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I drive cars for a living. Personally, I'd take the forklift over the RX330 any day! There's a BIG difference between "handling" and "driving at freeway speeds." But if you understood that Jeff, you would not be caught dead in the "rolling coffin" RX330, unless you're a soccer mom or over 65. I'm sure you fit into at least one of those categories.
By the way, why are you still posting on this board Jeff? Did you pick up a copy of the latest Motor Trend FX35/ RX330/ MLB350 comparison? Guess which one was declared the winner? Goshes! Experiencing buyer's remorse now Jeff? Why don't you go back and join Willard and the soccer moms on the RX330 board.
As the poster mentioned above, the FX series has good handling properties, whether or not the suspension is too hard for some. But that's where its claim to fame ends for many that test drive it.
People vote with their dollars - and everyday I see the FXs piling up at a large Infiniti dealership in the area and yet directly across the street the Lexus dealer struggles to keep one RX330 on the lot as a demo unit.
Speaking of cross-posts, your post #382 months ago in the RX330 board (referring to me):
"...guess you're just a little sensitive having to drive around in your wife's ubiquitous car. And talk about depreciation, I hope your're in a short term lease, because you're not going to be able to give that thing away otherwise."
Sold the "wife's ubiquitous car", a 2001 RX300 FWD, just this week for 73% of it's new price 3 years ago. Our new RX330 has exceeded our expectations in every way. As always, YMMV.
Since you were so wrong about the RX's resale value, I trust your current opinions are just as worthy.
Ya pays ya money and makes your choice. Beyond that, your hostility is a sure sign of pure locker room bravado but at least its humorous - keep up the good work.
Laser guided cruise control. Nope! Roads here are way too crowded to even put on cruise control, much less laser guided. Remote starting. Never used it wouldn't need it. I know exactly what I am talking about. More electronics to break as time goes on. You may be one of the few RX owners that had problems with their vehicles. Generally they are absolutely bullet-proof I have first hand experience multiple times with them. You need the FXs rear view camera, cause you can't see out of the back. You "real" drivers can have your FX and I hope you're getting great mileage with these sky-rocketing gas prices. I'm sure the RX330 doesn't get the great mileage the FX does. Now back to our topic.
It was a G35 sedan with dealer plates on it .
I did not see any FX35,FX45, Q45, M45, or G35 coupes for loaner cars .
I drove the RX330 for a day. I did like the auto. rear hatch opening and wood trim steering wheel but I did not like the lack of power and poor handling . In closing , these are two different SUV's and both cater to a different crowd . I would never own a RX330 but if you do , I'm glad for you . You wanted something else in your vehicle then I did but please stop comparing "apples and oranges" and who's better the whom !
Actually, it says nothing. Having RX 330s in a loaner fleet says nothing about how well the car is selling. Lexus corporate works with dealers to place RXs in loaner fleets. The cars are delivered from Lexus for use as loaners only. The Lexus loaners are NOT cars that go unsold, which is what you are implying.
Jeffmust2 was saying that most Lexus dealers have few, if any, RX 330s on their lots. Infiniti dealers have tons of FXs sitting there. I'm not saying this is good or bad for either Lexus or Infiniti, but at least where I live that is a fact.
There are other factors also , as you well know, from advertising to what does the consumer want from the vehicle will contribute to sales differences . Some are valet and some are mute . As to some pointing to the fact that the RX330 is out selling the FX35/45 must make it a better vehicle is a misstatement of the facts . If this were the case then the Ford Taurus would be considered better then the RX330 , and you know that is completely wrong !
I do question the fact that Lexus uses there RX330 ( which as posted is a very popular SUV and are having a hard time keeping them in stock ) and not the IS300 or LS300 as loaner cars since the demand is far less right now for those vehicles . You may feel that it says nothing but I respectfully disagree for all things mentioned above .....
Several, as a matter of fact! Here's one (of many): VW Golf
tidester, host
This guy is the poster-child for the Lack of Propriety Society!!
