart for $ 3.99. It's not elegant, but it does the job.
  • kheintz1kheintz1 Member Posts: 213
    I simply bought a 12 volt (10' long) extension cord from Radio Shack (the male end has an on/off switch) and plugged it into the 12V outlet in the rear cargo bay. I then ran this cord forward, along the right side of the cargo bay, then under the Husky floorliner in the back seat, and stowed the female end in the center armrest box. Voila-- an extra 12V outlet, to which a Y-splitter can be added to provide yet another outlet if needed. (But as you know, the truck's electrical outlets are automatically turned off when the ignition is off.) I plug my Escort 8500 radar/lidar detector into the truck's front 12V outlet, and usually use the above mentioned 12V extension cord to charge my cell phone as needed.

    My only complaint about the 12V extension cord is that it tends to rattle and tap against many adjacent hard surfaces along its course towards the front cabin. However, this is easily solved by such strategies as running it underneath carpet mats or floor liners; as well as wrapping the cord with some soft foam tape in noise-prone areas where it can't be buried under mats. etc.

    My Sprint cell phone will accept either a 12V or a 110V recharging cord, so I can also use the 4Runner's 110V outlet (found in the center armrest box) to charge my phone.
  • cooldude2004cooldude2004 Member Posts: 1
    Hi,

    I got a 2004 4Runner SR5 V8; it came with the engine immobilizer and the keyless entry system. This vehicle does not come with an upgrade alarm system and I'm thinking of installing the Toyota RS3200 Plus alarm system part number 08586-3D870.

    Can anyone comment on this alarm system (what features it has on it) or any other recommended alarm system to install on the 2004 4Runners?

    Before I bought this SUV, I'm surprise that I could not find anywhere in Houston Texas for a 2004 4Runner SR5 V8 with an alarm system option.

    Thanks
  • whitney8whitney8 Member Posts: 31
    Cooldude,
    As posted by Corancher, the alarm comes factory installed on all 4Rs. Go To Msg #367 on the Aftermarket & Accessories page, and then read the follow on messages too.
    -Whitney
  • kjack100kjack100 Member Posts: 133
    "3.01" version means "2003, first edition". In previous discussions, no one has ever mentioned a .02 version so I doubt they exist. Your 4Runner was probably built late '03, hence why you would have the '03 version. There is very little difference in the '02 and '03, so I wouldn't think there would be much of a difference from '03 to '04. Enjoy.
  • glb2glb2 Member Posts: 14
    The RS3200 is standard on the Limited model.
    It is an option on the SR5 and just needs to be activated. My '04 SR5 came with keyless entry and engine immobilizer but didn't sound a warning or flash lights. Now, with the RS3200 it will sound a warning when you tap on the glass with your keys. This simulates a breakin. Also, there are ways to program it to your needs. There is also a guarantee to pay your insurance deductible if it is stolen.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
  • whitney8whitney8 Member Posts: 31
    Steve,
    Thank you. I wasn't clever enough to post the link to corancher's post.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Right click on the post number and copy/paste (in Windows). At least it usually works, lol.

    Steve, Host
  • oldnavycdroldnavycdr Member Posts: 17
    Could someone point me to some strings on the possible use of synthetic oil in my '03 Runner? Good idea? Bad idea? What is the scoop?
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Engine Oil - A slippery subject Part 2 and Synthetic motor oil cover the oil wars pretty thoroughly.

    Steve, Host
  • md4runnermanmd4runnerman Member Posts: 72
    I am new at this. I have never had a vehicle with the spare under it. Anyhow, the owners manual is useless as far as what to do. This is what I managed to do so far. After finding the nut which lowers the tire, which by the way was like a cr@pshoot in the dark just finding it with the extensions, I lowered the tire almost to the ground. It seemed to be swinging freely by a thread (cable) as it was being lowered. The owners manually casually says to remove the tire from the tire bracket after lowering it, but I don't really know the first thing what to do. The owners manual says no more about the subject than what I just wrote. Can someone please give me step by step instructions on how to go about releasing the tire from the tire bracket so I can remove. I don't know what would happen if I got a flat tire and I couldn't get it off the cable thing. I also need to put air in it which is why I was experimenting with it in the first place. Thanks, and by the way, I have a 2004 4runner V8 Limited if it matters. Thanks in advance.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    If it's like most setups, loosen the cable all the way. The tire will be on the ground and there should be some slack in the cable. There should be enough slack to let you pull the tire away from the vehicle a foot or two.

    Usually the cable end is attached to a metal plate (the "bracket"_ that snugs against the hole in the wheel. Sometimes this plate adheres to the wheel due to mud and dirt getting in there, but it should pop free easily with a tap of your lug wrench.

    So you get the tire on the ground and pop the cable end free of the wheel, and then turn the cable end metal piece so that it slips through the hole in the wheel. Installation is just the reverse.

