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Chevrolet Aveo Maintenance and Repair
singer44730
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Hi I got a 2004 Aveo like couple weeks ago and Now I am having engine trouble because my check engine light is blanking and it is missing bad(Miss Firer).I took it to a garage and the guy put a scope on it and here are the codes: PO300,P1781 and cylindar #1 aint getting no compassion and I replace the spark plugs and spark wires and it is still missing.Also my car has hardly no power at all.Need help?Heres my email Singer44730@yahoo.com
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i own a '04 Aveo LS with 59K miles and that just happened 6 days ago
the service advisor said that it's something that 'just happened'
i was on my way to work and as i came to a stop exiting the freeway, steam/smoke just poured out from under my hood
i got myself towed to the dealer, and days later they told me what had happened, and asked if i was overheated when it happened. I was not. I always watch my gauges, and that was acutally the first thing i looked at when the steam was coming out. I was sitting on neutral on the temp gauge.
so i cant just seem to settle with the fact that the housing just cracked out of nowhere.
i want to see if this is a common problem
i have had SEVERAL problems with this particular car since purchasing it in '04 new.
hope someone can help
I figured I blew the ratiator.. but noticed the hose a bit later after I stoped crying.
It an 04' Aveo with 48k. I thought it might have been my abuse on the car but Its a problem the aveo has.. I feel bad for the blue hatchback Aveo behind me.. they laughed. But they dont know.. they are next!! muu-hahahaha
My thermostat housing went at almost exactly 59,000 miles. I was on my way to the dealer anyway for an unrelated problem and maintenance. So, I was about half-way there when a big puff of white smoke surrounded my car. I pulled over right away and, at first, thought it was a hose. Since I was near about 3 auto parts stores, I was hoping that I could just get a new hose. But, I saw that it was a cracked housing and had to have it towed because only the dealer has that part.
I guess I should be glad that I read this thread because it didn't upset me nearly as much as it would have otherwise.
I asked for a metal housing (and I was willing to pay extra because I pass through the desert in the summer all the time), but they didn't make any. I noticed the day or two before something that looked like a leak at the seam, but I didn't see any coolant anywhere.
Help? what can be done to make the cheverlote company fix this problem. I have been readind other chevy. Aveo owners storys and they are like mine or similiar, this sounds like it should have been a recall.
What can be done?
I seriously think we should try to get GM or some other company to produce a metal thermostat housing. I don't know why this one was made with plastic, but it was a dumb idea. Maybe by the time they make aftermarket parts for this car, they will have a choice of a metal one.
GM for buying Daewoo. It was just greediness. I thought I had a brand new American, not a freaking Korean junk.
I see you are new here since last month while I have been here 2-years and these are all new recent post issues. This is the cars 4th year here in the states not its first.
You need to chill out here!
OK, so you have had the thermostat housing problem, and its made of plastic. And, you would prefer that it be made from a stronger material.
Poncho167 didn't cause the failure...He was simply attempting to assist you by making suggestions as to what he might do in the same circumstances...
You may want to talk with the service manager at your local dealer to see if he has had any in for this problem. Other than maybe three people here I don't recall ever reading about a thermostat problem on this car here or any other forum/blog.
If this was anywhere the problem that you think it is, this forum would be covered up in postings about it. Don't believe it? Check out the transmission issues on the Toyota Camry forum. If there are widespread issues with a top selling automobile, Edmunds would be the place to "vocalize" them.
Now, I had an 05 Aveo hatchback as well, and no, I wasn't very happy with the car, and yes, I traded it. However, the one thing that I positively complemented the Aveo on was its drivetrain reliability, even though I thought (and still do) that is was a bit out-dated.
So, if you don't like the car/part/whatever, go take your frustrations out on the dealer and/or manufacturer. There is absolutely no reason to be a "jerk" to someone who is only trying to help.
By the way, did you ever do what Poncho suggested, and discuss the issue with the dealer? Or would you rather just be miserable and sit around bitching about it?
Have the timing belt checked at 30K miles, and have it replaced at 60K miles. Apparently the engine can get damaged if the belt broke.
Since warranty on the belt expired at the first maintenance service interval, apparently, unless it broke before 60K, you are on your own paying for it and any damages it causes.
Any comments?
I could possibly understand the 60K mile replacement demand, but the 30K inspection demand? That's like an additional $750.00-1000.00 additional cost to keep the warranty in effect!
Is that correct?
So much for a warranty. I have never heard of that before. Maybe I need to get out more often.
They refused to give me a straight answer. Which basically they can refuse powertrain warranty at any point after 30K if your timing belt failed.
This is a bunch of BS! I can not recommend anyone buying the aveo because of this.
I wonder if you are covered if you have a belt failure at 45K miles, and also had the 30K mile inspection...
Can anyone on this forum verify this information?
It seems like GM really doesn't want to put any backing to their 5yr/100K warranty when you ask them a black and white question.
I guess it is the chase after the mythical "Lifetime warranty". The closer you get to this "life time", the less likely you are going to get a definite answer on anything.
I guess if you are wise, you'd replace the belt at 60K, at 90K, and every 30K afterward. This belt can not be made to last.
It seems like it is not a problem with the belt, and it is an engineering problem with the engine.
Most likely, this engine will not last more than 120K..... If someone has an aveo that lasted more, please let us know.
However, it is a manufacturer's warranty, not a dealer's warranty, so GM should have a clear-cut answer for you.
