Stories from the Sales Frontlines

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,565

    @ab348 said:So I guess all those folks who live in Euroland are running around in dirty skivvies?

    Not necessarily. It might just mean downtown property is too valuable and there aren't enough laundromat customers to make it worthwhile to have a laundromat on prime downtown property.
    In Ireland it is more lucrative to open a bar than a laudromat.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,647

    @driver100 said:
    The problem is if recalls are are avoided and if there is a cover-up, especially for 10 years. That's when you have to be concerned. That indicates the manufacturer is not being responsible, and has no concern for their customers.

    Oh, we agree on the time problem here. I believe GM has been very forth-coming about that time problem as well as some other details and many people are gone from their cushy, well-paid jobs for same.

    My point was that there often are problems from companies other than Delph/GM. Sometimes they macht nichts but other times they can be life threatening, such as the case of the airbag parts provider. The point that the incomplete records on airbag detonators going back 10 years possibly makes the point that there is more than one company today with recalls.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,565

    Thanks for comments about AAA. I may revaluate my decision of dropping them after doing without for about the last 3 years.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,612
    edited June 2014

    When I bought my first car that came with roadside assistance, the salesman told me you are going to wait a long time for a tow because it doesn't pay much. It's more of a marketing tool. Better off using AAA.
    Even with AAA, every time I've had a short tow, I've had to wait. Last one was an hour later than originally estimated.

    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    @explorerx4‌ said:

    "When I bought my first car that came with roadside assistance, the salesman told me you are going to wait a long time for a tow because it doesn't pay much."

    The reason I don't join AAA is because the warranty on my car covers towing and roadside assistance, no matter what the reason, including accidents. After the warranty is up, the manufacturer covers the car for as long as the original owner owns the car and has the car serviced at an authorized dealer's service department (that's the catch).

    2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,184

    I have roadside on the RDX, along with my AAA (which goes with me, not a particular car). I suppose if something happened, I could call both and shop ETAs! Though good chance in many areas, the same truck is going to show up either way.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • bwiabwia Member Posts: 2,913
    edited June 2014

    Greetings folks:

    I am back from my caliente hot Caribbean sojourn. Nice trip, good food, and an abundance of tropical fruits.

    While there I rented a right-hand-drive 4x4 Toyota RAV4. Great little SUV especially the AC that worked tirelessly in the 91 daily heat. No big car news except the Japanese and the Koreans dominate the auto landscape there. And here is how they do it.

    Since most of the locals are poor they have to revert to buying used. Local brokers order these used cars directly from Japan. These cars are in excellent condition and work almost as well as a new one. Here is a sample link: http://www.carjunction.com/category/4wds.html
    From what I heard, the Japanese tend not to drive used cars so they ship them to developing countries in Africa, Latin America and the Caribbean. And that's where the racket begins.

    The local Caribbean governments are so hard pressed for cash so they see this as a lucrative revenue stream. They impose an unconscionable import excise tax of 97% on CIF (cost freight and insurance) plus an additional EC $3,000 environmental tax for vehicles over 6 years old.

    The RAV4 I drove was one those cars. Since it handled and drove so well I intend to import a 2002 model year for approximately US $6,000. I don't have a closed garage in my vacation home but a local banker has agreed to garage it for me, and for free.

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,121

    Oh no!

    Now GM is recalling the Camaro. :(

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • fushigifushigi Member Posts: 1,459

    WRT Sirius XM, I decided not to renew a few months ago when my subscription expired. I simply don't drive enough for it to be useful. I have received the marketing materials with the 6 months for $25 offer but am declining it as well because it requires you to sign up for auto-renewal at the normal rate after the 6 months are up.

    And regarding AAA, I dropped them back in the 90s when they refused to come out & give me a jump when my car wouldn't start. I was at my apartment so it wasn't in the middle of nowhere. It was after a major snow event so I could understand a delay, even a backlog if lots of other folks had called ahead of me. But they refused to send a truck and refused to put me on a waiting list.

    That kind of customer non-service I can easily do without.

    And nowadays both our cars have roadside assistance and our car insurance includes tow coverage. And for $4 a month I can upgrade that to full roadside assistance.

    2017 Infiniti QX60 (me), 2012 Hyundai Elantra (wife)
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,647
    edited June 2014

    @oldfarmer50 said:
    Now GM is recalling the Camaro. :(

    If you read carefully, it's because of the key built into the FOB unit. If you are long legged and if you sit with your knees up against the steering column, the knee can bump the side of the FOB and twist it about the axis. This may turn the key from the ON position.

