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It's a little tricky to install but if you have some mechanical abilities you can do it.
Rich
1. The ES does not come with a strut tower brace.
2. The P5 has a different front bumper, head lights, and fog lights than the ES.
3. The P5 comes with side skirts.
4. The ES has 6x9 rear speakers while the P5 has 6.5s.
5. The P5 weighs a little more.
7. You can shove more into the P5 than the sedan, nonetheless.
8. There's more headroom in the rear seats of the P5.
9. The rear outboard seats in the P5 have adjustable headrests.
10. P5 has a rubberized whip antenna (more durable?).
11. P5 now has a subwoofer mounted in the spare.
12. P5 has a rear wiper & washer.
13. You can put the MPV wiper stalk into the P5 to get variable intermittent wipers while you have to import the old Canadian 626's stalk to do the same in the ES.
14. Look under the front suspension. I know the P5 has a stiffener brace in addition to the stabilizer bar (the brace does impede access to the oil filter), not sure of the ES though.
15. You'll probably hear more noise from the cargo area in the P5.
16. The P5's rear bumper cover is different as well.
Seriously, what's the color of the gauge and interior light on the ES?
Question: Is this common in P5's? Thanks!
DX and LX Protege's have green.
Hummm mine are white...
Bruno
Now, 21K miles later, it has settled down/broken in considerably, as has the entire tranny and powertrain.
I predict $3000 by fall.
The local saleswoman I've talked to says that Mazda is very secretive about their new models compared to other companies.
They try, but I think Honda manages that better.
And it's actually a really nice sunny day for a change. Rain again tomorrow but at least for one day I'll have a clean car.
I have really missed the P5. Been driving my dad's CRV, which I really like, but it's just not fun to drive.
I live in the Northeast, and know exactly what you're talking about. I've never actually bought a car when incentives of any kind were available. I know how factory rebates work. Can you please explain how dealer cash works? More to the point, if I'm qualified for the S-Plan will they subtract the dealer cash from my S-Plan price like they would with a factory rebate?
I'm trying to estimate prices right now so I can convince the wife that the P5 is worth $50 more per month than a ZX5. She already knows that the 6 is worth the extra $70-$100 per month, but that may be too much with a bambino on the way. Being able to take advantage of both the S-Plan and the dealer cash would be a big plus.
Thanks!
baggs....Dealer cash turns into customer cash on an S-plan sale...At least that's how its supposed to work...Most dealers won't give you a hard time on the dealer cash..the P5 is selling well but its not in massive demand and short supply.
Rich
At least for now anyway. I guess things can change as the time goes on.
I think we'll still wait a few months to see what happens with MZ6 prices though. I really like that car.
Oh, funny story about that red P5 mentioned above. The salesman went back to get it for us to drive and was taking a long time so I decided to look out the window and see where he was. Lo and behold, he's got the hood up and a battery pack in his hand. It seems that that little red P5 hadn't been started up in quite some time and the battery was dead!
Not a good sign, but understandable.
Only one small nit-pik item though: wish they would replace the cig lighter/ashtray setup with maybe a cubbyhole for the cell phone &/or change holder. No big deal.
I would also like to remove the license plate holder contraption (if possible), but I can live w/it as is. No big deal, (maybe too involved/complicated ordeal, ummmm...think: lazy).
<g>
Not a lot of P5's around here, so it's kinda nice driving something "different". When at the car wash or shopping, several people have ask me "is that a new car? Who makes that?", and "nice car!". I appreciate it.
Thank you Mazda, especially for the smiles per gallon!
Allen
Ditto and very clever!
Didn't you just move to France? How do you like it? I hope they are "treating you well". We were in Paris 04/2000 and loved it! (Joe Allen Restaurant has great food, btw). Do you see many/any Mazda's or P5's there?
Allen
Cheers,
Bruno
When I first got my P5, it reminded me a lot of the Volvo V40 5 spd I drove in Sweden, Norway and Denmark. Fun little wagon, and it had great pickup, (almost seemed like it was a turbo!). Too bad the V40 only comes in AT for the states, I just might have considered it if had a MT.
Once your babe arrives, please keep us posted on your road adventures!
Allen
Personally I found the meals to be HUGE. Of course, if I had the 5 course lunch (and a pastis) , I didn't have a big dinner. Had a lot of chevre but never saw a goat. That was a big joke with my wife and I. Find the mystical goat and get an hour long message.
Yes: Entrée, salade, plat principal, fromage, dessert, fruits, café. And the whole thing with accompanied by few bottles of wine. That's our way of lunch during the weekend among friends and family. The whole thing can easily last several hours! Unfortunately, during the week, we are forced for a much smaller lunch. Strikes and manifestations take a lot of time, you know... ;-)
To be on topic, P5 is really nice and the mileage should be good enough for the high price of gas here.
Bruno
Did you get to go to Monaco for the GP?
It was really a blast. I couldn't believe the things some people did to see the race. The entire hillside next to the palace was covered with spectators. All of whom, the Jaguar fans were convinced, were Germans rooting for Schumi.
Quite an event. My wife, father-in-law and mother-in-law weren't as excited as me. They just wanted to see the city.
Ohhhh how I long for a pain bagnet.
I love my P5 (on topic).
Bruno
Personally, I love the OEM tires and wouldn't change a thing.
you can easily take them off, however :-)
btw, rr was not part of the standard equipment. if i was to get it, i will have to pay for it just so I can take it off and not use it!
When I was picking my car up the other day I went through the lot and some had the rack and some didn't. And when I say didn't, I mean no rails at all, not just removing the cross bars. I really like it without rails, but I'm not willing to tear out my headliner to remove mine.
Now here I may be wrong, but I've read that even though it's an option, that it's a dealer ordered option and that if it has the rack the dealer doesn't take it off and if it doesn't the dealer doesn't add it. (and just to be clear, rack means the cross bars and side rails, not just cross bars).
I can't say if it's 100% accurate, but might give you an idea if your dealer is hoping you'll just buy off his lot.