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He is not sure about when the website will be back online. He had just gotten his power back at his house in Kinston when I called a few minutes ago. The server is at his computer shop in Opp, and downtown Opp is still without power. He said the power company is telling people that ask when the power will be back on that it will be anywhere from "3 hours to 3 weeks."
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
-Paul
-twylie
PS - I agree that the move to grey flares and tops is not a great one. Black is timeless and goes with everything
My color choice would definitely be different next year. I really like the bright green with the black but think it would look terrible with the grey. Same for most colors except for white - I thought that looked nice. Of course, my flares will be pretty grey in a couple of years - they certainly are on my Noble Black Steed. While it doesn't look as monotone and sharp as it did before, I don't think it looks horrible.
It's been interesting getting this green Unlimited. The dealers keep telling me how unpopular the color is, so then I started wondering if I am crazy to be getting it. Maybe I should have gotten the light khaki. But I love Wranglers in bright colors - it is one of the few vehicles that I think look good in them. And I really like it - there was one parked at the front of Camp Jeep so I had a chance to look at it numerous times for 3 days. Each time I passed it, I looked at it and remarked how good it looked.
I've left a deposit for the dealership to get it from the other dealership, so I'm committed. They should get it this evening so I'll pick it up in the morning.
Tom - Hope you don't get drenched with left-over Ivan rain too badly. Now everyone gets to wonder what will happen with Hurricane Jeanne. Meanwhile I'm living in the land of perpetual sunshine, it seems. Sure wish winter would hurry up and get here, though now that a Wrangler is going to be my daily driver, I guess it doesn't matter when winter comes.
Has Bama checked in lately by the way? Looking to be a damp Fall in the South.
Steve, Host
mtngal, yep I'm back. Don't let the dealer talk you out of the color you want. They are just concerned about selling it if you back out of the deal.
-Paul
I haven't let them talk me out of the color - I've given them a big deposit to get it and unless it is messed up, it will be in my driveway tomorrow night! I can't wait - I'm finally getting my soft top!
Of course, we are gonna need pics!
Be sure and post tomorrow night and let us know how everything went.
I think I like that Electric Lime Green too, if that is the color you are talking about. I was shocked by it at first and didn't think I would want any part of it, but I have never seen one in person. I am liking the pics of them better all the time. Sure wish I could see one up close and personal.
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
And just think - I won't have to worry about forgetting where I parked next year at Camp Jeep. It won't be just another black Wrangler in a sea of black Wranglers! I know I won't have much competition - I'm buying the only one left in SoCal!
:--)
Tomster
People complained ( I guess ) that the pretty black flares faded to an ugly gray color. So, DC sees the logical thing to do is to make the flares the ugly gray color to start with.
GAG A MAGGOT! YUCK! YUCK! YUCK!
BRING BACK THE BLACK
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
The only reason that I can think of why they have gone to the grey is that they couldn't figure out how to keep the black flares black. They figured they would be forever fighting with people, so they are temporarily going with the grey to avoid future problems.
I don't think the grey is bad with white. I'm not sure I would mind it so much with black - I'm kind of tired of the monochrome black look and haven't bothered doing anything about my now-grey flares.
On most other colors I think it is going to be the grey top that bothers me the most. I would have preferred them go to a brown top and flares for most colors. In some ways I was disappointed that they had discontinued the dark green exterior with brown interior combination a while ago - I thought that was sharp and I'm sort of tired of the black/dark grey interior at the moment. But not enough to get something else (obviously).
mtngal, congrats on the Unlimited. Going to be a 2 Jeep family like us. Although, our other is Jeep is a Grand Cherokee.
Yours in Jeep Coolness,
Dave
P.S. I guess one option is to keep it covered in mud all the time! :-)
Although not quite as light as the gray that black flares fade to, the new flares are much lighter in color than your flares, Dave.
What was wrong with the black flares? When they faded, if people were all that worried about it, they could bring the black back by various means.
GEEZ!
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
My question is what is the easiest way to wire the permanent 12 volt power supply? I'm thinking of tapping into the "Switched" wire behind the glove box. Would there be any problem doing that? I've never done in wiring in a car before besides speakers, so this all new to me. I would hate to burn up my electrical system!
You can order OEM replacement flares from places like 4wd.com for 115.00 or so and they are black. That is what I have on my TJ and I suspect the flares are the same on the Unlimited as what is put on a standard TJ.
