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The wheel and tire size that was replaced is
P185 60R14
The original tire and wheel size was
P175 70R13
Does anyone know how to calculate this information?
These look like a near perfect match with only 0.1" difference in diameter and 0.5% difference in revolutions per mile.
That is less difference than when you wear your tires out.
Oh yeah, hope everyone had a nice Thanksgiving yesterday!
One that was recommended by a couple of shops is the General Exclaim. Supposed to be a brand new model. A/A/420 rated. Unidirectional. It also looks like General is owned by Continental now, FWIW.
Anyone know anything about these, particularly what to expect for wet/snow traction (in case it snows this year in NJ)? Wet is the main concern.
They are running $20-25 bucks each less than the Dunlop SPs (which I have on my other car). The 'Lops are nice, but I may not have the Maxima much longer, and don't put many miles on it (mostly around town).
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Shortly thereafter, I was talking to a local tire dealer about my experience. He said he had the same problems with Continental/General, therefore he stopped selling them.
Just my $0.02 worth...
Does that make Dunlop a 4th tier supplier?
Brands like Dunlop, Firestone, Yokohama, Pirelli, Continental, etc fit into Tier Two.
But I think most tire brands are Tire Three. The Tier One mfr's own well over 50% of the total market share in the US. Everyone else is sorta like small potatos.
Glad to see this is just your own personal feelings, and not something else.
Besides, they have to work better in the wet than Toyos that are down to the wear bars. And if I don't like them, it will give me an excuse to buy a new car.
Funny that I never would have considered Generals unless the tire shop guy recommended them.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
And thanks for noticing it's my personal value guide, as it were. I should have been more clear in my previous post.
But if you get those Generals, please post back and let us know how you like them. I missed them at SEMA (funny, I did go to the Continental/General booth) and you are the first person who has asked about them. I'll be interested to read your comments.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Darn those gentlemen's clubs! They kept me there all night!!! How's a guy supposed to get some rest and take care of business when they force you to be there until 5:30AM???? Unbelieveable......
This morning the rains came, and the wet grip is phenomenal, all this compared to a tire (the MXV4) that ain't exactly shabby in its own right. Wet roads feel like they are dry!
The B'Stones come with a 30-day money-back guarantee, but I'm certainly not going to be using it unless something totally unforseen occurs. They aren't cheap, though I could have gotten the H-rated ones for about $20 less apiece. I can't speak to snow grip; I'm in Austin, Texas. If you are looking for serious Grand Touring tires, I recommend these very highly.
I have no connection to Bridgestone, BTW, though this is the third (and best!) set of B'Stones on our family cars.
He meant in terms of sales, not quality. Hey, if it works for him, whatever.
There is no way I know of for the average consumer to independently measure tire quality, let alone define it. If y'all know something I don't, I'd sure appreciate the help.
Publications like Consumer Reports are a small help but they're evaluations are infrequent and limited in scope sometimes.
Reviews/analysis/evaluations conducted by people on various websites is questionable due to their limited expertise about tire engineering. Tire Rack is probably the most helpful but they're only one operation.
So IMO all were left with is individually-based value judgements based on whatever amount of information we compile and analyse. My tire info folder is about 4" thick. I have copies of Tire Review, Tire Business, and Modern Tire Dealer on my desk. That and what I can cull of the internet is all I have to go by when offering my opinions. Don't know what the rest of you have.
All I can offer is all I can offer. Sorry if you find it meaningless. Good luck in your quest for more tire info.
Because the Accord has had a bit of road noise and I didn't know if it was inherent to the car or a function of the tires, I opted for the touring tire (LS) instead of the ultra-high-performance tire (RE950).
Either way I think you'll be pleased.
What's around that would give her what she needs. Discount Tire recommended a Kumho ECSTA 716. I looked it up on Tire Rack -- good traction, but the reviews make it sound like it has problems tracking straight. The type of tire she wants seems to be hard to find in that size. The other standard good, cheap tires don't come in her size -- Yoko Aegis LS4, BFG M65, BFG M80 (not cheap). I haven't checked out the Goodyear Regatta 2 for her.
Your thoughts?
Regards,
Noelle
In the case of the B'stone LS's versus the MXV4+'s, the change in performance was quite noticeable even with the stock profile.
What is the rim width on your ES300?
Well, that's a bit of a challenge you've presented. First off no all season tire will perform great in the snow and their wet weather performance will vary. Some of the best tires I can think of is the Michelin X-One or a couple Nokian models but they will probably be way out of your friends price range. All season tires are a compromise and its bad weather traction that usually suffers.
