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Get a grip, the 4,000lb sled is only quick when equipped with the 100 more hp HEMI. Any Man that says the V6 is fast must have spent a life time of driving punie 4cylinders. If you want to go quick the Hemi is the way to go. If you want FAST, wait till the SRT comes out in Oct.
Having had the opportunity to put in a significant number of miles in all three engines currently offered in the LX platform, I am of the opinion that the right choice depends on buyer priorities. There really isn't a 'wrong' answer.
Obviously, the Hemi is an iconic, suberb motor that completes a really unique package. You do, however, pay for the privilege, both in terms of increased MSRP and dealer markups. Hemi LX vehicles remain difficult to get in many parts of the country, and dealers are accordingly slow to negotiate much. In the Detroit area, I've found 300Cs to be MSRP--take it or leave it. I don't hav a lot of experience with the Charger, yet, apart from seeing several $3000 'market adjustments on various window stickers. YMMV
The 3.5 w or w/o the 5 spd tranny is also a stellar vehicle, with plenty of power for almost any use. If the premium to step up to the 8 cyl. is a concern, the 3.5 is more than satisfying. Dealers are more inclined to negotiate on these models, IMO.
Finally, and off-topic, the base 2.7 in the 300 is a hardy little offering. Of course, it seems out of place in such a large vehicle, but in terms of drivability, it really isn't as much of a dog as one might imagine. I've put several thousand miles on one, and for the price, think it's fine even when with a full load of people. Cutting edge? Of course not. Price effective? Certainly.
What I wanted in my Charger and what Chrysler/ Dodge is asking for with the Hemi is just too much. Besides, all I see are black, red, and silver R/T Chargers right now. I wanted the Magnesium Pearlcoat color with a moonroof, 6 speaker system w/ Boston Accoustic speakers, leather seats that eletronically move, and the 18" rims. Around here in the Baltimore/ Washington area, they want around $35K for the Charger with the Hemi. Compared to the $28K they were asking for the SXT model with the 3.5 liter engine and the color I wanted, it was a no brainer which model was going to buy. Maybe, if by chance in a few years I could afford the Hemi, I will get one.
Thanks,
John B.
I like the Charger commercial with the MOPAR dragster coming out of the toll booth, you can really play that up at the upcoming events. I haven't been to a NASCAR race since 2003, but the Charger could be on display for people to sit in and get a feel for it. Work on some pre race activity where they can be driven around the track in a new Charger. Lots of possibilities.
On a side note, I don't know what kind of pull you have at Dodge, but the MOPAR site offers NO tech support. You need a phone number so people can call with a question. I'm trying to build a HEMI for my 71 Charger and sometimes you just need a human voice to help you along. Because of the lack of support I had to buy cylinder heads from Keith Black instead of mother MOPAR.
Best regards,
Dusty
Thanks!!
Heinz
6.1 liter V8
425 HP @ 6,000
420 lb-ft @ 4,800
0-60 mph "low 5-Second range"
top speed 165 (approx)
1/4 mile "High 13-Second range"
Hmmm, sounds like a bit of a beastie if you ask me. ;-)
Best Regards,
Shipo
Regarding your Mopar question, Mopar is treated as a whole separate entity from the Dodge, Jeep and Chrysler brands of which I represent. What I would suggest to you is to go to their site and in there Mailbag section; then click on ask a question. I know it’s not a human voice, but it is what they offer. There are also some good questions asked by people building engines for their beautiful Mopar machines!
Dusty, the 6.1L HEMI engine is offered in the Chrysler 300C SRT-8, which went on sale earlier this year. Then of course there’s the Dodge Magnum SRT-8 which has become available VERY recently. Coming late fall/ early winter the Dodge Charger SRT-8 will start appearing in dealerships across the nation.
Heinz, the 2006 Dodge Charger Daytona R/T in the GoMango color has just recently started appearing in dealerships. There hasn’t been an official date as to when production will start on the Top Banana color though. Stay in contact with your local dealership and I’m sure they’ll be more than happy to let you know when the Charger Daytona is available at their location.
Well thanks for reading!!
John B.
Thanks a bunch for taking time out to reply to our questions. In regards to the GoMango color, do you have any info as to how many will be produced, and if there is a possibility of offering either of the colors as an option in the future ... with or without the packages they come with now?
Thank again,
Heinz
Hope this helps!
John B.
The SE is a deal. If you do the math you'll find that the contents of the STX package are worth about $2000 retail, not the $3000 that Chrysler charges. There is a similar discrepancy between what you pay for and what you get when you move from the STX to the R/T.
> The hemi is out of my price range, plus I don't need all that power. I don't know much about Dodge's, but how's the reliability on them?
Neither Chrysler not M-B have a very good reputation for quality control or reliability, but being an optimist I will say maybe it's average.