LOL!!! Did you even read my profile? I was pointing out interesting reading in Consumers Reports luxury crossover comparison. You can read the results online if you have a subscription.
In addition, I'm not sure why anybody shouldn't be concerned about rising gas prices. The news is reporting that SxV sales are way down. May have something to do with skyrocketing gas prices. Even people with big $$$ are concerned with gas prices. Why shouldn't we be?
Interesting the responses one gets when an opinion is voiced. You are more than welcome to come into the BMW forum, voice an opinion without somebody claiming you have buyers remorse or are insecure. Anyway I don't need to troll as I've been active in Edmunds boards for about 4 years. But as you suggest you are free to ignore my posts, I won't take any offense at it.
BTW I'm sure calling one insecure is against Town Hall rules of conduct.
I'm going to go enjoy a ride in my "gas guzzling" beautiful, Liquid Copper FX now.....
High gas prices has a detrimental effect on us all. Pity the poor person who can only afford a clunker that gets the same mileage as the FX with none of the thrill.
Life is to short to make comments that don't do anybody any good !
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We can stay on topic, but I was discussing FX gas mileage, which I thought is topical due to the current gas prices. People seem to have an opinion if you can afford an FX gas prices shouldn't matter much. Well that's one side of it.
ichban470 - I thought this board belonged to Edmunds where people are free to post topical opinions? Even if you personally disagree with what is being said/posted.
The same thing can be said regarding the handling of FX35 and RX330. You have to put it in the grand scale of things. You cannot base you argument on one review article, such as the one in Consumer Reports. You have to look at several reviews from different sources, then you pool the results together. For example: in the Consumer Review article, in terms of handling, FX35 = RX330. But in the Motor Trend article, FX35 > RX330. If you add them up, you will see the overall result-FX35 is the better-handling car.
The more things change the more they stay the same. When posting on the Edmunds boards after buying an ML430 in 1999, [in the ML forums], I remember a similar situation. There was a poster, an RX300 fan, that posted daily on the M-Class boards. He never offered any related info, just espoused the wonders of the miraculous RX & it's vast superiority over the M Class, the Range Rover, the Space Shuttle, etc. Eventually it became funny rather than simply obnoxious.
You know as well as I do these are not needed or respectful .
If you want me to post on the subject of gas mileage, I would if it really concerned me or if I can help someone else about the subject .
I find it does not concern me , not that I like the price of gas or $$$ is coming out of my ears , it is only because I knew when I bought my FX45 with a V8 , gas mileage was not going to be good . I looked for performance and handling first and as long as I didn't get a gas guzzler tax the issue would not have come up .
For those concerned about the mileage on a FX35/45 , check the posts , car magazines, or go to the dealers and look on the window of the vehicles , all should give you a general idea what you will get per/gallon . If you are really into gas mileage you may want to keep with the smaller cars ( Metro, Corrolla, Civic, etc.)
As far as gas prices and expensive cars, Hummer got dinged by JD Power survey participants because there was no EPA rating on the sticker and people were surprised (disappointed?) with their mpg. And there are currently incentives on the H2, but probably more for end of year blow out reasons than because gas prices are hurting sales.
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Said , " I really want one ! " & " Great looking Crossover ! "
Day before had a guy in the parking lot , walk over from his Merc. E-Class and ask me how I liked it and if he could look inside . Gave him the full tour and his last comment was ," Heard it was a Porsche beater and now I can see why ! " I assume he was referring to the Cayenne S and not the Turbo .
Slummyj : Get used to it ! I've lost count on
how many people want to talk to me about my FX !
As to the prior comments about gas milage, gas was approximately $2.00 in 1980. Can anyone think of any product that is the same price that it was in 1980 like a car or home? Adjusted for inflation gas is very inexpensive relative to its historical price. And if we eliminate the massive regulation on the oil companies and the massive federal tax on a gallon of gas the actual price would be approximately 80 cents.
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