The Regatta 2 has got some good reviews for snow traction and I'd suggest putting them on her list. BTW, this tire is sold at Sams Club as the Allegra so if she has a Sams membership it would be a good idea to check it out.
I recall we discussed a Cooper Lifeliner SLE which might be a good choice in terms of price/performance.
A few others would be Bridgestone Turanza LS-T, Yokohama Avid Touring or Dunlop SP Sport A2.
One last comment: If she changes the tire size to 195/65-15 her choices improve significantly. This tire is almost the same size but will have a little narrower tread and a little taller sidewall. This profile is actually better in snow. Not a dramatic change but just enough to offer more options.
I hope this helps. Let me know what she decides to do.
Thanks for any insight on this matter as we still have about 3k of usable tread life left.(Car gets a little squirrely in the rain and don't want to wait that long to replace them.)
The Sandman :-)
I input those numbers into the tire size calculator at http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html and its look OK to me; a bit larger tire but there should be plenty wheelwell clearance to go to the 65 series.
Like Noelle's question above the 195/65 tires are within fractions of the 205/60 so technically that's a better choice but I think the 205/65's are fine. Double check with your tire installer to be sure; maybe do a test fit if you're concerned.
Someday, with 20 or 30 years of hard work, I really will become the Tire Guru of Town Hall. But right now I'm just an apprentice. Happy to help, though. Let us know what tires you decide on.
I left the store, went home and retorqued the lug nuts and then went straight to the Interstate. Entrance ramp was one of those sharp cloverleafs and I was pleased with the handling characteristics of the Dunlop. They were also noticeably quieter at highway speeds (even better than when the Michelins were still new). It rained Wednesday all day long and the wet weather traction was all that I had hoped for and more. This was the real reason I went with this tire (only time will tell if it continues after I get 20-30K on them). I got them mounted, balanced, and out the door for $340. I really thought about the Turanza but thought I would give these tires a try since they just seemed to have everything I was looking for at a hard to beat price.
Anyway, my initial impression is that they may not be the best choice for a Maxima SE. They seem a bit "squirmy", and somewhat noisier than what I had before. Definitely a softer ride, and less of a sharp edge in handling, but they seem to corner well without squeal.
Some of this may be my neurosis about my cars, combined with the fact that bald Toyos are pretty hard edged. That is, it's hard to have tread noise or flex when you have no tread.
Since i'm in NJ, I can vouch that they are a good snow tire. I don't think the old Toyos would have made it out of the driveway, and it's downhill.
Anyway, I will drive on them for a week and see if they grow on me. If not, back to the tire store for an exchange to the Dunlop's (the place I got them has a 30 day/500 mile exchange program, full credit on the price, not sure if you have to pay for balancing again).
Overall, they seem like good tires, but may be more suited for "softer" car like a Camry or a Buick.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
The only other downside to using the 225's would be a slightly greater tendency to hydroplane at high speeds in the rain. That may or may not be inportant to you. (For any given tread design and rubber compound, a wider tire will hydroplane at lower speed, unless the mfr. uses wider drainage grooves to compensate.)
i was considering the Michelin MVX+'s but after all the postings here about how expensive they are and not everyone liking them.. I'll choose the dunlops... thanks everyone..
How long the the dunlop sport A2's last? how many miles in general?
As an alternative solution to her tire problem, today Lee test drove a 2002 Subaru Impreza wagon. This all could be moot in a few days!
Noelle
Since you drove the Exclaims to the point of getting a 'squirmy' reaction out of them, you pushed them to their limit. Tire performance gets interesting out there.
'The budget' is a reality and dictates some decisions. But where the rubber meets the road and if you are sensitive to tire performance (through the steering wheel), the budget tires usually will be a disappointment.
Let us know if you switch to the Dunlop A2s. Then you can give us a side-by-side comparison from the same vehicle. I can guess the outcome since I have the A2s on a vehicle too.
A note on drainage grooves. My wifes car now has 225/50 16 Dunlop Sport 8000 on it. these are really grippy tires and pretty quiet too. But those deep vertical chanels get stuck on small imperfections in the road, making them kind of twitchy.
My experience is that if they tell me not to do it, and I insist upon it, that I own them after that. They are not in the business of spending a grease monkey's time doing my experimental projects.
Am I off base here? Just relating from several past experiences here...
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.