The build quality on the few Chargers that I have seen isn't very good - a lot of misaligned body panels. The early 300s were like this too. They eventually got better, but are still average at best. If I buy one, it will be off the lot so that I can inspect the car carefully before I buy it.
I'd be happy with Toyota-like build quality.
As to build quality, I have to disagree. I looked at several Chargers on my dealer's lot a few days ago and I would challenge anyone to show me where build quality wasn't very good. They were just as good as our Toyota Avalon.
Regards,
Dusty
I've looked at 14 different cars at 4 different dealers. About half of them had panel alignment problems. The hood in most cases, although a couple had trunk problems. One of them had a huge gap between the leading edge of the hood and the front facia. A couple had ill-fitting front bumper covers.
The reason behind switching the look of the production from the concept model is pretty simple. The 1999 Dodge Charger concept vehicle was designed around an old platform that isn’t being used anymore. The engineers at Dodge did attempt to make that design work with the current LX platform; the concept design just did not fit. The engineers had to go back to the drawing boards and come up with a new design that would work. I hope this helps you understand why the design change was made.
John B.
Well I’m more than confident that the 2006 Dodge Charger SRT-8 will re-kindle your love for American Muscle! The 6.1L (370 cu. in.) HEMI engine produces a whopping 425 bhp, and an astounding 420 ft. lbs. of torque. The Charger SRT-8 will be hitting dealerships across the country in late fall/early winter.
John B.
That being said I cannot stop looking at the new Charger. It stopped me dead in my tracks at the NYC Auto Show in April. I'm still quite a few months away from buying one, and I'm hoping I can purchase one next year with AWD.
The trunk space was great, except I'm not too crazy about having the battery back there... kind of reminds me of the old VW's with the battery under the rear seat. It was hot outside and the AC didn't seem to be that cool compared to my GM vehicles. I was surprised to see Dexcool under the hood of a Dodge. I was not aware they were using Dexcool now. Overall, I think the Charger is a nice car, but I don't think they went quite far enough in some areas. The $32-$35k MSRP price tag is a bit high for what you get in return and I won't ever buy one at those prices. Maybe the V6 will be more acceptable price wise... the dealer didn't have one in stock, so we'll see what happens in a few months.
Just as an FYI, the Charger could have been worked to look more old then what the currant team came up with. With C.A.D these guys did a pretty good job in my opinion. Please read and pass along to your buddies at headquarters.
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/features/0404phr_dodge/
Just make sure you don't screw up the 2009 Challenger. Use the Firepower as your platform and offer it for a reasonable 29,500 and up depending on options, of course with the HEMI for this price. :shades:
Thanks for any input !!
It seems that by checking the inventory around here in central Fl that there are plenty to chose from.
I wouldn't expect them to drop it by much with Charger's in short supply. Most dealers around here have either no Charger's or two at the most on their lots and they don't stay around very long. The Charger is just too new to expect deep discounts until supply overtakes the demand. The same thing happened when the PT cruiser was first released.
Good Luck...!
I'm getting ready to call the sales guy up to see if I can come over.I'd rather have a charger(had 69 charger once ) but have deal on the table for a Mustang Gt.It's about 4k cheaper.That's why I need the dealer to negotiate some.. Maybe $1200 -1500 off. That's why I asked about the rebate. Does that have any effect on what the dealer takes off?
Thanks Again!!
If I can get off the $1500. I'd do the deal.
The salesman had my head snappnig back on his portion of the test drive.
The car rides nicely and the power is there if you want to play. I was surprised how big the car is. I had a jeep and now this thing is a tight fit in my garage.
I got a desent deal considering how new the car is. Gainesville dodge is a well run operation.
The ride is a lot smoother than my 69 Charger was.. Then again ,I'm quite a bit older.
Enjoy the ride Eagle ... keep us informed as to how the car does!
Heinz
the end having a REAL back seat,trunk, and a better ride was important. I can see me driving my clients around it this car and at the same time be able to kick ***!
Take care
Steve
But in my opinion ... I would go with what your heart desires, and not worry so much what is going to happen a decade from now. The smile on your husbands face will last longer in the car he desires over one that is just so so ... to him. By the way ... I believe the Charger has 3 car seat positions in the back ... or anchors in 3 positions ... FYI Lots of luck ... Heinz
Actually that is incorrect.
"German auto manufacturers like Volkswagen, BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, Audi, may have been great quality 10 years ago, but not up to par with Lexus, Toyota."
Take the last 5 years of JD Powers. Germans are not in top people.
They are not even better then Ford or GM. Lexus and Toyota are much better
quality than the Germans.
Please lets give accurate info on these forums, not opinions based on feelings, just because you like German cars.
I wouldn't touch a Volkswagen even if you gave it to me!!!