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MSRP was $34, 373, paid $30,771 plus TTL.
If I may ask, was this a rush decision to replace your Audi? Usually, new model cars are at Top Dollar at introduction until they figure out inventory and sales activity and then offer some more discounts.
Congratulations!! Did you get that price without a trade-in? If so, where do you live? I'm planning on selling my present car, so I'm looking at what people have paid without a trade in.
Did you get the Eyesight option? If not, how about the Nav? That's been changed too for this year.
Bob
No, I didnt get the Eyesight---that is too annoying for me and had no desire to get it. Plus, you can not get the Eyesight w/ the Special Appearence Package---its either or.
While you may have a Class III hitch, you shouldn't try Class III towing (5000 pound max), as your car is only rated for 2700 pound towing—if the trailer has its own set of brakes. If the trailer doesn't have brakes, you're limited to only 1000 pound towing.
The one with Eyesight that I drove did have an annoying lane-change feature. Every time you crossed a painted line on the road a buzzer would go off. Very annoying to say the least. I did like the adaptive cruise control, however.
Bob
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It has a curb weight of 290lbs and we load it up with camping gear or use to hall multch, ect. Maybe 500 lbs fully loaded. It has a fiberglass cover that latches down to cover everything inside.
No plans on towing anything of larger. The Class III Curt (13990) is a well built hitch and goes on 90% of all Outbacks that use Road N Rack for hitch installs in the Salt Lake City Valley. Outbacks are EVERYWHERE in Utah. Cant drive a block without seeing at a few.
Oh yea, the 2013 (at least the Limited 2.5i w/Special Appearance) has a push button start---no key. There is a key to open the door that is tucked into the remote but no physical key to start the car.
I had my 2012 2.5i Premium through deep snow, up the Cottonwood Canyons (I live in the Salt Lake City Valley), drove it up to 11,000 feet near Brian Head Utah---no issues. It scoots along just fine at high elevations but I did drop it into 4th when climbing at times---advantage of the CVT. I ditched my Lincoln Navigator for the 2013 OB. We have a Mazda CX7 in the family (getting rid of that for a 2013 CX-5 or the 2013 Subaru CrossTrek in December) which is a great little car---nice turbo power!! Im breaking away from the large SUVs (always owned them) and going a little more greener these days.
Im averaging 26 mpg on my 2013 with a mix of highway and city driving---thats with 450 miles on the clock so far. I noticed on my 2012 the MPG increased after the break in time---who knows if that was true or not but just something I noticed or it may have been my driving style. I was averaging about 24 mpg mixed when I got rid of it last month.
In my observations of Outbacks in the Salt Lake Valley and Park City area, I would say over 90% or more are 2.5's. Different strokes for different folks.
I replaced my 2003 Outback Limited with the new vehicle. I have to say that it is a difference like night and day between these two Outbacks.. The new one is much bigger/taler nd has a more SUV like feeling than the old Outback.
I can't say much about the driving, cause it has only 57 miles on the clock as of now.
I got this vehicle through my employers purchasing plan (my employer is one of the largest companies in the US) and paied $1500 under dealer invoice. Included in this deal is a lifelong powertrain warranty, 10 free oilchanges at the dealer, and lifelong free car washes at any of the dealers locations.
I traded my old vehicle in (120 k miles on the clock) for $5000.
Absolutely amazing...enjoy the ride!
PS I have to ask: who is the dealer and where are they?
Prior to the CR excersise, we'd been to a local dealer for a test drive. The sales manager told us, "We'll beat any price you can find" and then he suggested that a purchase deal through Costco could get us a great price, "Invoice + $500" he said. Well, we ended up taking our CR deal (in writing) from the other dealer to our local dealer and, although they seemed aghast at the price, they honored it. Because we felt like we got a very attractive price, we did not hold them to their, "We'll beat any price" comment. We did not bite on any 'post sale' offers of extended warranties, special coatings etc.
Regarding the above comment from the other gentleman about his 'free power train warranty for life' that he received. I'm sorry, but I just don't believe that. No automobile manufacture could offer, let alone honor, such a warranty. Now, if he purchased an extended power train warranty, I'll listen to that. Some free oil changes and car washes? That's fine.