    They will replace with a key with a single hole in the middle and without the slot that allows some leverage to apply a rotational torque to the key. The key will not be a part of the FOB. The Camaro will get a separate key FOB.

    Here's a link to a good article but more important are the comments after the article.
    http://gmauthority.com/blog/2014/06/general-motors-recalling-every-fifth-generation-chevrolet-camaro-ever-built/

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,565

    @imidazol97 said:They will replace with a key with a single hole in the middle and without the slot that allows some leverage to apply a rotational torque to the key. The key will not be a part of the FOB. The Camaro will get a separate key FOB.

    Sounds similar to the key in our Passat. Press a button and the key springs out like a jacknife. That's OK, but the key/ignition problem sounds similar to the ignition problems in the Cobalt etc.
    The fact they don't want more weight on the key makes it sound like the Cobalt problem too.

    One lady caller said her Saturn was recalled for a new ignition switch and she was told it would be fixed in 3 to 4 weeks when the part came in. After 4 weeks she was told it could take another 4 to 8 weeks to get the new parts. She complained and they got her a Chrysler rental car to use in the meantime. She said she likes the Chrysler and may buy one next time.

    It's a good sign the Camaros will get fixed, do have to wonder why these cars got a faulty design, and would the problem have come out if the last problem wasn't uncovered?

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  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984

    @driver100 said:
    I have a question. I was a member of AAA (really CAA, but really the same-Cdn Automobile Club). for about 45 years. Then, about 3 years ago I decided not to join. I don't need Tripteks with the GPS in the car, I don't need a travel agent, I have a computer, I don't need roadside assistance, it comes with the car.

    Does anyone else join or not join AAA these days? We are going to the UK for 2 weeks and so I bought some Tilley underwear there, as a non-member. You can travel the world with 2 pair, guaranteed that if you wash them at night they will be dry in the morning. But, I didn't have to be a member and I didn't get the 10% discount...not worth $60 a year.

    I belong to AAA and have been a member for many years. If you remember the story about my wife getting the convertible stuck in the mud at an historic site she was working on, it was AAA who dug the car out of the cemetery mud. We have also used them for two flat tires and three dead batteries. They come quickly, are efficient, and are most courteous. Another thing I like is talking with them about maps and routes. If I tell them where I'm going on a long trip, they color code the scenic and the quickest routes. We wanted a Mexican cruise last Christmas. They planned it for us while we sat there and told them where we wanted to go and what we wanted to see. We also selected our stateroom and dinner choices. I could do all of these things on line, but I learn extra tidbits by talking with these agents in person. Finally, my travel discounts through AAA more than pay for the annual dues. I have roadside assistance with my credit card and my insurance company. Still, I like using AAA which, by the way, has the same coverage even if I am riding in a friend's car.

    Richard

  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984

    @driver100 said:

    Well, you have to admit that three flats in two months does look a bit suspicious. Perhaps they think that your son-in-law is leaking the air out of your tires because you won't give him the money that he so richly deserves. ;) Then again, they may think that you are a mob target and won't be around in another year. After all, you drive a BMW, have a house in Florida, live in another country, and wear that hat and sunshades so we can't recognize you. B)

    Richard

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,184

    I do like travel agents. Doing everything yourself using 498 travel sites is highly overrated.

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  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984

    @robr2 said:
    I recommend you take your fancy new tablet, find some free wi-fi and google launderettes. I'm sure the first world cities you are visiting have them. Or ask at the front desk.

    Well, at least we learned one thing about Driver. He doesn't wear underwear to bed. Therefore, it is either PJs or nothing. There are times in life when too much information isn't necessarily a good thing. :DB)

    Richard

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,184

    gotta guess nothing, otherwise he would have a lot of PJs to wash too.

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  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984

    @driver100 said:

    When we've been to Europe, the hotels would send the laundry out and have it back by the next morning. We didn't ask where it went as long as it returned clean and in one piece---AND WAS OURS! :D In our travels to Asia, we could always see our underwear drying because once the hotel washed it, they put it on the roofs to dry in the sun. Each guest had their own spot on the roofs tagged with your name. I have to admit that the underwear returned clean and smelling fresh. At first, my wife was horrified, but she grew accustomed to it.

    Richard

  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984

    @imidazol97 said:

    Imid, I don't think that you understood Driver's post. The lady doing the yelling in the grocery store is not the clerk; it's the customer behind him. Therefore, it wouldn't do much good to talk with the manager.

    Richard

  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984

    @ab348 said:

    That struck me as so darn funny! I laughed for at least ten minutes. Thanks so much.

    Richard

  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984

    @fezo said:
    Oh, my problem would be the sign that says 12 items or less. It should say 12 items or fewer. Unless they were charging you by the bun I think you're in the clear.