Last of all, regarding the "lifetime warranty"...I have always assumed that meant "when it breaks, the lifetime is over", so you aren't covered...Seems that I was correct...
So the first service interval for the 2008 Aveo timing belt is 60K. Which means the belt is warranteed till 60K. Then it needs to be replaced.
What's funny is that they don't mention that the belt need to be replaced at 120K though. I guess they don't care if you blow up your engine once the warranty is up.
In my opinion, the belt should be replaced at 60 K, at 99K, and every 30 K after 100K. Seems like a big risk to let it run past 30K after the powertrain warranty is up.
I have always changed them every 50K miles in belt-equipped engines...an easy number to remember.
It seems a bit ingenuous to me to claim a 100K mile warranty, although you are required to perform moderate to major engine service work at 60 K miles. And, while it isn't exactly hidden from the buyer, it most certainly isn't stressed as a necessity...Of course, one could claim that all cars need "normal" maintenance (oil & filter, etc.), but I wouldn't think most buyers would think this would be a "normal" maintenance item.
I've read where Nissan refused a major engine repair which cost $5000 for damage to a Spyder's engine under warranty for timing belt breakage under 60K miles. The owner had taken it to a Pepboy center for the work, and Nissan said they weren't an authorized dealer. So even if the work is done by a certified mechanic using OEM parts, you can't count on them keeping their warranty if you didn't follow their rules.
Any suggestions for a reputable Goodwrench dealer/shop to perform the maintenance on my 2006 Aveo LS hatchback in the Buffalo, NY area?
Thanks a lot.
The rule of thumb with water pumps is to replace with the timing chain which is done at 100,000 miles because you will have everything apart at that time and it doesn't cost but another $30 for the pump. Now that most/all 4 cylinder cars have rubber belts the changing of the belt is in the 50-60,000 range. Is it necessary to replace the water pump on a four banger at that interval, probably not. I would definately change it at the second timing belt change. If the owners manual says to replace the pump at a specific interval than that is what id do.
The GM 5-year warranty will cover all engine and engine accessory problems for that period including a water pump as long as you follow warranty guidelines and have maintenance done and documented at specific intervals.
My thermostat housing looked like someone cut it perfectly in half.
So I called around and I guess Its a dealer only part and being Sunday the stealers parts department Isnt open.
I have an extended warranty and i guess i could try and have them tow it and fix it but it would take me two minutes to fix it myself so thats whats gunna happen tomarrow.
It looks like the housing is two pieces glued together or somthing, it broke perfectly like it had a seam.
My thermostat housing looked like someone cut it perfectly in half.
So I called around and I guess Its a dealer only part and being Sunday the stealers parts department Isnt open.
I have an extended warranty and i guess i could try and have them tow it and fix it but it would take me two minutes to fix it myself so thats whats gunna happen tomarrow.
It looks like the housing is two pieces glued together or somthing, it broke perfectly like it had a seam.
Boy...80 miles over the recommended change interval...that's what I call close!
But their cheap plastic part could have cost me alot more, what if it got to hot and blew the head gasket or warped or cracked the head or block.
Im sure Chevy would tell me I overheated it and Its not covered under warranty.
My wife was driving when it happened and Im surprised she didnt just try and drive all the way home the way it was.
I know Its a cheap car and I know chevy didnt even build it but this part sems to be a weak point in the cooling system, it couldnt hold a whopping 16lbs of pressure.
Im sure someone has brought htis to their attention.
They should have known glueing the thermostat between two plastic parts wasnt gunna hold long.
I dunno I guess Im still pissed and needed to vent.
POS chevy wannabe
With that 30K inspection there is also an "all points" inspection, not much unlike the Certified Used inspection. This is the dealership's last chance to do any repairs covered under the bumper-to-bumper warranty. They also check the safety gear, cooling system, and other things that may lose coverage after 36,000 miles.
This inspection is important. Above just making sure that your timing belt is in okay condition.
Now, that being said. If you have the 30,000 mile check done, and the 60,000 mile replacement, your timing belt is covered to 100,000 miles under the powertrain warranty. This means, if your belt pops at 65,000 miles and totals your engine, GM has to repair or replace said engine at no cost to you under warranty repairs.
If you do not have the belt checked at 30,000, OR do not have it replaced at 60,000, then if it goes at 65,000 miles and destroys your engine, the cost is all on you. The warranty is voided because of improper maintenance.
Be smart, follow the book, and cover your rear.
Better
found this on the chevrolet.com site:
Your vehicle concerns are important to us. Please feel free to contact us with any questions or feedback. To better address your comments and concerns, centers are open Monday through Friday, from 8:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m. (Eastern Standard Time).
From inside the U.S.:
1-800-950-CHEV
Another - Call or Mail the Customer Assistance Center
From inside the U.S.:
Chevrolet
P.O. Box 33170
Detroit, MI 48232-5170
1-800-222-1020
But if you are truly working with the correct Customer Service, they should be able to give you a SR number - Service Request and should followup with the Dealership Service Manager about your concerns.
Though it is my understanding that all US centers were closed and all calls are being handled in Manila or Argentina.
Well, if nothing else, its good to see GM reacting positively to correct what may become a larger issue as the Aveo ages. A recall would be nicer, though...even though the plastic housings appear to survive the warranty period in most of the pre-extended warranty Aveos...
We are replacing tomorrow at home, but does anyone know if any other damage was done by driving it home?