-Paul
Yours in Jeep Coolness,
Dave
I know you must be excited about the new ride! I bought mine sight unseen on a Monday night after they located exactly what I wanted at another dealer. They had the right color and all options I was looking for so I didn't have to order it, but it still took another two days before I could get it. I nearly went crazy! To this day, when I'm padding around the house I go out to the garage and take a peek.
Well, by my watch, you should have that Unlimited by now-Congratulations! I remember when I got mine they had to bring it in from another dealership, and they wouldn't have it ready until the next day. I waited until late in the day when the dealership was closed and I was sure it should be there, then the wife and I drove over to make sure it had "gotten there okay". It was so exciting to see it sitting there, even though I couldn't get in it or drive it! I'll admit I'm not too sure about that Lime Green color, but I can't wait for you to post some pics! Any mods planned?
Marcus
He said he wouldn't be surprised if DC backs off of that idea before the 05 model year ends.
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Everyone at work has admired it, even in the dark parking structure. I can't quite believe it is mine.
My dealership also had to get it from another dealership about 100 miles away. It was the only Lime Green Unlimited soft top in SoCal. So the first time I saw it was when I pulled into the parking lot and parked behind it today. The first thing I noticed was the front. There was chrome around the grille, which I hadn't noticed on any other Unlimited that I had seen. The original dealership had added it on, but hadn't told my dealership before the trade. We had already agreed on the price and my dealership stuck by the price they originally quoted me. I'm delighted because I really like that extra bit of chrome on the front - it dresses it up. I'll post some photos tonight.
Can you see my beaming smile back east? It hasn't gone away since I got behind the wheel.
Maybe you can cruise by Edmunds.com's headquarters there in Santa Monica a few times and blow your horn :-)
Steve, Host
Yeeeeeeeeeeeehawwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
tidester, host
jeff
i had to remove the factory tow hook to put the hitch on. i saw on the warn site they sell "shackle bracket" http://www.warn.com/truck/accessories/shackle.shtml to use as a tow point from the receiver hitch. the hitch is rated at 3500 #s, question for those that have seen more vehicles pulled out of mud holes / creeks / rivers than I have, is the hitch strong enough or do i need to rig something else up. (not planning to get stuck anytime again soon, but want to be prepared if I am)
jeff
ps,, I like the bright green!!
I think you should be OK. The hitch mounts to the frame, right? And the shackle bracket goes right into the receiver of the hitch. As long as the frame is taking the load when you are being pulled out, you should be OK.
It is sometimes necessary to "jerk" a badly stuck vehicle out of the mud, so the shock load should be taken into account.
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
However, are you sure you have a Class III 2" receiver in the hitch you fitted? If it's rated at 3500lbs it may be a smaller Class I or II.
jeff
Does anyone have a link to pics of the 2005 unlimited. I am very curious to see what the gray flares look like as well as any of the other cosmetic changes.
Thanks,
Jeff
Actually, it's more likely that the hitch will bend if you need a heavy 'snatch' to pull you out, than the bolts will fail.
However, you should measure the size of the receiver to see if the 2" Warn insert will fit.
mac24 Aug 21, 2004 1:25pm
are they rating the hitches to align with the vehicles rating??
jeff
bought the hitch not knowing it would require taking off the tow hook or I would have kept looking for different hitch, or better yet convinced myself to get a different bumper with the receiver incorporated into the bumper. Whats up with those cheap / cheesey end caps on the factory bumper? the rest of the jeep is so well built then they put those things on there.
oh yeah,, and I bought a CB on Ebay tonight, the highly recommended (by Paul) Cobra 75WXST; Tom, 3 weeks ago when i was asking all the questions about buying a jeep, why didn't you tell me I'd be spending so much on all the extras???
http://community.webshots.com/album/188823439kZLZAP?281
It was cloudy (marine layer never really burned off) so the color is a hair more blue than it really is. Hopefully tomorrow's photos will be better.
I found out one of the ways they have made the Unlimited quieter - they have added fairly thick padding to the carpet (there isn't any on my NBS). The back carpet didn't fit on mine - it was a bit short, so the dealer swapped it out with carpet from another one on their lot (an advantage for one color interiors), and I took a good look at it while we were changing it out.
The soft top is definitely hard to manage. The person showing me how the top folded back fixed it that way while we were signing our life away, then showed us how to put the part by the doors into the channel. I tried to take it out and couldn't get it off! It's going to take a while to get used to it.
