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Mazda Protege5



  • cocomococomo Posts: 6
    bluong1:I take the corners at low rpm, in the 2000 to 3000 rpm range.Does the steering power assist increase or decrease as engine rpms rise? At what speed does the TTL normally kicks in?
    jstandefer: Did the rattling affect the reliability of your engine? Does it make rumbling noise when the AC is on when the engine is cold? Mine does that, sounding as if the engine is under heavy labor. So I turn off the AC until the engine is warm. I hope it's not a defect with my engine, since my car is only 3 weeks old! This is my first Mazda car (after having owned a few Toyotas & a Honda) & I sure hope it's not a lemon.
  • jstandeferjstandefer Posts: 805
    The rattling just sounds like a loose part somewhere in the engine compartment. Reliability of the engine has been outstanding so far... The rumbling with the AC is intermittent and happens when the engine is hot. The cold start rumble only happens when it is cold outside (about 55-60 degress, hey, it's San Diego), and goes away after about 20 seconds.

    As far as your power assist steering, it is engine rpm sensitive, meaning power assist DECREASES with rpm. Lower rpm will give you more assist (i.e., lower effort). However, the difference should not be that noticeable. The TTL only comes into play in an extremely hard corner. It is activated by body roll, so let's say you would have to take a regular 90 degree corner at 25mph to activate it!
  • piston flap (slap?) on some of the newer Protege ES models...dont know if that accounts for the rattle or not...

    Just checked it again, the guy talks about starting a car, and putting it into drive before the engine warms up. He gets a rattle sound when he does so.
  • jstandeferjstandefer Posts: 805
    Putting the vehicle in drive before the idle drops to under 1,000rpm is putting an awful lot of strain on the engine. Until it warms up, the engine is putting out a lot less power. My '99 ES is a 5-spd and I still let it warm up to the point that the temperature gauge starts moving. And I still drive it slowly until it has reached full operating temperature. You're car is still under the "adjustment" phase of the warranty, which allows for wear items, loose parts, etc. I would take it in and have them check it out. Like I said, mine didn't start until I had about 40,000 miles on it.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I saw my first P5 on the road today, and the first yellow one too. It was stunning! Makes me wanna kick myself for getting an ES sedan back in February and not waiting for the P5! :(
  • rickrozrickroz Posts: 26
    Can someone please explain what this s-plan is that most people seem to mention.
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    To be honest with you I like the Sedan better...I'm much more of a sedan-guy than a hatchback (read stationwagon...hehehehe) guy. Lady at work got a P5 a few weeks ago....think she was jealous. She even got the black mica like I did!! Oh welp, we had them side by side and I still say I liked mine better...even if it is only an LX (i.e no fog lights). Not that I'm bashing the P5 in the slightest. Just a styling preference.

    Rickroz, scroll up a few hundred messages...There's a lot of talk about the s-plan. I think the way it works is that you join some organization for $40 and that will get you a price of 1% below invoice (somebody correct me if I'm wrong). We don't have it up here in Canada, so you'll have to verify w/ the others.


  • Just got off the phone with Mazda Canada. Turns out that another batch of P5's have made it to port and have gone on rail as of Sat 18th. She told me that it should arrive in the GTA (Ontario) by Friday. I won't hold my breath though...

  • bluong1bluong1 Posts: 1,927
    Carl, as Jerry stated, the power assist is greater at lower RPM. The TTL reacts with the 2 things: the lateral force and the horizontal torque subjected by the rear wheels. When the lateral force is applied, the TTL produces a negative camber to balance the body roll, and makes the rear wheels grip better the road. When the horizontal torque is applied, the suspension produces a toe-in-toe-out effect on the rear wheels, so the car can follow easily the trajectory, and make one feel the steering is light. I don't think you need to take a corner very hard before the TTL kicks in. Comparing to my previous car, the 1997 Civic EX, the P5 handling is way much better. The wheels of the Civic squeal like a pig everytime I took a hard corner, and in the wet surface, the rear of the car always try to skid, pretty disappointed. Sorry to hear about the ratting noise of your engine. Hope you can manage to get the dealer fix it.