    Amen to that one!

    Richard

  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984

    @stickguy said:
    gotta guess nothing, otherwise he would have a lot of PJs to wash too.

    LOL! That was sooooo good!

    Richard

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,647
    edited June 2014

    @sterlingdog said:

    it's the customer behind him.

    Thanks for pointing out that I had the wrong person in mind. I appreciate that. Now it makes more sense.

    If I had that happened to me, I'd just as the cashier to call the store security and manager.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,647

    I've watched as cashiers checked out folks with actual numbers of items greater than the little signs suggest. It's usually faster to check them out than to ask them to gather their items up and move to a checkout line that's for the regular orders. Usually the cashiers say they've been told to just check folks out rather than aggravate them.



    On the other hand:
    In some stores and regular checkout lines on slow evenings, I've had the cashiers who are socializing with others nearby and want to continue that while checking my order out. I actually grabbed back the items she'd started scanning when cashier continued the talk across to 2 other folks. I told her I'd go to a line where the customer got the cashier's attention. She begged me not to.

    I went to a station near the other exit doors, checked out, and then had the floor person call the manager. I had a chat with him. He indicated he knew there were problems with certain employees at the other end and my experience helped him make a decision. This store, Meijer, is a regional store competing with Kroger and Walmart. I like shopping there especially in the evening. Much quieter than Walmart.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,647
    edited June 2014

    @driver100 said:
    That's OK, but the key/ignition problem sounds similar to the ignition problems in the Cobalt etc. The fact they don't want more weight on the key makes it sound like the Cobalt problem too.

    Some of the news stories have tried to make it sound like more of the Cobalt ignition switch with a weak detent force. But it's not. It's strictly the physics of the fixed key in a rectangular block being hit by a knee.

    I'm going to stop by my local store and sit in a Camaro to see if the seat position has the knees different than in my Malibu. I tried my key and don't see any way I could bump the key's remote and turn the key back a position to the ACC rather than the ON position. If anything going over a huge bump would make me hurt my knee by hitting the key on the long dimension and not rotating the key with any torque.

    This sounds like an overabundance of caution by GM because they're found a potential here. Interesting that 3 crashes are ascribed to this experience with the key an knees. That's why I'm going to go sit in a Camaro. I think I'd look good in one! White convertible? :o

    From Road Trip. Host Steve posted this picture of their rental.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,565

    @sterlingdog said:Well, at least we learned one thing about Driver. He doesn't wear underwear to bed. Therefore, it is either PJs or nothing.

    They don't have Tilley wash and dry the next day PJs, so you are right....I won't be taking PJs. In fact, I only own 2 pairs of PJs which I never wear but I keep around in case I end up going to the hospital for some reason. Also come in handy if the burglar alarm goes off in the night.

    But, remember...I could wear underwear and a T-shirt. And, that is probably more than you really want to know.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,565

    @imidazol97 said:This sounds like an overabundance of caution by GM because they're found a potential here. Interesting that 3 crashes are ascribed to this experience with the key an knees. That's why I'm going to go sit in a Camaro. I think I'd look good in one! White convertible? :o

    That is a nice looking car. Maybe we will get a sales story out of this.

    btw....GM should just go keyless, that would save them a lot of problems.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,647

    @driver100 said:
    in case I end up going to the hospital for some reason.

    In the hospital they have gowns for you to wear.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592

    @fezo said:
    Oh, my problem would be the sign that says 12 items or less. It should say 12 items or fewer.

    A distinction without a difference as both mean smaller in number.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592

    @imidazol97 said:
    I've watched as cashiers checked out folks with actual numbers of items greater than the little signs suggest. It's usually faster to check them out than to ask them to gather their items up and move to a checkout line that's for the regular orders. Usually the cashiers say they've been told to just check folks out rather than aggravate them.

    Here is my question, if I get a case of canned peaches is that 24 items (24 cans) or 1 item (1 case)? B)

    This store, Meijer, is a regional store competing with Kroger and Walmart. I like shopping there especially in the evening. Much quieter than Walmart.

    We have Meijers here and I tend to like them the best but they always seem busy.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,192

    @imidazol97 said:
    If you read carefully, it's because of the key built into the FOB unit. If you are long legged and if you sit with your knees up against the steering column, the knee can bump the side of the FOB and twist it about the axis. This may turn the key from the ON position.

    They will replace with a key with a single hole in the middle and without the slot that allows some leverage to apply a rotational torque to the key. The key will not be a part of the FOB. The Camaro will get a separate key FOB.