The soft top Unlimited is both quieter and noisier than my '98 hard top Sport. It doesn't have as much road noise (tires, engine), but I hear traffic around me more. It isn't necessarily a bad thing - it is easier to tell what is around me.
I like the automatic - it is still geared low in first so I can just creep along in slow-n-go traffic and not use my brakes much. The tranny is very smooth but it did go in and out of overdrive more than I liked going up the Grapevine. I used the switch to turn it off on the steepest parts. Looks like a tranny cooler is going to be a good idea.
I LOVE the auto dimming mirror with compass and temperature. It was fun to watch the temperature go from 89 down to 68 at the house. And there are lights on it! I was really surprised by the internal lights in the Unlimited - SO much better than the Sport! I'm just now starting to read the owners manual to figure out all the changes to the controls (there are more than I expected - great fun!).
Your comment about coming in / out of overdrive was exactly the opposite of my initial feelings about the tranny. My 4 runner would bounce in / out of OD all the time I was so happy when I was driving the jeep home from the dealership and it didn’t shift down coming up out of the river bottoms though the cut in the bluff.
jeff
Undoubtedly, probably after legal advice. Don't get me started on that subject!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I use heavy duty Olympic bumpers, front and rear, with integrated receivers. Gives me lots of options.
-twylie
The mechanical components of the Wrangler are quite capable, witness the Unlimited's 3500lb rating, it's the wheelbase that worries the lawyers.
Should you dare to exceed the 2000lb limit here in the US, even with a low profile correctly balanced braked trailer, you run the risk of a fine, denial of insurance coverage and severe financial exposure should you happen to be involved in an accident, even if it's not of your own making.
A vehicle/trailer combination that's perfectly safe and legal in most parts of the world suddenly becomes an illegal deathtrap when it turns a wheel on an Americaqn highway!
(Hmmm........ I think I said something previously about not getting me started!)
;--)
A base SE comes standard with the 2.4L I-4 engine and six speed manual transmission. However, when the four speed automatic is specified as an option the package includes the 4.0L I-6.
Per Edmunds new car pricing, this option would appear to cost $2,105 and you would still have an SE trim level Wrangler. Will they be ditching the 4 cyl and SE completely next year?
I wish my wife like the Wrangler as much as I do The other night I picked her up at the train station because she was sick. On the ride home she said to me, “I know you love this vehicle, but it really sucks when you are sick.” I told her (very sympathetically), “I wouldn’t know, I don’t drive it when I am sick.” I am glade I have a wife who loves me.
mtgal: I know what you mean about the Santa Monica area. I lived in Mar Vista (near the 405 and Washington Blvd) for 1 year to the day I could not wait to move out of LA. The traffic, the noise, and the fact that someone tried to still my car twice (once out of my parking garage) did not make it an enjoyable place to live.
Glen
Some more impressions - we found out that the sentry key system works - the second key didn't work this morning. I finally let my other half drive this morning. We had left the Sport at work last night so we only had one car at the house, and we were leaving early this morning to do the American Heart Association walk and pick up the other Jeep. He started the car, it ran for a couple of seconds and shut off. Initial panic - what's wrong with our brand new car!?! Then I remembered the owners manual said this was normal for an unprogrammed key. So not only did the other dealership stick my dealership with a carpet that was cut wrong, but they had probably lost the key and while they cut a new one, they didn't bother to program it! A quick trip to my dealership (since we were already in West LA) and both keys now work.
We watched the video (excellent source of information) and then, using the book, we figured out how to use the sunrider option on the Unlimited. Very nice, though 68 is a bit cool for sunroof driving. I think that I'll probably use this more than going completely topless. And I'm not sure what all the straps they give you are for, though I did figure out which one to use for the sunroof right away.
The soft top Unlimited is MUCH better than a hard top Sport in the wind. It is more stable all the way around and so much easier both in the city and on the highway. It seems quite a bit thirstier than the Sport - the first tank was only 16 mpg. I sure hope it gets better as time goes on. Granted, this tank had more city driving than usual, and there are only 350 miles on it (137 miles when I got it - they drove it from the other dealership).
What do others do to keep their extra straps in one place? I'm probably just going to use a ziplock bag in the side pocket, but wondered if anyone had come up with a better way of doing it.