    That's the generic version that I'm familiar with. Hope this makes sense!

    Steve, Host
  • kheintz1kheintz1 Member Posts: 213
    I purchased my new '03, V8 4Runner Limited about six months ago, and I've been logging >2000 miles/month so far. The odomoter currently reads ~12,700 miles. I rely on my dealer to perform all of the maintenance on my truck, and they use Quaker State 5W-30 natural oil. At the next oil change (15,000 miles), I've decided to begin using Quaker State Full Synthetic (5W-30) motor oil. I'm doing so for several reasons, including 1) I'm curious as to whether I'll actually notice improved performance; 2) I'm logging a fairly high number of miles/month on my vehicle, and I've been feeling increasingly uneasy about driving 5000 miles between oil changes with natural or "dino" oil; 3) Because my truck's engine has been receiving Quaker State oil from nearly the outset, my thinking is that if I'm going to change to a full synthetic oil, I would rather use a (synthetic) product from within the Quaker State line of products, since this may offer the best compatibility in terms of additives, etc.

    My dealer has reassured me that it is completely safe and acceptable to switch to a full synthetic oil at the 15,000 mile mark, and in fact he encouraged it. (My dealer doesn't currently sell synthetic oils, but they will gladly install these oils for those customers who bring their own supply.)
  • md4runnermanmd4runnerman Member Posts: 72
    Steve, thanks so much for your information. Your post was very easy to understand, I only wish the 4Runner owners manual explained it as well as you. I finished removing the spare tire this afternoon, took it down to the station to put air in it, and reinstalled it under the vehicle. And the best thing is my "low tire pressure warning light " on the dash went out! That's because the spare only had 25 psi in it and it needs at least 32. Well, at least I know the warning light is doing what it is supposed to. It had been lit since I bought the 4runner about 2 weeks ago. The only difference in my experience from what you wrote had to do with the amount of cable slack. I could not pull the tire totally out from under the vehicle at all. As a matter of fact the cable was stretched to the max when the outermost part of the tire was about even with the back bumper. Anyhow, thanks again for your prompt response! This is a great message board!
  • bigfurbigfur Member Posts: 649
    Maybe this topic has been covered but i dont have time to read thru 10,000 posts. My friend has 97 4Runner and is looking for about a 3" body lift for it, but no one makes on. What gives???
  • sivisivi Member Posts: 20
    do you pick up any additional storage by not having 3rd row seat.
  • bcmalibu99lsbcmalibu99ls Member Posts: 625
    Now that American gas stations universally started selling gasoline with lowered sulphur content, those 4Runner owners who suffered from serious sulphur stink - do you see any difference in the frequency and/or intensity of the smell?

    Many thank yous!
  • terrafirmaterrafirma Member Posts: 212
    It is designed to unwind straight down, release the cable and then pull the free tire out from under.

    It isn't ideal but it's the same system in every truck that holds the spare tire underneath.

    It's easy once you know how to do it but the first time can be a pain in the rear, as you found out.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    I guess the setup on my minivan employs a slightly longer cable (to make up for less clearance?).

    Also, I think there's a preferred orientation of the tire when you replace the spare on the bracket/cable (valve stem down?).

    Steve, Host
  • hotelsevenhotelseven Member Posts: 33
    I have heard that here in Canada, all gasoline companies must drastically reduce all of their sulphur contents in their gasolines by the end of 2004. Has anyone else heard something along these lines, or am I way out to lunch?
  • loinvaloinva Member Posts: 4
    I get conflicting data on this issue.
    Do the 2004 4Runner V6's and/or V8's require premium fuel? This is a big decision maker for me.
    Thanks!
  • sacstate1sacstate1 Member Posts: 189
    'Do the 2004 4Runner V6's and/or V8's require premium fuel?'

    For premium engine performance, yes. Some owners run 87 with no problem. I have never filled up with anything other than Premium, I have the V8.
  • pat84pat84 Member Posts: 817
    I've run my 03 Sport V-8 on 87 Octane almost exclusively. I have almost 17 K trouble free miles on it. I have never had a pinging or any other engine problem.
  • mdpdretiredmdpdretired Member Posts: 5
    I just purchased an 04 Limited V8. The salesman assurred me that at my altitude, sea level, 87 Octane will work without problem. I am only on my third tank of fuel, but no problems to this point.
  • kheintz1kheintz1 Member Posts: 213
    Have a look at message #9233 for some speculative thoughts regarding the fuel issue.