    That is the identical key to the one used in my 2011 Regal and many other GM cars of that era. I will check to see if my knee can touch it.

    My previous 2 GM cars had the older design which it sounds like they are returning to, with a fob that dangles from the key. I'm not sure which is better. After 5 years, the fob for my Intrigue cracked where the ring holding the key attached to it. It seemed bulkier in my pocket too.

    I believe most of the newer Regals now have pushbutton start/stop. Surprised the newer Camaros do not.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,192

    @imidazol97 said:
    I've watched as cashiers checked out folks with actual numbers of items greater than the little signs suggest. It's usually faster to check them out than to ask them to gather their items up and move to a checkout line that's for the regular orders. Usually the cashiers say they've been told to just check folks out rather than aggravate them.

    I spoke to a cashier a couple of years ago about this very question after being behind a woman with 15 or 20 items in the 8 items line at the grocery store. She told me exactly what you said. They are instructed to just put them through and not make them complain. Of course then the customers behind them like me complain...

    In some stores and regular checkout lines on slow evenings, I've had the cashiers who are socializing with others nearby and want to continue that while checking my order out. I actually grabbed back the items she'd started scanning when cashier continued the talk across to 2 other folks. I told her I'd go to a line where the customer got the cashier's attention. She begged me not to.

    As both a customer and a manager this drives me crazy. I see it especially at one of the two grocery stores where I tend to do most of my shopping. Having worked for a retailer the last 11 years, this is one of the things we tried to impress upon our store staff. The importance of the customer experience at cash cannot be overstated. The employee focus should be totally on the customer being served and nothng else. Nothing leaves a worse impression than a cashier talking to the one in the next line, or to a friend who happens to be nearby, and not giving the paying customer their full attention. The related annoyance is being in a line where the person ahead of you being checked through is a friend of the cashier and they decide to have a little gabfest while you are waiting, cooling your heels. It amazes me that this happens so often. A symptom of very poor training and bad store management.

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  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984

    @imidazol97 said:
    I've watched as cashiers checked out folks with actual numbers of items greater than the little signs suggest. It's usually faster to check them out than to ask them to gather their items up and move to a checkout line that's for the regular orders. Usually the cashiers say they've been told to just check folks out rather than aggravate them.



    On the other hand:
    In some stores and regular checkout lines on slow evenings, I've had the cashiers who are socializing with others nearby and want to continue that while checking my order out. I actually grabbed back the items she'd started scanning when cashier continued the talk across to 2 other folks. I told her I'd go to a line where the customer got the cashier's attention. She begged me not to.

    I went to a station near the other exit doors, checked out, and then had the floor person call the manager. I had a chat with him. He indicated he knew there were problems with certain employees at the other end and my experience helped him make a decision. This store, Meijer, is a regional store competing with Kroger and Walmart. I like shopping there especially in the evening. Much quieter than Walmart.

    One of my former students is the manager of a chain grocery store here. He told me that one of the worst problems with cashiers is talking across the aisle or with the grocery bagger. He uses the three strike rule and then you're gone. He said that with so much competition in the area, he can't afford not to run a customer oriented store---and a clean one. His floors just sparkle and his lighting is excellent. In the produce department, not one apple, orange, or tomato is out of place. He's had opportunities to move to larger stores in larger areas, but he loves his hometown. I'm glad that he does; it makes my shopping experience very pleasant.

    Richard

  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984

    Happy Fathers Day to all of you here. The guys on this forum are special fathers. I've read enough about your outstanding children to know that you gave guidance, support, time, energy, money, and most importantly, love to your children. You should be very proud of yourselves. The future of our country will be in much better shape because of your efforts.

    Richard

  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984

    @snakeweasel said:
    A distinction without a difference as both mean smaller in number.

    Snake, there IS a difference. The word "fewer" goes with countable items such as "fewer books on the table" or "fewer than 12 items". The word "less" goes with uncountable items such as "less snow this year" or "less money in the bank". It is true that most people use "less" most of the time, but there is a distinction.

    Richard

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,647

    @sterlingdog said:
    but there is a distinction.

    That kind of thing is something I look for when I read the type of books I like. I notice when there's a grammar error or a misspelled word for one of the homophones (there, their; to, too, two) or a pronoun with an apostrophe that shouldn't be there (its, it's). Just finished **Resistant ** by Michael Palmer and I believe I found a misused word or grammar mistake in it.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,647

    Anyone notice we have 5000 pages in forum now?

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,121

    @imidazol97 said:

    "Host Steve posted this picture of their rental"

    How did Steve score a rental car like that...and a convertible no less? When the new generation mustang came out in 2005 I saw an ad that Hertz was renting them out.