The factor you're not considering is the trade in. Dealers can make up their "loss" on the sale of the car with what they give on the trade-in.
I will sell my car on my own and am looking for the prices people paid who did not trade in a car.
More than once I've gone to trade in a car after I've negotiated the price on the new car, and have been given offers way below market value. So even though it's a major hassle, I will try to sell my Acura on my own. Thus I'm interested in prices without the variable of the trade in value.
I'm sure you save... now this is an estimate so don't quote me, approximately $875.43 in fuel alone each week.
I really like the special appearance package. If I could get that with a manual transmission, it might almost make the Outback an attractive option.
I have a Porsche C4 993 and that used to be the most fuel efficient vehicle I own---probably get 16 mpg in that car---its not a Sunday driver!! Its a sports car and meant to be driven like one! :-)
That is funny...
I just purchased a 2013 Outback w/ the 3.6L engine. Does anyone know if this year is the same as the 2012 as far as the air filter goes. I always buy an K&N filter for my cars but K&N hasn't listed the filter for 2013 as of yet. Thought I could save myself some time if last year was the same. Thank you in advance for any help anyone can provide.
Vince
Venza 3,995 -8.1%
CrossTour 1,874 _37.5%
I don't know - that's like making out with your cousin. Yeah it's kind of the same thing but in the end you just feel ashamed to admit you did it.
Would it compare to the CX-5? Subaru has the best AWD, but I don't want to put up with a car that's not much fun to drive. Conversely, how is the AWD in the Mazda, in your opinion? Thanks for any advice....
The 2.5i 2013 Outback isnt going to make your grin ear to ear when you drive when it comes down to throttle---its not a "quick" car. The 3.6L on the other hand has roughly 80 more HP. I never considered my 2012 or 2013 2.5i Outbacks fun cars to drive. To me, they are all around, practical vehicles for my lifestyle--outdoors, camping, snowboarding, and Outbacks are very roomy. My 2013 feels great on the road, my 2012 plowed through any snow conditions, and I dont anticipate my 2013 to be any different.
My buying decision was based on AWD, all around with off road capabilities, and driving in snow conditions. The Salt Lake Valley can, and does, at times get a lot of snow and the mountains we get a lot of snow.
My girlfriend has a 2005 Mazda CX-7---it has a turbo and scoots pretty good for a 4 banger and is WAY quicker than my Outback. She's looking at the Crosstrek and CX-5 in the next few months when she replaces it.
How good, in your experience, are Mazda AWD in snow? Much worse than than that of Subarus?
Thank you again for your input...
The same size engine in the lighter Impreza coped much better.
She did like the lane departure warning, in fact lots of the tech worked well. It's cute and efficient, too.
The Impreza simply drove better. Surprisingly the back seat was roomier, too. You can't fold the CX5's rear seats without sliding the front seat forward.
We've owned a 626, 2 Miatas, a Legacy, and 2 Forester. All but the 626 were good to us.
We do need a bigger road-trip/hauling stuff car in the family, however, which means an AWD SUV, crossover or wagon. I'd prefer not to compromise too much on drivability, though. The Mazda CX-5 has weak acceleration but it is fun to drive; the dealer even found a really twisty troad to test-drive it on. I'm certainly not expecting it to behave like a sports car, but I'm hoping the Outback with its improvements has become acceptable in that department.
If only. Sadly, it is an automatic with paddle shifters.
I would LOVE to see a 2.5l SkyActiv engine in there.
What should I use to clean & polish the dash and other areas having the same type material. I used to use Armor-all but is that frowned on now w/ the oil in it? I don't mean the leather areas but the dash, doors, etc. Thanks for any help provided.
Vince
Forgot to ask this on last post. The 3.6L Outback has the smallest tailpipes I have ever seen. That having been said does anyone know what type of stainless extensions would work on them. Also they turn down after coming off the mufflers which may or may not add to problems finding ones that would work.
Thanks, Vince