    Like Sacstate1, I prefer to run premium grade (91-93 octane) fuel in my '03 V8 4Runner Limited, since this is what Toyota recommends for the best engine performance, and I'm willing to bear the added cost. On the other hand, there seem to be many 4Runner drivers at this forum who are reporting good results (thus far) with lower octane fuels, so you be the judge.
  • kullenbergkullenberg Member Posts: 283
    Your salesman's premise is faulty; octane requirement actually goes down as altitude increases; thus, at sea level the octane requirement would be greatest. Another example of car salesman ignorance!
    Cheers
    Pat
  • beanctrbeanctr Member Posts: 99
    My recommendation is to take a look at an owners manual at the dealer. I have been shopping the 4runner and the issue of fuel grade was an issue for me too. I went to a dealership and asked to see the owner manual. Basically it stated that 87 Octane is ok to use, but for "increased vehicle performance" use 91 Octane. Your guess is as good as mine as to what "increased vehicle performance" means. Does it mean better 0-60 time, does it mean better MPG, does it mean no pinging . . .
  • bankeizenbankeizen Member Posts: 46
    I can't figure out what all this discussion is about. Experiment and discover what works best for you, your car and your driving habits. I have done this periodically with my suv and discovered that it has more power and gets more mileage with premium, 91. The manual says regular is the proper grade. But my actual expereince is what talks to me.

    Fill a few tankfulls with different grades and see what happens. Then all this speculation is unnecessary. Let expereince be your teacher.
  • loinvaloinva Member Posts: 4
    The reason this post started was b/c I am shopping for a new SUV. Some manufs now REQUIRE premium gas due to so called engine design. The specs on Toyota's website do not state gas requirements. Edmunds showed Premium, Cons Rpts showed Reg. I posted this so owners could tell me what they know, instead of getting the info from a dealer. Thanks for everyone's knowledge.
  • rogers12rogers12 Member Posts: 140
    You will not normally get pinging from these engines with 87 octane gas. The detonation sensor will not allow pinging to continue. It prevents pinging with 87 octane gas by signaling the computer to retard the ignition timing until the pinging goes away.

    If your ignition timing is retarded by detection of pinging, your power and mileage will suffer. Above a specific octane which permits maximum ignition advance, no performance increase will be seen. From their statements, it is apparent that Toyota expects ignition timing to be retarded by 87 octane gas, but no pinging since it is prevented by the preignition sensor.

    In my vehicles, I use the lowest octane gas that permits optimum performance (maximum ignition advance). When towing, I need to go to premium to prevent retarded ignition timing on anything but dead-flat highways. Hillclimbing or strenuous off-road driving would also benefit by using highest-available octane to maintain your power (advanced ignition timing).

    Don't expect that you can determine your octane needs by idling the engine and checking the timing advance. It is under load (accelerating from stop lights, hilly driving or towing) that the real test of octane requirement is provided.

    I have been told that you can measure your gas mileage on the highway and see the difference in gas mileage between high-octane and inadequate gasoline. If you only need 91 octane on the highway, for example, using 93 octane gas will not show any improvement in gas mileage over 91 octane gas. You should see a significant decrease in gas mileage if you use 87 octane under these circumstances.
  • pat84pat84 Member Posts: 817
    I have used a few tanks of 91 octane. The variation in gas mileage was within the average I get with 87 octane. The type of gas (shell, Exxon, Citgo, etc ) makes more of a diffences in mileage than 91 vs 87.
      I actually divide the miles driven by the gallons at each fill up. The gas mileage computer on the dash is almost 2 MPG higher than actual gas mileage.
  • glb5glb5 Member Posts: 39
    Has anyone out there had any luck getting the computer that reads out the MPG (which is always high by 2 mpg)fixed as well as the outside temp guage (which is so slow to react after sitting in a warm garage , to say nothing of it being incorrect, about 4 to 5 degrees high even after driving for 15 to 20 minutes)or are these just things we will have to look the other way on, if these new 4 runners were chevys we would be complaining to no end but being toyotas we all tend to look the other way.
  • kheintz1kheintz1 Member Posts: 213
    The owner's manual for my '03, V8 4Runner recommends 91 octane fuel. In addition, I happen to have a copy of the "Product Knowledge Booklet" for the '03 4Runner (a product-overview learning module from "University of Toyota" intended for Toyota service advisors and technicians) and on pp. 5 and 6, it states that the "fuel requirement" is 91 octane for both the 1GR-FE (V6) and 2UZ-FE (V8) engines.

    I've not based MY choice of fuel grade on what my dealer has told me; rather, I've based it on what's been advised in the printed materials mentioned above. That said, one of my dealer's Toyota technicians happens to be the proud owner of an '03, V8 4Runner Sport, and when asked, he's told me that he too prefers to feed his truck 91 octane fuel. Why? He said that the high-performance, i-Force V8 has been on the market for many years now, and that in the long-term, they've tended to see the fewest problems when high octane, high-quality fuels are consistently used with this engine.

    For those of you who are so far enjoying good results with lower octane fuels, I think that's great. Loinva asked for opinions regarding fuel grade, and I offered mine-- take it or leave it. As a consumer I've found that in general, it's often wise to adhere to instructions found in owner's manuals, but your experiences may differ.

