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That tank and several subsequent fill ups have netted a noticeable improvement in mileage. Was it the octane change? I don't know.
I had asked her to run 3 tanks of super in a row, but I think she forgot, but that's ok.
Now I'll be able to run my own tests because I picked up my own 2.0 ecoboost, although in a Fusion, and I keep very detailed mileage records.
She has not had one problem with it and it has every option on the menu.
While there, I didn't see any other plated 2013 Escapes in the yard, so either people are driving them, or they haven't sold any.
If I wanted to buy a nice underpowered mini ute, I'd pick a CX-5.
Funny that Ford owned a controlling interest in Mazda not too long ago. After reading all the CX-7 engine complaints, I hope the bugs have been worked out of the CX-5.
No car is perfect, and every model has a few lemons slip out of the factory. Combine that with the fact that people are much quicker to post about a problem than they are if everything works fine, and you will see overly negative pictures painted fr practically all brands and models, at least if you take what you see on the forums at face value.
The real benefit of these complaints is to see what problems *are* cropping up, and, if possible, how to deal with them in the case that you experience them. Sometimes, like with this topic, there may not be an answer (or one you want to hear).
Hope you like your CX-5. I prefer to have more power and a better looking ride, myself, even if, like all things here, that's a subjective determination based on my preferences and taste.
I WANT A TITANIUM WITH A MANUAL TRANSMISSION!!!
I own a 2008 Escape Hybrid. I put in 13.3 gallons last fill up, and the needle was at empty (which means a couple of gallons reserve). The previous generation Escape has a 15 gallon tank.
I can't remember.
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All these reports date from October of last year. I'm hoping we'll start getting some better reports as the weather warms up and some areas switch to "summer" gas.
We go on daylight savings time in just a week (March 11) and the extra daylight will surely help, lol.
BTW, I am considering both the Escape SE and the CX-5 (but only w/184 hp engine)...tough choice.
The 2.5 should be a much better engine than the 2.0 in the CX-5. It should now be very adequate. (by many reports the 2.0 was/is not enough)
However, for a difference of just 2 MPG I will keep my 2.0 Ecoboost FWD with 46% more torque, 30% more Hp and 75% more towing capacity.
If I didn't need the extra power and towing capacity and the CX-5, 2.5 was available with a manual transmission, then I would be a lot more interested.
Did I mention diesel? When that is available, lots of people will flock to it !
Steve- I can't wait to see if warmer months actually do make much difference with my 2.0l. We bought ours in early October, so all of my numbers are pretty decent, IMO.
I'm not sure what year you are referring to, page 291 of my 2008 owners manual says 15 gallons.
Like I said, mine gets about 13 gallons at the "E" marker.
I looked it up, and the 2010 Escape hybrid has a 15 gallon tank. The 2010 ICE Escape has a 17.5 gallon tank.
Actually, my 2008 FEH has the new body style, and it too has a 15 gallon tank. I can go well over 450 miles (many hypermilers get 500-600 per tank).
They really should have stayed with the 17.5 gallon tank - even if the new Ecoboost gets the advertised MPG, one can never have too much range. Maybe there wasn't room for the larger tank...
Yup, forgot to mention it was FEH. I did not realize the ICE and FEH were different fuel tank sizes, although it makes sense. Maybe they used the extra space for the traction battery?
However, the 2010 Ford Owners manual, available on the web from the Ford maintenance site, still says 17.5. I accessed it from their site, and that is what I quoted. I don't question your personal knowledge on the issue.
In any case, they should have stayed with the larger size.
but the drivers are getting fatter if there counting down to the precise pound of the car..
MPG if your 300lb = 17 city, 23 HW
MPG if your 120lb = 23 city, 26 HW
and EPA MPG there is no driver so thats why the numbers are higher.. I get it now
When you're trying to meet CAFE regs across your entire fleet, every ounce counts.
If anything, I can see this amount of weight difference having a small effect in the city and a negligible effect on the highway.
Here's yet another factor:
"Most gasoline in the U.S. today is 8-10 percent ethanol, but the EPA does its tests with 100 percent gasoline in the tank."
Here's Why Real-World MPG Doesn't Match EPA Ratings
This Car and Driver story is a good overview of the testing required by the EPA.
I work at a Ford dealership and will be talking to my service manager and possibly the service rep on this issue...........
Your distance to empty is based on previous 500 miles, not just your current tank. This may help explain the difference.
I agree that all the little things add up. I will take 50 lbs of "work stuff" out of my vehicle when it's not needed. I don't expect to save a lot of fuel by doing so, I just think it's a waste to move around extra weight for no reason.
My main point above, is that it is stated that a heavier driver will increase fuel consumption by 41% in the city!!!! Where does that data come from?
We all agree that there's little or nothing wrong when taking this baby, especially the 2.0 AWD Ecoboost, out of the city. But OMG, if you're a city driver like I am (Washington, DC), even if you are not trying to be the fastest when taking off - I have become extremely careful-, you're in for a surprise: I get 13.5 MPG, run out of gas after 180-200 miles. I might as well get a parking spot where I fill up!
I've driven just about 5500 miles, and am thoroughly disappointed. I truly shouldn't have to scavenger for 100% gas, switch to 91/93, wonder why Ford decided to engage the All Wheel Drive at all take offs from stop, and the many other reasons folks try to explain away the fact that Ford promised good city mileage and can't deliver.
And please, if you are a 60/40 or 70/30 driver, we KNOW by now that you get 22.24 MPG. That's not what everyone is complaining about. So stop telling us why you love Ford so much. So you like their logo? Good for you. But it has nothing to do with the problem.
Anyway, my Ford is at the dealership being tested, but I'm sure it's going to be blamed on the user. That's what they do until the EPA gets on this, and they have to eat crow.
Anyone want to buy an almost new Escape? Got a great deal for ya.
Anyone want to buy an almost new Escape? Got a great deal for ya. "
If you do unload the '13, look up a 2010-2012 Escape Hybrid. I was very disappointed when they did not continue the hybrid for 2013. It gets absolutely great city mileage for an SUV.
On a side note, I never really understood why they engage the AWD from a cold stop. My 2008 AWD FEH does it as well. Interesting to see they carried on that design "feature".
However, if Ford says that we should get "Up to 22 cty/30 hwy mpg", and we get 13.5 cty, then there's something WRONG with that. I challenge the EPA to actually get 22 cty. Even with 100% gas, which is unavailable in most large cities.
That is what we are talking about. Stay with the point we are trying to make, and don't confuse it with your Ford love affair.
He said he is getting 21 in town, and described some of the techniques he uses to achieve that.
The differences in reports by various owners makes me wonder if the gas blend is vastly different in the various places.
For the record, the photo indicated 35.2 MPG, per the dash.
So definitely bug in the system you are saying? I would assume so since I had to fill up at 290 miles and filled around 12.6 gallons. So per calculation 290/12.6, would be approx 23 mpg.
" There is a TSB out on this issue which requires the computer to be totally reset"
Where can I find more info about this TSB?