  • cocomococomo Posts: 6
    thanks for all the helpful info, guys.
    You guys sure know a lot about the P5/Protege.
    I'll get my dealer to check my car when I bring it in for oil change in a couple of months.
    Does anyone know if it's possible to fit a 6 X 9 speaker in the front doors? I'm thinking of getting Polk EX693A speakers for my front doors.
    It has a 3 11/16 inches bottom mount depth,according to I'm not sure if there's enough depth and width in the doors.Has anyone done that before and did it work well?
    Does anyone know if there's a Mazda owners club in Toronto? thanks.
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,329
    Check Crutchfield's database. If they don't list the P5, check by the Protege sedan's specs as the front doors are identical. If your speakers will fit in the sedan's front doors, they'll fit in the P5's front doors.

    Stock, the fronts take 5x7/6x8 speakers. A 6x9 will probably involve removal of some sheet metal, which I wouldn't do. Does Polk make a version of this speaker in a 6x8 format?
  • I finally got my p5! not the one I wanted but close.. Silver, manual transmission, no other options..

    The car I ordered back in May still hasn't arrived..

    The roofrack blades are definately making wind noise.. I looked at em and they almost certainly seem to be backwards as others pointed out on here.. the more aerodynamic part seems to be in the back, and the blocky side is facing the front of the car.. I'll try reversing them and let you know if it makes any difference.

    1 other quick question for you p5 owners out there :).. I see a little square on the back of the center console (facing the back seats) is that a cup holder or something?.. I can't seem to open it.. does it open from the top?..

    I had a lot of fun driving this car home from the dealer yesterday! turning circle seems so small..

    Regards, and thanks all for the informative postings.. New audio system is next on the list for the p5! will let you know how it turns out.

  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Congrats on your new car, even though it's not the one you ordered initially. The square in the back of the console is not a cup holder. I have a 2001 ES, and it has this same thing there. I don't get it, but I know for a fact it's not a cup holder.
  • Hi All,

    Love my p5 after a month of ownership, but somehow I have lost a clip (a small plastic cover)for the holes of my (optional)roof rack. Does anyone know how someone can get these?


  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    I can tell you what that little square is on the back of the center console, because I used to have a 1992 LX (before my 2000 ES) and they've trimmed down some of the items that used to come standard.

    It's a pop-out cover for what USED TO BE a small ashtray for the rear-seat occupants. You'll notice that since smoking is not P.C. anymore, there are no accommodations for smokers in the back seats. I used to like the little ashtray, though, because it offered a place to put gum wrappers and wayward french fries until my next vacuuming!

    What are the two things I miss the most from my 1992 Protege that my 2000 Protege doesn't have? I miss the lighted ring around the ignition switch and the low washer fluid warning light. I hear the 2001 model brought these back, dang it ...

    And Paul, what are you doing lurking over here? Get your butt back to the Mazda Protege topic where you belong, you four-door imposter!

    As long as I'm here, let me re-state my invitation -- we'll be holding the second-annual Mid-Atlantic Protege Picnic in Northern Virginia on Saturday, October 6! Reservations are required! If you're interested, come over to the Mazda Protege topic or e-mail me at:

    Happy zoom-zooming!

    2000 ES 5-speed with spoiler
    Ex-1992 LX 5-speed
    Ex-1992 LX automatic
  • mdaffronmdaffron Posts: 4,421
    Stop by the dealership at 3 a.m. .....


  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    The 2001 models have the lighted ignition key cylinder, which I love. But it does not come with the rear ashtray or the windshield washer fluid warning light. I wish it did.
  • Mark,

    Congrats on your new car. Just wanted to note that only the front rack can be reversed. The rear only fits with the groves to the front of the vehicle. However, by reversing the front bar, you'll most certainly eliminate the highly undesirable wind noise.
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    Congrats! :-)

  • draekdraek Posts: 3
    Finally, after 2 months of waiting, my car (silver, 5spd, a/c, moonroof) is here and I'm going to pick it up in a couple hours. Manual transmissions have been so hard to come by. The dealer still has a long list of people there waiting for theirs to arrive. One lone automatic sits in the lot that no one wants here. Will post my thoughts on it after I drive it for a while. Just so happy that the waiting is over at last.
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    Congrats! Welcome to the Protege Fold. Where in Alberta do you live?? I live in Calgary. Have fun zoom zooming!!