    There are plenty of unscrupulous, uncaring, and/or ill-informed car/truck sales persons who may tell a consumer whatever he/she wants to hear in order to make a sale. Indeed, they're more likely to make a sale if they tell the prospective buyer that these engines will happily run on the cheapest fuel available. In my humble opinion, if a prospective 4Runner owner accurately and honestly assesses their own finances and monthly cashflow, and then finds that their financial margins are so tight that they're sweating over the real or potential cost of fueling the vehicle with even the least expensive grade of fuel, then they may be wanting a vehicle they can't realistically afford. As the old saying goes, "Buy in haste, repent at leisure..." In other words, if you can't EASILY afford to feed these gas-hungry SUVs during a volatile and currently rising (and unpredictable) fuel market, then you are probably wanting to drink champagne on a beer wallet. If your financial margins are so tight that the grade of fuel is a deciding factor, then you might need a keeper. :)
  • terrafirmaterrafirma Member Posts: 212
    There is only one way to mount the spare tire. When you see the mounting plate, it is self-explanitory.

    91 is not required. The manual says you can use regular gas. I use 89 with no problems and good mileage.
  • beercoll1beercoll1 Member Posts: 88
    03 4-runner v8 sport
    driven 1 year - 19400 miles
    87 octane
    @14mpg strictly city driving
    @17mpg mixed

    I have had no problems with my 4-runner using regular gas.
  • ltc9024ltc9024 Member Posts: 11
    Yes, all members who think that 91 should be used. IF 91 was needed the wording would
    be "REQUIRED" not RECOMMENDED as it says. Mine runs just fine on 87 and I love the savings. Spend your money as you see fit!!!!!!
  • gleo2gleo2 Member Posts: 3
    Octane will only effect your mileage if you have 2 throttle positions full on and full off. I used to design engines and typically I could take a badly knocking 220hp engine and eliminate the knock by retarding out about 2-3hp. The only place I ever saw knock was at full throttle. You will never have any difference in your on highway timing or even half-3/4 throttle timing by using 87 octane vs 91. Thus you will never see a real mileage difference. Most people will have more mental hp increase than real by using the 91 octane. A lot like getting new shoes as a child you always thought you could run a lot faster. As I said It does not take much to get the knock down. Not to mention non direct injected engines can't be "mapped down much in hp before they run bad and would not have good emissions as a result.
  • baki44baki44 Member Posts: 24
    I wonder you guys are living in the real world or some kind of....world ???? I don't have a time balance my check book but I'm having alot of fun to read this OCTANE discussion. Got please help all 4runner owners...so they can buy the correct octane...
  • terrafirmaterrafirma Member Posts: 212
    I think you are living in a ...world???
    because I cannot understand what you saying. It looks like english but there is not one real sentence in it.

    Here in the real world, owners want clarification on a simple gas issue for their 4Runner. If you need to read about something else, there are 479 other pages you can go through.
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    I think octane ratings are a little closer to the topic than interest in balancing one's checkbook.

    We can all do without the sniping.

    tidester, host
  • mitchinpamitchinpa Member Posts: 40
    Hello all

    Long time reader, infrequent poster here. I do have a 2 questions tho. First, what is a fair price for the recommended 60000 mile service from Toyota for my 2000 4Runner? Second, one dealer mentioned replacing my timing belt every 60000 miles, but I can not find information to verify which mileage interval is recommended for changing it. Any and all help will be appreciated.
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    Check out the Maintenance Schedule.

    tidester, host
  • baki44baki44 Member Posts: 24
    terrafirma... What I’m saying is this OCTANE / GRADE issue is not clear...as far as I see no black or white, a lot of gray areas...everybody has different opinion...it is not one size fits all...relax.
    but I will give you a credit “you are the best”
  • servo_fanservo_fan Member Posts: 15
    Not to disparage all of the good information on Edmunds.com, but the maintenance schedules should be taken with a grain of salt.

    For example, for one of my cars it has oil changes every 3000 miles, when the owners manual recommends every 7500 miles under normal driving. (I'm not trying to start another oil change thread, just using as an example) ;-)

    Perhaps the Edmunds schedule is based on severe driving? Do the hosts have any idea on where these schedules come from?
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    My understanding is that they are basically the manufacturer's maintenance schedules.

    tidester, host
  • terrafirmaterrafirma Member Posts: 212
    Edmunds must have generic maintenance schedules.
    Remember that snafu with the timing belts? Edmunds schedule said the V6 needed to be changed when in actuality the V6 has a timing chain that never needs replacing. The V8 is the one that needs a belt change.

    I think the factory manual is a good indicator of the requirements. In the factory manual, regular gas is perfectly acceptable. 91 is only required if you experience knocking, such as at high altitudes.
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