    I called my local location and got a royal run-around. First they said you had to belong to some special "club" to rent one (the ad didn't say that), then they said I had to talk to the manager but he was never available. Finally I wore them down as a matter of principle and got one after maybe 20 calls.

    The wimpy 6cyl. in the 2005 wasn't worth the effort. Bet the 305hp in the 3.6L Camaro was.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,565

    @imidazol97 said:In the hospital they have gowns for you to wear.

    you mean those things I never know which way to put them on?

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,565

    @sterlingdog said:Well, you have to admit that three flats in two months does look a bit suspicious.

    The houses in that neighbourhood reached 20 years, so a lot of houses were getting new roofs put on. Roofing nails are really bad for causing flat tires. They have large flat heads and point straight up when you drive over them. Also, sloppy workers just let them fall, or they fall out of the trucks the roofers use.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,565

    @sterlingdog saidWhen we've been to Europe, the hotels would send the laundry out and have it back by the next morning.

    I thought of that but in England and the UK service can be very poor. They lose things, don't do it on time, get your order mixed up etc. Since we are on a bus tour covering a fairly large area...London, through Wales, Ireland, North to Scotland, and down the East side and back to London we could be off on the bus and these guys won't have my clothes ready. Don't want to take the chance, but I would if we are in one location.

    On cruise ships they usually do a giant bag of laundry for one price...that works, less chance of it getting lost on the ship.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,565

    @snakeweasel saidHere is my question, if I get a case of canned peaches is that 24 items (24 cans) or 1 item (1 case)?

    If they ring in the cans individually it seems to me it should be counted as 24 items. If there is one price for the case it should count as 1. If the cans are priced individually, and someone got in the 12 or FEWER line, I wouldn't argue...it is easy these days to ring one in and go X 24. If, the store has a system where they have to be scanned in individually, then they should count as 24 items. That is only my opinion, but maybe ab348 has a professional opinion.

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  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984

    @driver100 said:

    You are so right about those roofing nails. When we purchased our home in 2012, we put on a new roof. After completion, I rented one of those industrial VACS. We actually went over the front lawn, the driveway, the rear patio and garden area, the curbing and the side street that runs around our corner lot. You can't imagine the amount of roofing nails that we collected. We were glad that we did it and the neighbors were also grateful for it.

    Richard

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,565

    @sterlingdog said:Happy Fathers Day to all of you here. The guys on this forum are special fathers. I've read enough about your outstanding children to know that you gave guidance, support, time, energy, money, and most importantly, love to your children

    Ah, well, son-in-laws, not so much.

    But, thank you for your wishes.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,192

    @driver100 said:
    If they ring in the cans individually it seems to me it should be counted as 24 items. If there is one price for the case it should count as 1.

    This is right if the cans are still in the case. If they have to be bagged because they are loose, get out of the line.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,192

    @imidazol97 - I checked on the switchblade key fob today in my 2011 Regal. I cannot see any way a knee could realistically touch it unless you moved the seat way forward to the point of ridiculousness.

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  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805

    My Father's Day will be spent coaching my daughter's lacrosse team at a jamboree. First game is at 8:30 AM and is an hour away. Each of these 16 girls are special to me and I can't think of a better way to spend the day.

    Last week they won their first game all season and I was so thrilled I sprang for $70 worth of ice cream.

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,184

    ab, the Camaro is a lot tighter. Much better shot that your knees are jamming against something.

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  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386

    Thanks for the support on less vs. fewer. They re very different words. Using less when veer is called for is a egregious as loose when you men lose.

    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    edited June 2014
    @driver 100 said:

    "Ah, well, son-in-laws, not so much.
    But, thank you for your wishes."

    Luckily son-in-laws are not "sons"! Unless they are your flesh and blood, *driver, "...let them eat cake. ", or in your case, let them eat meadow muffins.

    I had a daughter-in-law who used to turn my stomach. All she did was complain about my son and ask me for money. Luckily my son divorced her - she was a witch. If she was half the mother that my son is a father to his children, I could have overlooked the other negatives. No wonder my son left her. But he has shared custody and his boys come first in his life. For that I am so very proud of him.

    So driver, I can empathize with you, as you see!

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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    HAPPY FATHERS DAY TO ALL

    The one thing we can all be proud of is our children (wives of course are included). They are God's blessing upon us. After all, what or who else could truly give us pleasure in their actions, their deeds and their own happiness. Well, a close second is the car of our dreams, but we eventually trade those for other cars of our dreams. Not the same ever-lasting pleasure our children give us.

    To all you fathers, HAPPY FATHERS DAY!

    2024 Genesis G90 Super-Charger

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