  • Does anyone know how hard it is to install the roof rack on the p5. Dealer said they need a couple of hours.
  • sunbyrnesunbyrne Posts: 210
    We appear to have a few new Pro5 owners the last couple of days--congrats to all of you! They're fun, aren't they?
  • mustang87mustang87 Posts: 129
    Hi everybody,
    I picked up a Vivid Yellow Protege5 from Marlin Mazda in Miami on sunday. Automatic, tape player and floor mats were included as options. Love the car. Attracts A LOT of attention, drives great, comfortable and handles like on rails. A little low on power but thats allright.
  • meinradmeinrad Posts: 820
    The Mazda USA website shows an option for an indash mini-disc player, but in Edmunds pricing and carsdirect pricing, neither lists it as an available option. Does anyone know if the Mini-disc player is actually available? I'd love to have one, since now I use a tape adapter and a portable to take my minidiscs with me and it's a real pain. I don't like to swap out factory units, just never liked the way aftermarket looks, so a factory md would be great. So far the only other car I've seen with factory md was a cadillac.
  • krotinekrotine Posts: 93
    My dealer (Pittsburgh, PA) says the mini disc is available, but it will cost about $500.

  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    It's available but at a healthy $593 MSRP. Not sure it's worth it.

  • meinradmeinrad Posts: 820
    It figures they would give it an outrageous price. I would be willing to kick in $200 for it, but not $500. I wish carmakers would start putting input plugs on their car radios like a lot of aftermarket companies do now. I don't necesarrily mind using a portable player in my car, it's just that the tape adapters are such a pain and don't really sound all that good. Coulnd't cost more than a few pennies to put a simple mini-plug in the front of the radio. Guess it's time to start remaking all my md's on cd's, just a waste of time.
    Ps. Krotine, do you drive 279 from the north into the city, my wife said a red P5 went by her on her way in Wednesday morning, she called me to say she finally saw one on the road. Thought it might have been you.
  • Has anyone purchased rust protection from their dealer when buying a Protege5? We signed our deal on August 11/01 (blue/auto/moonroof) and the dealership is pushing a rust protection package for $499 which carries a "lifetime" warranty. I read that the Protege5 is built with over 90% anti-corrosion steel. When we purchased rust protection on our 93 Integra and tried to have it applied they gave us the runaround saying the any rust near plastic or rubber was not covered. Does anyone have any suggestions? We plan on keeping the car 5-10 yrs so we don't want it to prematurely rust.
    As for delivery were originally told that it was in port and that we should have it within 10 to 14 days, but when I called the dealer yesterday he said that yes it was in port, but it will not be shipped until the 28th. Then add 5-6 days for rail time to Oakville, ON. Based upon what I've seen here we may have it in the middle of September. I called today and asked for the VIN to see if we really have a car assigned to us, but the salesman was busy.
    Wish us luck.
  • csuftitanscsuftitans Posts: 215
    After 4800 miles, our black mica P5 still running like new and my wife still dominates the car. She loved the car so much, she drives it to work everyday over our 2000 Millenia S. Gas mileage still not very good for us, more like 23mpg. Maybe it's because SoCal's been so hot lately and AC is always on at #2 or #3.
    BTW, when I serviced my Millenia at Browning Mazda in Cerritos, I saw about ten P5 all colors, except yellow. So if anyone's looking for one, I heard they are the biggest Mazda dealership in SoCal. Also, I saw a Protege MP3 for the first time last weekend at Anaheim Mazda; I know this car's been hard to find, but the one I saw is for sale. I don't know how much markup they're putting on the car though.

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